Panda Cloud Antivirus Pro

[SweX]

I just saw that Panda's cloudantivirus.com website shows a new babe;)
http://www.cloudantivirus.com/en/

But I also saw that they now show a feature list comparing the Free and Pro version of PCAV http://www.cloudantivirus.com/en/download/cloud-antivirus/free

And it seems that the Pro includes Automatic & transparent Upgrades, Automatic USB vaccination as well as an Behavioral Analysis for running processes etc....

Thoughts....

[sg09]

Here come nagging screen..:-X
and behavioral analysis for pro only.:-[
God save Avast.:-*

[SweX]

Blog post about the Final version by Pbust
http://blog.cloudantivirus.com/2010/06/03/panda-cloud-antivirus-pro/

[sg09]

See what softpedia has to say
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Panda-Cloud-Antivirus-Features-Behavioral-Protection-143678.shtml

[sg09]

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[SweX]

$29 is a good price for the Pro version I think:thumb:, if one compare to the competitors like PrevX etc...

[sg09]

-{ Quote: "$29 is a good price for the Pro version I think:thumb:, if one compare to the competitors like PrevX etc..." }-
But I doubt if it will be that much effective as Prevx, it has SafeOnline.

[SweX]

Hmm.. yea that's true:).

But no one knows what features we will see in the future in the Pro version;)

[sg09]

Go for the 3 year plan...:argh:

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[sg09]

Btw, how is panda's support?

[SweX]

Quite Good I would say.

Even if I don't use PCAV yet, I do read the Panda forums.
And people seem to get the help they are looking for.;)

[Ibrad]

One of Panda's goals was not to make a bad nagging screen that drives you crazy. So if our feedback was put in like that (I am about to go install a Pro copy on two machines) the nag screen should not be that bad.

[clocks]

Can anyone post a pic of the nag screen, and tell how often it is shown?

[hawkeen]

We were using the free panda cloud antivirus in our non profit organization. I am working on a script to uninstall it immediately.

The bait/switch is annoying.

Hawk

[Ibrad]

Bait and switch of what? Our goal was a free antivirus and that has not changed! We did not remove anything from the free version we added stuff, they have to make money somehow because those servers and staff do not work for free. I see no bait and switch so please tell us why you say its a bait and switch?

[Victek123]

-{ Quote: "We were using the free panda cloud antivirus in our non profit organization. I am working on a script to uninstall it immediately.

The bait/switch is annoying.

Hawk" }-
.
Can you say more about what you mean by "bait/switch"?

[ESS474]

-{ Quote: "Ability to run alongside other AVs and Anti-Spyware. Can now be run alongside other security tools and scanners." }-

It works with others AVS ? :o

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Improved offline protection:- Default deactivation of Windows Autorun." }-

Only this one? I mean is it related with offline cache or deactivation of Windows Autorun only? ???

[hawkeen]

The free cloud antivirus that will be FREE and protect you...oh wait, it has a nag screen and advertising now. That is not free friends.

Also, please spare me your "they have to pay for servers blah blah". If they have to make money--don't market a free product.


bait = free cloud antivirus
switch = advertising and nag screen

It will be leaving our organization very soon.

Hawk

[progress]

-{ Quote: "Can anyone post a pic of the nag screen, and tell how often it is shown?" }-

I would like to see the nag screen too ::)

€ 29,95? No way ... I think € 19,95 would be acceptable, sorry Panda :-[

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Btw, how is panda's support?" }-

You'll find good support there. Ibrad is very helping guy. Even Pedro is also very much helping person. :)

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "It works with others AVS ? :o" }-

Yep it will work with other AV's ..It was already told to me by Pedro.

And its really good step taken by Panda Labs...

[buckslayr]

Does anybody know if the new PRO version has scheduled scans?

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "The free cloud antivirus that will be FREE and protect you...oh wait, it has a nag screen and advertising now. That is not free friends.

Also, please spare me your "they have to pay for servers blah blah". If they have to make money--don't market a free product.


bait = free cloud antivirus
switch = advertising and nag screen

It will be leaving our organization very soon.

Hawk" }-

Every free AV that is not made my Microsoft has a nag screen. Besides it's not like they took tons of stuff away and force you to get to the pro version for good protection. This is not bait and switch, bait and switch is giving away a free product with everything then taking 99% away to a pro version leaving the free version with 1% of what it use to have,

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "Does anybody know if the new PRO version has scheduled scans?" }-

I don't know about scheduled scans but it runs background scans when you are away from your machine.

[buckslayr]

Thanks. I'm going to give it a try. I'm guessing that the 1-year license is for one computer only?

[ESS474]

-{ Quote: "Yep it will work with other AV's ..It was already told to me by Pedro.

And its really good step taken by Panda Labs..." }-

Very good news mate!

Panda is very good against new malware, i will test it with my ESS. :)

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Every free AV that is not made my Microsoft has a nag screen. Besides it's not like they took tons of stuff away and force you to get to the pro version for good protection. This is not bait and switch, bait and switch is giving away a free product with everything then taking 99% away to a pro version leaving the free version with 1% of what it use to have," }-

Agree with you. Even Avast is showing Ads in their free & Paid version now.

BTW you can get Automatic USB vaccination by using Panda USB Vaccine, so you have everything except Behavioral analysis & Automatic & transparent upgrades...:)

So i guess there should be no problem in using free Panda Cloud AV.

[clocks]

Is the nag screen a pop-up, or a small banner within the GUI? Big difference in my book.

[Ibrad]

It's in the UI, I don't think anyone wanted it to be a popup when the UI was closed.

[hawkeen]

-{ Quote: "Every free AV that is not made my Microsoft has a nag screen. Besides it's not like they took tons of stuff away and force you to get to the pro version for good protection. This is not bait and switch, bait and switch is giving away a free product with everything then taking 99% away to a pro version leaving the free version with 1% of what it use to have," }-


You justify the nag / advertising screen by saying everyone does that. This is a red herring.

Why did panda wait until now to unleash the nag screen / advertising? Hmmm..I wonder if its because most people would have had nothing to do with it--hence the bait and switch.

Finally, you are biased by your association with panda and we will have to agree to disagree.

Hawk

[SweX]

Well if the Ad's is inside the GUI then it's not a HUGE GIANT PROBLEM IMO;)

[sg09]

@hawkeen, it's business dude. Accept the truth. Previously there was no nag screen because there was no paid version.

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "

Finally, you are biased by your association with panda and we will have to agree to disagree.

Hawk" }-

Just one last final note: I am no way blindly following and agreeing with everything Panda does. I share my own opinion with each post. I am sorry that you don't like the nag screen :(

[sg09]

-{ Quote: "Well if the Ad's is inside the GUI then it's not a HUGE GIANT PROBLEM IMO;)" }-
That's right, if it is like the one in Avast...

[progress]

-{ Quote: "Well if the Ad's is inside the GUI then it's not a HUGE GIANT PROBLEM IMO;)" }-

I can't find it, where is it? :doubt:

[Ibrad]

If I remember correctly an ad pops up if you try to use a feature that is not in the free version, I may be wrong though because I have not installed it yet but I think that is what happens.

