View Full Version : IObit are at it again!
roger_m
July 3rd, 2010, 04:05 AM
As many users here will be aware, a while back IObit were found to be illegally using definitions from Malwarebyte's Antimalware.
There newest product which is still in beta is called IObit Toolbox
http://www.iobit.com/toolbox.html
The problem is that many of the included utilities copy very closely the design and functionality of equivalent utilities from TuneUp Utilities, as you will be able to see from the attached screen shots.
roger_m
July 3rd, 2010, 04:08 AM
There are also other parts of TuneUp Utilities which have also been copied, but I have not included screenshots of.
firzen771
July 3rd, 2010, 07:20 PM
just wow, those screenshots look almost identical to tuneup utilities, it seems these guys just dont know wen to quite...
funkydude
July 3rd, 2010, 08:05 PM
Imitation is the highest form of flattery ;D
littlebits
July 3rd, 2010, 08:19 PM
Wow!! A totally free version of TuneUp Utilities. ;D
I wonder how long this will last?
Thanks.:)
roger_m
July 3rd, 2010, 09:19 PM
-{ Quote: "Wow!! A totally free version of TuneUp Utilities. ;D
" }-
It's not as good as TuneUp, and also, you can get the 2007 version of TuneUp Utilities for free (however this version does not officially support Windows 7) ~ Link Removed as per Policy (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=53972) ~
andyman35
July 4th, 2010, 09:37 AM
It may be an unpopular opinion but actually this is a pretty decent product.;D
IOBit aren't the first and certainly won't be the last company to create a similar GUI to an established product.
firzen771
July 4th, 2010, 10:47 AM
-{ Quote: "It may be an unpopular opinion but actually this is a pretty decent product.;D
IOBit aren't the first and certainly won't be the last company to create a similar GUI to an established product." }-
but their history sure doesnt help them wen they do something like this.
andyman35
July 4th, 2010, 01:38 PM
-{ Quote: "but their history sure doesnt help them wen they do something like this." }-
Oh yeah of course the other business was shameful.However ignoring that,taken by itself this is a pretty decent utility.Personally I use WinUtils Pro (free at Softpedia),but if I was unaware of their history IOBit Toolbox would be a viable free option IMO.
J_L
July 4th, 2010, 03:34 PM
-{ Quote: "Oh yeah of course the other business was shameful.However ignoring that,taken by itself this is a pretty decent utility.Personally I use WinUtils Pro (free at Softpedia),but if I was unaware of their history IOBit Toolbox would be a viable free option IMO." }-
So you trust them cleaning your computer?
andyman35
July 4th, 2010, 04:58 PM
-{ Quote: "So you trust them cleaning your computer?" }-
Personally I'd not use anything from IOBit anymore on a point of principle,but as I said if I didn't know of their shady dealings it's a decent bit of software.They've got plenty of history with system utils,I used Advanced Windows/Systemcare for a long time with nothing untoward,but trust is everything if you're letting stuff delve into your system.
firzen771
July 4th, 2010, 10:27 PM
-{ Quote: "Personally I'd not use anything from IOBit anymore on a point of principle,but as I said if I didn't know of their shady dealings it's a decent bit of software.They've got plenty of history with system utils,I used Advanced Windows/Systemcare for a long time with nothing untoward,but trust is everything if you're letting stuff delve into your system." }-
i cant trust a company with my computer if they have immoral business practices, unless there has been a drastic change in the companies upper management (which doesnt seem to be so)
Triple Helix
July 4th, 2010, 10:32 PM
I said when they stole MBAM's siggy's that once a thief always a thief. >:( Very sad practice!
TH
DasFox
July 4th, 2010, 10:36 PM
-{ Quote: "I said when they stole MBAM's siggy's that once a thief always a thief. >:( Very sad practice!
TH" }-
Huh Malwarebytes?
What siggy where?
Personally I've never used apps like this, just junk imho...
The Hammer
July 4th, 2010, 10:49 PM
-{ Quote: "Huh Malwarebytes?
What siggy where?
Personally I've never used apps like this, just junk imho..." }-
Here is the answer to your questions.http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=257222&highlight=Malwarebytes+IObit
Noob
July 4th, 2010, 11:13 PM
Here we go again!! :D:D
Triple Helix
July 4th, 2010, 11:18 PM
-{ Quote: "Huh Malwarebytes?
What siggy where?
Personally I've never used apps like this, just junk imho..." }-
Also read the first line in the first post in this thread! ;)
TH
DasFox
July 5th, 2010, 12:20 AM
Pretty bad... :thumbd:
roger_m
July 7th, 2010, 10:35 PM
I've just post about it at the IObit forums http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?p=47522&posted=1#post47522
It will be interesting to hear what they have to say about it
abu shofwan
July 7th, 2010, 11:01 PM
one word :isay:
THIEF ! :thumbd: :thumbd: :thumbd:
YanK33
July 7th, 2010, 11:49 PM
-{ Quote: "Wow!! A totally free version of TuneUp Utilities. ;D
I wonder how long this will last?
