Outpost Firewall Pro 7.0 (3371.514.1232) - Final

[AvinashR]

YOUR ESSENTIAL INTERNET DEFENSE. Leading personal firewall with anti-spyware, proactive defense and secure browsing tools. Outpost Firewall Pro provides a superior arsenal of defense against PC infiltration. Outpost ensures your online security with solid protection against all Internet-borne threats. Outpost is the first personal firewall developed with Open Architecture.

It is also the first personal firewall that supports plug-ins. Sample plug-ins are included to show how this revolutionary technology can easily be employed for such tasks as Intrusion Detection, Advertisement Blocking, Content Filtering, E-mail Guard, and Privacy Control. It is equipped with every feature a personal firewall should have. It is the most functional firewall in the world. It supports all the latest security techniques and features such as: Full Stealth Mode, Anti-Leak, and MD5 Authentication.

What’s New in Outpost 7:

• Application guard New! The new Application Guard feature, which comes as an upgrade to Outpost’s Proactive Protection module, defends sensitive data stored by various Internet-enabled applications such as instant messengers, web browsers, e-mail clients and e-banking software from compromise. Items such as cached/saved login details and passwords, configuration files, electronic wallet contents, etc. are now shielded from being tampered or hijacked by unauthorized non-related applications.

• System guard Improved! As an extension to Outpost’s Proactive Protection module, the System Guard feature secures critical system files and configurations against misuse or compromise. The list of protected items could be extended by adding the program of your choosing to the protected system software list.

• File and folder lock New! File & Folder Lock functionality enables protection of locally-stored assets from corruption, modification or illegal access by other users or malware. With just a few clicks within the “File and Folder Lock” section of the Proactive Protection settings panel in Outpost, you can simply select a folder or file you wish to protect and set limitations by defining access password.

• Real-time File and Registry Activity monitoring New! File and Registry Activity provides an invaluable opportunity to look into system events at a closer range by monitoring activity of any given active process and tracking system changes in real time. The user can analyze every active process, its path and time as well as track registry modifications in order to take action with Outpost’s ample functionality.

• Antivirus module Improved! The antivirus engine has been improved with new detection and cure capabilities. Besides, the Quarantine component has been reworked to become more actionable — it’s now easier to decide upon suspicious objects. Agnitum’s heuristic analyzer, part of Antimalware, has been updated to ensure efficient monitoring of autostarted objects’ behavior on system start-up.

• Restored Content Filter New! Legacy of Outpost 4.0, Content Filter has been restored in the new version of Outpost. The module analyzes web contents for the presence of defined keywords before a certain page is loaded, and steers the user away from suspicious or abusive sources on the Internet.

• Extended Anti-Leak capabilities Improved! New types of data leak techniques have been incorporated into Outpost’s Proactive Defense module to ensure up-to-date protection against new attacks employed in zero-day threats. The module’s effectiveness has been proved by successfully deterring new malware samples and passing existing leak tests.

• Update process Improved! Whenever updates to the main antivirus engine (executable module) become available, they will be automatically applied without the need for user participation (providing, of course, for system reboot). This ensures latest protection is always in place without any hassles from the user’s end.

• Stability on new platforms Improved! The introduction of new standards to the Outpost 7 lineup make it better compatible and stable running on the new Windows 7 platform, with fewer occurrences of slowdowns and interoperability issues. These changes make Outpost even better positioned to meet the future arrival of new Windows OS.

• User interface with a facelift Improved!
The interface changes were designed to reflect the modern Windows 7 look and provide better visibility of product notifications. Redesigned setting panels make program configuration more.