[SweX]

-{ Quote: "I can't find it, where is it? :doubt:" }-


WOW that's even better:o

[AvinashR]

Regarding the ads, they are not really ads. If you try to activate automatic USB Vaccine or Behavioural Analysis then you get a popup that says this is only in pro. ads are very very rare... try to find them, it will be hard

The above information was provided by Pbust...:)

[clocks]

-{ Quote: "If I remember correctly an ad pops up if you try to use a feature that is not in the free version, I may be wrong though because I have not installed it yet but I think that is what happens." }-


That is really no big deal at all then. Or even if it is like Avasts or AVG, that is fine. I don't like separate windows like Avira uses. (And yes I am aware there are hacks to block it)

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Only this one? I mean is it related with offline cache or deactivation of Windows Autorun only? ???" }-
with deactivation of autorun. We have included this by default so that it has more protection even if offline.

-{ Quote: "I would like to see the nag screen too " }-
You're going to have a hard time seeing it as it is seriously non-intrusive. Its more of a notification (when you try to activate a pro-only feature).

-{ Quote: "Thanks. I'm going to give it a try. I'm guessing that the 1-year license is for one computer only?" }-
Correct.

-{ Quote: "Why did panda wait until now to unleash the nag screen / advertising? Hmmm..I wonder if its because most people would have had nothing to do with it--hence the bait and switch." }-
Actually we've been very up-front since last year that there was going to be a pro version. And the majority of the new features have gone into the free version as well, so we've developed the free version much more than pro.
Anyway, have *you* seen any ads in PCAV 1.1? Like I said above you're going to have a hard time finding them because they are more like notifications and hard to find.

[Edwin024]

A real shame that price tag... almost 30 dollars is too much. You then can better get G-Data or so. A cloud Av that really hasn't made the mark, just like all other cloud based software by the way.

I guess Panda wants to stay under the Titanium from Trend Micro, but I don't want to use that cloud AV either due to the price. What a pity.

[Blackcat]

-{ Quote: "Well if the Ad's is inside the GUI then it's not a HUGE GIANT PROBLEM IMO;)" }-
Fairly discreet in the main Window.

-{ Quote: " If you try to activate automatic USB Vaccine or Behavioural Analysis then you get a popup that says this is only in pro. ads are very very rare... try to find them, it will be hard" }-

[SweX]

-{ Quote: "Regarding the ads, they are not really ads. If you try to activate automatic USB Vaccine or Behavioural Analysis then you get a popup that says this is only in pro. ads are very very rare... try to find them, it will be hard

The above information was provided by Pbust...:)" }-

Then it's even easier, if you ARE going to use the Free version then just let go of the Pro feature buttons inside the GUI and you should be fine I think!

[Blackcat]

-{ Quote: "A real shame that price tag... almost 30 dollars is too much. " }-
Then go with the free version in a layered defense ;)

IMHO, the quality of the free AV software available nowadays makes any commercial AV seem too expensive.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "with deactivation of autorun. We have included this by default so that it has more protection even if offline.
" }-

Deactivation of autorun can be achieved by USB Vaccine, i guess. Please correct if i am wrong.

So can you please let us know whether you still save some offline cache in customers PC in order to protect it even if he/she was in offline mode?

[progress]

-{ Quote: "Fairly discreet in the main Window." }-

I think this little "nag screen" is no problem at all :)

[RejZoR]

No behavior analysis. That's a bummer... at least i hope others get use of those who have it by getting feed by "auto signatures" "made" by those clients.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "I think this little "nag screen" is no problem at all :)" }-

Yep its not a problem for me atleast...

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "No behavior analysis. That's a bummer... at least i hope others get use of those who have it by getting feed by "auto signatures" "made" by those clients." }-

Atleast we have Behavior Blocking in it...And it can now be used/run alongside with other security softwares and scanners, so i guess its really a plus point...:)

[clocks]

-{ Quote: "Yep its not a problem for me atleast..." }-

No, this is probably the best, least intrusive way they could have done this.

:thumb: to Panda

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "No, this is probably the best, least intrusive way they could have done this.

:thumb: to Panda" }-

Exactly, this what i meant too. :D

[progress]

-{ Quote: "No behavior analysis. That's a bummer..." }-

... but it includes behaviour blocking - I guess it's like the avast BB :)

[SweX]

Yes Indeed:D

[Ibrad]

For those of you who want more info on the behavior blocker here is the link to a post on the PCAV blog about the rules used in the behavior blocker: http://blog.cloudantivirus.com/2010/06/03/behavioral-blocking-rules/

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "... but it includes behaviour blocking - I guess it's like the avast BB :)" }-

Behavioural Blocking :- Proactive, signature-less, protection against malicious actions typically used by malware. Generic blocking of malicious PDF/DOC/XLS/PPT/WMV/etc. droppers. Compatible with both 32 and 64bit Operating Systems.

Behavioural Analysis (PRO only):- Runtime analysis and blocking of running processes. Compatible with 32bits Operating Systems as well as for 32bit processes under 64bit systems.

Yep its like the same...

[clocks]

-{ Quote: "Exactly, this what i meant too. :D" }-

Yes AvinashR, sorry if I wasn't clear. I am in total agreement with you, and like how Panda did their "nag screen". I have seen much worse, and people really can't complain about this.

[J_L]

-{ Quote: "You justify the nag / advertising screen by saying everyone does that. This is a red herring.

Why did panda wait until now to unleash the nag screen / advertising? Hmmm..I wonder if its because most people would have had nothing to do with it--hence the bait and switch.

Finally, you are biased by your association with panda and we will have to agree to disagree.

Hawk" }-
Good luck finding an effective free AV that matches your criteria ::)
"Bait and Switch" is nothing compared to being infected.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Good luck finding an effective free AV that matches your criteria ::)
"Bait and Switch" is nothing compared to being infected." }-

I am sure he'll soon realize this...We can't expect more than this from Panda Labs, they have produced such a wonderful free product with "No Ads", i must say... I can bet upon this that you won't get such a deal anywhere else...

:) :thumb: :thumb: For Panda Labs

[progress]

-{ Quote: "
:) :thumb: :thumb: For Panda Labs" }-

:thumb: :-* :D For Panda Labs!

[sg09]

-{ Quote: "Atleast we have Behavior Blocking in it...And it can now be used/run alongside with other security softwares and scanners, so i guess its really a plus point...:)" }-

+1 :thumb:

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: ":thumb: :-* :D For Panda Labs!" }-

Kiss for Pedro or ....for some sweet lady there? :P

Just kidding !! BTW does anybody tested it? I can't test it because of unavailability of HDD ..:'(

[progress]

-{ Quote: "Kiss for Pedro or ....for some sweet lady there? :P
" }-

No, it's for Ibrad :D :D

[SweX]

Haha;D

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "No, it's for Ibrad :D :D" }-

Oops, lucky Pedro ...:D ;D

BTW any information regarding CPU & RAM usgae?

