4.0 beta release date?

[Habakuck]

Hi there.

Is there any rough timetable for the v4 beta? =)

I am waiting for that for too long.... ;)
Can't wait to get into beta testing.

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

Lol, I saw the topic title from wilders front page and thought it was already available :P

[PrevxHelp]

I changed the title of this thread as it indeed was a bit too optimistic ;D

Edited to remove outdated information

[Habakuck]

O.k. thanks

[icr]

-{ Quote: "I changed the title of this thread as it indeed was a bit too optimistic ;D

We're still a couple months away from a beta release - it should be available around Jan. '11 :)" }-


Will it be available for only paid users or any user can test it. I mean to say can we test the entire software?

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "Jan. '11 :)" }-

Boo! Hiss! :)

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Will it be available for only paid users or any user can test it. I mean to say can we test the entire software?" }-

Everyone will be allowed to test it :)

-{ Quote: "Boo! Hiss! :)" }-

Unfortunately we're stuck between the legalities of waiting for patents to clear and major improvements between the agent, webservers, and database. This is the largest project we've ever undertaken - far more substantial than the shift from Prevx 2 to 3 - and trust me, I want to send this out as soon as possible ;D

Just as a bit of a teaser: our current goal is 1/10th of the background RAM usage and a full program size of 500KB :)

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "

.. our current goal is 1/10th of the background RAM usage .." }-

Doesn't that make Prevx use more pagefile in result make Prevx itself slower? Or less pagefile and RAM use, making the CPU work harder because it needs to redo things that could have been in RAM or pagefile?

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Doesn't that make Prevx use more pagefile in result make Prevx itself slower? Or less pagefile and RAM use, making the CPU work harder because it needs to redo things that could have been in RAM or pagefile?" }-

No - we aren't sacrificing any area of the system, it has simply been redesigned in such a way that it requires very little of CPU/RAM/pagefile resources. Additionally, we aren't "hiding" the memory usage by performing allocations in kernel mode like a number of AVs do currently :)

[Triple Helix]

By the size of the client it's a True Cloud Technology which is the strength of Prevx! Licking my lips already but being careful not to Drool! ;)

TH

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "No - we aren't sacrificing any area of the system, it has simply been redesigned in such a way that it requires very little of CPU/RAM/pagefile resources. Additionally, we aren't "hiding" the memory usage by performing allocations in kernel mode like a number of AVs do currently :)" }-

So you're basically having the servers farms run most of the code?

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "So you're basically having the servers farms run most of the code?" }-

The servers do currently run most of Prevx today but P4 locally actually will have far more features than P3 even though it is substantially smaller :)

[Habakuck]

Will P4 become cheaper than the current version?

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Will P4 become cheaper than the current version?" }-

I'm not sure - I'm not involved in the pricing discussions so we'll probably have to wait until closer to release. However, we will have a free period for beta testers :)

[Habakuck]

-{ Quote: "However, we will have a free period for beta testers " }- Fine.

[Fad]

Does that mean currently paid users who also beta test, will have a period during which the license is effectively useless ?

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Does that mean currently paid users who also beta test, will have a period during which the license is effectively useless ?" }-

Prevx 3 will remain in existence so the license can still be applied over it. The beta testing community will be provided test licenses for Prevx 4 but as the product is completely rewritten, it shouldn't be considered at any point that the license is being "replaced" by the beta testing license (which will have different functionality centrally as well).

[Fad]

Thanks, so just to clarify:

Presumably v4 will need a new license, so will there be a way of upgrading from an existing v3 license when the time arrives that v4 goes eventually "public" ?

There will be many people with current remaining time on their v3 licenses, so what actually happens to them ?

also...

Regarding those of us who have an existing v3 license and are willing & able to beta test v4 - will the remaining time (and particularly inferred cost) left on the duration on the existing v3 licenses become effectively "wasted" ?
as that time would be expiring daily while testing out on what would be a free grace period while beta testing v4 - which could go on for some time.

I hope that made more sense than it sounded whilst typing it.

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Thanks, so just to clarify:

Presumably v4 will need a new license, so will there be a way of upgrading from an existing v3 license when the time arrives that v4 goes eventually "public" ?" }-

This isn't finalized yet but as far as I know, a P3 license will be able to be used in P4 and the licenses will carry over. P3 also won't disappear overnight - it will probably be available for quite some time until P4 is sufficiently released and tested.


-{ Quote: "Regarding those of us who have an existing v3 license and are willing & able to beta test v4 - will the remaining time (and particularly inferred cost) left on the duration on the existing v3 licenses become effectively "wasted" ?
as that time would be expiring daily while testing out on what would be a free grace period while beta testing v4 - which could go on for some time." }-

We can certainly work on a per-case basis for this. We do not want anyone to feel cheated out of any license time - if anything, we can probably just add on the beta duration to the end of the user's license if they were using the same PC to test P4 that they had P3 protecting :)

[Habakuck]

Maybe there are some license gifts for very activ beta testers too... :)

[Fad]

Thanks Joe for the info....I just thought it might deter some people from beta testing if they thought they might lose potentially weeks or even months off their licenses.

[pabrate]

-{ Quote: "... as the product is completely rewritten ..." }-

Can't wait to see that, if you know what I mean :P

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "Maybe there are some license gifts for very activ beta testers too... :)" }-

That would certainly be nice :)

[adam993]

-{ Quote: "That would certainly be nice :)" }-
I agree :)!
I can't wait ;D

[shadek]

Joe, you mentioned Jan '11 as release date. Is that for the beta release or the sharp version release? If it's not the beta release, is there any road map as to when we can begin beta-testing?

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Joe, you mentioned Jan '11 as release date. Is that for the beta release or the sharp version release? If it's not the beta release, is there any road map as to when we can begin beta-testing?" }-

There are quite a few pieces that need to fall together (patent applications, database hardware, database development, and agent development) to actually get it to an official release. We don't anticipate too long of a beta process for the initial release but I'd suspect we'll have a beta probably around December with the live release mid-late Jan. Granted, there are quite a few parameters that we can't fully control so this may change slightly.

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "There are quite a few pieces that need to fall together (patent applications, database hardware, database development, and agent development) to actually get it to an official release. We don't anticipate too long of a beta process for the initial release but I'd suspect we'll have a beta probably around December with the live release mid-late Jan. Granted, there are quite a few parameters that we can't fully control so this may change slightly." }-

Fair enough. Hopefully not too long until the beta will commence then. I wish Prevx good luck with the remaining pieces.

[trjam]

I am not as concerned with a beta release date as I am with Prevx getting it right. Cook the steak as long as needed, I like mine well done.;D

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "I am not as concerned with a beta release date as I am with Prevx getting it right. Cook the steak as long as needed, I like mine well done.;D" }-

Best thing I heard in a long time! :thumb: But I do like my Steak Medium Rare!

TH

[CatSoftLabs]

-{ Quote: "That would certainly be nice :)" }-
Yes,that would be indeed nice to have license gifts.

[CatSoftLabs]

-{ Quote: "Fair enough. Hopefully not too long until the beta will commence then. I wish Prevx good luck with the remaining pieces." }-
Yes,hopefully they will release the beta soon,truly because I am a fan of their application,but hate paying.So this is my thing because once the public beta is,well,made public,I can test the full product and be able to clean my system of any infection,and pepole may of seen my old post,asking how i can get a free cleanup of what the Free Scan detected,and I downloaded Hitman Pro,witch it has detected my infections and removed them.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Yes,hopefully they will release the beta soon,truly because I am a fan of their application,but hate paying.So this is my thing because once the public beta is,well,made public,I can test the full product and be able to clean my system of any infection,and pepole may of seen my old post,asking how i can get a free cleanup of what the Free Scan detected,and I downloaded Hitman Pro,witch it has detected my infections and removed them." }-

That will be during the Beta stage only but after you will still have to buy a license when it goes live! And lets not get into a discussion about it again as your other thread has been closed!

TH

[pabrate]

He hates paying :D

[CatSoftLabs]

-{ Quote: "That will be during the Beta stage only but after you will still have to buy a license when it goes live! And lets not get into a discussion about it again as your other thread has been closed!

TH" }-
Nothing wrong with that! When I need to,I will use Hitman Pro and (possibly) use Prevx's Free scanner for the free cleanup of adware and to inform me if I need Hitman Pro.Once P4 goes live,but once the beta goes live,I will have a testing license,right? No one can force anyone to buy something,just a tip (you might get more customers if you made something like AVG free edition,but way better with your detections.)

[CatSoftLabs]

-{ Quote: "He hates paying :D" }-
Oh and just to tell you pabrate that is because I like to have some money left to get stuff like ANTIVIRUS or ANTIMALWARE. Anyway,I think I will enjoy this great beta! Prevx rocks!

[CatSoftLabs]

-{ Quote: "There are quite a few pieces that need to fall together (patent applications, database hardware, database development, and agent development) to actually get it to an official release. We don't anticipate too long of a beta process for the initial release but I'd suspect we'll have a beta probably around December with the live release mid-late Jan. Granted, there are quite a few parameters that we can't fully control so this may change slightly." }-
Just the time I would need to disinfect my system of anything that Prevx detects,please make this as quick as possible,If you give the machines used for building the Prevx software code a tuneup with a Utility Software like Advanced SystemCare,probably you can use that if you purchase Advanced SystemCare PRO. Or see if IObit has a buisness edition of ASC.

