Panda Cloud Antivirus 1.3

[pbust]

We just released Panda Cloud Antivirus 1.3:
http://blog.cloudantivirus.com/2010/10/27/panda-cloud-antivirus-1-3/

-{ Quote: "
The main new features and fixes included in Panda Cloud Antivirus 1.3 are the following:

Malicious Web & URL Filtering. This feature blocks websites that push malware, exploits and drive-by downloads. It is available both in Free and in Pro Editions and is installed by the toolbar. Unlike similar solutions, this web filtering works at a low level so it works under all browsers: Internet Explorer, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, etc. For those of you that didn’t install the toolbar but would like to install the Web & URL Filtering, you can download it from here and install it manually.

Unified Recycle Bin and Quarantine. Previously the Recycle Bin handled suspicious detections and the Quarantine handled deleted malware detections. This has been unified into a new Recycle Bin for ease of management. This is included in both Free and Pro Editions.

Automatic and transparent upgrades to new product versions, previously only available in the Pro Edition, this is now available in the Free Edition as well. All users of Free Editions versions 1.1.0, 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 will automatically and transparently upgrade to the new 1.3. See notes below for the upgrade schedule.

No more nagging advertising. After listening to many of you we have decided to turn off the nagging advertising popups prompting to upgrade to Pro Edition. If you want to support Panda Cloud Antivirus and wish to get the Pro Edition, you can do so from here, but we won’t bug you anymore from the popups.

Hot updating of behavioural blocking rules. In order to increase protection on the fly against new vulnerabilities and attacks and to fix false positives, hot updating of behavioural blocking rules allows faster response time in both the Free and Pro Editions.

Instant notifications of virus detections. Previously if Panda Cloud Antivirus encountered multiple viruses, it would delay its traybar notification and show them grouped. This behaviour has been changed so that the notifications are shown immediately.

Suspicious detection counter. Under the statistics window there’s some new counters for the different types of heuristics and behavioural detections.
New versioning format. Unified versioning format in GUI and other parts of the program.

Many bugfixes as reported by users in our support forum:
– Fixed issue with Windows 7 Start menu slow-down.
– Fixed Panda traybar icon disappearing.
– Fixed “you are not connected to the Internet” message when there is connection.
– Fixed issue when Free Edition users can activate behavioural analysis.
– Fixed slow-down and conflicts while playing Allods Online and AION.
– Fixed cloud-response time configuration which defaults to 30 seconds.
– Fixed constant accesses to the floppy disk drive.
– Fixed BSOD issue after install.
– Fixed bug while exporting an empty report to TXT/CSV.
– Fixed Conficker detection.
– Fixed BSOD while compressing malicious PDFs.
– Fixed translation errors.
" }-

There's a PRO license giveaway going on over at CNET:
http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-20020804-12.html

Cheers!

[Boyfriend]

Thansk pbust for update info :)

I am getting following error on giveaway page

-{ Quote: "We're sorry!
This product is not available at this time." }-

[pbust]

I just tried it and its working fine for me. Might want to try again.

[yaslaw]

Is Panda Cloud also use whitetlist cache technology?

Regards

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Is Panda Cloud also use whitetlist cache technology?" }-
Yes, since the first beta version.

[yaslaw]

thx I missed this information

[rogervernon]

¡ Muchisimas gracias, Pedro!

[jason_jiang]

seems that the offline installation package (hXXp://acs.pandasoftware.com/cloud/CloudAntivirus.exe) has not been updated yet ???

[Morro]

Why are you doing this to me Pbust? I hat told myself that i would stick with my current firewall and Avast 5, and then you not only bring out a new version of PCAV but you also place a link to the GAOTD for the new version. Now i hat to take that offer...>:(


LoL just kidding Pbust, thanks for the new version and the heads up for the giveaway. ;D :thumb:

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "seems that the offline installation package (hXXp://acs.pandasoftware.com/cloud/CloudAntivirus.exe) has not been updated yet ???" }-
Yes, right now the new installer is only available from download.com:
http://download.cnet.com/Panda-Cloud-Antivirus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10914099.html?tag=mncol;txt
This is because CNET is doing the product launch and giveaway for us.

Tomorrow the rest of installers should be pointing to the new version.

[Blackcat]

Pedro

many thanks for the giveaway Pro license.

Do you still recommend an initial scan with the new version?

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Do you still recommend an initial scan with the new version?" }-
Unless you are going to be doing a lot of intensive on-demand scanning, its not necessary to do an initial scan for normal, everyday usage.

[Arin]

@Pedro

Thank you Panda for the release and for the Pro license!

Can you tell me why killing panda2_0dn.exe is allowed? I mean this does not look like a good idea.

Also, I have an off-topic question. As per Google, website filtering is best done by clients installed on the computer rather than the DNS server. What do you think about this? Does Panda have any plans to come with similar services like Clearcloud DNS or Norton DNS?

@all

I'm getting an error on this (http://www.cloudantivirus.com/en/download/cloud-antivirus/free) page stating Error opening /proteccionBasica/proteccionBasica.jsp. Anyone else using IE8 facing it?

[Blackcat]

-{ Quote: "

@all

I'm getting an error on this (http://www.cloudantivirus.com/en/download/cloud-antivirus/free) page stating Error opening /proteccionBasica/proteccionBasica.jsp. Anyone else using IE8 facing it?" }-
Yes, seeing this with IE9 beta.

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "I'm getting an error on this (http://www.cloudantivirus.com/en/download/cloud-antivirus/free) page stating Error opening /proteccionBasica/proteccionBasica.jsp. Anyone else using IE8 facing it?" }-
Thanks for reporting it. Our Web dev team is looking into it as we speak.

[Nevis]

thx man for this share

really useful for all of us

[gazs1]

Thanks very much for offer, running a scan as i type, running great on xpsp3 with defensewall 3.08 and sandboxie;D

[PC_Pete]

Hi Pedro
Sounds really good overall. :)
I don't mean to be a wet blanket but I think Avast has been web-filtering like this:-{ Quote: "We just released Panda Cloud Antivirus 1.3:
http://blog.cloudantivirus.com/2010/10/27/panda-cloud-antivirus-1-3/
Malicious Web & URL Filtering. This feature blocks websites that push malware, exploits and drive-by downloads. It is available both in Free and in Pro Editions and is installed by the toolbar. Unlike similar solutions, this web filtering works at a low level so it works under all browsers" }-since their version 4.X.

cheers,
Pete (or maybe "Pedro") 8)

[firzen771]

how many processess does this run? is it like panda's other products which have a rediculous amount of processess?

[kasperking]

hi....will this work with prevx SOL

[Securon]

Good Morning ! Many thanks too Pedro and Panda for their generosity. I'm using the offered Pro-Edition...and also in tandem with Prevx with Safe-On-Line...and so far everything seems to be running harmoniously. Once again many thanks for the offer. Sincerely...Securon

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "how many processess does this run? is it like panda's other products which have a rediculous amount of processess?" }-

I think three as far as I know:

PSUNmain.exe: Tray
PSANhost.exe: Main Guard
panda2_0dn.exe: Web Guard

PSANtoManager.exe: Only launches I think when Malware is Detected, atleast that is the only time I see it.

[chinook9]

Thank you PBust. I have been a happy Panda Cloud user from the first beta editions and now I get to try the Pro version for a year. Getting my registration was really easy. I just have to figure out if I should upgrade my existing install and activate Pro or just install the latest version over the existing install. I'll figure it out.

Thanks again.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "I think three as far as I know:

PSUNmain.exe: Tray
PSANhost.exe: Main Guard
panda2_0dn.exe: Web Guard

PSANtoManager.exe: Only launches I think when Malware is Detected, atleast that is the only time I see it." }-

ok thx, thats not bad then.

another question, does the free license start ticking the minute u finish the registration or does it start once u actually activate it in the product

[codylucas16]

I'm not sure if it's just me but I'm having problems running this with Comodo's firewall. I installed Comodo first, the PC ran fine then installed Panda and it keeps locking up. Any Windows services or programs become unaccessible. Can't load task manager, IE, Ctrl alt del does nothing, etc. This is on Windows 7x64. Uninstalling Comodo seems to fix the problem.

Other than that, very nice and thanks for the free license once again ;D

[buckslayr]

Got my license. Very generous. The question I have is how does the pro version get along with mbam pro?

[eBBox]

Thax for the update and license :)

Testing this baby right now.

[eugene91]

How come I can't get the license? How? I clicked the link in cnet which gave me an error?

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "I'm not sure if it's just me but I'm having problems running this with Comodo's firewall. I installed Comodo first, the PC ran fine then installed Panda and it keeps locking up. Any Windows services or programs become unaccessible. Can't load task manager, IE, Ctrl alt del does nothing, etc. This is on Windows 7x64. Uninstalling Comodo seems to fix the problem.

Other than that, very nice and thanks for the free license once again ;D" }-

For some reason Comodo is one of the products that just does not seem to work along side PCAV on some machines. One of the mod's tested it on a machine they had and it worked fine, then we get another report on the forum around the same time and they are getting crashes. Its hit or miss on what machine you are on.

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "Got my license. Very generous. The question I have is how does the pro version get along with mbam pro?" }-

Tested Personally myself with some past versions and it was with no issues. Though like always I recommend you to exclude them from each other just to be on the safe side.

[acuariano]

hey Pedro thanks for the license.
also one question; how much memory it takes?

[Morro]

*Pbust the toolbar does not remember the settings i changed. I only want Clear Data - ID Protect - and the weather to show.(The search shows also of course.) When i close Firefox and restart, then the ones mentioned above show but also the Coupons and shopping buttons show, and i do not need those.

[InfinityAz]

Anyone have a screenshot of the toolbar (I'm not a big toolbar fan but would like to see what it includes)?

Also, how has Panda Cloud been in terms of false positives?

[eugene91]

Panda Cloud sure is good in terms of detection.. I've never experienced FP with it on my desktop.. Updated to 1.3 on my desktop :D

But now im still wanting to ask since maybe no one say my question above about how come i got an error from the license giveaway page? saying "We're Sorry! This Product is not available at this time"

[Arin]

-{ Quote: "The question I have is how does the pro version get along with mbam pro?" }-

You will get the answer here (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1765710&postcount=14).