[SweX]

-{ Quote: "Oops, lucky Pedro ...:D ;D

BTW any information regarding CPU & RAM usage?" }-

Yes please I would like to know that to;)

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Yes please I would like to know that to;)" }-

I am eagerly waiting for these information. Today i am totally depend upon you guys. I really want to know how strong is the BB against 0day malwares?

[progress]

-{ Quote: "I really want to know how strong is the BB against 0day malwares?" }-

I assume we will get some tests soon from AvinashR Labs? :)

[SourMilk]

First, nice work Panda. I really enjoy using the cloud antivirus.
Second, I find the nag screens for the free edition quite tolerable knowing that they only show if I choose a Pro only attribute.
Third, I've switched from a major antivirus to run Panda cloud as my primary - I think it is that good.
Congratulations Panda for the hard work and great product.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "I assume we will get some tests soon from AvinashR Labs? :)" }-

AvinashR Labs is down these days. No HDD in my main system. Running my system without HardDrive. Even i was not well too..But soon AvinashR lab will be up !!

Even i was not able to writeup many of my pending reviews. :(

[taleblou]

Hi:

You say every free product has ad and this is not true. Look at Comodo IS perimum for example it has no nag screen or ads. and no difference between free and pro except live support. Now this is how free products should be. By the way by using the highest and optimum setting the CIS perimum it has out performed all the security products I have tested before. Heck its the only security product I am using on my family pcs and works great.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Hi:

You say every free product has ad and this is not true. Look at Comodo IS perimum for example it has no nag screen or ads. and no difference between free and pro except live support. Now this is how free products should be. By the way by using the highest and optimum setting the CIS perimum it has out performed all the security products I have tested before. Heck its the only security product I am using on my family pcs and works great." }-

How about HopSurf Toolbar?:P

[progress]

-{ Quote: "How about HopSurf Toolbar?:P" }-

It's free too :D

[lordraiden]

-{ Quote: "Hi:

You say every free product has ad and this is not true. Look at Comodo IS perimum for example it has no nag screen or ads. and no difference between free and pro except live support. Now this is how free products should be. By the way by using the highest and optimum setting the CIS perimum it has out performed all the security products I have tested before. Heck its the only security product I am using on my family pcs and works great." }-

Comodo AV is the worst free AV that you can find, but anyway using sandbox and D+ you probably dont need any AV.

BTW Comodo IS is not the main business of Comodo Ltd this is why they dont need to sell licences to live, I think that this is why they dont try hard to sell you any product.

-{ Quote: "How about HopSurf Toolbar?" }-

HopSurf Tool bar has been removed from the latest version of Comodo.
- Removed HopSurf & Ask Toolbar
- Removed LivePCSupport
- CIS "Free" is now renamed to CIS "Premium" (Yes, it's still free!)

[sg09]

Running good with Bullguard IS, No restart needed. Registered with Action Center. Very low in resource. Tested in real system. Windows 7 32bit.

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Cheers to Panda.:-*

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "It's free too :D" }-

Free ad i must say...

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Comodo AV is the worst free AV that you can find, but anyway using sandbox and D+ you probably dont need any AV.

BTW Comodo IS is not the main business of Comodo Ltd this is why they dont need to sell licences to live, I think that this is why they dont try hard to sell you any product.



HopSurf Tool bar has been removed from the latest version of Comodo.
- Removed HopSurf & Ask Toolbar
- Removed LivePCSupport
- CIS "Free" is now renamed to CIS "Premium" (Yes, it's still free!)" }-

That's a nice move. So i guess now its completely ad free product...Please correct me if i am wrong.

[lordraiden]

Now is completely free but you still can pay for it and they add live support and other things:
http://www.comodo.com/home/internet-security/security-software.php

# TrustConnect™ Wi-Fi Data Encryption
# Remote Security & System Support

warranty: https://accounts.comodo.com/cfp/management/terms

THE LIMITED GUARANTEE IS ONLY AVAILABLE TO YOU IF YOU ARE A RESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES AND HAVE PURCHASED A VERSION OF THE SOFTWARE THAT INCLUDES
THE GUARANTEE.

The guarantee is non-transferrable, and can only be used by the original
purchaser of the Software.

3.2. Limits.
The guarantee is limited to the lesser of
(i) The actual cost of the computer;
(ii) An aggregate total of $500 for all claims paid under a single license key, and
(iii) The actual cost of a Comodo specified and authorized third party provider to repair the
computer to an operating condition (“Guarantee Limit”).
The guarantee is limited to repairing the computer over the Internet to an operational state
and excludes all claims for lost or expected profits, lost or corrupted data, lost or deleted
work, or lost or damaged personal files. Comodo does not guarantee against the loss of any
file or information. The guarantee is void if you breached this agreement, failed to follow the
procedures described in this Section 3, or failed to pay any fees applicable to your use of the
Software.


But let's come back to the topic xD

[sg09]

Anyone saw the resource usage? (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1688621&postcount=75)

[RejZoR]

To be honest i don't quite understond how they separate behavior blocking and behavior analysis. Only way of making this logical would be like this:

Behavior Blocking:
Panda is blocking for example PDF files from doing anything but being opened.
Considering PDF's shouldn't have access to system stuff anyway. Similar should be for other files that are harmless by themself but don't require system access either.

Behavior Analysis:
Panda is analyzing what PDF file is doing and is later on blocking anything bad being done by it in the chain of events (ie PDF file exploiting a security hole and then downloading EXE from net and executing it).

Just a rough prediction but i hope pbust will explain this a bit.

[progress]

lordraiden, this is a Panda thread :-[

[ESS474]

Until now nothing of conflict with my ESET, really good thanks Panda. :thumb:

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "lordraiden, this is a Panda thread :-[" }-

LOL ..he's just clearing up the things. Sorry from his side, because probably i have started this thing...Sorry Guys !!:)

[progress]

-{ Quote: "To be honest i don't quite understond how they separate behavior blocking and behavior analysis." }-

Here (http://research.pandasecurity.com/how-truprevent-works-i/) you are :)

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "To be honest i don't quite understond how they separate behavior blocking and behavior analysis. Only way of making this logical would be like this:

Behavior Blocking:
Panda is blocking for example PDF files from doing anything but being opened.
Considering PDF's shouldn't have access to system stuff anyway. Similar should be for other files that are harmless by themself but don't require system access either.

Behavior Analysis:
Panda is analyzing what PDF file is doing and is later on blocking anything bad being done by it in the chain of events (ie PDF file exploiting a security hole and then downloading EXE from net and executing it).

Just a rough prediction but i hope pbust will explain this a bit." }-

IMO your rough prediction is absolutely correct !! Even this what i have assumed too. Behavior Blocking is something when we try to execute a file and then it comes into action and block a file if it was found malicious.

Whereas if a file start doing its malicious activities after sometime then probably Behavior Analysis will come into action...

[Blackcat]

-{ Quote: " Anyone saw the resource usage?" }-

But it's the PSANHost.exe you need to keep an eye on for sucking up resources ;)

[Durad]

Does it have BAD SITE blocking feature?