[Dark Star 72]

@CatSoftLabs
PrevxHelp said the "beta testing community" will be provided with test licences, I'm sure you don't meet that required qualification :dry:

-{ Quote: "The beta testing community will be provided test licenses for Prevx 4 " }-

[CatSoftLabs]

-{ Quote: "@CatSoftLabs
PrevxHelp said the "beta testing community" will be provided with test licences, I'm sure you don't meet that required qualification :dry:" }-
Well,if YOU think you know what PrevxHelp means,then,how do you become part of the "beta testing community"? if you don't know,then,ha,just what i thought.

[CloneRanger]

-{ Quote: "Originally Posted by CatSoftLabs

you might get more customers if you made something like AVG free edition,but way better with your detections." }-

Hey what an "interesting" way of looking at things :P

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "...but hate paying..." }-

Man, I can't help but despise you. Your attitude is childish as you don't realize how a regular business model works. There's already a free version of Prevx, and if you want the full features you pay for the program. Having everything available for free will not bring Prevx any more cash to pay the developers' salaries. And hence, we would never see any progress of the program.

Don't be cheap. And yeah, if you didn't notice, I'm annoyed by you.

[Scoobs72]

-{ Quote: "but once the beta goes live,I will have a testing license,right? " }-

I certainly hope not. Beta programs need committed, conscientious testers, not cheapskates who exhibit borderline spamming activity in their posts. I suspect you have already disqualified yourself from any beta program.

[mrgigabyte]

i AGREED with Scoobs TH WE PAY GOOD MONEY to have prevx and its worth every bit of it i been fellow these couple of treads and i have to say TH and Joe you guys must be getting a little piss off i know i am
i like deals like anybody else but this is getting a little out of hand i have to say and i think our other members would agreed 8)

-{ Quote: "I certainly hope not. Beta programs need committed, conscientious testers, not cheapskates who exhibit borderline spamming activity in their posts. I suspect you have already disqualified yourself from any beta program." }-

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "i AGREED with Scoobs TH WE PAY GOOD MONEY to have prevx and its worth every bit of it i been fellow these couple of treads and i have to say TH and Joe you guys must be getting a little piss off i know i am
i like deals like anybody else but this is getting a little out of hand i have to say and i think our other members would agreed 8)" }-

You've hit the nail right on the head here. We will go out of our way to compensate people who help us (I've given away many licenses to users here that have spent countless hours working with us to improve our software) but we are certainly not giving anything away to someone who is unsupportive of an actual business model. I know times are hard but times are hard for everyone. Trying to get something for free just furthers the problem... :-/

[1000db]

I can't wait to test P4 but not for anything free...I actually like the software and think PrevX has done a fantastic job so far. More than money I am not going to waste my irreplaceable time testing a product that I wouldn't even pay for. I you want free stuff try a crack site.

[TonyW]

-{ Quote: "I you want free stuff try a crack site." }-I wouldn't advise that since such sites can be a source of malware. ;)

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "I wouldn't advise that since such sites can be a source of malware. ;)" }-

Now, if you pay for the application (in this case Prevx) you want, you don't get malware. Asking for free stuff is cheap, at least that's how the swedish culture looks like, and hence, I might be a bit biased.

[1000db]

-{ Quote: "I wouldn't advise that since such sites can be a source of malware. ;)" }-

It was a lame attempt at sarcasm.

[Fajo]

I wont normally chime in on threads like this but I'm going to this once.

Prevx is a awesome product, I have used it on my Personal computers and then Deployed it as the Main Anti-Virus for the company I work for. It has been proven though and though to be a awesome product. Good detections, fast and stable platform and extremely low impact on the system over all. I have also personally ran it though Millions.... Yes I said MILLIONS of in house threats that come stomping though our door throughout the year. Prevx has had a VERY VERY VERY low miss rate and the ones that do get though are sent to Prevx and fixed within the hour.

Any time I have had a problem with Prevx (Vent Issue that Joe Knows about) It has been answered as if I was a Multi Million dollar customer, very fast response times and 1 on 1 support to get the issue resolved. One thing I can say about Prevx is they treat all there customers with respect and sales a product that reflects that.

Now the reason I bring all this up is it sickens me when I see people post "I want free stuff or I want this or that and give nothing in return for your hard work" So I want to state this for the record.

What they charge is just amazing when you add up everything you get and all the personal attention you get if you ever have a problem with the product. I have NEVER in my 10 Years in the security field found a company that holds there customers in such HIGH regard Prevx does. To them there customers are EVERYTHING and they build there product around that.

Next time you go around asking or stuff for free take a moment, And think, what would happen if it was all free. They would not be able to have the interaction with there customer base that they have now. You would have alot slower releases, More bugs, Crap support if any and really no way for them to keep the lights on at the office. People always seem to assume just because you are a company you have a unlimited amount of money to keep your self going. People need to take a step back and realize you really do GET what you PAY for.

That's all for my rant.. Just please next time stop and think before you just feel like everything in this world should be handed to you at no cost and really what kind of place this would be if that was true.

[Ibrad]

I can't wait to test the beta :D

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "I can't wait to test the beta :D" }-

Then perhaps you'll finally removed that slow and glitchy PCA which can't even quarantine properly. :p

[Ibrad]

Nah I like PCAV, I never had quarantine issues but I never have a huge collection of malware on my PC. Besides my PrevX key is for my parents. I forgot to add in my last post good luck to the PrevX team as they prepare to get the beta.

[nessy90]

-{ Quote: "Man, I can't help but despise you. Your attitude is childish as you don't realize how a regular business model works. There's already a free version of Prevx, and if you want the full features you pay for the program. Having everything available for free will not bring Prevx any more cash to pay the developers' salaries. And hence, we would never see any progress of the program.

Don't be cheap. And yeah, if you didn't notice, I'm annoyed by you." }-

I think the insect is called a leech.

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "I think the insect is called a leech." }-

Why thank you! That's the word I was looking for.

[shadek]

I'm just curious as I'm very interested in beta-testing Prevx 4.0 and test it heavily against my library of malware, Steam-games and also toy around with it using different applications...

Would it be possible to reveal the major improvements made in Prevx 4.0 compared to 3.0 so we get a sneak peek of what to expect any time soon? :)

[Rivalen]

Probably I got an uncertain feeling from this thread for no good reason at all.

As a holder of a paid license for Prevx 3 and valid for the next 24 months I am certain that this license will be valid for all development of this product without any extra charge wether the Prevx product is called 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 during my 24 month license!?

Please confirm...

Best Regards

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "Probably I got an uncertain feeling from this thread for no good reason at all.

As a holder of a paid license for Prevx 3 and valid for the next 24 months I am certain that this license will be valid for all development of this product without any extra charge wether the Prevx product is called 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 during my 24 month license!?

Please confirm...

Best Regards" }-

What are you on about? Of course the license will be valid for the time you paid for. :) I'm just curious of what major news Prevx 4 will bring!

[Rivalen]

-{ Quote: "What are you on about? Of course the license will be valid for the time you paid for. :) I'm just curious of what major news Prevx 4 will bring!" }-

Not "on about" much and at least not directed towards anything you have written.

Its this entry in this thread I never thought got a clear answer:

"Presumably v4 will need a new license, so will there be a way of upgrading from an existing v3 license when the time arrives that v4 goes eventually "public" ?

There will be many people with current remaining time on their v3 licenses, so what actually happens to them ?"

So if my simple question gets that simple and satisfactory answer I am looking for and feels is the only correct answer - as obviosly you also feel is the only correct answer - I will not be "on" about anything.

edit: Will visit your home town (and my "almost" home town) tomorrow - always a great pleasure!

Best Regards

[PrevxHelp]

Prevx 4 will be able to use Prevx 3 licenses so existing users will be able to use it without a problem :)

-{ Quote: " I'm just curious as I'm very interested in beta-testing Prevx 4.0 and test it heavily against my library of malware, Steam-games and also toy around with it using different applications...

Would it be possible to reveal the major improvements made in Prevx 4.0 compared to 3.0 so we get a sneak peek of what to expect any time soon? " }-

Unfortunately we're still remaining very, very tight lipped about the feature set of Prevx 4 ;D The most I can say at this point is that it is not a minor update - this is a major overhaul and massively improved approach over anything that Prevx or other vendors have developed previously :)

[Triple Helix]

They say Patience is a virtue :blink:

TH

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "Prevx 4 will be able to use Prevx 3 licenses so existing users will be able to use it without a problem :)



Unfortunately we're still remaining very, very tight lipped about the feature set of Prevx 4 ;D The most I can say at this point is that it is not a minor update - this is a major overhaul and massively improved approach over anything that Prevx or other vendors have developed previously :)" }-

Alright, alright! But it's so damn hard to wait for a great update when you love a program as much as I do. :)

[jmonge]

cant wait;)

[PatG]

-{ Quote: "cant wait;)" }-

X 2! And that's not an algebra problem! ;D

[chrismani]

Will there be any change in the Free version?