[gazs1]

-{ Quote: "*Pbust the toolbar does not remember the settings i changed. I only want Clear Data - ID Protect - and the weather to show.(The search shows also of course.) When i close Firefox and restart, then the ones mentioned above show but also the Coupons and shopping buttons show, and i do not need those." }-

confirmed, same here:(

[pbust]

Regarding the giveaway, it seems the provider has certain countries disabled by default in their platform. We just talked to them to see if they can enable them. Try again in the next few hours to see if it has been fixed.

[gery]

It seems like Albania is excluded. can anyone PM a key please?

[acr1965]

A couple questions-
1. does this have an email scanner?
2. how much resources does the Pro version use?
3. I think I remember some time back about Panda Cloud av not having self protection, has that issue been resolved (if it ever existed)?

thanks

[carat]

Thank you Panda :)

Is there any difference between Free and Pro? :doubt:

[Mongol]

-{ Quote: "Thank you Panda :)

Is there any difference between Free and Pro? :doubt:" }-

This table shows a side by side comparison of free and pro: http://www.cloudantivirus.com/en/basicProtection/

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "1. does this have an email scanner?
2. how much resources does the Pro version use?
3. I think I remember some time back about Panda Cloud av not having self protection, has that issue been resolved (if it ever existed)?" }-
1. No
2. About 5 to 15MB RAM on normal operation. More running on on-demand scan. Performance impact on XP (based on internal testing) = 3.4%
3. Yes, has self-protection since version 1.1.

-{ Quote: "Is there any difference between Free and Pro?" }-
Yes, look at the bottom of http://blog.cloudantivirus.com/2010/10/27/panda-cloud-antivirus-1-3/

[Mongol]

The free license link is working here now. Thanks a billion PBust & Panda...:thumb: ;D

[acr1965]

-{ Quote: "1. No
2. About 5 to 15MB RAM on normal operation. More running on on-demand scan. Performance impact on XP (based on internal testing) = 3.4%
3. Yes, has self-protection since version 1.1.
" }-

Thanks for the info-

I guess I should have asked one more question. Could you give some info about the toolbar? Is this a black list of sites or is the web/url blocking based on some behavior analysis/site content? Or is this some combo of both?

[pbust]

Black-list pushed down to clients based on analysis performed on our backend servers.

[pbust]

Giveaway has been turned on for most countries now. Please try again if you had problems before.

[rogervernon]

Running now on W7, 64 bit.
Seems Okey-dokey!
Silly question - how do you tell which version you have? :-\

[carat]

Click on the "?" button :)

[rogervernon]

Oh bugger! :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

[Mongol]

Got a small problem here, the URL filter is blocking my yahoo homepage..."my.yahoo.com". It says it can't find it?

Well disregard, it looks like they corrected it already, now it pulls in......:thumb: :wacko: ;D

[pbust]

Loads here fine. Is it being blocked (with a red warning message) or "cannot find"?

[JohnnyDollar]

@pbust
First of all, I would like to say that I appreciate Panda giving me a free license to Panda Cloud Pro. I can't activate it though. I installed it, but the program is telling me that my code is invalid. I know it's the right code, because I pasted it right off of the trial pay web page. So, I got into my account at cloud av, entered the code, and it tells me that it expires October 29, 2010. I chose "release license" just to see what would happen, and it also told me that it was invalid.

Thanks

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "@pbust
First of all, I would like to say that I appreciate Panda giving me a free license to Panda Cloud Pro. I can't activate it though. I installed it, but the program is telling me that my code is invalid. I know it's the right code, because I pasted it right off of the trial pay web page. So, I got into my account at cloud av, entered the code, and it tells me that it expires October 29, 2010. I chose "release license" just to see what would happen, and it also told me that it was invalid. " }-
Weird, can you try to sign up for another code and try again to see if the problem persists?

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "Got a small problem here, the URL filter is blocking my yahoo homepage..."my.yahoo.com". It says it can't find it?

Well disregard, it looks like they corrected it already, now it pulls in......:thumb: :wacko: ;D" }-

I think Yahoo was down for a few mins, I got the same thing and as I was submitting it to get fixed it starting pulling the site again.

[JohnnyDollar]

-{ Quote: "Weird, can you try to sign up for another code and try again to see if the problem persists?" }-
Ok, it's working now. Boy...I feel like such a super newbie. The problem was that whenever I was pasting the code, there was a space being left before the first character. :wacko:

Thanks for responding.:)

[Mongol]

-{ Quote: "I think Yahoo was down for a few mins, I got the same thing and as I was submitting it to get fixed it starting pulling the site again." }-

Same here, its up and running now...;D :thumb:

[hirudoid2]

It is working fine here. Been using the free version and now I am happy to be a owner of the Pro version.
Thanks Panda!

[RejZoR]

Excellent. Nice to see more and more "Pro" features in Free edition.

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "another question, does the free license start ticking the minute u finish the registration or does it start once u actually activate it in the product" }-
It starts ticking only after you activate it in the product. You can keep the license around for some months (3 to 6, I don't remember which) if you want to activate it later, and still get the 1 year license.

[RejZoR]

pbust, is it possible to have Web filtering without the stupid toolbar? I hate toolbars and always will, but i like web filter. I'm using Firefox.
Any way to use it without toolbar?

[Sputnik]

@RejZoR
As far I could see the only way to do so is to install the toolbar and disabling or hiding it in your browser.

@phaser
Good find! Totally missed that :-[

[phaser]

-{ Quote: "pbust, is it possible to have Web filtering without the stupid toolbar? I hate toolbars and always will, but i like web filter. I'm using Firefox.
Any way to use it without toolbar?" }-


RejZoR, I think it is. You can go to Add/remove programs and uninstall all toolbar parts except "URL filter". But maybe it's safer just to hide/disable the toolbar in IE and Firefox.


I haven't tried Panda Cloud since v1.0 and and the new version looks much better so far.
I'm not too excited about the "URL Error Redirection" so I don't think I'll be using the "Malicious Web & URL Filtering" feature unfortunately...

[Matthijs5nl]

Thanks for this release.
The free antiviruses are more and more proving you really don't have to pay anymore. Panda with this release which makes it more mature, avast! with the version 6 plans, AVG with the Identity Protection in the free version.

The most important fixes for me:
- the annoying bug of slow loading Start Menu items on Windows 7 is indeed fixex; and
- the revamped Quarantine/Recycle Bin behavior.
Those were my problems with the previous version, and now both fixed.

So great job Panda!

(Future Request: Web filtering without a toolbar (like ESET and avast!), I am sorry: but never will any toolbar be installed on my pc.)

[trjam]

yep, Pbust, Panda gets a :thumb: up from me on this release. You folks are cooking in the kitchen.;)

[ELWIS1]

I went to a few pages of any malware and is not blocked WebFilter.

Thanks to Panda for a license. Great idea:)

[RejZoR]

-{ Quote: "RejZoR, I think it is. You can go to Add/remove programs and uninstall all toolbar parts except "URL filter". But maybe it's safer just to hide/disable the toolbar in IE and Firefox.


I haven't tried Panda Cloud since v1.0 and and the new version looks much better so far.
I'm not too excited about the "URL Error Redirection" so I don't think I'll be using the "Malicious Web & URL Filtering" feature unfortunately..." }-

Well, i tried this way, but the blog that was suppose to be a test link did nothing. It just said that blog doesn't exist.

[pbust]

Regarding keeping the Web & URL filtering component *without* the toolbar, follow these steps:

1. Install Panda Cloud Antivirus 1.3 including the toolbar.
2. Go to Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs. You will see two entries:
- Panda Security Toolbar
- Panda Security Toolbar URL Filtering
3. Uninstall only "Panda Security Toolbar"

With this process you will get the URL Filtering without the toolbar.

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Well, i tried this way, but the blog that was suppose to be a test link did nothing. It just said that blog doesn't exist." }-
Please disregard that (I'm actually going to edit that out of the post). We are putting up a test page and I will post it here when it's ready.

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

Hi, nice improvements and very nice giveaway :) How long will the giveaway last?

-{ Quote: "Regarding keeping the Web & URL filtering component *without* the toolbar, follow these steps:

1. Install Panda Cloud Antivirus 1.3 including the toolbar.
2. Go to Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs. You will see two entries:
- Panda Security Toolbar
- Panda Security Toolbar URL Filtering
3. Uninstall only "Panda Security Toolbar"

With this process you will get the URL Filtering without the toolbar." }-

Ah thanks, good that it is possible.

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Hi, nice improvements and very nice giveaway :) How long will the giveaway last?" }-
Thanks! It'll last 48 hours according to CNET:
http://download.cnet.com/Panda-Cloud-Antivirus-Free-Edition/3000-2239_4-10914099.html?part=dl-55967&subj=dl&tag=button

[Ibrad]

@Pbust: A user at another forum told me that every page at the popular malware link site was redirecting them to the Panda URL shield page saying page can not be found. Any reason why all the pages that should be blocked are redirecting to a page not found page:
http://remove-malware.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=8603&p=76673#p76673

[pbust]

Couple of notes about the Web/URL filter:

* It doesn't work under Sandboxie as reported by another user.
* If the page is down it won't show a "blocked page", it'll show a 404.

[ALookingInView]

Cool, congratulations to the PCAV team on v1.3. Nice improvements.
Also, my thanks to Panda Security for the Pro license giveaway.

[ExtremeGamerBR]

Thanks for the giveaway! :thumb:

[SAW]

Thanks Pbust, for the licence, the tool bar seems to work fine in the admin account but seems to be unable to load in a limited user account or could it just be my machine?