Is it compatible with other antivirus programs?

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Does it have BAD SITE blocking feature?

Is it compatible with other antivirus programs?" }-

It is compatible with other AV solutions. About BAD SITE blocking, i am afraid if it was there. But i am sure that it will be soon included in upcoming release. :)

[clocks]

Regarding resource usage(for the free version), ram for the two processes is about 12-14meg. CPU and disk read/writes seem middle of the road in comparison to other AVs I have tried. Not as light as some, not as bad as a few others.

Overall, I am not sure this AV is as light as they portray it to be, but it is not heavy either. I would consider it middle of the road.

[sg09]

Just got a behavioral blocking warning Rule 5007 (http://blog.cloudantivirus.com/2010/06/03/behavioral-blocking-rules/)

-{ Quote: "Rule 5007: During normal behaviour Windows Media Player shouldn’t need to execute files. So if you receive an alert, some kind of vulnerability is being exploited." }-

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Just got a behavioral blocking warning Rule 5007 (http://blog.cloudantivirus.com/2010/06/03/behavioral-blocking-rules/)" }-

Anything exploited or just got a fp warning?

[buddee]

panda team has done the tremendous job, thumbs up and congs, i really like their idea of pro version at least they are paying some respect for their paid customer :D, Pro version is good for laptops with some free firewall its complete peace of mind. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: 5 thumbs to panda team

[sg09]

-{ Quote: "Anything exploited or just got a fp warning?" }-
I guess some exploit, as WMP was running.:o According to them WMP tried to execute something.:wacko:

[buddee]

can any 1 tell how re-do detection works coz i have unlocked some suspicious files and they are not detected again by PCA, now those files are deteced Trj.CI/A on virus total and my other machine running pis 2010

[pbust]

Once you've restored something from the Recycle Bin's history report, the "undo" arrow icon changes and turns into a "re-do" icon, with gets it detected again.
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[clocks]

This program has come a long way since the beta builds from a year ago.

Good work Panda! :thumb:

[trjam]

Great job Panda, and may be at the top in detection to.;)

[Matthijs5nl]

A few things I would like to say:

1. People complaining about the ad are people who really need to get some help from a doctor. It is the most not-annoying ad of all (except for MSE ofcourse). It is just 1 line of text in the main windows. Or a popup when you click on a not enabled function. The business model Panda now has with Cloud Free and Cloud Pro proofs they are fully focusing on this product, and not just on the Antivirus Pro and the Suite.
2. I am really staggered by the resource usage, here PSUNMain.exe*32 (the only visible Cloud process) is using around 1.5MB of RAM, where my normal antivirus ESET NOD32 uses 48MB of RAM.
(I am not saying I will certainly be a Panda Cloud user, because I am a fan of ESET NOD32, but if ESET 5 doesn't come with great new features I will certainly stop using ESET and Panda Cloud then has to best papers (total list of candidates: Panda Cloud [Free/Pro], AVG Free 10, Microsoft Security Essentials and Norton AntiVirus). The free one, since I find 29.95 too expensive for the extra features you get, although if I become a fan I might buy it because that is why I am paying for ESET at this moment.)
3. In line with the between brackets part of the above. I think now Panda Cloud really becomes THE free antivirus. With 1.0 it was one of the freebies, now it is THE freebie in my opinion. Simplicity and powerfull.
4. I am glad to see it looks like this version also solved some of the false positive problems it suffered from, atleast at my pc it has.

So, in a nutshell: thumbs up to Panda for a great product, and a good business model behind it: it is really rare to see that moving from free only to free/paid doesn't disadvantage the users.:thumb:

[clocks]

-{ Quote: "A few things I would like to say:
2. I am really staggered by the resource usage, here PSUNMain.exe*32 (the only visible Cloud process) is using around 1.5MB of RAM, where my normal antivirus ESET NOD32 uses 48MB of RAM.
" }-

You have to consider both processes. One is small, the second is usually about 10-12 meg.

Still not bad, but believe me this program uses more that 1.5meg of ram.

BTW - NOD is a little bloated when it comes to RAM use IMO.

[ESS474]

-{ Quote: "A few things I would like to say:

1. People complaining about the ad are people who really need to get some help from a doctor. It is the most not-annoying ad of all (except for MSE ofcourse). It is just 1 line of text in the main windows. Or a popup when you click on a not enabled function. The business model Panda now has with Cloud Free and Cloud Pro proofs they are fully focusing on this product, and not just on the Antivirus Pro and the Suite.
2. I am really staggered by the resource usage, here PSUNMain.exe*32 (the only visible Cloud process) is using around 1.5MB of RAM, where my normal antivirus ESET NOD32 uses 48MB of RAM.
(I am not saying I will certainly be a Panda Cloud user, because I am a fan of ESET NOD32, but if ESET 5 doesn't come with great new features I will certainly stop using ESET and Panda Cloud then has to best papers (total list of candidates: Panda Cloud [Free/Pro], AVG Free 10, Microsoft Security Essentials and Norton AntiVirus). The free one, since I find 29.95 too expensive for the extra features you get, although if I become a fan I might buy it because that is why I am paying for ESET at this moment.)
3. In line with the between brackets part of the above. I think now Panda Cloud really becomes THE free antivirus. With 1.0 it was one of the freebies, now it is THE freebie in my opinion. Simplicity and powerfull.
4. I am glad to see it looks like this version also solved some of the false positive problems it suffered from, atleast at my pc it has.

So, in a nutshell: thumbs up to Panda for a great product, and a good business model behind it: it is really rare to see that moving from free only to free/paid doesn't disadvantage the users.:thumb:" }-

You can use NOD32 and Panda in real time because Panda Cloud now is working with others AVS (style Prevx) very light here i recommend.

[Ibrad]

Installed it on my machine and it working fine and stable, now I am downloading it on my family's machine...I really don't want anything to go wrong there :-\

Update: Installed without issues!

[Brocke]

Will the free version tell use when to download the updated version from the internet?

[Ibrad]

The free version will alert you when a new update is out but will not automatically install it.

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Will the free version tell use when to download the updated version from the internet?" }-
Yes of course. You'll get a little traybar notification window telling you there's a new version and a link to download it. Once you download and run it, it will upgrade the previous version by itself without you having to uninstall the previous one manually.

We're trying to make PCAV as much as a killer app as possible, but needed to leave a little something for the pro. So in the pro you don't even get the traybar upgrade notification, it upgrades 100% transparently and only tells you when its finished upgrading to the new version... no more downloading new versions with the pro.

[Brocke]

-{ Quote: "Yes of course. You'll get a little traybar notification window telling you there's a new version and a link to download it. Once you download and run it, it will upgrade the previous version by itself without you having to uninstall the previous one manually.

We're trying to make PCAV as much as a killer app as possible, but needed to leave a little something for the pro. So in the pro you don't even get the traybar upgrade notification, it upgrades 100% transparently and only tells you when its finished upgrading to the new version... no more downloading new versions with the pro." }-


thanks i dont really have an issue downloading the newer versions. will there be other features added to the next free version or will the remaining only be for the PRO version?