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "Will there be any change in the Free version?" }-

A valid question. I think we'll see the same deal as there's currently with Prevx 3. You get detection but will have to pay for removal and prevention, just as it should be IMO.

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "A valid question. I think we'll see the same deal as there's currently with Prevx 3. You get detection but will have to pay for removal and prevention, just as it should be IMO." }-

Yes, I believe this is what it will be (as we haven't discussed anything different :)).

We've been working on a few new features within our cloud recently which I know the forum members here will appreciate :) I'm sworn to silence in the meantime but am growing very excited for them ;D

[hemingway60]

Actually, I was hoping that prevx offers a full or atleast a semi functional product with a trial period like most companies. For example:
1. A fully functional product with like 15 days (atleast 3 days) for the user to test. Atleast with this approach, users can actually get an idea of what the product has to offer. By restricting users from this, they'll feel that the product is a rip-off since they're not getting the chance to test which may refer (according to most users) as a poor product whose aim is to get money.

I hope prevx looks in to my suggestion.

Thanks.

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "Actually, I was hoping that prevx offers a full or atleast a semi functional product with a trial period like most companies. For example:
1. A fully functional product with like 15 days (atleast 3 days) for the user to test. Atleast with this approach, users can actually get an idea of what the product has to offer. By restricting users from this, they'll feel that the product is a rip-off since they're not getting the chance to test which may refer (according to most users) as a poor product whose aim is to get money.

I hope prevx looks in to my suggestion.

Thanks." }-

Then again, any user is free to run Prevx in detection mode, without any time-bomb.

So, while with others users can run such apps in 15-day or 30-day trial mode, which some offer ability to remove threats and others not, after this period the applications will stop functioning. With Prevx, users can always have it running, because it will never expire. So, users can always have a second opinion running real-time, which won't remove pretty much most of the threats (it removes a few), but will at least alert them.

And, this strategy is actually better than 15-day or 30-day trials, because how will most users be able to test their antimalware apps? They won't, anyway. At least, along the ride, if Prevx detects something that their other apps don't, then they can always upgrade to the paid version.

Just my two cents.

[Boyfriend]

I also agree with m00nbl00d :)

Prevx Free (detection mode only) is one of the best ways to see missed threats from user AV. Users can upgrade to paid version to remove detection. It is much better approach for Prevx (get hands on new samples via community, early detection and protection) and users (see missed/latest threats).

[pegas]

@ Boyfriend
@ m00nbl00d

I second you :thumb:

[m00nbl00d]

-Edit-

I forgot to mention something else. ;)

What I can see that could be done is to provide the full power of Prevx, say for 30-days, and then after this period revert Prevx back to the detection mode.

Xmas gift? lol

[hemingway60]

-{ Quote: "-Edit-

I forgot to mention something else. ;)

What I can see that could be done is to provide the full power of Prevx, say for 30-days, and then after this period revert Prevx back to the detection mode.

Xmas gift? lol" }-

Yeah, that was what I meant too. They offer users a fully functional product which reverts back to detection mode after the trial is over.

[shadek]

What I know so far of what's been hinted by Prevx staff here at Wilders about version 4:

1) Will have offline protection
2) Will be aproximately 1/10 of the size it is today.
3) Will be an anti-keylogger in other applications than the browser.
4) Will probably be more informative when malware is encountered.
5) Will continue to be a stand-alone product.

What else can we confirm here? ;)

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "What I know so far of what's been hinted by Prevx staff here at Wilders about version 4:

1) Will have offline protection
2) Will be aproximately 1/10 of the size it is today.
3) Will be an anti-keylogger in other applications than the browser.
4) Will probably be more informative when malware is encountered.
5) Will continue to be a stand-alone product.

What else can we confirm here? ;)" }-

#2 is half the size not 1/10 ;) and the rest who knows?

TH

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "#2 is half the size not 1/10 ;) and the rest who knows?
" }-

Our goal is 1/2 the file size and 1/10th the memory usage :)

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Our goal is 1/2 the file size and 1/10th the memory usage :)" }-

More info please you tease :P

TH ;)

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "Our goal is 1/2 the file size and 1/10th the memory usage :)" }-

Alright! Seems like I got my memory wrong there! :) It was 1/10th memory usage. :)

Now guys, what else can we confirm/speculate in? Let's raise the hype a little bit. :D

[Dark Star 72]

-{ Quote: "Now guys, what else can we confirm/speculate in? Let's raise the hype a little bit. :D" }-
Sandboxing and Virtualisation ;) :shifty:

[pabrate]

What about release date ?
All that talk for months abot this and that in new 4.0 is not cool :)

Cmon Prevx , ship that beta already :p

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "Sandboxing and Virtualisation ;) :shifty:" }-

Sandboxing for non-whitelisted files in the cloud would be legendary. That being said, both sandboxing and virtual mode are speculations and haven't been hinted by any official staff. :)

[Ashanta]

Hi everybody,

I'd like to test Prevx 4 to keep my computer safe from malwares.

Who can tell me how can I test this new beta version ? Any links ?


Thanks ! ;)

[Rivalen]

-{ Quote: "Sandboxing for non-whitelisted files in the cloud would be legendary. That being said, both sandboxing and virtual mode are speculations and haven't been hinted by any official staff. :)" }-
That sounds safe. Also interesting is how they can increase offline protection with such a small footprint - everything new that enters the PC during offline is sandboxed and/or virtualized until online again and cloudcontrolled? If so I could skip Antivir. But can such things be done with that small a footprint? I have no idea I am just an nonsavvy amateur.

Best Regards

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "Hi everybody,

I'd like to test Prevx 4 to keep my computer safe from malwares.

Who can tell me how can I test this new beta version ? Any links ?


Thanks ! ;)" }-

You cannot, it is not released yet, and release date is also not announced. I think an estimated guess from Prevx was Q1 2011.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Sandboxing and Virtualisation ;) :shifty:" }-

Being a 500KB app what do you think? I think that most of the upgrades to V4 will be in the Cloud on the severs with half the size of the program and 1/10 of the already low memory usage! Like I said I'm just drooling to give it a go in 2011! ;D

TH

[Dark Star 72]

-{ Quote: "Being a 500KB app what do you think? I think that most of the upgrades to V4 will be in the Cloud on the severs with half the size of the program and 1/10 of the already low memory usage! Like I said I'm just drooling to give it a go in 2011! ;D

TH" }-
We'll see ;) :-X

[m00nbl00d]

I know that version 4 will provide an easier ground for translation, but I'm wondering how will that be actually done? Is the user who may have the option to translate, and keep the translation for him/herself, or this translation would be sent to Prevx and it would then be applied to Prevx 4?

I ask, because, whenever Prevx 4 becomes close to what it will be (all the text done), it would be nice to put hands on the translation, and have it translated when it first comes out. ;D

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "I know that version 4 will provide an easier ground for translation, but I'm wondering how will that be actually done? Is the user who may have the option to translate, and keep the translation for him/herself, or this translation would be sent to Prevx and it would then be applied to Prevx 4?

I ask, because, whenever Prevx 4 becomes close to what it will be (all the text done), it would be nice to put hands on the translation, and have it translated when it first comes out. ;D" }-

We're still holding all translations internally. We'll possibly have a feature for the user to configure a local translation file but only for translation testing. The GUI itself is much easier to work with for foreign languages but we still want to hold all translations centrally for quality assurance purposes :)

[Defenestration]

If a sandboxing feature is present, I hope my previous suggestion of allowing the sandbox to be stored at a custom location (eg. RAMDisk), or at least give the option to have the sandbox in RAM (ie. so no contents are stored on the hard disk).

[PrevxHelp]

The "sandbox" functionality is not like a conventional sandbox (i.e. Sandboxie). I'll elaborate more when we get closer to a beta but it is primarily used for malware analysis instead of actually using the software that's being "sandboxed" :)

[vojta]

So the files will be executed in a virtual enviroment to check their behavior?.

[Matthijs5nl]

-{ Quote: "The "sandbox" functionality is not like a conventional sandbox (i.e. Sandboxie). I'll elaborate more when we get closer to a beta but it is primarily used for malware analysis instead of actually using the software that's being "sandboxed" :)" }-
What would be the difference with for example the way ESET handles advanced heuristics (except for ESET checks it in the safe environment with heuristics and Prevx by behavior)?

[Boyfriend]

Let me guess a few things:
- File checksum algorithm (PX5) might be further optimized to calculate checksum in minimum time using minimum resources.
- In-The-Wild (ITW) malware signatures might be cached on user system to protect in offline mode.
- Sandbox like Norman sandbox or behavior analysis/blocker like in Panda Cloud Antivirus might be there for better analysis of suspicious files (via cloud) on end user system.
- Autorun blocker/USB vaccine might be there.
- List of suspicious files might be saved in offline mode for later analysis when system connects with internet.
- Further optimizations and better classification/cleaning of threats will be on Prevx/Webroot servers.

[Ashanta]

Prevx,

Any plan to build a standalone program ?

I mean, what's happening if we get infected by malware which close our Internet connection?

By the way, if you need help for translation I can give you a hand for french and maybe spanish, let me know.

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "Prevx,

Any plan to build a standalone program ?