[Morro]

-{ Quote: "Thanks Pbust, for the licence, the tool bar seems to work fine in the admin account but seems to be unable to load in a limited user account or could it just be my machine?" }-

Except for what i mentioned in my previous post. :)

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Thanks Pbust, for the licence, the tool bar seems to work fine in the admin account but seems to be unable to load in a limited user account or could it just be my machine?" }-
I'm not much of an expert in toolbars, but if a first reboot after install doesn't fix it, try installing it manually under the user account. http://www.pandasecurity.com/toolbar/PandaSecurityToolbar.exe

[Kernelwars]

Thanks to panda security for the pro giveaway. I currently own one license but now can use the pro for my other machine. Many thanks..;D

[Kyle1420]

Hello, When does the license start - from the receiving date? or from the date it was installed?

thx

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Hello, When does the license start - from the receiving date? or from the date it was installed?

thx" }-
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1774391&postcount=59

[buckslayr]

That was such an awesome offer. Thanks again!

[flik]

Hi. I installed pca 1.3, with the security toolbar.
But it seems that the toolbar hasn't installed properly. I can't find it in none of the browsers (chrome, ff, ie, opera). Anyway, I don't care about the toolbar it self, but how could check if url filtering works.
In add/remove program list, there are all the 3 programs (id protection, toolbar, tollbar url filtering).
I run win7 x64 ultimate.

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Hi. I installed pca 1.3, with the security toolbar.
But it seems that the toolbar hasn't installed properly. I can't find it in none of the browsers (chrome, ff, ie, opera). Anyway, I don't care about the toolbar it self, but how could check if url filtering works.
In add/remove program list, there are all the 3 programs (id protection, toolbar, tollbar url filtering).
I run win7 x64 ultimate." }-
Try uninstalling all those 3 and then installing the toolbar manually from http://www.pandasecurity.com/toolbar/PandaSecurityToolbar.exe

[ESS474]

Where i find the offline installer?

Thanks for free license. :)

[The_ChamP]

U can find offline installer on majorgeeks

[Kernelwars]

-{ Quote: "Try uninstalling all those 3 and then installing the toolbar manually from http://www.pandasecurity.com/toolbar/PandaSecurityToolbar.exe" }-
still not showing the toolbar.. I even tried to installed the toolbar manually:-\

[pbust]

Which browser and version are you looking at?
What "Panda" entries do you have under Add/Remove Programs?
Do you have a panda2_0dn.exe process running?

[Kernelwars]

-{ Quote: "Which browser and version are you looking at?
What "Panda" entries do you have under Add/Remove Programs?
Do you have a panda2_0dn.exe process running?" }-
IE8.. panda cloud, security toolbar, identity protect.. yes and that process is running

[kasperking]

hmmm...after running with panda for sometime prevx has this to say.......i know it's a fp:P

[kasperking]

hi pedro one more thing......i decided to uninstall panda but revo shows four panda icons....so does all the different components install separately ?

[Ibrad]

Panda Cloud AV: The main AV
Panda ID Protection/Toolbar = Kinda tied with each other, if you uninstall the toolbar the ID protection is removed to
Panda URL Filter: The URL guard

[tobacco]

-{ Quote: "Panda Cloud AV: The main AV
Panda ID Protection/Toolbar = Kinda tied with each other, if you uninstall the toolbar the ID protection is removed to
Panda URL Filter: The URL guard" }-

And is this "ID Protection" any good ???

[pbust]

It looks as if the "Panda Security Toolbar URL Filtering" did not install correctly. Can you please remove these 3 via Add/Remove and then finish the job with Revo?
- Panda ID Protection
- Panda Security Toolbar
- Panda Security Toolbar URL Filtering

After they are all removed even with revo, try to do the manual install again.

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "hmmm...after running with panda for sometime prevx has this to say.......i know it's a fp:P" }-
Thanks for the report. Yes, obviously a false positive by Prevx.

[Kernelwars]

ok uninstalled and reinstalled now I have 3 of em--identity, toolbar and url.. but still its not showing ..FYI panda2_0dn.exe is running

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "ok uninstalled and reinstalled now I have 3 of em--identity, toolbar and url.. but still its not showing ..FYI panda2_0dn.exe is running" }-
Can you send me system specs, configs and list of software installed so we may try to replicate it?

[Kernelwars]

restart did the trick.. its working now:argh:

[Brocke]

Pbust,


anyway to use the ID and Web Filtering with out the toolbar?

[clocks]

-{ Quote: "Pbust,


anyway to use the ID and Web Filtering with out the toolbar?" }-

They want you to install the toolbar. That is how they make a little money. Just use a secure dns like norton, comodo, etc. and skip the toolbar. Also most current browsers also have added virus protection. IE does, Opera does, and I believe firefox might also.

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "Pbust,


anyway to use the ID and Web Filtering with out the toolbar?" }-
See post #67.....

[The Hammer]

-{ Quote: "They want you to install the toolbar. That is how they make a little money. Just use a secure dns like norton, comodo, etc. and skip the toolbar. Also most current browsers also have added virus protection. IE does, Opera does, and I believe firefox might also." }-
What's the concern about the toolbar?

[Technic]

W7 64-Bit Security Center does not detect AV and Spyware protection at all. Previous version worked fine. Does not look good. :lurking:

[3GUSER]

-{ Quote: "W7 64-Bit Security Center does not detect AV and Spyware protection at all. Previous version worked fine. Does not look good. :lurking:" }-

Perform the instructions here :http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN367

If your problem is caused by corrupted WMI , then it will get fixed

[taleblou]

Hi:

Can I save the license for later and use at anytime? Right now I am using AVG antivirus pro that I got from the August 2010 giveaway and my AVG license is valid until August 2011. So can I save my panda cloud antivirus pro license for later? If it has a time limit please tell me exactly how long I can store it before activating it. Thanks for your answers.

[smage]

-{ Quote: "I'm not sure if it's just me but I'm having problems running this with Comodo's firewall. I installed Comodo first, the PC ran fine then installed Panda and it keeps locking up. Any Windows services or programs become unaccessible. Can't load task manager, IE, Ctrl alt del does nothing, etc. This is on Windows 7x64. Uninstalling Comodo seems to fix the problem.

Other than that, very nice and thanks for the free license once again ;D" }-

Hi you should install Comodo firewall first and then you install Panda.

Then you should go to Defense+ Tab, then Defense+ Settings, then Execution Control Settings, then Exclusions, then add the whole Panda Security folder to the list.

This seems to solve the conflict for some people.

Regards

[Noob]

Awesome !! Got 1! ;D

[carat]

-{ Quote: "
Can I save the license for later and use at anytime?" }-

-{ Quote: "http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1774391&postcount=59" }-

:thumb:

[Brocke]

I uninstalled the toolbar. how do i know the webfilter is working?

[taleblou]

Hi:
Here is the video test of this latest panda cloud antivirus 1.3 and it does not look good. It has failed badly in malware testing.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uBsIH3jds8

But the good news is this other test of panda cloud antivirus plus comodo firewall & Defense plus combination has a great result since comodo blocked all the malwares panda cloud let through. SO if using panda cloud antivirus then use comodo with it for complete protection.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLQ1GblDbNE

Anyway I think I stick with my current AVG pro plus comodo.

[3GUSER]

-{ Quote: "Hi:
Here is the video test of this latest panda cloud antivirus 1.3 and it does not look good. It has failed badly in malware testing.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uBsIH3jds8" }-

You don't need a YouTube video to prove you that Panda's protection is no protection and high resourses . So far I haven't seen a video or a case where Panda deals with the malware as it should . But their marketing is great!

I don't understand what is all this "party" here about - so many posts thanking Panda and Cnet for ... let me think ... nothing .They add new feautures , they add new processes => higher resourses but practially Panda Cloud's protection is poor.
It is all just marketing . Panda icons all around and fake sense of security for about 30 $

Additionally , have you noticed how many times Panda showed an error even before the Lan Guy started to run malware - about antiphishing.

[Brocke]

to test to webfilter you can go here

http://zzhxylhmvoinlas.blogspot.com

its blocked by PCA and you cant get passed it.

[gery]

i installed Panda Cloud free and installed the key after that i could not find WILDERS ANYMORE it redirected me to amazon or something else
anyone having the issue?

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "You don't need a YouTube video to prove you that Panda's protection is no protection and high resourses . So far I haven't seen a video or a case where Panda deals with the malware as it should . But their marketing is great!

I don't understand what is all this "party" here about - so many posts thanking Panda and Cnet for ... let me think ... nothing .They add new feautures , they add new processes => higher resourses but practially Panda Cloud's protection is poor.
It is all just marketing . Panda icons all around and fake sense of security for about 30 $

Additionally , have you noticed how many times Panda showed an error even before the Lan Guy started to run malware - about antiphishing." }-

Completely disagree with you.. Panda is doing good in various Independent tests and you cannot disagree with that. I won't comment about Languy's testing because neither HE nor YOU & ME are from any reputed testing labs.

[pegr]

-{ Quote: "Automatic and transparent upgrades to new product versions, previously only available in the Pro Edition, this is now available in the Free Edition as well. All users of Free Editions versions 1.1.0, 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 will automatically and transparently upgrade to the new 1.3." }-The following link needs updating to reflect the change: http://www.cloudantivirus.com/en/basicProtection/

[rogervernon]

On starting up this morning I had a pop-up saying that Panda anti-phishing has stopped working.
I think perhaps it did not install properly as there was a hang on install which seemed to correct itself after a while.
Using W7 Home Premium 64 bit with W7 firewall control.
?

Just done a re-start with W7 Firewall off and get the same message.
Here is the error code.
"Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BEX
Application Name: panda2_0dn.exe
Application Version: 1.0.0.57
Application Timestamp: 4cc43d9b
Fault Module Name: panda2_0dn.exe
Fault Module Version: 1.0.0.57
Fault Module Timestamp: 4cc43d9b
Exception Offset: 0002de0f
Exception Code: c0000417
Exception Data: 00000000
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.768.3
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Information 1: 8c66
Additional Information 2: 8c66fc11666ab580d77f445aa7a15b84
Additional Information 3: 6181
Additional Information 4: 6181868768a228fdc1292b3dbaa973b4"

LATER!
I've just done a repair installation with W7 Firewall & control off and the fault is there again.

More LATER!
Following the advice for a related problem with the phishing filter , on the Panda help forum, I have un-installed the URL filter and that seems to have done the trick.
(BTW - I'm using Clear Cloud DNS - would that have been a possible cause?)

[sg09]

I am running good with my present setup (see sig). Can I replace Immunet Pro with Panda Pro without any conflicts?