Thanks.:)" }-
you think so? i have both and Tune Up is a complete suite and iObit is a semi-suite and Tune-Up have far more utilities and i believe more in them, iObit is ok and Tune-Up is the sweet spot lol
Dermot7
July 8th, 2010, 05:00 PM
-{ Quote: "I've just post about it at the IObit forums http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?p=47522&posted=1#post47522
It will be interesting to hear what they have to say about it" }-
They(IOBit) have no meaningful answer for testando. They cannot avoid the truth...."the truth will set you free" as testando says.They try to talk about "beautiful world" etc and divert the focus. They didn't just copy a GUI or something trivial, they STOLE a signature database. They lost all credibility. They seemingly aren't to be trusted, to me that seems obvious.
roger_m
July 9th, 2010, 01:05 PM
The thread I was posting to @ IObit forums has been closed (for no good reason). http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?t=7287&page=4
However, you can see my newest post on the matter here: http://forums.iobit.com/showthread.php?p=47610#post47610
roger_m
July 9th, 2010, 11:29 PM
Actually you can't see my last post @ the IObit forums anymore since they conveniently deleted it...
J_L
July 10th, 2010, 12:40 AM
-{ Quote: "Actually you can't see my last post @ the IObit forums anymore since they conveniently deleted it..." }-
It's still on Google cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:forums.iobit.com/showthread.php%3Fp%3D47610%23post47610
whitedragon551
July 10th, 2010, 01:17 AM
Wow, just wow. I cant even express this in words.
IIRC there were alot of people here who said oh they just "borrowed" MBAMs signature database and there was no real evidence. And now this with the google cache of your deleted post. They just make themselves look more shady each and every time they create a "new" old program for themselves.
Like I said when they stole MBAMs database. I will NEVER use an IOBit product again. Its a shame to because IOBit 360 was a nice program which is what got me started using them to begin with. What a coincidence it was the same program at the same time the MBAM issue was surfacing.
roger_m
July 10th, 2010, 02:36 AM
-{ Quote: "It's still on Google cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:forums.iobit.com/showthread.php%3Fp%3D47610%23post47610" }-
Thanks for the post. I just reposted it.
Technical
July 10th, 2010, 09:17 PM
Not an iObit product in my computer anymore.
IObit
July 13th, 2010, 11:29 PM
Hi all,
I’m Jessie who is handling public relations in IObit. I appreciate your attention to our latest free software, IObit Toolbox, which is still in beta. We appreciate any form of feedback regarding our software, good or bad. We have no problems with that, because all these help us to build better products, but we can't tolerate intentional slanders either.
For this issue, I officially claim we have not copied anything from TuneUp Utilities, neither functionalities nor the design. Many of these tools have already been a part of Advanced SystemCare since 2006, and all of them are developed by our company independently. Of course, there might be some similarities in the GUI and wording, because both the products use the " Office Style” and step-by-step Guide window. it's difficult to make the interface, product name and description different when the differents software have similar functions. IObit Toolbox is a suite of 26 tools but only a few ones have the similar looking.
However, since this has already become a concern for some users, we are open to make changes to the design and wording to reduce the similarities. Feel free to contact directly press@iobit.com
roger_m
July 14th, 2010, 12:13 AM
-{ Quote: "Hi all,
For this issue, I officially claim we have not copied anything from TuneUp Utilities, neither functionalities nor the design. Many of these tools have already been a part of Advanced SystemCare since 2006, and all of them are developed by our company independently. Of course, there might be some similarities in the GUI and wording, because both the products use the " Office Style” and step-by-step Guide window." }-
You are mistaken, according to one of Tim Xue's posts to me at your forum: "The truth is that some developers are not familiar with English, so they just used some word and sentence from Tuneup, and our project manager didn't notice that."
Perhaps, you should get your story straight before posting here.
roger_m
July 14th, 2010, 12:19 AM
-{ Quote: "it's difficult to make the interface, product name and description different when the differents software have similar functions." }-
Makers of other utility suites seem to have no problem at all in making products with a different user interface to TuneUp. Even your own company was able to do this with Advanced Windows/SystemCare.
In my opinion it would be better doing all you can do come up with a new release of IObit Toolbox with a different design, rather than desperately trying to defend your company's actions.