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "thanks i dont really have an issue downloading the newer versions. will there be other features added to the next free version or will the remaining only be for the PRO version?" }-
The model we are trying to follow is to add as much AV technology as possible to the free while keeping the same simplicity, non-performance impact and non-bloat approach that it has always had.

[J_L]

Great job, love the freeware. Would definitely keep using it if not for Avast Free and its password protected settings.

[buckslayr]

The freeware is awesome. Does the PRO version justify spending the money?

[clocks]

-{ Quote: "The freeware is awesome. Does the PRO version justify spending the money?" }-


Careful. If everyone says no, then the free version will change to make the Pro more attractive. lol

[buckslayr]

-{ Quote: "Careful. If everyone says no, then the free version will change to make the Pro more attractive. lol" }-

Got my answer. Thanks.

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "The freeware is awesome. Does the PRO version justify spending the money?" }-

Simple answer...yes if you are the type of person who prefers to not have to worry about making your USB drives immune, updating you av, and want behavior analysis.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Simple answer...yes if you are the type of person who prefers to not have to worry about making your USB drives immune, updating you av, and want behavior analysis." }-

BTW a user can use Panda USB Vaccine (free) to make his/her USB drives immune. :)

[progress]

-{ Quote: "since I find 29.95 too expensive for the extra features you get" }-

I think € 19.95 would be acceptable :)

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "I think € 19.95 would be acceptable :)" }-

We can only suggest them ...:)

[Brocke]

id like to see a lifetime key that would be nice. id pay for that.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "id like to see a lifetime key that would be nice. id pay for that." }-

A lifetime license key would be highly appreciable :D

Hope they'll come up with this option too...:D

[progress]

-{ Quote: "id like to see a lifetime key that would be nice. id pay for that." }-

I agree, maybe they should change the 3-years-key to a lifetime-key :)

[Brocke]

-{ Quote: "I agree, maybe they should change the 3-years-key to a lifetime-key :)" }-


i agree, i will buy that if thats the case. i like this product but hate paying yearly fees.


PBUST: i hope ur listening ;)

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "i agree, i will buy that if thats the case. i like this product but hate paying yearly fees.


PBUST: i hope ur listening ;)" }-

Probably he's sleeping right now :) !!

[sg09]

@BlackCat: Where can I find this type of info (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1688648&postcount=86)? Are u using some 3party soft?

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "i agree, i will buy that if thats the case. i like this product but hate paying yearly fees.


PBUST: i hope ur listening ;)" }-
I will pass the suggestion on to the team that handles that... what kinda of price would you pay for a lifetime license?

[Edwin024]

I find 30 euros a nice price for such a license.

[EliteKiller]

-{ Quote: "I will pass the suggestion on to the team that handles that... what kinda of price would you pay for a lifetime license?" }-
3-user lifetime @ $100 USD seems fair. ;D

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "3-user lifetime @ $100 USD seems fair. ;D" }-

Seems fair !! But in India, people won't pay that much amount..Because here USD 1 = Rs 48 :(

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "I will pass the suggestion on to the team that handles that... what kinda of price would you pay for a lifetime license?" }-

BTW you can also suggest them to introduce 5 Year license option ...Ikarus Utilities is also offering 5 year license key to their customers @ Price (excl. VAT/sales tax) $ 82 or € 68

[lordraiden]

Yes, I think that "it's hard" to pay 30€ only for 1 year.
And also the idea of give 2 or 3 license is very good, sice a lot of people have more than 1 computer at home.

[mike21]

I also agree with Blackcat, lordraiden and others. The price is on the very high side. At least with 30 euros, offer a second year for free or second PC for free. I do not know what other users think, but I won't give this money for a relatively new product UNLESS its perfect. At the moment I am trying the very competitive avast! Internet Security, which costs 60 USD (not euro) for 3 PCs for 2 years.

[buddee]

Pedro thx for the information , and if some files are deleted from recycle bin then how can we re do detection.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "I also agree with Blackcat, lordraiden and others. The price is on the very high side. At least with 30 euros, offer a second year for free or second PC for free. I do not know what other users think, but I won't give this money for a relatively new product UNLESS its perfect. At the moment I am trying the very competitive avast! Internet Security, which costs 60 USD (not euro) for 3 PCs for 2 years." }-

BTW its not € 30, its US $29.95 for 1 year. :)

[trjam]

and worth every penny of it. This is truly a great product.:thumb:

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "and worth every penny of it. This is truly a great product.:thumb:" }-

I guess you have purchased it ...:P

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "I guess you have purchased it ...:P" }-

why not, I have to admit it is very cool and the detection rates are outstanding. It really is a great deal.

glad u feel better.

[The Hammer]

-{ Quote: "I guess you have purchased it ...:P" }-
You had to ask?;) ;D

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "You had to ask?;) ;D" }-

I am sorry, i didn't get you..::)

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "why not, I have to admit it is very cool and the detection rates are outstanding. It really is a great deal.

glad u feel better." }-

Feeling Better? What happened to me? ::)

[trjam]

thought u had been sick.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "thought u had been sick." }-

Yep you are right !! BTW thanks for asking. Feeling well today..

Anyways have you tested it?

[The Hammer]

-{ Quote: "I am sorry, i didn't get you..::)" }-
Read post 130 again. Of course he purchased it.;D

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Read post 130 again. Of course he purchased it.;D" }-

Its just the another way of question...:D

[PC__Gamer]

Some people know I've tested panda cloud since the very first beta, and I do like the product and its simplicity.

However, am I the only one who thinks there isn't much difference between free and paid to be worth a purchase?

[mike21]

-{ Quote: "BTW its not € 30, its US $29.95 for 1 year. :)" }-
I didn't know. I based my comment on the first post of this page.

[mike21]

btw, Panda Internet Security is 48 euros per year for a single PC. :o :o :o

[Tony]

-{ Quote: "BTW its not € 30, its US $29.95 for 1 year. :)" }-


That depends on your region.
Here in the UK it is £ 24.99
In the Eurozone, France for example it is € 29,95.

Great product but more than i would be willing to pay for a yearly license.

[SweX]

Just a thought,

Usually one pays FULL price the first time you purchase the product and then the year(s) after you get a discount from the full price.

Like, first year you pay $29,95 and after 12 months when it's time to re-new the license you might just pay $15?

Is this a good plan or is the price still to high;D

[icr]

-{ Quote: "Some people know I've tested panda cloud since the very first beta, and I do like the product and its simplicity.

However, am I the only one who thinks there isn't much difference between free and paid to be worth a purchase?" }-

Only if you are thinking of having a Behavior Analysis. Other than that there isn't much of a difference:)

[Matthijs5nl]

-{ Quote: "You can use NOD32 and Panda in real time because Panda Cloud now is working with others AVS (style Prevx) very light here i recommend." }-
I tried it, it doesn't work. It slows my system down a lot (although my pc is really fast), although I added both to eachother exclusions. It might not conflict anymore with other av's but that doesn't mean they work nice together.

