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Pleonasm
May 27th, 2010, 11:40 AM
A new announcement from Symantec...

-{ Quote: "Symantec announces plans for Norton Everywhere, which will bring its security software to a variety of devices, such as smartphones and set-top boxes....

The initiative is kicking off with:

Norton Connect. This is a utility for iPhones and Android handsets, that provides access to files backed up using Norton Backup on PCs and Macs.

Norton Security for Android. Another Android app-one that does include a malware scanner, but also has a remote wipe utility that lets you destroy data on a lost or stolen phone, a call-blocking utility, and a program to prevent you from accidentally incurring roaming charges.

Norton DNS. Symantec will compete with OpenDNS and Google Public DNS by offering a free Domain Name System (DNS) service that you can configure as a substitute for the one used by your broadband ISP and/or wireless carrier. The company is partnering with DNS specialist Dyn to offer the service, and says it'll be faster than default DNS options and will filter out dangerous sites (such as ones infested with malware or used for phishing) and potentially objectionable ones. Since the service sits in between the Internet and Internet-connected devices, it'll work with computers, phones, and anything else that connects to the Internet; Symantec plans to offer configuration utilities for PCs and Android phones when the service launches.

All of the above will be available in June.

Source: Norton Plans to Go Beyond the PC (http://www.pcworld.com/article/197336/norton_plans_to_go_beyond_the_pc.html)" }-

Ibrad
May 27th, 2010, 12:02 PM
Well I did not expect that :o

sg09
May 27th, 2010, 01:55 PM
Waiting for Norton DNS..:)

firzen771
May 27th, 2010, 03:11 PM
hm.... im not liking the idea of the Norton DNS personally, it seems ther almost starting to go the way of Comodo and stretch out into everything they can, bad move IMO as u can see in the automotive industry, spreading urself out too thin isn't always the best idea (look at the old GM for that)

vojta
May 27th, 2010, 04:36 PM
Comodo?. Lol:

Founded in April 1982
FY09 Revenue: $6.2 billion* (ended April 3, 2009)
Consumer Revenue: $1.8 billion
419 on Fortune 500 list
Enterprise Revenue: $4.4 billion
More than 17,500 employees worldwide

http://www.symantec.com/about/profile/business.jsp

firzen771
May 27th, 2010, 06:22 PM
-{ Quote: "Comodo?. Lol:

Founded in April 1982
FY09 Revenue: $6.2 billion* (ended April 3, 2009)
Consumer Revenue: $1.8 billion
419 on Fortune 500 list
Enterprise Revenue: $4.4 billion
More than 17,500 employees worldwide

http://www.symantec.com/about/profile/business.jsp" }-

i didn't say anything about a companies revenue or anything of the sort, i related to the idea of expanding beyond what you need which can sometimes end badly, thats why i used the reference i did.

andyman35
May 27th, 2010, 06:53 PM
I broadly agree with Firzen771 in that companies trying to be a 'jack of all trades' often end up the master of none.However if anyone can pull off a dns,etc Symantec should have the resources to do so.it'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

RejZoR
May 27th, 2010, 07:27 PM
Symantec DNS is probably the most interesting out of all...

funkydude
May 27th, 2010, 09:10 PM
I'd use Symantec's DNS service over OpenDNS if:

1. Perhaps the most important, the privacy policy is strong.
2. It's actually faster then OpenDNS
3. It doesn't hijack non-existent pages like OpenDNS. (very annoying)

I'll pass when it comes to installing any Symantec software, thankfully DNS doesn't need anything installed. So this would be the only service from the above I'd consider.

SIR****TMG
May 27th, 2010, 09:35 PM
Time will tell

firzen771
May 27th, 2010, 10:15 PM
-{ Quote: "3. It doesn't hijack non-existent pages like OpenDNS. (very annoying)" }-

how exactly could that POSSIBLY be annoying?... u said it urself, NON-EXISTENT pages, opendns simply sends u to its own little page with search results (of course some sponsored results as well, but thats what u get with a free service and can hardly be complained about)

if ther was no site to reach in the first place, how can it be annoying that opendns inputs a search page of its own? i dont get it... its not like opendns redirects u from a REAL working site to its own, no, it happens when what ur typed in does not exist lol.

it seems people just find things to complain about for the sake of complaining these days.

funkydude
May 27th, 2010, 11:26 PM
-{ Quote: "
it seems people just find things to complain about for the sake of complaining these days." }-

Many people hate DNS hijacking, I'm one of them. I want an error, not a page full of ads. Just because you don't agree with that doesn't make it ridiculous.

TonyW
May 28th, 2010, 05:26 AM
-{ Quote: "I want an error, not a page full of ads." }-On the other hand, some people who use the OpenDNS service don't see the ads because of ad-blocking techniques in place so all they get is search results.

It'd be interesting to see if Norton DNS offers an error page or what they consider to be 'relevant' search results.

firzen771
May 28th, 2010, 05:55 AM
-{ Quote: "Many people hate DNS hijacking, I'm one of them. I want an error, not a page full of ads. Just because you don't agree with that doesn't make it ridiculous." }-

it does make it rediculous, its nitpicking the little things, its a free service and ur complaining because they try to support their service with a page that isnt any worse than no page at all, u just close the page right after anyways so i see no downside

Einsturzende
May 28th, 2010, 07:22 AM
-{ Quote: "how exactly could that POSSIBLY be annoying?... u said it urself, NON-EXISTENT pages, opendns simply sends u to its own little page with search results (of course some sponsored results as well, but thats what u get with a free service and can hardly be complained about)

if ther was no site to reach in the first place, how can it be annoying that opendns inputs a search page of its own? i dont get it... its not like opendns redirects u from a REAL working site to its own, no, it happens when what ur typed in does not exist lol.

it seems people just find things to complain about for the sake of complaining these days." }-

Comodo DNS service do not have ad redirection... but complaining about "their" ask toolbar is not for sake of complaining altho CIS is free?

quanzi_1507
May 28th, 2010, 12:18 PM
Norton DNS is out :D

http://www.nortondns.com/

Note: non-existent pages redirect to Norton Safe Search (powered by Ask.com).