I mean, what's happening if we get infected by malware which close our Internet connection?

By the way, if you need help for translation I can give you a hand for french and maybe spanish, let me know." }-

Prevx 4 will provide offline protection to some extent. We'll see in a month or three when the official beta goes live how it works out!

[trjam]

back to Prevx, Dr Webs real time protection is lacking.

[Ashanta]

-{ Quote: "Prevx 4 will provide offline protection to some extent. We'll see in a month or three when the official beta goes live how it works out!" }-

Excellent new, Shadek !

[jmonge]

some thing good is coming up soon for sure:)

[WilliamMary]

How about support MacOS X platform anyway ?

[SweX]

-{ Quote: "How about support MacOS X platform anyway ?" }-

The Mac OS X version is around the corner, but Prevx don't like to talk about it though;)

[JCRUYFF]

Plz Add New Features like a Kaspersky Application Control or H.I.P.S

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "Plz Add New Features like a Kaspersky Application Control or H.I.P.S" }-

That would ruin the warm and clean feelings by just having Prevx silently running in the background. Sandboxing would be a lot better - and that's something we'll see in a very basic form in Prevx 4.

[jmonge]

maybe registry protection;)

[Kernelwars]

Application control or a light weight HIPS will be really helpful IMO

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Application control or a light weight HIPS will be really helpful IMO" }-

Why only "or"... :shifty:

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Why only "or"... :shifty:" }-

Your a real nasty tease aren't you! :P

TH

[Cutting_Edgetech]

Yes, registry protection, and light weight HIPS like 2.0 had would be great. If not registry protection with behavior blocker would be great as well.

[Kernelwars]

-{ Quote: "Why only "or"... :shifty:" }-
ah that would be awesome..:argh:

[JCRUYFF]

add a Light HIPS for Program with rules like Kaspersky Application Control ^^

HIPS based on community or a WhiteList ^^

[iFront]

Hello There,
I am new here but a long time lurker and a reader,nevertheless.;)

-{ Quote: "Sandboxing for non-whitelisted files in the cloud would be legendary. That being said, both sandboxing and virtual mode are speculations and haven't been hinted by any official staff. :)" }-

I feel this could be given a thought by Prevx developers since Prevx isn't compatible with Sandboxie.:shifty:

[pabrate]

Put a firewall in there :)

[m00nbl00d]

I just hope that it won't be nothing too hard for "normal" people to follow, like my relatives. ;)

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "Put a firewall in there :)" }-

Putting a firewall in it would turn it into a 'Webroot'-product (read security suite). I really don't like that idea.

[iFront]

-{ Quote: "Putting a firewall in it would turn it into a 'Webroot'-product (read security suite). I really don't like that idea." }-

I agree.

[Triple Helix]

We have been told 500kb download for the Client and 1/10 of the background RAM usage so it will be very light and don't think there will be room for a firewall! ;) http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1765163&postcount=7

TH :thumb:

[pabrate]

I understand all that about small size and small memory usage , but there is always a room for a separate product , which includes main Prevx module plus other features. Call it security suite or whatever you want :)

I mean, I hear here that sandbox , virtualization, HIPS ...... is going to be included in 4.0 , so I thought why not firewall :)

[JCRUYFF]

i don´t care about memory i have 3GB plz optimize CPU Usage :))

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "i don´t care about memory i have 3GB plz optimize CPU Usage :))" }-

We care about both and are dramatically reducing the load of each :)

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "I understand all that about small size and small memory usage , but there is always a room for a separate product , which includes main Prevx module plus other features. Call it security suite or whatever you want :)

I mean, I hear here that sandbox , virtualization, HIPS ...... is going to be included in 4.0 , so I thought why not firewall :)" }-

But to fit sandboxing, virtualization, HIPS or what ever they come up with will be cloud side I'm assuming as there isn't much room in the installer but what ever they come with will be very interesting I'm sure! And for a firewall that will be up-to Webroot and who knows what they have in store for Prevx in the future lets all hope they keep it light and good and nasty on malware? ;D

TH

[Kernelwars]

If I remember correctly webroot's window washer is pretty good.. If prevx 4 gets a lil bit of washing module would be appreciated..JK:argh:

[vojta]

About the firewall, something to complement Window's one would be fine for me.

[Mr.PC]

After reading previous posts/suggestions,
I am eager to see what will finally be included in v4.0...:-\

[jmonge]

when is it ready for?

[pabrate]

Cmon Joe , give us the preliminary release date :)

[TonyW]

More importantly, have the patents been approved?

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Cmon Joe , give us the preliminary release date :)" }-

I can't give a date yet but I will be able to do so soon :)

-{ Quote: "More importantly, have the patents been approved?" }-

We won't know about approval for quite some time but they have to at least be filed before the product is released.

[trjam]

Ooooooo, love the new tray icon. lol:thumb:

[Ibrad]

How did you get access to v4? (Well I guess if I had to bet any Wilders member would have access to pre-betas and devs I would have to place you down on the top of the list :P )

Quick question to the PrevX team, will non key members be able to test the beta? Will you provide beta keys?

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "How did you get access to v4? (Well I guess if I had to bet any Wilders member would have access to pre-betas and devs I would have to place you down on the top of the list :P )

Quick question to the PrevX team, will non key members be able to test the beta? Will you provide beta keys?" }-

He doesn't have access to v4 yet, no one does :P I'll let everyone know once its ready :)

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "He doesn't have access to v4 yet, no one does :P I'll let everyone know once its ready :)" }-


Yeah right Joe, whatever you say, whatever you say.8)

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "He doesn't have access to v4 yet, no one does :P I'll let everyone know once its ready :)" }-

Just hope You have access to Webroot's Prevx v4 Joe? :o

TH :D

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "More importantly, have the patents been approved?" }-
Something just dawned on me. You dont need patent approval to proceed and release a new product. How many times have you seen on a product patent pending. So not really sure why Prevx would say this is a hold up. It might be, but the longer it takes, the more I worry it aint happening.

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Something just dawned on me. You dont need patent approval to proceed and release a new product. How many times have you seen on a product patent pending. So not really sure why Prevx would say this is a hold up. It might be, but the longer it takes, the more I worry it aint happening." }-

I've already clarified this: we have to apply for the patents before it is released, not have them granted (which will likely take several years).

[pabrate]

Just release the damned thing already :p

[treehouse786]

i have been reading these forums everyday for the past 5 years but i rarely take part in conversations, i just want to say that prevx is a beauty of a program and i am proud that it is developed in my home country.

p.s. the level of anticipation i have for prevx 4 is the same level as when i was waiting to have sex for the second time..

[pegas]

-{ Quote: "I've already clarified this: we have to apply for the patents before it is released, not have them granted (which will likely take several years)." }-
Just to support Joe's info. Patent granting is a complex and lengthy process. It begins with patent application which is subject to preliminary survey that usually lasts 18 months. After that period the responsible patent office publicly announce the official patent application with a status "patent pending". Between this and patent granting can lapse many years.

[EASTER]

-{ Quote: "Prevx,

Any plan to build a standalone program ?

I mean, what's happening if we get infected by malware which close our Internet connection?

By the way, if you need help for translation I can give you a hand for french and maybe spanish, let me know." }-


After all these many years studying this exact possibility, someone besides myself finally sees clearly the inevitable liklihood of what could happen once the internet connnection goes down, be it malicious, deliberate, malfunction, etc.

To be this is always been a critical problem.


A standalone alternative is fully equipped and can meet the emergency should one arise in this manner.

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

It would be nice if Prevx 4's SafeOnline could also protect the numpad digits, as it is much faster than using the keys above the alfabet keys when entering multiple or long codes/dates/licenses etc.

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "It would be nice if Prevx 4's SafeOnline could also protect the numpad digits, as it is much faster than using the keys above the alfabet keys when entering multiple or long codes/dates/licenses etc." }-

It does :)

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "It does :)" }-

Joe any word on if they fixed the issue between Vent and Prevx in 4.0 ? If not I would love to get this fixed as it is a pain ~ Snipped as per TOS (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/faq.php?faq=wilders_tos#faq_wilders_tos_1) ~ to talk on vent when in a IE or Firefox Window. =p

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "It does :)" }-
Nice :)

[iNsuRRecTioN]

Hi there,

I know what Prevx4 is, a hybrid of Comodo Firewall+Antivirus and uTorrent file sharing software.. :D

The great recent developments of Comodo Firewall tech, like sandboxing and virtualization tech, combined with the small filesize and few resource and ram usage of uTorrent.. :shifty:

regards,

iNsuRRecTiON

[The Hammer]

-{ Quote: "Hi there,

I know what Prevx4 is, a hybrid of Comodo Firewall+Antivirus and uTorrent file sharing software.. :D

The great recent developments of Comodo Firewall tech, like sandboxing and virtualization tech, combined with the small filesize and few resource and ram usage of uTorrent.. :shifty:

regards,

iNsuRRecTiON" }-
Your a little lost there buddy.::)

[iNsuRRecTioN]

You think so? ;D

[jmonge]

is prevx including a firewall?