EDIT: Resource usage is here about 11MB.

[lordraiden]

I have notice that every time that I open an application (firefox, opera) PSANHost.exe eats the 30% of my CPU (Core2Duo 2.4) even if I open the same application just after (3 or 4 times) I have still the same problem.
Can anybody else check the CPU use by PSANHost.exe?

[clocks]

-{ Quote: "I have notice that every time that I open an application (firefox, opera) PSANHost.exe eats the 30% of my CPU (Core2Duo 2.4) even if I open the same application just after (3 or 4 times) I have still the same problem.
Can anybody else check the CPU use by PSANHost.exe?" }-

I have noticed similar CPU issues with all the builds prior to this one. I have not yet tested this build to if if that has continued.

[DavidCo]

Have you guys done the full scan before using CAV?

[gazs1]

have just installed and i quite like it, but am running an on demand scan at the mo and its painfully slow.

2 hrs and counting and its only on 43%

[lordraiden]

-{ Quote: "Have you guys done the full scan before using CAV?" }-
I did the optimice scan, anyway if I open firefox (panda already scans the files so apparently dont need to do it again) and the panda process use 30% of th CPU and then I close it and I opent it again I have the same problem, and I close it ... the same with opera or many other applications.

[clocks]

-{ Quote: "Have you guys done the full scan before using CAV?" }-

All the feedback I got said to install the program, let your PC sit for an hour or so, and then by that time PCAV has done it's "getting to know your PC" routine. I usually run the "optimized scan" also for good measure.

[DavidCo]

It's just that I remember that the optimise scan did not stop the background scan for me, but after I did a full scan everything was ok.

[clocks]

I know some AVs, like AVG, suggested a special scan during install to alleviate future scan times, resource usage, etc.. If this is something that helps Panda to be efficient, the developers should consider making such an option as part of the install routine.

[lordraiden]

They at least should inform the people about this during the installation.

[SweX]

First YouTube test I found of PCAV 1.1:)

Made by Languy99
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfGWnuzdYk8-

But he says in the video that the links he uses might be rather old or very new.
And he has been using the same links for the past 3 reviews he has done hmm...

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "They at least should inform the people about this during the installation." }-

BTW i don't why you guys want full scan after the installation...Background scan will do this job when you'll finish your installation and during system idle time...

[intrepid44]

-{ Quote: "First YouTube test I found of PCAV 1.1:)

Made by Languy99
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfGWnuzdYk8-

But he says in the video that the links he uses might be rather old or very new.
And he has been using the same links for the past 3 reviews he has done hmm..." }-
Languys test are getting to be a joke, Panda does great, malwarebytes finds nothing, then hitman pro finds nothing.. he cant settle for panda is good so he says he used bad links what a joke.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Languys test are getting to be a joke, Panda does great, malwarebytes finds nothing, then hitman pro finds nothing.. he cant settle for panda is good so he says he used bad links what a joke." }-

Have you tried yourself? I guess something has passed in that video...BTW even Pedro will accept that its really hard to protect user from 0day infection. No security suite will provide you 100% protection whether it is based cloud protection or signature based ....

[SweX]

But I have to agree that why would he even test if he knew that the links had been used in the 2 earlier reviews, it doesn't make justice to the product, not for Panda or any other product. New test = New links!

[intrepid44]

-{ Quote: "Have you tried yourself? I guess something has passed in that video...BTW even Pedro will accept that its really hard to protect user from 0day infection. No security suite will provide you 100% protection whether it is based cloud protection or signature based ...." }-
Yes I use panda look at my sig, I know nothing is 100% but from the outset languy was sure panda was going to fail let him make a new vid with new links. If that was comodo he tested with those links nothing would have been said about using bad links I bet.

[intrepid44]

-{ Quote: "But I have to agree that why would he even test if he knew that the links had been used in the 2 earlier reviews, it doesn't make justice to the product, not for Panda or any other product. New test = New links!" }-
I to would like to see a new test with good links and see how panda fares, If it does good then great. No excuses why it did good then.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Yes I use panda look at my sig, I know nothing is 100% but from the outset languy was sure panda was going to fail let him make a new vid with new links. If that was comodo he tested with those links nothing would have been said about using bad links I bet." }-

Sorry, I Didn't get you !!

[Ibrad]

Yes Intrepid44 uses PCAV he is another one of the forum mods ;D

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "have just installed and i quite like it, but am running an on demand scan at the mo and its painfully slow.

2 hrs and counting and its only on 43%" }-
Is this the first scan after installation? Remember that the first scan is normally slower than subsequent scans, which should improve up to 90% in speed.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Yes Intrepid44 uses PCAV he is another one of the forum mods ;D" }-

Ops i didn't saw his signatures !! Sorry Bro Intrepid:)

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "I know some AVs, like AVG, suggested a special scan during install to alleviate future scan times, resource usage, etc.. If this is something that helps Panda to be efficient, the developers should consider making such an option as part of the install routine." }-
In 1.1 we've re-introduced the original BackgroundScan after install but with a much less intrusive configuration. If you just sit back with procexp or procmon you will see it, but it will only scan during PC idle times.

[intrepid44]

-{ Quote: "Ops i didn't saw his signatures !! Sorry Bro Intrepid:)" }-
Its all ok, I do not usualyy post here much, only when I see something that just is not right like languys vid.::)

[clocks]

-{ Quote: "In 1.1 we've re-introduced the original BackgroundScan after install but with a much less intrusive configuration. If you just sit back with procexp or procmon you will see it, but it will only scan during PC idle times." }-


Thanks pbust. I will check it out. I installed it on a 64bit Win7 machine yesterday when I went home for lunch, and I let it idle(after completing the optimize scan) and didnt notice much CPU use, which is a departure from what I have seen in the past. I wasn't sure if it was because this is a higher end quadcore 8gb pc, whereas in the past I tried it on a dual core 2gb PCs. Or if it was because of improvements made to the program itself. I will look at it more this weekend, and see if the CPU use is still high for me, or if I see an improvement. Thanks again for your help with this very solid program.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Its all ok, I do not usualyy post here much, only when I see something that just is not right like languys vid.::)" }-

I understand your concern !! But may be he done this unintentionally!! Anyways i agree that it should be fair review every time without any partiality.

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "I to would like to see a new test with good links and see how panda fares, If it does good then great. No excuses why it did good then." }-
I agree.

[Technic]

Great news!

Waiting special offer for Wilders members. :argh:

[gazs1]

i turn my wireless router off and panda cloud still reports it is connected to the internet??? i use defensewall 301 and i can not find panda anywhere in the logs so i aint got a clue if im connected to the cloud or not??? ???