Homepage - http://www.agnitum.com/products/outpost/

[icr]

I think its still due on release they haven't changed the product profile on top right corner.:-\

[King Grub]

It is perfectly downloadable.

http://www.agnitum.com/products/

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "I think its still due on release they haven't changed the product profile on top right corner.:-\" }-

I am sure they'll update it within 24 hours...Final version released and i confirm this !! :) :)

[kjdemuth]

Thanks ash! I was hoping that Outpost would be done soon. Now maybe I can try this with avira free.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Thanks ash! I was hoping that Outpost would be done soon. Now maybe I can try this with avira free." }-

You are most welcome bro. Yes now you can try it & also i am going to writeup a review on the same...:)

[icr]

-{ Quote: "It is perfectly downloadable.

http://www.agnitum.com/products/" }-

Got it:)

BTW the new system and application guard is worth looking for

[kjdemuth]

-{ Quote: "You are most welcome bro. Yes now you can try it & also i am going to writeup a review on the same...:)" }-
I was hoping that you were. I used to use outpost alot before OA. Hey when you do test it see how it does against keyloggers and the such. ;D

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "I was hoping that you were. I used to use outpost alot before OA. Hey when you do test it see how it does against keyloggers and the such. ;D" }-

Right now i am busy with one burning software...I have already committed to the vendor..:P

After that i'll test it and writeup my review on this...Will take some time, may be 1 or 2 weeks. :)

[burebista]

x64 is not out yet.
-{ Quote: "how it does against keyloggers and the such." }-
Fails against Spyshelter (Keylogger and System protection pass though), PCFlank and 2 tests from CLT.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "x64 is not out yet.

Fails against Spyshelter (Keylogger and System protection pass though), PCFlank and 2 tests from CLT." }-

I guess it is a firewall, so let it do its primary work. For Keyloggers we have SpyShelter or Zemana...:)

[Matthijs5nl]

Is there some news for the release of the Free version, since the Outpost Free version is the only third-party firewall I do actually like if I look at what W7 Firewall already delivers.

[nikanthpromod]

Thanks but where is the free Version??

[Einsturzende]

-{ Quote: "I guess it is a firewall, so let it do its primary work. For Keyloggers we have SpyShelter or Zemana...:)" }-
and what about OPSS? ::)

[Manny Carvalho]

Here's the official announcement:

http://www.agnitum.com/news/2010-05-25-agnitum-announces-outpost-7.php

Product lineup: http://www.agnitum.com/products/

There's no update on the free version. No decision on whether or not that will be updated has been made yet.

[Einsturzende]

Do we need to wait for Matousec to add screenlogging test or some other stimulus to Agnitum protect that API?

[Brummelchen]

put a piece of ~ Snipped as per TOS (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/faq.php?faq=wilders_tos#faq_wilders_tos_1) ~ on Matousec and test it yourself (if you want to test/use).
i would like to install outpost for my own opinion - not for matousecs'

[ESS474]

version 7 free when?

[minoka]

Hello,

We heard from Agnitum that no final decision has been made regarding the update of Outpost Free to 7.0.

Sorry.

[hayc59]

-{ Quote: "put a piece of ~ Snipped as per TOS (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/faq.php?faq=wilders_tos#faq_wilders_tos_1) ~ on Matousec and test it yourself (if you want to test/use).
i would like to install outpost for my own opinion - not for matousecs'" }-
Here..Here!! Said very well!!

[Einsturzende]

-{ Quote: "put a piece of ~ Snipped as per TOS (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/faq.php?faq=wilders_tos#faq_wilders_tos_1) ~ on Matousec and test it yourself (if you want to test/use).
i would like to install outpost for my own opinion - not for matousecs'" }-
Me too, I have an opinion, so I ask "Do we need to wait for Matousec...?", not because, despite

[falkor]

-{ Quote: "put a piece of ~ Snipped as per TOS (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/faq.php?faq=wilders_tos#faq_wilders_tos_1) ~ on Matousec and test it yourself (if you want to test/use).
i would like to install outpost for my own opinion - not for matousecs'" }-

LMAO !!!!!!1 Amen !!!!!8)

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "and what about OPSS? ::)" }-

I have never used OPSS, so i can't tell you about it. :(

[twl845]

Is it absolutely necessary to uninstall OP firewall Pro V2009 by booting to safemode and using the clean .zip? I booted to safemode and when the log on screen appeared, my mouse arrow was frozen. I did a hard shut down to get out. Could I use the standard method of uninstalling by going to the control panel Add/Remove and uninstall there? Then go to my jv16 registry cleaner and clean up left overs? After which install the new version. Thanks in advance.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Is it absolutely necessary to uninstall OP firewall Pro V2009 by booting to safemode and using the clean .zip? I booted to safemode and when the log on screen appeared, my mouse arrow was frozen. I did a hard shut down to get out. Could I use the standard method of uninstalling by going to the control panel Add/Remove and uninstall there? Then go to my jv16 registry cleaner and clean up left overs? After which install the new version. Thanks in advance." }-

I guess you can use the standard mode for uninstalling the OPF 2009, and then re-install the latest version.