[The_ChamP]

it better be out befor this month ends....everyone waited for too loong now

[Triple Helix]

It will be out when it is ready, I don't want them to rush it and have all kinds of problems just be patient! ;)

TH

[pegas]

-{ Quote: "It will be out when it is ready, I don't want them to rush it and have all kinds of problems just be patient! ;)

TH" }-
You surely are right TH and I fully share your view ;)

However, every development regardless a product follows a development plan which contains milestones including their ETA. I guess such a plan does exist in Prevx LTD. and everybody involved does do its maximum to keep it because the plan is a basis for market introduction, selling scheme etc. This plan also usually counts with patent proceedings, if applicable, as Joe had hinted here several times. Therefore I do believe that Prevx has more accurate schedule for Prevx v4 introduction (from alpha phase over beta phase up to live official release) than they are willing to give us here on the forum. Anyhow, I am not complaining just poking a bit :P ;D

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "You surely are right TH and I fully share your view ;)

However, every development regardless a product follows a development plan which contains milestones including their ETA. I guess such a plan does exist in Prevx LTD. and everybody involved does do its maximum to keep it because the plan is a basis for market introduction, selling scheme etc. This plan also usually counts with patent proceedings, if applicable, as Joe had hinted here several times. Therefore I do believe that Prevx has more accurate schedule for Prevx v4 introduction (from alpha phase over beta phase up to live official release) than they are willing to give us here on the forum. Anyhow, I am not complaining just poking a bit :P ;D" }-

I know pegas! Joe will update us as soon as he can!

-{ Quote: "Prevx 4 will be able to use Prevx 3 licenses so existing users will be able to use it without a problem :)
Unfortunately we're still remaining very, very tight lipped about the feature set of Prevx 4 ;D The most I can say at this point is that it is not a minor update - this is a major overhaul and massively improved approach over anything that Prevx or other vendors have developed previously :)" }-

TH ;)

[TonyW]

-{ Quote: "Therefore I do believe that Prevx has more accurate schedule for Prevx v4 introduction (from alpha phase over beta phase up to live official release) than they are willing to give us here on the forum. " }-This is why I suggested in another thread that details of such a brand new release should perhaps only be made when it's actually ready to test or use in its final form. All this speculation just creates extra work for Joe and the moderators.

[pegas]

-{ Quote: "This is why I suggested in another thread that details of such a brand new release should perhaps only be made when it's actually ready to test or use in its final form. All this speculation just creates extra work for Joe and the moderators." }-
Speculations? Did you feel I was speculating? Sry you are wrong then. I just laid down pure facts as we also do some research and development and I know how it goes, nothing more nothing less ;)

[TonyW]

-{ Quote: "Speculations? Did you feel I was speculating?" }-You weren't speculating, and I didn't mean you specifically. :) What I was trying to say is threads like this would not have occurred if no mention of version 4 had been made till the point it was actually ready for release in beta form at least. (See my post here (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1809977&postcount=267) and Joe's reply (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1809978&postcount=268) that follows it.) I was merely suggesting that if we get to v5 for Joe to only announce it when it is actually ready to be tested, and thinking in hindsight, that is what probably should have happened here. As it is, some people are anxiously waiting for v4 as earlier reports of a December beta release whetted some user's appetites.

[pegas]

-{ Quote: "You weren't speculating, and I didn't mean you specifically. :) What I was trying to say is threads like this would not have occurred if no mention of version 4 had been made till the point it was actually ready for release in beta form at least. (See my post here (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1809977&postcount=267) and Joe's reply (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1809978&postcount=268) that follows it.) I was merely suggesting that if we get to v5 for Joe to only announce it when it is actually ready to be tested, and thinking in hindsight, that is what probably should have happened here. As it is, some people are anxiously waiting for v4 as earlier reports of a December beta release whetted some user's appetites." }-
OK TonyW understood, very well said :thumb: sry my mismatch :)

[tipo]

it`s jan 19th and no beta yet.... :(

[pegas]

-{ Quote: "it`s jan 19th and no beta yet.... :(" }-
Yes and providing that you have read a few latest posts above you wouldn't complain ;)

[lordraiden]

Anything yet?

Probably has been already asked but please if somebody can answer this questions:
SafeOnline Free will be also updated to v4?
There will be any new feature in SafeOnline Free or will be like now but better?

I guess there nothing yet about the new features?...

The release date was 11 Jan, there is any other date now?

Thanks in advance

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "The release date was 11 Jan, there is any other date now?" }-

It was not - we are still in the internal testing phase but a public version is coming soon. I will keep everyone here updated as soon as we're ready :)

[pabrate]

-{ Quote: "It was not - we are still in the internal testing phase but a public version is coming soon. I will keep everyone here updated as soon as we're ready :)" }-

Is that soon or very soon ? :P

[m00nbl00d]

@ PrevxHelp

May I send you a PM regarding a concern I'm having regarding something I came across with a few days ago, so that your malware research team can take a look at it? At least, one other tool feared to scan what I found... fearing attacks to their servers. ;D

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "@ PrevxHelp

May I send you a PM regarding a concern I'm having regarding something I came across with a few days ago, so that your malware research team can take a look at it? At least, one other tool feared to scan what I found... fearing attacks to their servers. ;D" }-

Sure :) We encourage attacks to our servers as if we can't handle something, we fix it so that we can ;)

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "Sure :) We encourage attacks to our servers as if we can't handle something, we fix it so that we can ;)" }-

That's among one of the things I like, Joe. You actually encourage people to attack the software/servers. I remember the fellow creating a hack tool to terminate the Prevx protection; he did provide your team with great knowledge of how to improve the protection of Prevx... for free!

I am looking foward to the beta release of Prevx 4 so I can finally run it on my VMs and on my desktop! I'm really going to do my best to put Prevx in a bad position when testing it so you can improve it further! Rest assured, I am going to be a pain in the back!

Gabriel

[jmonge]

me too gabriel:thumb:

[Triple Helix]

WoW it's quiet in here :lurking:

TH

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "WoW it's quiet in here :lurking:

TH" }-

The quiet before the storm :shifty:

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "The quiet before the storm :shifty:" }-

You stole what I was going to say :P

Anyway it may be silent but I check daily for the beta announcement :shifty:

[m00nbl00d]

I'm not really sure if anyone has mentioned before, but this time, I know I didn't. ;D

This may even, if taken under consideration, delay the introduction of the first beta version. ;D (Joke aside, seriously, it may! ;D)

I'm wondering what you guys think of a feature, off by default (with usability in mind) that could allow the user to prevent the web browser from downloading anything? Not only the parent process, but also preventing any child process from initiating any download?

Bring it on folks. ;D

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "I'm not really sure if anyone has mentioned before, but this time, I know I didn't. ;D

This may even, if taken under consideration, delay the introduction of the first beta version. ;D (Joke aside, seriously, it may! ;D)

I'm wondering what you guys think of a feature, off by default (with usability in mind) that could allow the user to prevent the web browser from downloading anything? Not only the parent process, but also preventing any child process from initiating any download?

Bring it on folks. ;D" }-

I'm not sure that's 100% foolproof on x64 systems.

Joe said something about about a sandbox 'light' (not his exact words as he was merely touching the subject in a previous post in this thread) in Prevx 4 but we cannot grasp how it'll work. Seeing as Sandboxie offers a similar feature as you suggest m00nbl00d, I suppose it is doable. Any road, we will be seeing a beta version within a month or two. :)

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "I'm not sure that's 100% foolproof on x64 systems." }-

I wouldn't underestimate our advances in x64 protection ;)

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "[...]Seeing as Sandboxie offers a similar feature as you suggest m00nbl00d[...]" }-

AFAIK, with Sandboxie it's possible to restrict what can start/run and access the Internet, but you can download anything just fine.

What I meant is, as an example:

Chromium process is chrome.exe. This is the parent process. Then there's more chrome.exes. These are the children processes. Anything that the main chrome.exe process starts is its child, be it other chrome.exes or other processes.

I was talking about a feature allowing the user to prevent parent (chrome.exe) and children (chrome.exe/other process) from initiating transferences.

AFAIK, with Sandboxie such is not possible ??? (I use it, so... unless I missed it all this time, there's nothing similar in Sandboxie.) (Anyway, I do not wish to hijack this thread with Sandboxie. ;D If you know that such similar feature exists, you could PM me mentioning it. I'd love to know about it, for sure. ;) Or, what you had in mind, was what I had just referenced about start/run and Internet access permission/deny?)

:)

[denis]

2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_(film)

[lordraiden]

All this is a joke and there will not be Prevx 4, right? :shifty:

Just kidding ;D

[pabrate]

-{ Quote: "All this is a joke and there will not be Prevx 4, right? :shifty:

Just kidding ;D" }-

Of course it's a joke, even screen-shot of the GUI is hush-hush ;D

IMHO, first alpha will be released in late November 2011.
Final product will be available, like denis said (2012), in early-mid 2012 , Q2 probably, mid stage of Q2 :)

You know, all this with v4 is a mask for some questions / issues.
If someone has some problems, answer is "That's solved in v4" :D

You just have to wait, that's all :P

Show must go on, stay tuned :argh:

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Of course it's a joke, even screen-shot of the GUI is hush-hush ;D

IMHO, first alpha will be released in late November 2011.
Final product will be available, like denis said (2012), in early-mid 2012 , Q2 probably, mid stage of Q2 :)

You know, all this with v4 is a mask for some questions / issues.
If someone has some problems, answer is "That's solved in v4" :D

You just have to wait, that's all :P

Show must go on, stay tuned :argh:" }-

Well, we are going to really beat our release date then ;)

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "Well, we are going to really beat our release date then ;)" }-
Can you not even say in which quarter the beta or final is planned?