[simisg]

-{ Quote: "I am running good with my present setup (see sig). Can I replace Immunet Pro with Panda Pro without any conflicts?" }-

no reason to do that immunet pro has highest detection because of bitdefender
and its lghter ..... also you have vipre that may conflict with panda

[rafaelsct01]

-{ Quote: "On starting up this morning I had a pop-up saying that Panda anti-phishing has stopped working.
I think perhaps it did not install properly as there was a hang on install which seemed to correct itself after a while.
Using W7 Home Premium 64 bit with W7 firewall control.
?

Just done a re-start with W7 Firewall off and get the same message.
Here is the error code.
"Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BEX
Application Name: panda2_0dn.exe
Application Version: 1.0.0.57
Application Timestamp: 4cc43d9b
Fault Module Name: panda2_0dn.exe
Fault Module Version: 1.0.0.57
Fault Module Timestamp: 4cc43d9b
Exception Offset: 0002de0f
Exception Code: c0000417
Exception Data: 00000000
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.768.3
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Information 1: 8c66
Additional Information 2: 8c66fc11666ab580d77f445aa7a15b84
Additional Information 3: 6181
Additional Information 4: 6181868768a228fdc1292b3dbaa973b4"

LATER!
I've just done a repair installation with W7 Firewall & control off and the fault is there again.

More LATER!
Following the advice for a related problem with the phishing filter , on the Panda help forum, I have un-installed the URL filter and that seems to have done the trick.
(BTW - I'm using Clear Cloud DNS - would that have been a possible cause?)" }-

i have the same problem!

[Kyle1420]

-{ Quote: "http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1774391&postcount=59" }-
Thanks!

[sg09]

-{ Quote: "no reason to do that immunet pro has highest detection because of bitdefender
and its lghter ..... also you have vipre that may conflict with panda" }-
Yes you are right....:-X
Trying now in VM.

[ace11]

-{ Quote: "You don't need a YouTube video to prove you that Panda's protection is no protection and high resourses . So far I haven't seen a video or a case where Panda deals with the malware as it should . But their marketing is great!

I don't understand what is all this "party" here about - so many posts thanking Panda and Cnet for ... let me think ... nothing .They add new feautures , they add new processes => higher resourses but practially Panda Cloud's protection is poor.
It is all just marketing . Panda icons all around and fake sense of security for about 30 $

Additionally , have you noticed how many times Panda showed an error even before the Lan Guy started to run malware - about antiphishing." }-

+1 !
:dry:

[Vladimyr]

-{ Quote: "Hi:
Here is the video test of this latest panda cloud antivirus 1.3 and it does not look good. It has failed badly in malware testing.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uBsIH3jds8

But the good news is this other test of panda cloud antivirus plus comodo firewall & Defense plus combination has a great result since comodo blocked all the malwares panda cloud let through. SO if using panda cloud antivirus then use comodo with it for complete protection.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLQ1GblDbNE

Anyway I think I stick with my current AVG pro plus comodo." }-

Regardless of PCA 1.3's effectiveness, is it significant that languy99's VM installation consistently reported no internet connection?

[hirudoid22]

Panda works as it should with internet connection and connection to the cloud.

[Technic]

-{ Quote: "Perform the instructions here :http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN367

If your problem is caused by corrupted WMI , then it will get fixed" }-

This time I had to uninstall AND reinstall Panda. That fixed my problem. Thanks for the nice tip though. :)

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "Hi:
Here is the video test of this latest panda cloud antivirus 1.3 and it does not look good. It has failed badly in malware testing.

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uBsIH3jds8
" }-

Now due to my slow internet speed I had to skip to the malware testing but I think I saw the Anti-Phishing/URL Guard had an error when he first installed and was not running. I wonder how that could have changed things.

[eugene91]

I think Pbust posted at pcav forums to uninstall it for the time being? there are quite a number of people who's having that issue as well, which I do on my desktop.. Anti-Phising URL Guard error..

[Securon]

Good Morning ! I use Prevx 3.0...and after my usual morning scan it detected three suspected files all Panda...and one it described as high detection malware...the thing that leaves a bad taste in my mouth...is with Prevx...not being able too identify that the supposed threats come from a reputable competitor...in this case Panda. What I'm alluding to is why would a reputable competitor infect your P.C. and as such why wouldn't Prevx's detection base automatically detect it and delete it without unduly annoying the user...with a system infected alert. Sincerely...Securon

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "I think Pbust posted at pcav forums to uninstall it for the time being? there are quite a number of people who's having that issue as well, which I do on my desktop.. Anti-Phising URL Guard error.." }-

Yes but only for users that are having troubles, for test you can uninstall the current toolbar and URL filter then reinstall from the toolbar setup link given in the PCAV blog.

[shadek]

I had big hopes for this new release, as I have a 2 year valid license. But this was a huge disappointment. I'm tempted to actually contact the support to get my money back. What a waste.

PCA is nothing but a fraud, based on the system impact and the extremely bad detection rates against 0-day threats. :thumbd:

[Gauchoo]

I'm no expert when testing malware ... but the thing with the languy dude, he wouldn't test his precious Comodo stuff with malware when it looked as if it was not working right.


Thanks to pbust and Panda for the free pro license.

[ratchet]

I did take advantage of the give away but for the moment will stick with Avast Free. What I'm not understanding is the folks that are claiming it tests poorly when in fact, at least viewing the ongoing MRG tests, it is performing nearly perfect. It has only missed one sample since the tests began. Most of the popular a-vs have missed numerous samples!

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "the extremely bad detection rates against 0-day threats. :thumbd:" }-
says who? languy? lol...::)

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "says who? languy? lol...::)" }-

Oh, don't you know? If Languy says something is bad, not even God can argue ::) ;D On topic, not working with Sandboxie killed the deal for me.

[Ibrad]

Now I have not used Sandboxie so that may be wrong but is there somewhere in the app where you can allow certain files to access sandboxed files?

[ELWIS1]

I conducted a little test and panda Cloud on 3rd place.

[carat]

-{ Quote: "I conducted a little test and panda Cloud on 3rd place." }-

591 próbek = 591 samples? :doubt:

[ViVek]

-{ Quote: "591 próbek = 591 samples? :doubt:" }-


Yes :D

[ELWIS1]

Yes, Widzę, że jakiś Polak:D

I don't have such a powerful computer to run the example, the 10 000 samples.

[LODBROK]

1) My friend and I Thank You for the free licenses! :thumb: :thumb:

2) We both got this failure (see screenie) on our XP/SP3 systems during install and upon restart. I uninstalled both components. Running MBAM Pro, a DNS service and Firefox's built in blocking I am not interested in the Panda solution until user Whitelisting and a UI on/off function is implemented.

3) Languy99 couldn't test a AA flashlight battery.

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

Hi Pbust,
On Win7 x64 I uninstalled PCAV 1.1.2, rebooted, installed 1.3 including toolbar. Toolbar showed correctly in the browser, but there was no panda2_0dn.exe process running though. Rebooted again, still no process, then I manually installed the Toolbar again from the link provided in the blog but still no process. But there are no errors like in the screenshot from the post above me. Repair/remove programs shows 4 installed: Panda Cloud Antivirus, Panda Identity Protect, Panda Security Toolbar, Panda Security Toolbar URL filtering. This was both before and after I manually installed the toolbar again.

[3GUSER]

-{ Quote: "Completely disagree with you" }-

If you read all the latest posts here and also in other forums (and if you have the chance to test yourself) , do you still disagree ?

From what I see for the release of PCA 1.3 :
# great marketing - mass IT media shocked us with news about this "great" release
# forum here full of posts about it

# practially
@ we see poor malware protection - Panda could clean , can't protect :dry:
@ no quality assurance - how could they miss this obvious bug re. antiphishing appearing on so many computers or their marketing just rushed to get some more attention

A security product from a company that strives for good reputation must be flawless , must be trouble free , install with no problems and actually protect the computer well enough. Panda is far from this

You all seem to be excited just because an employee from the company (in this case pbust and Pandasecurity) is giving you so much attention in your favourite place (a.k.a. here). Presents, attention and giveaways doesn't make a given product The Product.

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "Oh, don't you know? If Languy says something is bad, not even God can argue ::) ;D On topic, not working with Sandboxie killed the deal for me." }-

No! I test approximately 50 new 0-day malware a day on in my own testing environment (with ShadowDefender of course), and PCA detects about 10% of them. That is pure ********. Languy is a joke in my opinion. PCA is a waste of money. I dick on it. I seldom use these kind of harsh words, but PCA is utter garbage.

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "No! I test approximately 50 new 0-day malware a day on in my own testing environment (with ShadowDefender of course), and PCA detects about 10% of them. That is pure ********. Languy is a joke in my opinion. PCA is a waste of money. I dick on it. I seldom use these kind of harsh words, but PCA is utter garbage." }-

You sound like I was coming after you, lol. I agree Languy is a waste of time and so are the vast majority of Youtube tests. Some around here take Languy as proof of something, of course, some around here also have worship services for various other vendors and software. What can ya do? *shrug* ;D

[Kees1958]

But LanGuy has a whole community following him, doing simular tests on a VM and chasing some malware domains (;D ). So he is an opinion leader and he must be a great malware chaser, a security expert, an ICT-visionair (:argh: ). According to Languy AntiVirus can have a good day or a bad day, depending on the focus of their blacklist (:D), on any given zero day, you win or you lose :P

When Melih has no humereous blog of movie I sometimes watch Languy's reviews for entertainment.

[codylucas16]

-{ Quote: "But LanGuy has a whole community following him, doing simular tests on a VM and chasing some malware domains (;D ). So he is an opinion leader and he must be a great malware chaser, a security expert, an ICT-visionair (:argh: ). According to Languy AntiVirus can have a good day or a bad day, depending on the focus of their blacklist (:D), on any given zero day, you win or you lose :P

When Melih has no humereous blog of movie I sometimes watch Languy's reviews for entertainment." }-


From what I've seen Languy is just like every other person posting these "reviews" on Youtube. He has no idea what he's doing, no idea how half the products he tests work and then says everything is bad but his favourite products.

