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3GUSER
July 28th, 2010, 06:06 AM
Earlier this morning I checked my email and wow , Hotmail has changed again . What a nice difference ! :thumb:
Looks perfect now . Congratulations to Microsoft team!
Do you like it users of Windows Live?
The Seeker
July 28th, 2010, 08:41 AM
It is indeed very nice. I'm wanting to transfer my Gmail messages over but unfortunately, TrueSwitch doesn't currently support @live.co.uk addresses.
LenC
July 28th, 2010, 09:28 AM
For me, hotmail is a backup and I check it infrequently. So I did log in, and it looks like the same-old.
I use gmail. It took some time to get used to it (and the labeling concept), but now I couldn't use anything else.
SIR****TMG
July 28th, 2010, 09:44 AM
I like gmail also
BoerenkoolMetWorst
July 28th, 2010, 10:26 AM
Mine was just upgraded too today, but Full session SSL is not yet available:
-{ Quote: "Unfortunately, several big features for Hotmail Wave 4 such as Full-session SSL and Exchange ActiveSync are not part of this update. This is what Ben Vincent from the Hotmail team has to say on the Inside Windows Live blog:
Is full-session SSL part of the Hotmail updates happening right now?
SSL is not part of this release, we'll share more details on it's availability on this blog in due course.
Why not? When will it take place?
Hotmail isn't one big monolithic platform built by a single engineering team. As a result we ship different parts at different times based on the schedule we built when we started the Wave. We're going to continue to update everyone through this blog when we have news to share. Thanks for your interest in Hotmail, we appreciate it." }-
-{ Quote: "For me, hotmail is a backup and I check it infrequently. So I did log in, and it looks like the same-old.
I use gmail. It took some time to get used to it (and the labeling concept), but now I couldn't use anything else." }-
They upgrade per cluster, so you'll have to wait until the cluster where your account is located is upgraded.
iravgupta
July 28th, 2010, 11:06 AM
Advantages of Hotmail over Gmail, for me -
1. A reading pane.
2. Far superior sync with client (compared with POP3, IMAP, SMTP)
3. Seamless switch between Hotmail and other Windows Live services.
4. Folders (call me old school, but I don't like tags)
5. Availability of a dedicated mail client that outperforms every other mail client.
Currently I have set my Gmail, Yahoo and GMX accounts to seamlessly forward all incoming mails to my Hotmail account. Been using this setup since a long time. Works awesome.
ALookingInView
July 28th, 2010, 11:09 AM
Haven't fully explored it yet, but I like what I've seen so far.
zfactor
July 28th, 2010, 11:28 AM
no changes for me yet
Page42
July 28th, 2010, 12:57 PM
I could do without the new wow! and hooray! messages appearing in otherwise empty boxes... but I'll soon grow used to them, I suppose. But empty should be empty. These new messages are almost like low-level nag screens. :)
Victek123
July 28th, 2010, 01:09 PM
-{ Quote: "no changes for me yet" }-
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I have a Hotmail Plus account and I mostly use the Windows Live Mail desktop client, but I've been checking the webmail every so often looking for the new UI. So far it hasn't been implemented. I also have an older free hotmail account that I don't use anymore, but can't kill. I checked it recently and it had the new UI - go figure! :)
Page42
July 28th, 2010, 01:13 PM
-{ Quote: ".
I also have an older free hotmail account that I don't use anymore, but can't kill. I checked it recently and it had the new UI - go figure! :)" }-
What mean, "can't kill"? Just close the account and don't log into it again for 270 days, or whatever number of days it happens to be. :)
Daveski17
July 28th, 2010, 01:15 PM
I still get regular junk mail, I never do in Gmail. I'm sticking with Google! 8)
CloneRanger
July 28th, 2010, 01:17 PM
You might not be so overjoyed once you've read this :(
Concerned About Privacy - http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r24138333-Concerned-About-Privacy
Page42
July 28th, 2010, 01:40 PM
Thanks for the link, CR. It was interesting to review the privacy settings. Nothing there alarmed me. :)
NAMOR
July 29th, 2010, 04:51 AM
The changes look good. I have to stay with gmail since it's integrated into my phone and all my online accounts.
Victek123
July 29th, 2010, 11:40 AM
-{ Quote: "What mean, "can't kill"? Just close the account and don't log into it again for 270 days, or whatever number of days it happens to be. :)" }-
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How do you close a hotmail account? I have certainly allowed it to be inactive for very long periods of time, but that hasn't made a difference. I've attempted to find a location in "Options" where this can be done, but it's like wandering lost in a maze.
korben
July 29th, 2010, 11:43 AM
Starting to like it more and more but help me out with this:
every time I log in my account I'm welcome with 'What's new in windos live' and 'Facebook myspace' accounts feature - how to disable it? I thought when I close with the X it will never come back - how foolish of me...
Daveski17
July 29th, 2010, 12:07 PM
OK, I gotta admit ... my Hotmail account just looks the same. Maybe MS will get around to me eventually. I think it's their way of getting back at me for *extracting the urine from IE for so long! :wacko:
*British slang: 'Taking the piss/Extracting the urine' ~ To mock, riducule or denigrate in some fashion, often humorously.
Page42
July 29th, 2010, 12:30 PM
-{ Quote: ".