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Can you not even say in which quarter the beta or final is planned?" }-

I will be able to give out further details very soon :)

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "I will be able to give out further details very soon :)" }-
Great :)

[Kernelwars]

-{ Quote: "I will be able to give out further details very soon :)" }-
gr8 news:thumb:

[smith2006]

-{ Quote: "I will be able to give out further details very soon :)" }-

Good to hear. :o

[shadek]

Joe, am I correct if I suggest Prevx and Webroot (the mother company) are synchronizing their beta releases to some extent as both parties have some technology from each? The question is just out of curiosity and it just hit me it might be the scenario.

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Joe, am I correct if I suggest Prevx and Webroot (the mother company) are synchronizing their beta releases to some extent as both parties have some technology from each? The question is just out of curiosity and it just hit me it might be the scenario." }-

That isn't the case with Prevx 4 at the moment but you will likely begin to see some overlap in the near future :)

[trjam]

Based on the current atmosphere of software being released, I would say it is about time for Prevx to cut this puppy loose.:)

[pabrate]

-{ Quote: "Based on the current atmosphere of software being released, I would say it is about time for Prevx to cut this puppy loose.:)" }-

They lose more and more customers every day by prolonging this agony.
Simply because new products are being released / updated every day and people do like them updates :)

IMO Prevx v4 is not going to be released soon, in summer time maybe, but I bet somewhere between October-December.

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "[...]
Simply because new products are being released / updated every day and people do like them updates :)[...]" }-

Until some serious crap happens like what happened with one other security vendor that brought to release a seriously malfunctioning piece of code, which in turn made the lives of many of their users a living hell having their systems running again.

Those users did complain about such security vendor bringing the application to release too soon. The application came out in late 2010, and by now I know lots of people who still have not upgraded. I guess they do not regret it, unlike those who rushed into upgrading.

People do like new and improved software, but they do also like it to work properly.

[TonyW]

-{ Quote: "People do like new and improved software, but they do also like it to work properly." }-And this is what the guys at Prevx are doing with their internal testing: making sure it works before releasing a beta. It will be, after all, a completely different version to what we have been used to.

[Vikorr]

-{ Quote: "They lose more and more customers every day by prolonging this agony." }-
Really? The very vast majority of people I know just want their security software to stop infections. I would have said only techy types that love shiny new things to play with would describe the wait as 'agony'.

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "And this is what the guys at Prevx are doing with their internal testing: making sure it works before releasing a beta. It will be, after all, a completely different version to what we have been used to." }-

:thumb: Exactly. While I am not allowed to release all of the details yet, I can say that the beta will be coming very soon, but we are waiting until we are highly confident in it. There is no need to rush it out as Prevx 3 is working well in the "wild" and because Prevx 4 is a complete rewrite + redesign of every element of Prevx, we are taking every means possible to make the transition seamless and while this may mean that the technical users here have to wait a bit, it is indeed the best decision for the majority of our customers :)

[PatG]

Maybe this has been asked before, if so, sorry I missed it. I have 21 days left on my subscription. What will happen if I purchase a new license, say 25 days from now. Will v3 automatically upgrade to v4 if v4 comes out 40 days from the new purchase? Please explain this situation.

[pegas]

-{ Quote: "Maybe this has been asked before, if so, sorry I missed it. I have 21 days left on my subscription. What will happen if I purchase a new license, say 25 days from now. Will v3 automatically upgrade to v4 if v4 comes out 40 days from the new purchase? Please explain this situation." }-
Maybe following posts could serve you
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1769304&postcount=19
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1783480&postcount=58

[Longboard]

@Prevx Help
'lo Joe ;)
Ok so, getting closer to release time ....cool
( pleeez stop all the when when when when posts ::) , it'll be here when ;) )

Re the license q&a here:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1823103&postcount=186

;D Umm: how about updating V2 > V3 > V4 heh...:lurking:

Have 254 days left on V2 :o
( such a good great little tool :) )

And btw Joe....
I have had 2 "undetermined" apps detected in V2 for a Lllooonnngg time despite several attempts to get them officially cleared...is V2 still 'active' ??

Specifically:

Find Hidden Service from WinEggDrop...an older cmd line ARK tool
http://www.prevx.com/filenames/2853105517695754265-X1/PRTCT.EXE.html
Realistically..this tool is of ..limited relevance... just interests me : the ins and out of "detecting" malware.

AND

ActiveXHelper;
( as often the case when Nir Sofer's tools are involved...:dry: )
AXHELPER.EXE: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/axhelper.html
Also perhaps a tool of ..less than common knowledge... , but interesting to poke around with.
http://www.prevx.com/filenames/112637665257921151-X1/ACTIVEXHELPER.EXE.html

PrevX3.xx does not detect or warn re either of these tools on plain scan.
V3 also does not detect or warn when either of the tools are run.
What does it all mean ??

I can send hashes..
The detection of any/all N.Sofers tools seems to be on the basis of packers or LOL potential for malware ??

regards

PS...almost forgot..have still got a free V3 license from the last Wilders prize g-away: still good to go ??

[PatG]

-{ Quote: "Maybe following posts could serve you
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1769304&postcount=19
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1783480&postcount=58" }-

Yes pegas it did help, especially the 1st post. Thanks! :thumb:

[Rivalen]

-{ Quote: "Until some serious crap happens like what happened with one other security vendor that brought to release a seriously malfunctioning piece of code, which in turn made the lives of many of their users a living hell having their systems running again.

Those users did complain about such security vendor bringing the application to release too soon. The application came out in late 2010, and by now I know lots of people who still have not upgraded. I guess they do not regret it, unlike those who rushed into upgrading.

People do like new and improved software, but they do also like it to work properly." }-
I totally agree. This AV I am thinking about has cost our company lots of money when introducing a defect update.

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "I totally agree. This AV I am thinking about has cost our company lots of money when introducing a defect update." }-
Lol, CrapAfee?

[TonyW]

-{ Quote: "This AV I am thinking about has cost our company lots of money when introducing a defect update." }-To be fair, it is not the only AV that has issued erroneous signature updates. I can recall at least 3 vendors where such definitions crippled systems if users applied the faulty update. I agree it shouldn't happen though, but when it has it often results in such companies in having to review their update procedures.

[Rivalen]

-{ Quote: "To be fair, it is not the only AV that has issued erroneous signature updates. I can recall at least 3 vendors where such definitions crippled systems if users applied the faulty update. I agree it shouldn't happen though, but when it has it often results in such companies in having to review their update procedures." }-
I never mentioned which AV vendor I was thinking about. No reason to point a finger since I cant explain the details. Privately I have never experienced total havoc - more like minor problems with updates etc. Cross my fingers that I am in the right place for my private PCs protection nowadays.8)

[Cutting_Edgetech]

-{ Quote: "To be fair, it is not the only AV that has issued erroneous signature updates. I can recall at least 3 vendors where such definitions crippled systems if users applied the faulty update. I agree it shouldn't happen though, but when it has it often results in such companies in having to review their update procedures." }-
I can name a lot more than 3! I want though because there's not good reason to.

[Fajo]

It will be out when its out. Trust me we all are eagerly waiting for it to come out, We all have toys we want to throw at it and see how it holds up. But I rather wait the extra time how ever long that may be then be disappointed when its released because it was rushed.

Prevx is one of the few AVs that I can set and forget and expect it to do its job. I don't want that view changed now because of a rushed product.

Joe, Take your time make sure it works. We will all be here to help with the bug phase when it's ready.

[shadek]

I think we'll be seeing an early Prevx beta in any week now!

[Kernelwars]

-{ Quote: "I think we'll be seeing an early Prevx beta in any week now!" }-
lol really?:argh:

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "I think we'll be seeing an early Prevx beta in any week now!" }-

That would be great. Hopefully ??? it will introduce changes in the way SafeOnline works, for example. I do believe that it will be possible to choose which browser to protect and under what user account it should be working? (Something I suggested sometime ago.)

Also, and I believe this is something I did not suggest ;D, considering the changes I mentioned, will it be possible to tell SafeOnline where the browser path is, for those situations where we run it in a non-standard path? Or, in what other way would this be achieved?

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "That would be great. Hopefully ??? it will introduce changes in the way SafeOnline works, for example. I do believe that it will be possible to choose which browser to protect and under what user account it should be working? (Something I suggested sometime ago.)

Also, and I believe this is something I did not suggest ;D, considering the changes I mentioned, will it be possible to tell SafeOnline where the browser path is, for those situations where we run it in a non-standard path? Or, in what other way would this be achieved?" }-

;) It would certainly be nice to be able to protect any program as well, not only browsers. :shifty:

[Cutting_Edgetech]

-{ Quote: ";) It would certainly be nice to be able to protect any program as well, not only browsers. :shifty:" }-
Is that a hint of whats to come?