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "You sound like I was coming after you, lol. I agree Languy is a waste of time and so are the vast majority of Youtube tests. Some around here take Languy as proof of something, of course, some around here also have worship services for various other vendors and software. What can ya do? *shrug* ;D" }-

It was never my intention coming after you. I'm trying not to be biased although you can fairly easy see what I'm using in my signature. I do try most of the security softwares against my own source of 0-day malware (not MDL and I test security apps against aprox. 50 0-day malwares each day). PCA is the biggest joke and fraud there is on the market. It's a controversial and strong opinion, I know. But I face the facts of the detection, prevention and removal of malware.

PCA markets itself as being lightweight and cloud-based and claims their software do all the work "in the cloud". That is an obvious lie of course. Compare PCA to (in my case) Prevx after installation and you'll see what's "most in-the-cloud" when it comes to size of installation and prompts made from the cloud. I rest my case.

PCA is still slow when it comes to notifications of detections. It still uses the same amount of disk I/O usage. It still have an extremely poor detection rate. And let's not even get into its cleaning capacities.

Pbust, I know you'll read this, and you have plenty of work to do when it comes to inform the developers behind this fraud of software. I want my money back, but I know I cannot. Hell, PCA can't even remove a month old TDSS.

Oh, on a side note, all of you know a real Panda is a bear, right? Strong, brave and ruthless. In this case, Panda Cloud Antivirus is a scared cat afraid of a mouse.

This will be my last post in this thread. Good bye Panda.

[Ibrad]

I just tested the notification and they came up much faster then the past version.

[JohnnyDollar]

-{ Quote: "It was never my intention coming after you. I'm trying not to be biased although you can fairly easy see what I'm using in my signature. I do try most of the security softwares against my own source of 0-day malware (not MDL and I test security apps against aprox. 50 0-day malwares each day). PCA is the biggest joke and fraud there is on the market. It's a controversial and strong opinion, I know. But I face the facts of the detection, prevention and removal of malware.

PCA markets itself as being lightweight and cloud-based and claims their software do all the work "in the cloud". That is an obvious lie of course. Compare PCA to (in my case) Prevx after installation and you'll see what's "most in-the-cloud" when it comes to size of installation and prompts made from the cloud. I rest my case.

PCA is still slow when it comes to notifications of detections. It still uses the same amount of disk I/O usage. It still have an extremely poor detection rate. And let's not even get into its cleaning capacities.
" }-
Citation please. Provide the facts of detection please. I'm not talking about some amateur YouTube video.

-{ Quote: "
Pbust, I know you'll read this, and you have plenty of work to do when it comes to inform the developers behind this fraud of software. I want my money back, but I know I cannot. Hell, PCA can't even remove a month old TDSS.

Oh, on a side note, all of you know a real Panda is a bear, right? Strong, brave and ruthless. In this case, Panda Cloud Antivirus is a scared cat afraid of a mouse.

This will be my last post in this thread. Good bye Panda." }-
Sounds like you have an axe to grind with Panda.

[clocks]

IMO 3GUSER & SHADEK speak the truth. Their findings seem very similar to my own. I am not a AMTSO testing agency, but try 20-30 (or 500) random malware links with PCAV vs something like Prevx, Norton, CIS, etc.. and you will see a huge difference in protection.

And PCAV is no lighter than most other anti-malware programs.

[billy13]

I had to uninstall it too... Didn't like it at all...:o

[JohnnyDollar]

-{ Quote: "IMO 3GUSER & SHADEK speak the truth. Their findings seem very similar to my own. I am not a AMTSO testing agency, but try 20-30 (or 500) random malware links with PCAV vs something like Prevx, Norton, CIS, etc.. and you will see a huge difference in protection.

And PCAV is no lighter than most other anti-malware programs." }-
I use Prevx myself. My license expires in a couple of weeks. I'm trialing Panda right now. Not against drive by downloads though. It does use more RAM than what one would think that a Cloud AV should.

There seems to be some serious contempt for Panda here. That's fine, because hey, we all have likes and dislikes. Some of us have gotten the shaft by a vendor, and that's understandable. I just feel that regardless of what one's feelings on a particular product are, that if one is going to make statements as if they are fact, then one needs to back it up. Because if you don't it undermines your credibility.

These youtube videos can be interesting sometimes, but they're certainly not scientific. I don't do my own testing in VMs. I could, but I've got other stuff to keep me busy. I have to go by reputable testers, reputable word of mouth, and what personal experience that I have with the product. I'm skeptical about this AV a little myself.

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "Citation please. Provide the facts of detection please. I'm not talking about some amateur YouTube video." }-

Fair enough. No more than 10% of the 0-day malware of the daily conducted tests I do were detected. My empirical experiences are what they are. I'll let all who uses PCA experience its performance and make their own judgement towards it. In my case, I'm sure I'll not come crawling back to the cross because I was infected with malware.

Panda claims to be "The first free antivirus from the cloud". Yeah, right. There were several vendors who introduced the cloud system years before Panda did, and free they were/are. Claiming to be lightweighted? Mmmhmm, let's think about it. Look at the installation size. Look at the disk I/O. Look at the signatures downloaded even though it's a 'cloud-based AV'. Panda says; PCA protects you when disconnected from the Internet. How could that be one may wonder? THEY CLAIM TO BE A ANTIVIRUS OF THE CLOUD. If it's a cloud-based AV, it shouldn't have local signatures in the first place. It's all a fraud, that's the conclusion I've come to.

[The_ChamP]

I uninstalled it too..back to mse...pca is not light..is sluggish

[clocks]

-{ Quote: "
There seems to be some serious contempt for Panda here. That's fine, because hey, we all have likes and dislikes. Some of us have gotten the shaft by a vendor, and that's understandable." }-


Honesty, I have no contempt for Panda. Pedro and the their forums mods seem like great guys. But unfortunately, I just don't think PCAV is the greatest product at this time.

And as SHADEK mentions, Pandas disk IO is very high. Ram use is very average. And CPU time has not been low in all the times I have trailed the program. I really don't see this cloud program matching it's "light weight" marketing.

[pbust]

@shadek, @clocks & @3GUSER, I'm a bit surprised at this agressiveness out of the blue.

Any and every one of your rants apply just the same to any other AV out there (not detecting very recent malware, having an impact on the system, etc.). By definition AV, cloud or not, will not detect 100% of the malware and will have some impact on the PC. The very nature of cloud-based approach is to rely more on reputation and telemetry to prioritize malware which is in circulation within the community, not a bunch of latent non-running malware which exists only in a couple of VMs testing products.

Tests of 10 or 50 recent malwares are not statistically significant to proof anything other than your own lack of knowledge. I can find 10, 50 or 100 recent malwares that PCAV detects and your <choose_your_favourite> AV doesn't, any day of the week.

And what's with the bashing about install size and I/O? What matters is overall performance impact on the system, not some random metric which you happen to stumble across by accident. So what if one product uses more or less private bytes, disk I/O or number of processes? As long as it does its job without impacting performance what is it to you how it does it?

And why don't you talk about the recent independent tests from AV-Comparatives (OnDemand, Retrospective, Performance & Whole-Product) tests, the AV-Test.org Real-World tests, PCSL tests, the c't comparative, the MRG, etc.? Yes some of these are with Panda's CloudAV and some with Panda's AV/IS products, but detection-wise they are extremely similar if not the same.

Everyone's entitled to his/her own opinion, but I don't understand this type of bad-mouthing and senseless bashing just for the hell of it. Not only is it rude but also heavily opinionated. You know what they say about opinions, they're just like a*******, everybody's got one.

[clocks]

-{ Quote: "
And what's with the bashing about install size and I/O? What matters is overall performance impact on the system, not some random metric which you happen to stumble across by accident. So what if one product uses more or less private bytes, disk I/O or number of processes? As long as it does its job without impacting performance what is it to you how it does it?

" }-


Sorry if you felt my posts were "aggressive" and out of the blue. Ever since the first beta I have been reporting high resource usage to Panda. How does Panda labs measure impact if not with metrics?

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "@shadek, @clocks & @3GUSER, I'm a bit surprised at this agressiveness out of the blue.

Any and every one of your rants apply just the same to any other AV out there (not detecting very recent malware, having an impact on the system, etc.). By definition AV, cloud or not, will not detect 100% of the malware and will have some impact on the PC. The very nature of cloud-based approach is to rely more on reputation and telemetry to prioritize malware which is in circulation within the community, not a bunch of latent non-running malware which exists only in a couple of VMs testing products.

Tests of 10 or 50 recent malwares are not statistically significant to proof anything other than your own lack of knowledge. I can find 10, 50 or 100 recent malwares that PCAV detects and your <choose_your_favourite> AV doesn't, any day of the week.

And what's with the bashing about install size and I/O? What matters is overall performance impact on the system, not some random metric which you happen to stumble across by accident. So what if one product uses more or less private bytes, disk I/O or number of processes? As long as it does its job without impacting performance what is it to you how it does it?

And why don't you talk about the recent independent tests from AV-Comparatives (OnDemand, Retrospective, Performance & Whole-Product) tests, the AV-Test.org Real-World tests, PCSL tests, the c't comparative, the MRG, etc.? Yes some of these are with Panda's CloudAV and some with Panda's AV/IS products, but detection-wise they are extremely similar if not the same.

Everyone's entitled to his/her own opinion, but I don't understand this type of bad-mouthing and senseless bashing just for the hell of it. Not only is it rude but also heavily opinionated. You know what they say about opinions, they're just like a*******, everybody's got one." }-

Pbust, you've been here long enough to know that the place has more than a few people with egos, bias and "home testers". You should be expecting this sort of thing as a vendor. That being said, some criticisms are honest and those are the ones you should listen to. I've personally used your product in the past and had many FPs, visual bugs and such things. This was the last version, by the way. In my case, I'm just not into the "cloud" idea of anything, so that's another reason I don't use it. Who knows, I may give 1.3 a shot.

[RejZoR]

pbust, do you have a test page for Web Filter set up? I'd like to check it if it's working correctly...