[Ibrad]

Panda checks every x min's (15 I think, don't know for sure) to see if it's connected to the internet. We also got a cloud test tool so you can see if you are connected: http://www.cloudantivirus.com/forum/thread.jspa?threadID=52662&tstart=0

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "i turn my wireless router off and panda cloud still reports it is connected to the internet??? i use defensewall 301 and i can not find panda anywhere in the logs so i aint got a clue if im connected to the cloud or not??? ???" }-
Maybe it has its own dial-up connection.:) :o

[gazs1]

-{ Quote: "Panda checks every x min's (15 I think, don't know for sure) to see if it's connected to the internet. We also got a cloud test tool so you can see if you are connected: http://www.cloudantivirus.com/forum/thread.jspa?threadID=52662&tstart=0" }-

thankyou it detected it so i guess im ok;D

[progress]

-{ Quote: "I will pass the suggestion on to the team that handles that... what kinda of price would you pay for a lifetime license?" }-

3 years should be changed to lifetime: € 65,95 :)

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "3 years should be changed to lifetime: € 65,95 :)" }-

Different people, Different quotations !! :D

[progress]

-{ Quote: "Different people, Different quotations !! :D" }-

... and for India 65,95 Indian rupies ;D

[icr]

-{ Quote: "... and for India 65,95 Indian rupies ;D" }-

I'll be the first person to buy this for 65Rs ;D

[snowdrift]

How many machines are in the Panda cloud?

Immunet currently has ~246,000...

[buddee]

as they have mentioned since last year 10 million users have downloaded PCA so in my guess atleast 4 million users will be in the cloud excluding their paid customers.

[snowdrift]

-{ Quote: "as they have mentioned since last year 10 million users have downloaded PCA so in my guess atleast 4 million users will be in the cloud excluding their paid customers." }-

Any chance Immunet and Panda will share their cloud data between them?

[icr]

-{ Quote: "Any chance Immunet and Panda will share their cloud data between them?" }-

Very remote!

How did you even think about it;)

[Ibrad]

No idea really, most likely that will be kept private. I know Panda shares data with Web of Trust but that is the only one I know of.

[deadmeat]

-{ Quote: "Any chance Immunet and Panda will share their cloud data between them?" }-

Maybe Iobit could help them out by "borrowing" some of it and passing it on? ;D

[ace55]

Installed the free version. Strange bug:

Comodo Defense+ prompts that PSAN host is trying to modify all sorts of files it has no business modifying - for example, various executables on my hard drive. I have seen alerts for Starcraft 2, Vmware-vmx and prevx. In addition, since it was installed, I receive Defense+ prompts for /Device/RasAcd and /Device/Netbt_TCPIP_* despite these not being found in my protected files. Thus, I am quite puzzled why I am receiving those alerts.

Other software installed: Prevx, Sandboxie.

Uninstalling fixes the Protected Files Issue. Any ideas, pbust?

[Ibrad]

Comodo Firewall and Panda Cloud don't always get along (mainly to Comodo install file and the PCAV scanner) I don't know why it would be modifying them but maybe it's just scanning them and Comodo thinks it's modifying them?

[ace55]

-{ Quote: "Comodo Firewall and Panda Cloud don't always get along (mainly to Comodo install file and the PCAV scanner) I don't know why it would be modifying them but maybe it's just scanning them and Comodo thinks it's modifying them?" }-

Indeed, thats what I thought as well. Process monitor, however, reports that PSANhost tried to open a file for generic read/write access and was denied after I deny the alert in comodo. Very strange.

[PnP]

I bought a pro version and for me its impossible to activate.. how insert my code? .. :( and there is a problem with "slow start menu windows 7"... :(

[Ibrad]

It should have given you the option to enter the key as you were installing PCAV. I think (because I don't have a way to test it) is by clicking the upgrade to PCAV pro words on the bottom of the free version (or how ever it's worded) should give you a way to enter your key. I will look into it and see how it should be done if that does not work.

Also about the slow start menu....it's very rare on Windows 7 and does not happen to everybody. If I remember correctly slow was defined as just a few seconds and should not be very noticeable.

[PnP]

-{ Quote: "It should have given you the option to enter the key as you were installing PCAV. I think (because I don't have a way to test it) is by clicking the upgrade to PCAV pro words on the bottom of the free version (or how ever it's worded) should give you a way to enter your key. I will look into it and see how it should be done if that does not work.

Also about the slow start menu....it's very rare on Windows 7 and does not happen to everybody. If I remember correctly slow was defined as just a few seconds and should not be very noticeable." }-

Ok.. there isn't any menu or button that say me for enter a code and for other problem my x64 i7 3.5 ghz with 12 gb ram its very frustated bug and its noticeable when start my pc.. :(

thanks for reply..

[Ibrad]

Ok due to the fact I entered my key when I installed I never got to test how to do this. A guide would be nice and I will see if one of the Panda staff can get us one so you can get setup.

My other guess would be to go into the advance options and try to turn on one of the pro features (behavior analysis) and when the popup comes up see if it lets you put the code in. I will go ask the staff and possibly get a guide setup.

[PnP]

-{ Quote: "Ok due to the fact I entered my key when I installed I never got to test how to do this. A guide would be nice and I will see if one of the Panda staff can get us one so you can get setup.

My other guess would be to go into the advance options and try to turn on one of the pro features (behavior analysis) and when the popup comes up see if it lets you put the code in. I will go ask the staff and possibly get a guide setup." }-

i cannot see menu of pro in my version.. now try to reinstall.. thanks

[Ibrad]

Ok, sorry I could not give 100% correct guide, I asked over at the forum so from now on users can know how to.

[PnP]

-{ Quote: "Ok, sorry I could not give 100% correct guide, I asked over at the forum so from now on users can know how to." }-

ok thanks.. i hope that recieve somo solution later..

[PnP]

Now work..

solution is uninstall, install free.. activate account and now work.. :)

[Ibrad]

Glad you go it working ;D

[Unity]

Which process should i add to my firewall to have a perfect experience with Panda ?
I'm using the advanced windows 7 firewall , so i need to add exceptions by myself.

With the 1.0 beta i used to give access to PSANHost.exe only as far i as remember. Is it enough with the 1.1 ?
Because the gui says that everything is ok but the connection tab says that i'm not connected to the internet ???

[pbust]

-{ Quote: "Now work..

solution is uninstall, install free.. activate account and now work.. :)" }-
Weird, sounds as if you had a different version installed (<1.1). Where and when did you download it from?

[Unity]

Nevermind go it working with a simple reboot ;D

[trjam]

I am having a dickens of a time on the install. On 2 computers all said a install file was corrupt and to download the install package again. After numerous reboots, running CCleaner I got on those two, but no dice on this one. No other security installed.

[Ibrad]

Odd, have you tried to redownload the installer?

[trjam]

Oh yes, several times. I just rebooted again and ran it and it worked. Just weird but on 3 computers the same thing. One to go.;)

[Ibrad]

Yeah that's odd, the Panda Cloud forums have been issues today so maybe the install server was having some issues.

[Blackcat]

-{ Quote: "@BlackCat: Where can I find this type of info (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1688648&postcount=86)? Are u using some 3party soft?" }-
I am using Process Hacker (http://processhacker.sourceforge.net/). There is also Process Explorer (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx).