[Rivalen]

I am getting abit tired of this cat and mouse game. Give us something to go by or just stop all the hinting and blinking etc. >:(

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

PrevxHelp stated multiple times that SafeOnline will be expanding it's protection to other apps :)
Here's a quote:
-{ Quote: "
Yes, this is correct. SafeOnline currently focuses on just protecting browsers but the protection actually takes place lower than the browser itself and we will be extending the protection to custom applications with Prevx 4.0" }-

[Baldrick]

-{ Quote: "Is that a hint of whats to come?" }-
Now, do you honestly think that Joe can say more than that other apps may be protected in the future? The key is 'what other apps'? ;)

Ohhhhhhhh! I can hardly wait! ;D ;D

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "I am getting abit tired of this cat and mouse game. Give us something to go by or just stop all the hinting and blinking etc. >:(" }-

I for one like the tid bits of information we get, It helps inform us of the direction they are trying to take Prevx and a hint of whats to come. From what I have read on this board so far we wont be disappointed just give them time to make sure its ready for prime time testing before they release it into bug phase. The last thing we want to have happen is it gets released and hoes half there beta base. This aint A.... O Ill stop there.

Anyways Joe, I want to thank you In advance for your hard work and time we all know you have already spent working on the project. And the chances you have took even giving us the info that you have, As anyone in your position is supposed to be fully closed lipped as it is. ;)

[m00nbl00d]

I've got one question regarding exploit protection, which I forgot to ask before. Will it only provide protection for the major web browsers (IE, Firefox, Opera and Chrome)? Or, will it protect regardless of the web browser, at the image of what happens with AVG LinkScanner, by just scanning http traffic?

I ask, because, in all honesty, I'm quite fed up with no valid alternatives existing to LinkScanner, because they just either support IE or only IE and Firefox.

P.S: I don't remember if it has been mentioned before.

[Rivalen]

-{ Quote: "I for one like the tid bits of information we get, It helps inform us of the direction they are trying to take Prevx and a hint of whats to come. From what I have read on this board so far we wont be disappointed just give them time to make sure its ready for prime time testing before they release it into bug phase. The last thing we want to have happen is it gets released and hoes half there beta base. This aint A.... O Ill stop there.

Anyways Joe, I want to thank you In advance for your hard work and time we all know you have already spent working on the project. And the chances you have took even giving us the info that you have, As anyone in your position is supposed to be fully closed lipped as it is. ;)" }-
Sorry Joe and everybody else - I was probably in a bad mood. If I dont like - dont read it. :-[

[Cutting_Edgetech]

I would like to see Prevx add scanning of HTTP/S, FTP, POP3, SMTP to there Malware scanning protocols. I want to see the malware blocked before it is every able to download to my drive. If this can be done without interfering with my AV then I would be extremely Happy! I also miss the lite HIPS / BB that V2 had. V2 also acted like a firewall detecting when programs were trying to use protocols such as telenet, IRC, and others that my firewall did not detect. It would be nice to see Prevx design there own firewall.

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "I would like to see Prevx add scanning of HTTP/S, FTP, POP3, SMTP to there Malware scanning protocols. I want to see the malware blocked before it is every able to download to my drive. If this can be done without interfering with my AV then I would be extremely Happy! I also miss the lite HIPS / BB that V2 had. V2 also acted like a firewall detecting when programs were trying to use protocols such as telenet, IRC, and others that my firewall did not detect. It would be nice to see Prevx design there own firewall." }-

Scanning files on write makes the program heavy. I think Prevx should stay in the same way it is now; only scan on execution combined with automatic on-demand scans! :)

And I agree, Prevx should make a lightweighted, yet strong firewall which took information to the cloud and allowed trusted files and blocked malicious files from accessing the internet. The firewall should of course be a standalone application. We don't want Prevx to become bloatware, do we? :)

[trjam]

Prevx will continue to make the next version in the footprint of the current. The biggest difference will be, it wears shoes.;)

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "Prevx will continue to make the next version in the footprint of the current. The biggest difference will be, it wears shoes.;)" }-

With iron noses to kick butt :P

[trjam]

this is going to be the most anticipated beta yet, for all products. It could even be revolutionary in terms of protection.

Or, it could be a big fat dud. Not....Lol

[Cutting_Edgetech]

-{ Quote: "Scanning files on write makes the program heavy. I think Prevx should stay in the same way it is now; only scan on execution combined with automatic on-demand scans! :)

And I agree, Prevx should make a lightweighted, yet strong firewall which took information to the cloud and allowed trusted files and blocked malicious files from accessing the internet. The firewall should of course be a standalone application. We don't want Prevx to become bloatware, do we? :)" }-
Yes, that's what I meant. I would like the Firewall to be a standalone application.

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

Will Prevx 4 also show more advanced categories when detecting malware? For example now it's mostly divided in 3 groups, low risk, medium risk and high risk malware, it doesn't show more details, but if you look in the MyPrevx console it shows more details for example TROJAN.AGENT.GEN.

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "Will Prevx 4 also show more advanced categories when detecting malware? For example now it's mostly divided in 3 groups, low risk, medium risk and high risk malware, it doesn't show more details, but if you look in the MyPrevx console it shows more details for example TROJAN.AGENT.GEN." }-

Yes, it would be handy to see what the computers actually encountered for kind of threat, more specifically.

[Cutting_Edgetech]

I didn't start keeping up with this thread until recently so I apologize if this has already been covered. Has there been any confirmation of adding the Spysweeper engine with Prevx? Several cloud based AV's are adding multiple engines to their arsenal, and Spysweeper has always had a solid detection ratting for rogues, and other similar malware. Its been heavy on resources the last few years, but I believe if the engine could be made lighter on resources for Prevx then I believe it could be a great addition.

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Will Prevx 4 also show more advanced categories when detecting malware? For example now it's mostly divided in 3 groups, low risk, medium risk and high risk malware, it doesn't show more details, but if you look in the MyPrevx console it shows more details for example TROJAN.AGENT.GEN." }-

At the moment we aren't pushing down specific malware names to the agent in P4 but there has been some discussion to do so. Our goal is to keep it as straightforward as possible, as most users haven't the slightest idea what Trojan-Downloader.Win32.ScaryName.32768.b is so I suspect we'll end up showing additional information on the file rather than a name that is to be of marginal use (as no vendor is consistent with them).

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "I didn't start keeping up with this thread until recently so I apologize if this has already been covered. Has there been any confirmation of adding the Spysweeper engine with Prevx? Several cloud based AV's are adding multiple engines to their arsenal, and Spysweeper has always had a solid detection ratting for rogues, and other similar malware. Its been heavy on resources the last few years, but I believe if the engine could be made litter on resources for Prevx then I believe it could be a great addition." }-

Yes :) Our research teams are already working closely together and will be implementing the detection centrally within the cloud to the agent :)

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "Yes :) Our research teams are already working closely together and will be implementing the detection centrally within the cloud to the agent :)" }-

Doesn't Webroot use the Sophos engine? Is that what'll be seeing in the cloud together with existing Prevx technology? Sophos is in my opinion one of the best engines out there. That combined with Prevx would be very neat indeed.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Doesn't Webroot use the Sophos engine? Is that what'll be seeing in the cloud together with existing Prevx technology? Sophos is in my opinion one of the best engines out there. That combined with Prevx would be very neat indeed." }-

Yes they do but Webroot does not own Sophos so I would doubt that part would be included just SpySweeper as PrevxHelp said!

TH

[shadek]

-{ Quote: "Yes they do but Webroot does not own Sophos so I would doubt that part would be included just SpySweeper as PrevxHelp said!

TH" }-

I know that. I just assumed that since Webroot 'leases' the Sophos engine, we'd be seeing it in the cloud of Prevx 4! It was just a wild assumption of me. :)

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "I know that. I just assumed that since Webroot 'leases' the Sophos engine, we'd be seeing it in the cloud of Prevx 4! It was just a wild assumption of me. :)" }-

Yes it would be nice but I personally feel it's unnecessary, I feel that Prevx has more in there database that would benefit Webroot in there packages and in time they will not need Sophos IMHO!

TH ;)

[Cutting_Edgetech]

-{ Quote: "Yes :) Our research teams are already working closely together and will be implementing the detection centrally within the cloud to the agent :)" }-

That's good to hear. Spysweeper is also one of the best at detecting, and removing keyloggers which is my biggest reason for wanting to see the two combined. This is detection from Spysweeper's engine, and not Sophos so Spysweeper is strong in detecting keyloggers, and rogues even without Sophos engine.

[general_zerohour]

well i am sold on this app and now new version soon with new technology just incredible.

[Adric]

Only about 33 more weeks and this thread will be a year old. ;D

Al

[jmonge]

we waiting to long already lol;D

[Triple Helix]

If the Prevx staff would say anything and they are not aloud to they would be under Double Secret Probation! (Animal House) :D

TH

[Dermot7]

Is there any plan to integrate the BrightCloud technology with Prevx's own technology, and if so, can any details be revealed?

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Is there any plan to integrate the BrightCloud technology with Prevx's own technology, and if so, can any details be revealed?" }-

We're currently working to add benefits from BrightCloud to SafeOnline and vice versa :) All of these benefits will come transparently to the end user (and there are a few other technologies as well which will be implemented to help improve password security).