How do you close a hotmail account? I have certainly allowed it to be inactive for very long periods of time, but that hasn't made a difference. I've attempted to find a location in "Options" where this can be done, but it's like wandering lost in a maze." }-
I know exactly what you mean. They don't make it easy to say goodbye, which I'm sure is by design.
Follow this clickstream and you shall find your way through the maze...
1. sign in
2. Options
3. more options
4. Manage your account
5. View & edit your personal information
6. sign in (again!)
7. in Account overview... scroll to bottom
8. other options
9. close your account
10. you'll again be asked to enter your password
11. you may get a message saying it can't be closed as long as some other MS account is active (I forget the wording on this). Just tell them to shut that down as well. This deletes all your email in that account.
12. you get some kind of message wherein they promise to hold your account in case you wish to reopen it by signing in again within 270 (I think) days.
13. you're all done
14. wasn't that easy?
;)
Victek123
July 29th, 2010, 08:19 PM
-{ Quote: "I know exactly what you mean. They don't make it easy to say goodbye, which I'm sure is by design.
Follow this clickstream and you shall find your way through the maze...
1. sign in
2. Options
3. more options
4. Manage your account
5. View & edit your personal information
6. sign in (again!)
7. in Account overview... scroll to bottom
8. other options
9. close your account
10. you'll again be asked to enter your password
11. you may get a message saying it can't be closed as long as some other MS account is active (I forget the wording on this). Just tell them to shut that down as well. This deletes all your email in that account.
12. you get some kind of message wherein they promise to hold your account in case you wish to reopen it by signing in again within 270 (I think) days.
13. you're all done
14. wasn't that easy?
;)" }-
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Thanks for the detailed instructions. I got to the point where I received the message about another account being active. I couldn't get past that though because it says there are billing services associated with it that have to be stopped first. So I went to the billing services site where it says there are no services associated with the account ID. Yay!::)
Noob
July 30th, 2010, 03:14 AM
HMMM. . .
Mine is a bit different and i really hate it :D
Probably the old one but i never care to really check it out :)
blacknight
July 30th, 2010, 08:32 AM
I'm counter, but I liked more the previous look.
iravgupta
July 30th, 2010, 01:16 PM
-{ Quote: "I'm counter, but I liked more the previous look. " }-
Me too. Looks like except the new Hotmail logo, nothing is an improvement. :(
korben
July 31st, 2010, 04:34 AM
and can't we get a different welcome screen?? i found the option: go straight to inbox but nothing's changed, I sill have to see the welcome page first which is a nuisance.
Daveski17
July 31st, 2010, 12:08 PM
Yay! I have the new Hotmail at last. Now let's see if MS can make good on their promise to keep my junk mail box free of junk. ;)
iravgupta
July 31st, 2010, 01:18 PM
-{ Quote: "Yay! I have the new Hotmail at last. Now let's see if MS can make good on their promise to keep my junk mail box free of junk. ;)" }-
As long as you promise to help them out by marking junk mail as Junk and not simply deleting it. ;)
Daveski17
July 31st, 2010, 03:12 PM
-{ Quote: "As long as you promise to help them out by marking junk mail as Junk and not simply deleting it. ;)" }-
I always do ... honest guvnor ... no word of a lie *Doh!* ;)
Eice
July 31st, 2010, 03:27 PM
Got it a few days ago, and I'm finally done migrating my Gmail messages to it. The new features and integration with other Windows Live services more than make up for its lack of labels, if you ask me.
Daveski17
July 31st, 2010, 03:51 PM
Well, it seems fine in Chrome & Safari but seems to render a bit weird in SeaMonkey, almost 'skeletal'. I reckon it's either lazy browser sniffing or SM can't handle the new changes.
Edit ~ Ermm... OK, riddle me this: Why won't Hotmail work in Chrome yet works fine in Iron?
When I open Hotmail in Chrome it appears for a second or two then the screen goes blank (white). It opens in IE Tab in Chrome, yet it is fine in Iron without it. This may just be a temporary gremlin or two ... :wacko:
It also works fine in Firefox!
Daveski17
August 1st, 2010, 10:47 AM
OK, this is just weird. Bear with me on this for a while please, OK, I now have the new Hotmail. I'm in Chrome & I log in. Everything's fine. I can send, reply, delete mail etc to my heart's content. I open a new page &/or surf the Net. I go back to Hotmail by clicking the toolbar icon & for a second Hotmail appears then the page goes blank. I close the browser & re-open it the cycle continues; I can log-in once & everything is OK. Twice & I get the blank page. This does not happen on SRWare Iron (or any other browser I have). Strangely, it does not apply with my Hotmail calendar if I just access that. I have no idea what is going on with this, I have tried disabling extensions & adjusting JavaScript settings back to 'on' as default (& back again) but I have no explanation for this behaviour. :wacko:
Edit~ I have been thinking about this & I did remember trying to block an advert that seemed to have slipped through on Hotmail once & had to set the AdBlock browser button to green. Otherwise I got the blank page. It must be related to this as it works fine if I disable the AB extension then re-start the browser (I forgot about that) I am not sure how to 'undo' this original adblocking action in Hotmail. Has anyone else had odd experiences with AdBlock (https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom?hl=en-GB)?
Creer
August 15th, 2010, 06:24 AM
I love the new Hotmail, it's simple, it's fast and it's very convinient when you have Windows ID (all services are avaiable from one place.
Way to go MS.
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