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Sorry if you felt my posts were "aggressive" and out of the blue. Ever since the first beta I have been reporting high resource usage to Panda. How does Panda labs measure impact if not with metrics?" }-
Absolutely agreed, take a look at the metrics. But 1 PC alone is not a good sign of a metric. We have millions if users without performance problem. Does it mean that if under 1 PC it has performance issue then it must be all automatically "junk"?

Maybe there's some conflict with another software, configuration, outdated driver, etc. Maybe PCAV has a bug or problem with your specific config which we need to fix. Maybe its a file format that's causing problems,... who knows, but I think we have been and are pretty open both here at wilders as well as over at the PCAV forum to troubleshoot any problems reported by users. If you truly have an interest in getting it fixed we would love to troubleshoot it with you and fix any bug we find.

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "pbust, do you have a test page for Web Filter set up? I'd like to check it if it's working correctly..." }-
We're making a new build with a fix for the crash as well as a test page. I'll post the download link here shortly.

In the meantime, here are some real-life ones you can check with:
hxxp://rumcash.net/smartdownload.exe
hxxp://rum-gulp.com/~toxicok/wp-content/languages/home.exe
hxxp://rubirol.cn/google/exe.php
hxxp://network3safety.com
hxxp://daniel157.justfree.com/webscr.htm
hxxp://blueopia92.net/xx1/tmp/pdfswf.pdf

[prairie dog]

Cnet is offering free 1 year license for next 48 hours.....see here (http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-20020804-12.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody) ;) . Not sure if its been posted yet

[TonyW]

-{ Quote: "Look at the signatures downloaded even though it's a 'cloud-based AV'. Panda says; PCA protects you when disconnected from the Internet. How could that be one may wonder? THEY CLAIM TO BE A ANTIVIRUS OF THE CLOUD. If it's a cloud-based AV, it shouldn't have local signatures in the first place." }-Isn't the point of the local signatures to protect users when they're disconnected from the internet? Don't forget there are dial-up users still out there. I don't think they are even the full signatures. You're criticising PCAV for this, but be aware that Prevx, which you speak highly of, is introducing a sub-set of signatures to be stored locally in its next version. Even Norton downloads signatures although they're using cloud-based services so the idea isn't all that unusual.

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "Isn't the point of the local signatures to protect users when they're disconnected from the internet? Don't forget there are dial-up users still out there. I don't think they are even the full signatures. You're criticising PCAV for this, but be aware that Prevx, which you speak highly of, is introducing a sub-set of signatures to be stored locally in its next version. Even Norton downloads signatures although they're using cloud-based services so the idea isn't all that unusual." }-

Total cloud-based security is a stupid idea to begin with, for the very reasons you just stated. There will be times when a system has no internet access, and, dial-up is sometimes the only choice in very small or rural areas.

[whitedragon551]

I enjoyed Panda Cloud Free. It was nice and light here and I rarely encounter malware. I had Free on my wife's netbook because of the lack of resources there. I ended up grabbing two keys, one for my wife's net book, and one for my laptop and I switched over the PCAV on both PC's in my house.

[Morro]

-{ Quote: "@shadek, @clocks & @3GUSER, I'm a bit surprised at this agressiveness out of the blue.

Any and every one of your rants apply just the same to any other AV out there (not detecting very recent malware, having an impact on the system, etc.). By definition AV, cloud or not, will not detect 100% of the malware and will have some impact on the PC. The very nature of cloud-based approach is to rely more on reputation and telemetry to prioritize malware which is in circulation within the community, not a bunch of latent non-running malware which exists only in a couple of VMs testing products.

Tests of 10 or 50 recent malwares are not statistically significant to proof anything other than your own lack of knowledge. I can find 10, 50 or 100 recent malwares that PCAV detects and your <choose_your_favourite> AV doesn't, any day of the week.

And what's with the bashing about install size and I/O? What matters is overall performance impact on the system, not some random metric which you happen to stumble across by accident. So what if one product uses more or less private bytes, disk I/O or number of processes? As long as it does its job without impacting performance what is it to you how it does it?

And why don't you talk about the recent independent tests from AV-Comparatives (OnDemand, Retrospective, Performance & Whole-Product) tests, the AV-Test.org Real-World tests, PCSL tests, the c't comparative, the MRG, etc.? Yes some of these are with Panda's CloudAV and some with Panda's AV/IS products, but detection-wise they are extremely similar if not the same.

Everyone's entitled to his/her own opinion, but I don't understand this type of bad-mouthing and senseless bashing just for the hell of it. Not only is it rude but also heavily opinionated. You know what they say about opinions, they're just like a*******, everybody's got one." }-


I agree, i do not have the bad experience that others hat so those problems can have so many reasons that it is absolutely unfair to say that PCAV v1.3 is a bad program.

Throwing 10 to 15 links at a AV is not a definite test of how good a AV program is as far as i am concerned. I have other things to say about Languys 2 Youtube videos for PCAV v1.3 but i think this is not the place to mention those things. :dry:

Many people here use a lot of different software/registry settings and the likes to protect their computer. All of those might influence how well PCAV works on their PC. If you have negative results does not mean others will have the same experience.

If you find a bug then mention it here, but please people stop this bashing of PCAV...in my opinion it is totally unfair.

[whitedragon551]

-{ Quote: "I agree, i do not have the bad experience that others hat so those problems can have so many reasons that it is absolutely unfair to say that PCAV v1.3 is a bad program.

Throwing 10 to 15 links at a AV is not a definite test of how good a AV program is as far as i am concerned. I have other things to say about Languys 2 Youtube videos for PCAV v1.3 but i think this is not the place to mention those things. :dry:

Many people here use a lot of different software/registry settings and the likes to protect their computer. All of those might influence how well PCAV works on their PC. If you have negative results does not mean others will have the same experience.

If you find a bug then mention it here, but please people stop this bashing of PCAV...in my opinion it is totally unfair." }-

In statistics class you have to have a significant sample to show a correlation. 10-15 random links out of the millions of infections out there is not significant by any means. The more infections you test against the more accurate the detection percentage will get.

[clocks]

-{ Quote: "

If you find a bug then mention it here, but please people stop this bashing of PCAV...in my opinion it is totally unfair." }-


I thought this was an open discussion forum? It is "unfair" for people to point out what they see as flaws in the program? Some of you are way too sensitive about software, and apparently just want one-sided talk.

[Morro]

-{ Quote: "I thought this was an open discussion forum? It is "unfair" for people to point out what they see as flaws in the program? Some of you are way too sensitive about software, and apparently just want one-sided talk." }-

:) Wise words clocks...listen to them yourself.

[drhu22]

RE: TRIALPAY ERROR

I tried the dl link with firefox and opera several times with no luck

The only way it would work was with ie8 on medium security

Hope this helps someone

[EliteKiller]

-{ Quote: "RE: TRIALPAY ERROR

I tried the dl link with firefox and opera several times with no luck

The only way it would work was with ie8 on medium security

Hope this helps someone" }-

The trialpay link in the url below works fine in FF 3.6.12

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13845_3-20021017-58.html

[abu shofwan]

@Pbust

Thank you so MUCH for this Pro license ;D I'll give it a try for my new laptop.

Keep your good work :thumb:

[Securon]

Good Evening ! I uninstalled Panda after Google froze...and went back to Avast 5.0.677...none the less I applaud Pedro and Panda for their generosity. I was somewhat leery of the Tool Bar and all the apps within the toolbar...and felt they probably consumed a fair bit of Ram...I believe in a more conventional setup with less clutter. But it will improve with time...and the dedication...and intelligence of Team Panda. Sincerely...Securon

[Arin]

The toolbar did give me problem as it crashed when I launched IE. But after 2 reboots it was all OK.

Now I have uninstalled the toolbar and kept only the AntiPhishing component. So far so good... alongwith Trend Micro Browser Guard 2010 :D

[carat]

-{ Quote: "I just tested the notification and they came up much faster then the past version." }-

What does much faster mean? Immediate? 3 seconds later? :-\

[ESS474]

Behavioral analysis and Behavior blocker is making my pc super slow, programs have been slow to start. :(

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "No! I test approximately 50 new 0-day malware a day on in my own testing environment (with ShadowDefender of course), and PCA detects about 10% of them. That is pure ********. Languy is a joke in my opinion. PCA is a waste of money. I dick on it. I seldom use these kind of harsh words, but PCA is utter garbage." }-

Where the heck you got 50 new 0-day malware? And merely testing 50 samples won't give you the exact picture..

[Mongol]

-{ Quote: "Behavioral analysis and Behavior blocker is making my pc super slow, programs have been slow to start. :(" }-

Doing a full system scan helped build a cache of programs and now Panda is breezing right along on my computer.

[Legendkiller]

is the offline installer available now?

meanwhile thanks a ton to panda for their wonderful update to their free offering and yeah their generous 1yr pro license...

[ESS474]

-{ Quote: "Doing a full system scan helped build a cache of programs and now Panda is breezing right along on my computer." }-

I know it, but here no diferences....

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "I know it, but here no diferences...." }-

Is it just at the first start of a program or also next times(since installation of PCAV/turning on behav. blocking and analysis)? Some security solutions analyze a program quite long for the first time to check if they are all right and then won't check again, unless it's checksums are changed, for example if they are updated or infected.

[Blackcat]

It's a pity that PCAV is getting some rough comments here, particularly as it is a free product and they are offering the Pro version for free for 12 months.

Yes, it is heavy in CPU time/I/O reads and writes but performance wise on several machines I have never felt any slowdowns. Further, unlike a number of other AV vendors they at least allow their product to be judged at the main testing sites and support here by Pedro is very good backed up by its own forum.

Those members not liking the program, move on to another AV and if you are not sure about the detection rate use a layered defense.

[Morro]

-{ Quote: "It's a pity that PCAV is getting some rough comments here, particularly as it is a free product and they are offering the Pro version for free for 12 months.

Yes, it is heavy in CPU time/I/O reads and writes but performance wise on several machines I have never felt any slowdowns. Further, unlike a number of other AV vendors they at least allow their product to be judged at the main testing sites and support here by Pedro is very good backed up by its own forum.