[adam993]

Good news :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
I'm wait for beta :)

[lordraiden]

-{ Quote: "We're currently working to add benefits from BrightCloud to SafeOnline and vice versa :) All of these benefits will come transparently to the end user (and there are a few other technologies as well which will be implemented to help improve password security)." }-

There is in any place explained the changes of prevx 4? or what is BrightCloud ?

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

Are we talking about this BrightCloud?
http://www.brightcloud.com/

[trjam]

Webroot has acquired BrightCloud (http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/webroot-acquires-brightcloud-innovator-in-web-site-classification-and-reputation-services-97921284.html)

[trjam]

I meant to also add, this was a heck of a acquisition. If BrightCloud is incorporated into the new Prevx this will really take it in a new direction.:thumb:

[Dermot7]

-{ Quote: "We're currently working to add benefits from BrightCloud to SafeOnline and vice versa :) All of these benefits will come transparently to the end user (and there are a few other technologies as well which will be implemented to help improve password security)." }-
Thank you Joe...sounds good to me! :)

[Fad]

Is BrightCloud in any way connected to BrightFeed ?

[TonyW]

I don't think the two are connected. BrightFeed is an opt-in service apparently being offered by TalkTalk to provide parents a way to control online content via their broadband connection.

BrightCloud allows users to check the content and reputation of an URL. You can test it out here (http://brightcloud.com/support/lookup.php).

[Fad]

Thanks, it was a bit early this morning to do any in-depth looking.

The names struck me as being very similar and wondered if it was anything to do with the TalkTalk snooping fiasco - both being similar types of system from what I can gather - maybe TalkTalk just ripped the name off ::)

[m00nbl00d]

I wonder if BrightCloud is what will be scanning URLs for exploits, etc? I think that for exploits it may not be the case, because domains hosting exploits go down and up like rabbits. ;D

By the way, PrevxHelp/Joe, could you shed a few more lights on this feature (the one that will be scanning URLs for exploits... JavaScript obfuscation also?)?

-edit-

I'm looking up a few URLs with BrightCloud, and so far seems pretty accurate! :thumb:

-edit 2-

So, I threw 46 URLs at it and it flagged them all, either with Suspicious, Moderate Risk or High Risk ratings. Never once it gave them green ratings. :thumb: These URLs were added today to the source where I got them.

I wasn't familiarized with BrightCloud! Nice service.

[m00nbl00d]

So far I'm enjoying the damn thing. ;D I've been testing it against ULRs hosting exploits and so far has been rating them as dangerous, but it has rated one has being green, though.

I tested this URL against AVG LinkScanner and it flagged it. Other services rate it green too. But, it's a domain hosting rogue crap/exploit, and the same IP also hosts many other dubious domains.

I'm going to request a new category for that URL to be analyzed.

This clearly shows that rating service won't always be accurate, as any other won't ever be. It's not a bad service, but it needs to provide a real-time inspection of URLs.

[TonyW]

-{ Quote: "I've been testing it against ULRs hosting exploits and so far has been rating them as dangerous, but it has rated one has being green, though." }-Norton's Cybercrime Index lists 5 'dangerous' websites; I tested today's domains against BrightCloud, and only one was marked high risk malware. Two were adult/porn sites marked green and trustworthy. One was a low risk parked domain, and another was suspicious and uncategorised.

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "Norton's Cybercrime Index lists 5 'dangerous' websites; I tested today's domains against BrightCloud, and only one was marked high risk malware. Two were adult/porn sites marked green and trustworthy. One was a low risk parked domain, and another was suspicious and uncategorised." }-

Why would adult/porn sites being marked red? Are they bad? Maybe so... it makes us want to do bad things, uh? lol

Jokes aside, what does that exactly mean? Very often (more than I wished so), AVG LinkScanner and others flag what Norton SafeWeb fails to do so. Does this mean Norton SafeWeb is lame? Not at all.

What exactly was the purpose of your reply? 5 URLs against 46 URLs? Which results are most accurate?

Norton's Index thing also requires me to have JavaScript enabled. :thumbd: to that. ;)

[funkydude]

-{ Quote: "We're currently working to add benefits from BrightCloud to SafeOnline and vice versa :) All of these benefits will come transparently to the end user (and there are a few other technologies as well which will be implemented to help improve password security)." }-

I'm not familiar with the company so I had to read up on them, hopefully it ends up being a positive for you.

-{ Quote: "
We're still a couple months away from a beta release - it should be available around Jan. '11 :)" }-

-{ Quote: "Boo! Hiss! :)" }-

Hopefully we're there soon? :P

[iNsuRRecTioN]

-{ Quote: "We're currently working to add benefits from BrightCloud to SafeOnline and vice versa :) All of these benefits will come transparently to the end user (and there are a few other technologies as well which will be implemented to help improve password security)." }-

Hi Joe,

thanks for this, nice info. :thumb:

And how does this service compare against the well known Barracuda networks?
More info here: http://www.barracudanetworks.com and here: http://www.barracudacentral.org/

Because this webpage http://www.brightcloud.com/solutions/safe.php on BrightCloud compares against Google Safe Browsing API and says size does matter..

Barracuda networks is the provider of e.g. the blocking site data for Dyn Internet Guide DNS service: http://dyn.com/open-dialogue/press-releases/internet-guide-makes-web-safer

An comparison BrightCloud vs. the Barracuda networks url data API would be very useful and interesting..! *puppy* :shifty:



-{ Quote: "I don't think the two are connected. BrightFeed is an opt-in service apparently being offered by TalkTalk to provide parents a way to control online content via their broadband connection.

BrightCloud allows users to check the content and reputation of an URL. You can test it out here (http://brightcloud.com/support/lookup.php)." }-

Interesting.. Since when is DE=Germany in America? :argh: :thumbd:
I tested and entered two german domains, www.hartware.de and www.computerbase.de, but the map shows them located in America.. lol ???



Btw. I can't give them site feedback because the link http://www.brightcloud.com/site/sitefeedback.php don't work, it drops/throws me an exception:
-{ Quote: "Parse error: syntax error, unexpected ')', expecting '&' or T_VARIABLE in /data/17/2/85/9/2085498/user/2286687/htdocs/site/sitefeedback.php on line 3" }-

regards,

iNsuRRecTiON

[TonyW]

-{ Quote: "What exactly was the purpose of your reply? 5 URLs against 46 URLs? Which results are most accurate?" }-I was only testing BrightCloud with the 5 URLs Norton deemed to be "dangerous" out of curiosity and commenting on it since we're discussing BC.

I know some vendors give different results, but curiosity got the better of me on this occasion, and I thought I would share. That is all. :)

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "I was only testing BrightCloud with the 5 URLs Norton deemed to be "dangerous" out of curiosity and commenting on it since we're discussing BC.

I know some vendors give different results, but curiosity got the better of me on this occasion, and I thought I would share. That is all. :)" }-

OK. :)

-edit-

In the name of fairness, I tested it against 5 URLs serving rogue AVs and it flagged them all with a Suspicious rating. ;D

[Baz_kasp]

-{ Quote: "OK. :)

-edit-

In the name of fairness, I tested it against 5 URLs serving rogue AVs and it flagged them all with a Suspicious rating. ;D" }-

but it also flags my old blog as a "malware" site... the only "malware" that is on my blog is in picture form in order to inform people about its dangers :(

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "but it also flags my old blog as a "malware" site... the only "malware" that is on my blog is in picture form in order to inform people about its dangers :(" }-

You can send a request to put it under a new category. Just verify your blog's domain and then click on "Suggest a new category", placed right at the top, at the "Reputation Index" left side. You don't need to enter any e-mail, by the way, unless you'd like to be notified about it.

[pydipala]

Is there any Solution for this in Prevx 4 ?


I found this on one of Microsoft's IE9 testing sites...

Note: This is NOT a rouge link:

link : https://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/browser/mixedcontent/assets/woodgrove.htm


Am I to assume that the detection of so-called "Mixed Content" attacks are the sole responsibility of a web browser, or will an anti-malware program (e.g., BluePoint Security) also be able to detect this?

It should be noted that the current iterations of Opera and Firefox dont even bat an eyelash at this issue.

Thanks.

:thumb:

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Is there any Solution for this in Prevx 4 ?


I found this on one of Microsoft's IE9 testing sites...

Note: This is NOT a rouge link:

link : https://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/browser/mixedcontent/assets/woodgrove.htm


Am I to assume that the detection of so-called "Mixed Content" attacks are the sole responsibility of a web browser, or will an anti-malware program (e.g., BluePoint Security) also be able to detect this?

It should be noted that the current iterations of Opera and Firefox dont even bat an eyelash at this issue.

Thanks.

:thumb:" }-

Discussion here: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=285324

TH

[Pablo87]

any new news about prevx 4
when will the beta avaible for testing?

[TonyW]

-{ Quote: "when will the beta avaible for testing?" }-The beta will be available for testing when it is ready to be unleashed to users. It is expected to be soon, but no dates have been announced yet. I suggest you keep an eye on this forum for further news on when you can test the beta. :)