Prevention techniques against keyloggers!!!!

[Kernelwars]

Hi Guys,
I invite all the security minded folks here at wilders to bring out the techniques and possible ways to stop the lurking threat of keyloggers and help keep them away..
Thanks,
kernel

[eugene91]

use Prevx SafeOnline ?

[kjdemuth]

Ditto. Safe online stopped a fake login for facebook. It was a link from an email that was sent to me. I must have been half asleep because I followed the link and started to put in my info. Safe online chirped up and said that the link and the site weren't matching. It came up as a redirect phishing site. It works well, thats all I can say.

[CloneRanger]

How about one of those Antikeylogger thingys :D Or even better, don't allow apps to run you're not sure of ;)

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "use Prevx SafeOnline ?" }-
I agree -- to an extent. As the name infers, SOL works ONLY online. Further, SOL will protect keystrokes typed into a secured web browser (i.e. one that's on an HTTPS website).

As to offline protection, one would want an anti-malware program of some sort that will protect you from installing a keylogger ( or keylogger-type trojan) in the first place.

However, what if a keylogger-bearing trojan manages to get past your other protection? AFAIK, if you are working offline, SOL doesn't protect you. If you are working online with a non-Prevx-protected browser (e.g., K-meleon), then you are, again, on your own. If you are working at a non-HTTPS website, you are, once again, on your own with respect to SOL.

For PGP offline or online, under any & all circumstances, versus an active keylogger infection -- Online Armor is pretty good. Spyshelter & Zemana Antilogger are also pretty good.

Also good -- use a firewall that blocks any & ALL outbound connections that you do not specifically authorize ad hoc. REALLY blocking all unauthorized outbounds will almost certainly emasculate a keylogger infection & prevent it from being able to do any real harm.

[CloneRanger]

I can confirm that Zemana Antilogger is very good having tested it against various KL's and specific tests, and Also Prevx SafeOnline PSOL as well. The good news is they do work together, slight overlap in some areas, but you are still covered by at least one of them. I'm running both very happily ;)

With PSOL you can manually add in protection for non HTTPS www's

221131

Spyshelter is also highly rated on here, though i havn't tried it, yet.

You can try all of these, and more for free, and then test them and see which you prefer etc :thumb:

[cheater87]

Geswall and Sandboxie would be great. :) Sandboxie lets you choose what you want to have internet and running privileges to. So you can have your browser and IM program be the ONLY things allowed to running privileges and have internet access. Geswall alerts you if anything is trying to send data out and allows you to block it.

[Soujirou]

idk, would Sandboxie prevent what almost happened to kjdemuth?

[Konata Izumi]

-{ Quote: "idk, would Sandboxie prevent what almost happened to kjdemuth?" }-

no. 8)

[Kernelwars]

say you get infected by a nasty keylogger but you have something to encrypt your keystrokes .. what you guys think about that? maybe the logger is present but its not getting any info the correct ones i mean..???

[jmonge]

keyscrambler;) :thumb: will do the job:thumb:

[kjdemuth]

Prevention is good. Sometimes it doens't always work. Thats were having keyscrambler comes in handy. Unobtrusive and silent for the most part.

[buckslayr]

My daughter has a MacBook pro. Is there a need for an anti keylogger for mac? If so what are some choices?

[Mr.PC]

I use KeyScrambler Pro and DefenseWall.

I have downloaded many KeyLoggers and
KeyLogging Test Files (e.g. Zemana, SpyShelter etc.)
and run them 'as Untrusted' inside DefenseWall.
No one 'managed to escape'...;D

[jmonge]

Defensewall is a champ i will be very soon installing in al of my pcs again:thumb:

[Kernelwars]

Defensewall is very good for prevention but I still think keyscrambler is the best answer incase something is smart enough and desperate to compromise our privacy:)

[jmonge]

kernelwars is correct;) :thumb: :thumb:

[Kees1958]

-{ Quote: "My daughter has a MacBook pro. Is there a need for an anti keylogger for mac? If so what are some choices?" }-

No, Mac users never have to worry about PC security

For people who do not believe this farytale: Install Trusteer Rapport for MAC see http://www.trusteer.com/supported-platforms
Choose for every setting allow when possible. Add your banking sites to the protected sites.

[buckslayr]

-{ Quote: "No, Mac users never have to worry about PC security

For people who do not believe this farytale: Install Trusteer Rapport for MAC see http://www.trusteer.com/supported-platforms
Choose for every setting allow when possible. Add your banking sites to the protected sites." }-

Thanks Kees. I'm going to give it a try.

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "No, Mac users never have to worry about PC security

[...]