3GUSER
May 28th, 2010, 12:22 PM
-{ Quote: "Norton DNS is out :D

http://www.nortondns.com/" }-

But is BETA !

funkydude
May 28th, 2010, 12:28 PM
-{ Quote: "it does make it rediculous, its nitpicking the little things, its a free service and ur complaining because they try to support their service with a page that isnt any worse than no page at all, u just close the page right after anyways so i see no downside" }-

Yes, I'm complaining that they are hijacking the errors with ads. That's exactly correct.

You're complaining that I'm nitpicking, I truly don't care. It is human nature to try to achieve perfection, nitpicking comes under that category.

-{ Quote: "Norton DNS is out :D

http://www.nortondns.com/

Note: non-existent pages redirect to Norton Safe Search (powered by Ask.com)." }-

I'll pass then. Sticking with OpenDNS. Far more features to consider swapping, for now.

sg09
May 28th, 2010, 01:04 PM
-{ Quote: "Norton DNS is out :D

http://www.nortondns.com/

Note: non-existent pages redirect to Norton Safe Search (powered by Ask.com)." }-
Good to hear it is out. But Ask..!!??? too bad...:'(

Pleonasm
May 28th, 2010, 07:14 PM
Some interesting information about Norton DNS...

-{ Quote: "Why don't I just get an error when I mistype a domain in the address bar?
Part of the benefit of Norton DNS is that you get guidance versus a useless error page with no information. When you mis-type an address, the Norton DNS service will "guess" what you meant and offer you the right link and/or links that you are likely to be interested in.

Where does Norton DNS get its 'security' from?
Norton DNS leverages the Safe Web database. Safe Web contains information on millions of sites and it is queried billions of times each day. Norton DNS is updated every few minutes and new security information is propagated throughout the network every 10-15 minutes.

Source: FAQs (http://www.nortondns.com/faq/)" }-
Note: Norton DNS is in beta at present.

firzen771
May 29th, 2010, 09:16 AM
-{ Quote: "Comodo DNS service do not have ad redirection... but complaining about "their" ask toolbar is not for sake of complaining altho CIS is free?" }-

actually no, thats not the same. installing a toolbar onto ur system that is always gunna be ther no matter what u do in ur browser is hardly the same as having a web page that opens when u type the wrong URL, that doesnt install anything onto ur system unlike a toolbar.

kjdemuth
May 29th, 2010, 09:31 AM
I tried a bunch of DNS services last night. I tried open DNS, Norton, Comodo and google DNS. I ran the GRC test. turns out that my ISP was the fastest on the list. Go figure. Of course if you read some of the articles about privacy, I wouldn't be using any of them.

iwod
May 31st, 2010, 06:49 AM
I have never had a single DNS system that is faster then my ISP including ones from Google.

BoerenkoolMetWorst
May 31st, 2010, 07:31 AM
Besides the plans mentioned above, Symantec also took over VeriSign, yet another step closer to Norton everywhere.

-{ Quote: "it does make it rediculous, its nitpicking the little things, its a free service and ur complaining because they try to support their service with a page that isnt any worse than no page at all, u just close the page right after anyways so i see no downside" }-

There is a downside. Normally, if I mistype one character in the URL I just have to change that one and it works, now I have to change a lot more because the whole OpenDNS search is in the URL. Plus, there is of course the search results, but most of the time, there are none found or the one I want is not listed.

Kerodo
May 31st, 2010, 12:44 PM
-{ Quote: "I have never had a single DNS system that is faster then my ISP including ones from Google." }-
Neither have I, my ISP is always fastest. I only used OpenDNS once many years ago when my ISP had become unreliable for a period of time while they were upgrading. Other than that, I stick with my ISP.

Pleonasm
May 31st, 2010, 05:37 PM
-{ Quote: "Besides the plans mentioned above, Symantec also took over VeriSign, yet another step closer to Norton everywhere" }-
Concerning Symantec and VeriSign, this thead (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=272989) may be of interest.

Pleonasm
November 10th, 2010, 12:16 PM
No longer in beta, Norton DNS has now been released – see: Faster, Safer Internet with Free Norton DNS (http://community.norton.com/t5/Norton-Protection-Blog/Faster-Safer-Internet-with-Free-Norton-DNS/ba-p/323270).

JRViejo
November 15th, 2010, 02:10 AM
Removed Off Topic Post.

m0unds
November 15th, 2010, 02:19 AM
-{ Quote: "
3. It doesn't hijack non-existent pages like OpenDNS. (very annoying)
" }-

if not returning an NXDOMAIN is "very annoying", you can turn off NXDOMAIN redirection, but you lose wildcards and typographical fixes, etc.

my take (fwiw) they're providing a free service (unless you're using deluxe, in which case you don't get an NXDOMAIN but you also don't have ads) and ad revenue assists them in their mission to provide rock-solid recursive DNS.


at any rate, opendns is significantly faster for me, in my location, than any other "secure DNS" provider available, so i won't be changing.

symantec's norton dns privacy policy says (paraphrasing): hey, we partnered with ask. they may use cookies to track preferences. if you wanna know anything about the data they collect, check out their privacy policy. ask + privacy = oof