For the record, as I have stated at the IObit forums, the only problem I have with IObit Toolbox is the copied wording and user interfaces. If these were to be changed, I would have no issue at all with it.
whitedragon551
July 14th, 2010, 12:56 AM
-{ Quote: "
we have not copied anything from TuneUp Utilities, neither functionalities nor the design. " }-
How many times have you used that line?
xxJackxx
July 14th, 2010, 10:03 AM
I really don't think this thread would exist if they hadn't pulled the MBAM stunt. Really, you could post screen shots of just about any other utilities suite and they would look similar. I really think there are more important things going on in the world to complain about than to get outraged because yet one more company is making another me too set of useless PC utilities.
whitedragon551
July 14th, 2010, 10:51 AM
-{ Quote: "I really don't think this thread would exist if they hadn't pulled the MBAM stunt. Really, you could post screen shots of just about any other utilities suite and they would look similar. I really think there are more important things going on in the world to complain about than to get outraged because yet one more company is making another me too set of useless PC utilities." }-
Your exactly right. If they wouldnt have stolen MBAM's database we probably wouldnt think that they stole TUU interface.
Doraemon
July 14th, 2010, 02:02 PM
I'm not defending IObit with this post but have you ever put WinUtilities side by side with Glary Utilities? :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: If not, do it and tell me what you think! *puppy*
Also I have a question for IObit poster. What's the need of a Utilities-like app when you already have Advanced System Care? Isn't that doubling the product or overlapping functions? :wacko: :gack:
itsbroken
July 14th, 2010, 02:29 PM
Iobit Iobit what will u do next,
I used your software once , but not any more ,
Iobit acts like a child caught with its hand in the cookie jar , ( I did not do it wasn't me)
I used their software and was a member of their form , then the malware bites thing happened , i defended Iobit , fought in their defense, when i did ask too many Questions i was shot down and ran over by the mods, I protested i wanted to know the answers to my Questions, and was banned and my posts deleted , then iobit dose what it dose best cover up the mess and moves on,
for a company so useto damage control u you think they would make a image backup app , now i wounder who they could steal oops borrow that from lol
Not an iObit product in my computer anymore. and it they bought Microsoft i would go to unix ,
funkydude
July 14th, 2010, 02:29 PM
-{ Quote: "Your exactly right. If they wouldnt have stolen MBAM's database we probably wouldnt think that they stole TUU interface." }-
All about trust.
roger_m
July 14th, 2010, 09:23 PM
-{ Quote: "I really don't think this thread would exist if they hadn't pulled the MBAM stunt." }-
This is something complete different, but certainly with their past history it gives even less reason to trust IObit.
-{ Quote: "Really, you could post screen shots of just about any other utilities suite and they would look similar." }-
Yes, in some cases there will be similarities. However this is something different as it more than just a similarity - IObit have very clearly copied the user interface and wording from TuneUp.
Nick Rhodes
July 15th, 2010, 04:59 AM
I am not saying it has been copied (I don't know even know what the legal definition of what the definition of a copy is and what is'nt), but having looked at the screenshots the "Disk Doctor" and "Tuneup Disk Doctor" windows have many areas that are identical, the other screenshots do share elements of similarity, but no more so than I have seen between certain areas of other competing software products (e.g. the common block map used on a lot of defragmentation tools).
If you follow the MS GUI design guidelines and use common APIs and toolsets to develop UIs there are only limited ways to construction simple screens so that chances of similarities are high.
luffy
August 14th, 2010, 12:47 AM
I will stay away from IObit till 2012 (if I'm still alive, I will give it a try).
3GUSER
August 14th, 2010, 04:24 AM
-{ Quote: "I will stay away from IObit till 2012 (if I'm still alive, I will give it a try)." }-
;D ;D ;D ROFL ;D ;D ;D
As for the topic , I don't see anything bad here . They all copy from each other . Sometimes it is just more obvious than it should be but they all steal from each other , they steal ideas. Isn't Facebook also a stolen idea ?
whitedragon551
August 14th, 2010, 08:07 AM
Isnt it funny how the guy posting for IOBit got called out and doesnt respond here anymore? I find that ironic to say the least. Definitely seems fishy in my books.
korben
August 14th, 2010, 08:40 AM
Iobit? Never.
Technical
August 14th, 2010, 10:28 AM
No iObit in my computers anymore.
Lost credibility.
Second bad movement... We don't need more evidence.
MrBrian
September 17th, 2010, 09:32 PM
Check out WinFix module (http://maketecheasier.com/iobit-toolbox-windows-fixer/2010/08/31) vs FixWin (http://www.thewindowsclub.com/repair-fix-windows-7-vista-problems-with-fixwin-utility).
If anyone cares, v1.0 is available.
Mr.PC
September 19th, 2010, 08:06 AM
-{ Quote: "No IObit in my computers anymore.
Lost credibility.
Second bad movement...
We don't need more evidence." }-:thumb::thumb: :thumb:
After MBAM, TuneUp Utilities, and what's next?
IObit continues on the same slippery path...:thumbd:
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