Those members not liking the program, move on to another AV and if you are not sure about the detection rate use a layered defense." }-

+1 :thumb:

[RejZoR]

I'll always say, any decent free alternative is welcome. PCAV is no exception. I like it since it's minimalistic and does provide decent protection with very good reaction times. Then it's up to user to decide what he prefers.

[jason_jiang]

-{ Quote: "is the offline installer available now?" }-
yes, http://acs.pandasoftware.com/cloud/CloudAntivirus.exe has been updated to 1.3

[Legendkiller]

-{ Quote: "yes, http://acs.pandasoftware.com/cloud/CloudAntivirus.exe has been updated to 1.3" }-

thanks will try it in VM soon:)

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "What does much faster mean? Immediate? 3 seconds later? :-\" }-

Well since my Internet is a little slower as soon as FireFox said download done.

[buddee]

well i have installed the pca free on nearly 100 + computers sine release 1.2, only 2 to 3 users complained about the speed issue or some other issue , rest of the users are very happy with PCA, so its not the issue with PCA its issue with the system, configurations and mostly running 2 or more security products togeather , and detection wise PCA is better than many titans, this is already proved by various independent labs

[icr]

Can anyone post the link to the actual installer.

[JoeBlack40]

One thing is for sure.PCAV must do something about the automatic deletion of the malware.It was a FP in my D drive and i wasn't able to recover the file.And for me this sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbd: !Back to Avast free.

[SweX]

-{ Quote: "One thing is for sure.PCAV must do something about the automatic deletion of the malware.It was a FP in my D drive and i wasn't able to recover the file.And for me this sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbd: !Back to Avast free." }-

I thought Panda had already fixed this, so that one is able to recover a file that has been moved into the quarantine, No?

[CiX]

-{ Quote: "Can anyone post the link to the actual installer." }-
see post #184

[FordPrefect]

Many thanx!

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "I thought Panda had already fixed this, so that one is able to recover a file that has been moved into the quarantine, No?" }-

Yeah I thought now with the new unified quarantine/recycle bin all files can be restored. I had a FP once and I was given the option to restore, though I did not because I wanted to see automatic restore work.

[SweX]

-{ Quote: "Yeah I thought now with the new unified quarantine/recycle bin all files can be restored. I had a FP once and I was given the option to restore, though I did not because I wanted to see automatic restore work." }-

So did the automatic restore work as it should then?

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "I thought Panda had already fixed this, so that one is able to recover a file that has been moved into the quarantine, No?" }-
For me it didn't.

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "So did the automatic restore work as it should then?" }-

Yes it did ;D

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "For me it didn't." }-

Nothing is here?

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "Nothing is here?" }-
Sorry,i know is sound stupid,but i don't have a screenshot to backup my saying.I'll try to replicate it in a virtual machine.Panda is not allowed on my real system.

[icr]

-{ Quote: "see post #184" }-


Oops missed that post;)

Thanks man

[TonyW]

-{ Quote: "Where the heck you got 50 new 0-day malware?" }-I imagine from sources such as MDL. The problem with those kind of lists is that the domains change very frequently, some even fast-fluxing, so it is hard to keep up. Once detection is added, the malware has moved on to another location.

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "Where the heck you got 50 new 0-day malware? And merely testing 50 samples won't give you the exact picture.." }-

Read my previous post carefully in this thread. I have my own source of malware samples and they were not collected from MDL and I tested a lot more than 50 samples. I test around 50 samples _each day_. So the number is probably around 500-1000 0-day samples, which gives you an idea of how effective an AV is. In fact, I can't even download stuff from MDL due to Clear Cloud DNS which blocks every single link posted on that site.

[TonyW]

-{ Quote: "I have my own source of malware samples and they were not collected from MDL..." }-I stand corrected. However, I'm sure you'll agree there is still a problem with zero-day malware in that they don't last very long as it moves around very quickly as you've more than likely seen when you look at your malware source(s) each day.

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "I stand corrected. However, I'm sure you'll agree there is still a problem with zero-day malware in that they don't last very long as it moves around very quickly as you've more than likely seen when you look at your malware source(s) each day." }-

Agreed.

[Saraceno]

-{ Quote: "Read my previous post carefully in this thread. I have my own source of malware samples and they were not collected from MDL and I tested a lot more than 50 samples. I test around 50 samples _each day_. So the number is probably around 500-1000 0-day samples, which gives you an idea of how effective an AV is. In fact, I can't even download stuff from MDL due to Clear Cloud DNS which blocks every single link posted on that site." }-

Keep in mind, a lot of malware protection services/programs are now adding sites like the MDL, to give the impression their software is providing exceptional protection. (I know you mentioned though, you gathered your samples from various sources)

Also, if malware samples are missed by a program (eg. panda), but the samples aren't being actively circulated or downloaded by internet users (on sites people would actually download from), than the malware is already ineffective.

About the new release, very generous of you pbust offering the full version to users. Thanks.

[Melchi501]

-{ Quote: "Keep in mind, a lot of malware protection services/programs are now adding sites like the MDL, to give the impression their software is providing exceptional protection. (I know you mentioned though, you gathered your samples from various sources)

Also, if malware samples are missed by a program (eg. panda), but the samples aren't being actively circulated or downloaded by internet users (on sites people would actually download from), than the malware is already ineffective.

About the new release, very generous of you pbust offering the full version to users. Thanks." }-

:thumb: :thumb:

Thanks Panda team

[carat]

I got a windows security center warning: No antivirus installed!

How can I solve this problem? :-\

[rogervernon]

Turn off Windows Security Centre notifications - it's not necessary if you have a modicum of control of, or interest in, your security set-up!

[Sputnik]

-{ Quote: "I got a windows security center warning: No antivirus installed!

How can I solve this problem? :-\" }-
Same problem here on Windows 7 x64. Already tried to reset/delete the repository but it doesn't solve the problem. Hopefully pbust can help us here :)

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Same problem here on Windows 7 x64. Already tried to reset/delete the repository but it doesn't solve the problem. Hopefully pbust can help us here :)" }-
Did you try the suggestion from 3GUSER?:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1774611&postcount=103

[Sputnik]

@pbust
First of all thanks for the new version and the generous offer!
I was aware of this solution and I tried it, I've got a fully new generated repository but PCA is still not detected. Thanks for the quick reply :thumb:
Also tried the method described here: http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN217

[PintoX]

Panda Antivirus PRO 2011 is better in detection rates? Or is the same? What is the main diference?

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "@pbust
First of all thanks for the new version and the generous offer!
I was aware of this solution and I tried it, I've got a fully new generated repository but PCA is still not detected. Thanks for the quick reply :thumb:
Also tried the method described here: http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN217" }-
I'll PM you a tool that'll query the WSC and see what it is seeing.

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Panda Antivirus PRO 2011 is better in detection rates? Or is the same? What is the main diference?" }-
Signature and heuristic wise its pretty much the same.
However there are differences based on the additional layers of protection. PavPro has firewall, identity protection, a different behavioural analysis engine, etc.

[Graystoke]

@pbust.....Is Panda planning on adding a scheduled scan option to Panda Cloud Pro in the future?

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "@pbust.....Is Panda planning on adding a scheduled scan option to Panda Cloud Pro in the future?" }-
PCAV already does its own background scans every so often of memory and objects it needs to check periodically, so there's really no need for a scheduled scan. We might include it in the future but its not one of the priorities.

[Sputnik]

-{ Quote: "@pbust
I was aware of this solution and I tried it, I've got a fully new generated repository but PCA is still not detected. Thanks for the quick reply :thumb:
Also tried the method described here: http://kb.eset.com/esetkb/index?page=content&id=SOLN217" }-
Solution:
1) Uninstall PCA;
2) Reboot;
3) Use the "Cloud_AV_Uninstaller.exe (http://www.cloudantivirus.com/forum/thread.jspa?threadID=51105&tstart=0)";
4) Reboot;
5) Reinstall PCA.

[Graystoke]

-{ Quote: "PCAV already does its own background scans every so often of memory and objects it needs to check periodically, so there's really no need for a scheduled scan. We might include it in the future but its not one of the priorities." }-

Thanks for the heads up pbust. I didn't know that PCAV performs background scans.

[whitedragon551]

Does PCAV have a fingerprinting tech to speed things up over time?

[Noob]

-{ Quote: "Does PCAV have a fingerprinting tech to speed things up over time?" }-
From my experience (I used the license on my Bro's laptop, and i used the free version for quite some time before) it seems like it doesn't have ;D

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Does PCAV have a fingerprinting tech to speed things up over time?" }-
Yes it does. It builds a dynamic cache of the scanned items so as to not scan them over and over. However objects in that cache have an expiration date depending on some variables, so as to check a file again in case it is detected in the future and for some reason was not previously detected.

At its peak with the cache fully and recently loaded, it should speed scans up to 3-5 times faster.

[whitedragon551]

Is there a way to set the expiration date in the cache to rescan at different times? Or is there only the default?

[RejZoR]

pbust, there is a bug in Behavior blocker part.

When i wanted to install Foxit PDF plugin for Firefox through Foxit PDF Reader, PCAV jumped and blocked the action. However, this very action is perfectly legit. Any way to somehow whitelist this?

[Noob]

Wow, sorry for my mis-informational post ;D

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Is there a way to set the expiration date in the cache to rescan at different times? Or is there only the default?" }-
Right now there isn't, but that's an interesting suggestion for a future setting for the advanced configuration. Thanks!

-{ Quote: "When i wanted to install Foxit PDF plugin for Firefox through Foxit PDF Reader, PCAV jumped and blocked the action. However, this very action is perfectly legit. Any way to somehow whitelist this?" }-
Thanks for the report. Right now there's no whitelist, only workaround is to temporarily disable the behaviour blocker, install the plugin and then re-enable the behaviour blocker. But with 1.3 we added hot-updating of behaviour blocking rules, so we will push the fix out to everybody as soon as we fix it.

[RejZoR]

Thx pbust. Would it be possible to "upgrade" this blocking rule, so it would be a bit more fine tuned around Foxit PDF Reader? If there is no whitelisting, i guess you could refine the rule a bit so it will only jump on actually malicious actions.