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "Yeah that's odd, the Panda Cloud forums have been issues today so maybe the install server was having some issues." }-
Maybe working overtime today :thumb:

I am very very happy how this has turned out for Panda.:)

[progress]

-{ Quote: "
I am very very happy how this has turned out for Panda.:)" }-

Which licence did you buy? :doubt:

[trjam]

the Pro.

[Blackcat]

Just checked PCAV before logging off for the night and I was disappointed to see that although the system tray icon indicated that there was no problems, the AV itself had been stopped.

Surely the tray icon should indicate a problem?

[clocks]

I tied doing a Full system scan and it hung at 22%. Not sure if anyone else has had similar issues. I have been able to complete a normal optimization scan, or whatever it is called.

[Ibrad]

Sometimes the UI says there is a issue yet the tray icon does not is a glitch. If I remember correctly the UI checks one service to see what the status is yet even though it's running fine the service that reports that info reports the wrong status. This glitch is odd and random, if it was a true issue and the service was stopped the Tray icon would change to a red x.

[intrepid44]

-{ Quote: "Sometimes the UI says there is a issue yet the tray icon does not is a glitch. If I remember correctly the UI checks one service to see what the status is yet even though it's running fine the service that reports that info reports the wrong status. This glitch is odd and random, if it was a true issue and the service was stopped the Tray icon would change to a red x." }-
you are correct...

[Blackcat]

-{ Quote: "Sometimes the UI says there is a issue yet the tray icon does not is a glitch. If I remember correctly the UI checks one service to see what the status is yet even though it's running fine the service that reports that info reports the wrong status. This glitch is odd and random, if it was a true issue and the service was stopped the Tray icon would change to a red x." }-
But I could not get past the stop Window shown; it simply froze in this position :-X :thumbd:

[Ibrad]

Very odd, is that K icon in your tray icon Keyscrambler? I am tracing back some issues and one issue I am helping fix on the forum has a PC with KeyScrambler on it and I am wondering if it's causing issues :what:

[buckslayr]

I'm really liking the new cloud av free. Is the free version able to stand alone? Or is the PRO version stand alone?

[intrepid44]

Free and pro can both be used as stand alone applications, according to pbust they will both also run alongside another av but I dont recommend it.

[buckslayr]

I would really like to go PRO but $29.95 for (1) year / (1) license seems a little steep. Maybe a Wilders member special is in order???

[intrepid44]

-{ Quote: "I would really like to go PRO but $29.95 for (1) year / (1) license seems a little steep. Maybe a Wilders member special is in order???" }-
Merry Christmas buck let me know how you make out.

[trjam]

I think they will take a closer look at pricing. The market is exploding with new products, cloud specific, and the one that offers the most flexibility will assist themselves in the long run. I think a 1, 3 and a 5 user license for this product would be great. Panda already has the detection ability market cornered, the key is to now not make it a issue with the price. They really have a golden oppurtunity to slam the door shut if they price it right.

[Noob]

Will try it right now :D

[intrepid44]

-{ Quote: "I think they will take a closer look at pricing. The market is exploding with new products, cloud specific, and the one that offers the most flexibility will assist themselves in the long run. I think a 1 and a 3 user license for this product would be great. Panda already has the detection ability market cornered, the key is to now not make it a issue with the price. They really have a golden oppurtunity to slam the door shut if they price it right." }-
You I think they should to for 1 year 1 license should be something like 19.95 and then go up from there more computers more money.

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "Will try it right now :D" }-

you the man, Noob.;)

[buckslayr]

@Interpid44

Thanks man. I'm loving the PRO version.

[Noob]

-{ Quote: "you the man, Noob.;)" }-
Lol, this was like an instant response hahaha
Yeah, just finished installing xD
Let's see how it goes wit Avast! Free ;D

[Ibrad]

I personally say keep the price but allow two installs per each key.

[intrepid44]

-{ Quote: "@Interpid44

Thanks man. I'm loving the PRO version." }-
No problem that was your christmas present for the next 5 years lol

[trjam]

Ah, why not by itself.;)

[intrepid44]

-{ Quote: "I personally say keep the price but allow two installs per each key." }-
ok I would agree with that ...

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "I personally say keep the price but allow two installs per each key." }-
that would be doable, and maybe even a reduction for a second key for 2 more computers.;)

[buckslayr]

Two installs per key sounds good. Maybe something like $19.95 + $9.95 for each additional installs up to 3?

[Ibrad]

Also to add to what I already said I would suggest giving a 5 buck-ish discount on renewals. Because once they already have the software they would be using less server usage so we can lower the price some.

[intrepid44]

-{ Quote: "Also to add to what I already said I would suggest giving a 5 buck-ish discount on renewals. Because once they already have the software they would be using less server usage so we can lower the price some." }-
Don't get carried away now they have to make some money.;D

[Noob]

Want to see this tested against non cloud based AV :P

[trjam]

Everyone looks with blinders when pricing. Computers are cheaper then ever before. A single license still has its place, but it is time for someone to become creative for those instances where a single household has a few more.

[trjam]

Oh, I bet this product does very well against all.;)

[buckslayr]

-{ Quote: "Everyone looks with blinders when pricing. Computers are cheaper then ever before. A single license still has its place, but it is time for someone to become creative for those instances where a single household has a few more." }-

Well said. I agree!

[intrepid44]

I have 3 I have a laptop windows 7 , desktop windows 7 both brand new and a old dell 2350 desktop with xp still running like a champ the kids get to use.;D

[trjam]

I will give you an example. They have your IP so they know if it is being use, or misused. So you buy a license for $29.99 for one computer and each additional computer up to 6 will be $5.00 extra per computer.

[Miyagi]

Allow me to join the Panda Fun! :)

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "Allow me to join the Panda Fun! :)" }-
Bout time you boarded the Panda Express.;)

[Ibrad]

I sent some of everyone's thoughts about pricing to the Panda staff to see what they say.

Yes I know Panda has to make money some how but if users would be more willing to buy a key if it could be used on two machines that would make Panda money in the long run ;)

[intrepid44]

-{ Quote: "I will give you an example. They have your IP so they know if it is being use, or misused. So you buy a license for $29.99 for one computer and each additional computer up to 6 will be $5.00 extra per computer." }-
that would be a great idea have to run it by pbust..

[intrepid44]

-{ Quote: "I sent some of everyone's thoughts about pricing to the Panda staff to see what they say.

Yes I know Panda has to make money some how but if users would be more willing to buy a key if it could be used on two machines that would make Panda money in the long run ;)" }-
and the more people using it the safer everyone is!!!!:D

[trjam]

More computers hooked up=more detections=more protection for customers.

[CiX]

Panda Cloud Antivirus Review @ cnet (http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-20006663-12.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody)

[PnP]

-{ Quote: "Weird, sounds as if you had a different version installed (<1.1). Where and when did you download it from?" }-

from site cloudantivirus.com...

[Brocke]

i still wanna a lifetime key. id pay for that. :thumb:

[Mongol]

The program runs great and the price was right so I went for the Pro. Panda Pro that is...:o ;D

[CiX]

Just notice there are a new beta version of Panda Cloud AV :doubt:
218686
Any changelog?