" }-

Never? You know what people use to say: "Never say never." You know why? It is a long time.

Edit: Well, I guess you're right in that statement of yours. A Mac is not a PC, so... It makes sense. :D

[Scoobs72]

-{ Quote: "Never? You know what people use to say: "Never say never." You know why? It is a long time.

Edit: Well, I guess you're right in that statement of yours. A Mac is not a PC, so... It makes sense. :D" }-

I think you've missed the sarcasm in Kees response:)

[buckslayr]

-{ Quote: "Thanks Kees. I'm going to give it a try." }-

Installed last night. Pretty simple extra layer of protection. For mac it only supports Safari and Firefox. I've been using google chrome but that's not a deal breaker. Thanks again.

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "I think you've missed the sarcasm in Kees response:)" }-

Hence the reason I edited my post afterwards... A Mac is not a PC, so they don't have to worry about PC security. ;) Nice... indeed. :D They need to worry about Mac security!

[wearetheborg]

-{ Quote: "Hence the reason I edited my post afterwards... A Mac is not a PC, so they don't have to worry about PC security. ;) Nice... indeed. :D They need to worry about Mac security!" }-


WTH....PC=Personal Computer, whether it has windows or OS X Or Linux is irrelevant

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "WTH....PC=Personal Computer, whether it has windows or OS X Or Linux is irrelevant" }-

Yes, PC stands for Personal Computer.

But, you cannot have Mac OS X running in a PC (IBM-based PC), can you? No. At least, not legally, for what I know.

So, in the case, a Mac is not a PC, so to speak, now is it? Sure, Mac is a PC, but not really a PC, right?

In a PC I have the freedom of installing whatever O.S I want, except for Mac OS.

In a Mac, you run Windows, but not as the only Operating System. It is possible to run Linux, but then again, not supported by Apple, right?

I also can build any PC system choosing the hardware I want, not the hardware Apple wants me to buy, isn't that right?

So, no Mac is not a PC in my book! Despite the fact is it a Personal Computer. But not quite a PC, right?

Edit: Mac's should be tagged as Apple's Personal Computers... It's what they are... Their own chosen hardware... Not my choices... So, no sir, not my Personal Computer.

[Kernelwars]

-{ Quote: "Yes, PC stands for Personal Computer.

But, you cannot have Mac OS X running in a PC (IBM-based PC), can you? No. At least, not legally, for what I know.

So, in the case, a Mac is not a PC, so to speak, now is it? Sure, Mac is a PC, but not really a PC, right?

In a PC I have the freedom of installing whatever O.S I want, except for Mac OS.

In a Mac, you run Windows, but not as the only Operating System. It is possible to run Linux, but then again, not supported by Apple, right?

I also can build any PC system choosing the hardware I want, not the hardware Apple wants me to buy, isn't that right?

So, no Mac is not a PC in my book! Despite the fact is it a Personal Computer. But not quite a PC, right?

Edit: Mac's should be tagged as Apple's Personal Computers... It's what they are... Their own chosen hardware... Not my choices... So, no sir, not my Personal Computer." }-
interesting post???

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "interesting post???" }-

Not that interesting, actually. Just mentioning that a Mac is not a PC. Even Apple makes a clear difference:

-{ Quote: "Is a Mac safe from PC viruses?

Yes. The Mac OS X operating system isn’t susceptible to the thousands of viruses plaguing Windows-based computers. And although no computer connected to the Internet is completely immune to all viruses and spyware, Mac OS X has built-in defenses designed with your safety in mind. The Mac web browser, Safari, alerts you whenever you’re downloading an application — even if it’s disguised as a picture or movie file. And Apple continually makes free security updates available for Mac owners. You can even have them download automatically." }-

source: http://www.apple.com/why-mac/faq/

If we consider a Mac to be a PC, no a Mac isn't safe from PC viruses, because a Mac is a PC. The difference lies in the O.S market share.
But, if even Apple makes a Mac vs PC, then it clearly says it isn't a PC. Who am I to disagree how Apple tags their own products?
Otherwise, the question "Is a Mac safe from PC viruses?" would have to be "Is Mac OS safe from Windows viruses?".

I even remember Apple having a Mac vs PC in their main site. Not there anymore, though.

By the way, sorry for the previous off-topic post. Anyway, just tried to clarify the confusion started with Mac vs PC.

[markedmanner]

Personally I think if you use Zemana Antilogger + Keyscrambler you should be pretty much covered.

[buckslayr]

I think I inadvertently started this mac / PC discussion. All I was looking for was a suggestion for keylogger protection on daughters MacBook pro. Ended up trying and really liking trusteer rapport.