[Sputnik]

-{ Quote: "We're making a new build with a fix for the crash as well as a test page. I'll post the download link here shortly.
" }-
Panda Security Toolbar v2.0.0.5
http://research.pandasecurity.com/blogs/images/_download/PandaSecurityTb_2.0.0.5.exe

[Morro]

Pbust, did a automatic update happen? Just now i started my pc and FF and now only the buttons i want to show are there. :D

EDIT: Hmm i might have spoken to soon. I looked at the settings in the toolbar, and after shutting down FF and restarting the shopping button was back but not the coupons button. I started IE8 to see if it hat the same problem but it does not. But to my surprise after having used IE8 and just now restarting FF....the buttons are again the way i want them to be?

[Sputnik]

@Morro
I'm not so sure about the automatic update. I would recommend you to uninstall the toolbar completely, reboot and reinstall using the new (v2.0.0.5) setup.

[Morro]

-{ Quote: "@Morro
I'm not so sure about the automatic update. I would recommend you to uninstall the toolbar completely, reboot and reinstall using the new (v2.0.0.5) setup." }-

That is the one i already hat installed since the late evening yesterday. Since i was one of the people who hat a bug Pbust PM'ed me and asked me to install the new version, and see if that solved the problem.

We pm'ed for a while and after having given him the information he asked for during that time, he said he would look in to the problem. It is now a matter of waiting. But till then i did remove the tool bar and left the Url filter installed. :)

[mew2]

i uninstalled avast because it caused problems with my notebook and switched to panda cloud because of its good reviews. I also got a free lic from cnet (thanks for it) and upgrade to pro. However, after 2 days of using, the program stopped its services. I tried to open the program but it told me to renew my subscription. What happened to this? In short i cannot open the program so i uninstalled it and install again but now using the free version. But now i got new issue: mscenter cannot detect the program which means that the program did not register itself in the mscenter? Any idea?? Thanks for the help.;)

[carat]

-{ Quote: "But now i got new issue: mscenter cannot detect the program which means that the program did not register itself in the mscenter? Any idea?? Thanks for the help.;)" }-

-{ Quote: "Solution:
1) Uninstall PCA;
2) Reboot;
3) Use the "Cloud_AV_Uninstaller.exe (http://www.cloudantivirus.com/forum/thread.jspa?threadID=51105&tstart=0)";
4) Reboot;
5) Reinstall PCA." }-

I hope Panda will fix it soon ... :-\

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "i uninstalled avast because it caused problems with my notebook and switched to panda cloud because of its good reviews. I also got a free lic from cnet (thanks for it) and upgrade to pro. However, after 2 days of using, the program stopped its services. I tried to open the program but it told me to renew my subscription." }-

The free license giveaway page is still working, so you could try a new license after you have your security center issue fixed.

[Arin]

I installed the latest (http://research.pandasecurity.com/blogs/images/_download/PandaSecurityTb_2.0.0.5.exe) toolbar v2.0.0.5. It worked fine and then I uninstalled the toolbar keeping only the antiphishing component.

On the next reboot panda2_0dn.exe did not load up. Instead the path C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Panda Security opened up automatically.

The same thing happened on the next boot as well.

I checked autostart entries and put double-quotes around C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Panda Security Toolbar Antiphishing\panda2_0dn.exe. That fixed the problem.

Now I did not face any issues with the old version of the toolbar. With the new version, this specific problem could be re-created on my machine.

Anyone else facing it when you uninstall toolbar keeping the antiphishing component?

[gazs1]

-{ Quote: "I installed the latest (http://research.pandasecurity.com/blogs/images/_download/PandaSecurityTb_2.0.0.5.exe) toolbar v2.0.0.5. It worked fine and then I uninstalled the toolbar keeping only the antiphishing component.

On the next reboot panda2_0dn.exe did not load up. Instead the path C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Panda Security opened up automatically.

The same thing happened on the next boot as well.

I checked autostart entries and put double-quotes around C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Panda Security Toolbar Antiphishing\panda2_0dn.exe. That fixed the problem.

Now I did not face any issues with the old version of the toolbar. With the new version, this specific problem could be re-created on my machine.

Anyone else facing it when you uninstall toolbar keeping the antiphishing component?" }-

i had to do the same, not a biggie really but would be a nightmare for an average user, on the bonus side the toolbar works now on the limited accounts on my box.

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Thx pbust. Would it be possible to "upgrade" this blocking rule, so it would be a bit more fine tuned around Foxit PDF Reader? If there is no whitelisting, i guess you could refine the rule a bit so it will only jump on actually malicious actions." }-
Yes that's exactly what we are doing. Now that the toolbar issue is fixed we'll create a new build and upgrade the 1.1.x users to 1.3 and then we will push out the fixed rule to everyone.

-{ Quote: "i had to do the same, not a biggie really but would be a nightmare for an average user, on the bonus side the toolbar works now on the limited accounts on my box." }-
Yes we saw that in this test build that we sent around to a few people only. Now that we know the toolbar and URL filtering works, we'll create a new build to distribute to everybody.

[Sputnik]

@pbust
Thanks! Will you post a notify once the new build is available?

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "@pbust
Thanks! Will you post a notify once the new build is available?" }-
Sure will, and thanks everyone for testing it and reporting the problems!

[Sputnik]

@pbust
I think I can speak for all when I say my pleasure. Thanks for your support on the forums and PM/e-mail and looking forward to the new build.

[fblais]

@pbust:
If someone don't use the toolbar, the new build isn't necessary to install, no?

Regards,
François

[whitedragon551]

How is the URL scanner compared to say LinkExtend? Or is it more similar to AVG's link scanner and Dr Webs Link scanner?

[Securon]

Good Scaryween Everyone ! Just wondering, I'm somewhat reluctant in running Toolbars...as a general question...is there enough too the Panda/Yahoo Toolbar to add quality and effectiveness for your Browser and Surfing needs ? I have Firefox 3.6 with WOT AND Prevx 3.0 with Safe-On-Line...both seem to provide adequate protection. Any feedback regarding Panda's Toobar...and my set-up would be as always appreciated. Sincerely...Securon

[Noob]

Running great on my brothers laptop :D
PCAV 1.3

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "If someone don't use the toolbar, the new build isn't necessary to install, no?" }-
Correct
-{ Quote: "How is the URL scanner compared to say LinkExtend? Or is it more similar to AVG's link scanner and Dr Webs Link scanner?" }-
-{ Quote: "is there enough too the Panda/Yahoo Toolbar to add quality and effectiveness for your Browser and Surfing needs ?" }-
The URL filtering that comes with the toolbar (even though it works separately from the toolbar, ie: the toolbar can be uninstalled afterwards to only keep the URL filtering) is using Panda's own malicious URL feed. From that respect it (a) works under most major browsers, not only IE and FF and (b) is complementary to other URL filtering products you might have. Unlike with AV where having 2 or more AVs working in real-time can cause conflicts and problems, with URL filtering you can have multiple products without the conflicts, while providing additional protection (what one URLscanner might miss, another might catch).

[gazs1]

just to letpeople know ive posted on the sandboxie forum about the url filter not working sandboxed and tzuk is looking into it and will post an update;D

[carat]

-{ Quote: "Solution:
1) Uninstall PCA;
2) Reboot;
3) Use the "Cloud_AV_Uninstaller.exe (http://www.cloudantivirus.com/forum/thread.jspa?threadID=51105&tstart=0)";
4) Reboot;
5) Reinstall PCA." }-

Thank you :thumb:

pbust - Your upgrader should use Cloud_AV_Uninstaller.exe to prevent the windows security center fault :)

[geko]

So lets see if I get it right.

Identity Protection doesnt work without the toolbar.
You can uninstall the toolbar, but then you lose ID protection.

Uninstalling the toolbar you still have the Malicious Web & URL Filtering feature.

Now, why does Revo Uninstaller say that the Malicious Web & URL Filtering feature, is from Visicom Media?

Visicom Media is the licensor (developer) of the toolbar.

EULA:
PRIVACY NOTICE:
BY PROCEEDING TO INSTALL THE TOOLBAR, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND ACCEPT THAT, UPON ITS INSTALLATION, THE TOOLBAR WILL MODIFY THE SETTINGS OF YOUR BROWSER CONCERNING "DNS ERROR PAGE", "ERROR 404 PAGE", "ADDRESS BAR SEARCH", "NEW TAB" AND "DEFAULT BROWSER SEARCH". FURTHERMORE, ONCE INSTALLED, THE TOOLBAR MAY COMMUNICATE CERTAIN BASIC USAGE INFORMATION TO LICENSOR and/or VISICOM MEDIA, Inc. ("VISICOM") VIA ("APPLICATIONSTAT.COM") TO HELP LICENSOR COMPILE GLOBAL STATISTICS CONCERNING USAGE OF THE TOOLBAR BY USERS (for example concerning the number of installations and unique users, the number of clicks which the Toolbar receives, the number of searches performed by users, etc.). Such statistical information will not include any personally identifiable information regarding users.

...

The Toolbar does collect the user's IP address. The purpose of collecting this data is to enable proper geographic localization. For instance, the weather feature present on the Toolbar uses this IP address to generate the current weather based on the user's current location. While the IP address is stored for backup purposes, LICENSOR does not use this information for any other purpose. Other than the IP address, no other personal identifiable information is being collected.

Why would I want any feature from a company that collects data from me?

I thought I was searching for an antivirus (security software)?

[chinook9]

-{ Quote: "just to letpeople know ive posted on the sandboxie forum about the url filter not working sandboxed and tzuk is looking into it and will post an update;D" }-

I use Sandboxie 100% and Panda did block one site for me, however, I am still using 01.01.02. My Panda has not auto-updated yet.

[gazs1]

The shopping and coupon buttons still wont remove in firefox!!, they are gone till you restart and then they are there again and im using the latest toolbar build.:o

[jason_jiang]

just a bit curious about the process PSANToManager.exe. does anyone have idea on its function? ::)

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "just a bit curious about the process PSANToManager.exe. does anyone have idea on its function? ::)" }-

I know it launches when malware removal takes place but I have seen it at other times to. Most likely maybe software updates, or maybe some heuristic analysis.