[Fuzzfas]

It's good to finally see that they listen to their paid customers and made available an easy way to block the automatic phone-home to download their "Agnitum news". ::) I even got a pop up saying "Agnitum news downloaded", in case i had missed them. Nice touch of class!

I also particularly liked that while during installation i UNCHECKED the partecipation to the Agnitum community, once i installed, the partecipation was again checked.

The PC feels more sluggish, but overall seems better than v.6.

[Rainwalker]

Anyone care to put together a Pros & Cons list, as a past version comparative.

[Brummelchen]

-{ Quote: "~ Snipped as per TOS ~" }-
for my excuse - i didnt wrote some word of that - i used directly the asterix *** ;)
the bad word filter didnt fit here, was me. insert "blame" if you like...

@falkor
ye "brother" - praise the lord - Halleluja ;D

Uninstalling older - may wise if settings will be kept.
otherwise export settings and import them again after fresh install.
maybe hayc59 can advise us.

btw some backup/image might helpful if the upgrade fails.

[Manny Carvalho]

-{ Quote: "@falkor
ye "brother" - praise the lord - Halleluja ;D

Uninstalling older - may wise if settings will be kept.
otherwise export settings and import them again after fresh install.
maybe hayc59 can advise us.

btw some backup/image might helpful if the upgrade fails." }-
Generally speaking upgrading over the older versions normally works very well. However, I never like to upgrade from any beta software as bugs may stay behind. A clean uninstall is always best there. I also prefer to do a clean install for major version changes just because of the you never know factor. I'd rather not have any remnants left behind to cause trouble even though upgrading over an old version generally is trouble free. It's easy enough to bring back the configuration file from a backup folder so you lose none of your settings. Even there, on major version changes, I redo my configuration on the principle that I'm fixing any mistakes I might have made and just a general review. Really there's quite a bit of latitude on how upgrading should be done. I've come to prefer the safest route even though that may take a little more time. I think in the long run it may save time.

[Brummelchen]

well said :)

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "The PC feels more sluggish, but overall seems better than v.6." }-
I detest "sluggish"!!!

On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being "fast like before OP" & 1 being "dead stopped") where would you put your computer's "sluggishness index" when running OP?

[m00nbl00d]

Manny,

Are you aware whether or not the issues many Outpost users were having with drivers afw.sys and sandbox.sys have been fixed?

[hayc59]

-{ Quote: "
for my excuse - i didnt wrote some word of that - i used directly the asterix *** ;)
the bad word filter didnt fit here, was me. insert "blame" if you like...

@falkor
ye "brother" - praise the lord - Halleluja ;D

Uninstalling older - may wise if settings will be kept.
otherwise export settings and import them again after fresh install.
maybe hayc59 can advise us.

btw some backup/image might helpful if the upgrade fails." }-
Brumm...I basically do the exact same thing as Manny
a little more time consuming but better in the end ;)

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "x64 is not out yet.

Fails against Spyshelter (Keylogger and System protection pass though), PCFlank and 2 tests from CLT." }-
I don't know how relevant is my screenshot,but Outpost passed CLT for me.And PC Flank too.

[burebista]

Can you tell me what OS and what settings for Outpost? Thanks. :)
Mine is Seven x64 and Outpost with Firewall-Rules Wizard and in Advanced is Block most at both settings, Anti Leak Protection is Advanced and System and App guard both enabled.

[korben]

Wish I could d/l it but it seems impossible grrr

link dead or?

[burebista]

Try here (http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Firewall/Outpost-Firewall-Pro.shtml). It seems that Agnitum webpages have some problems now.

[korben]

Just downloading from agnitum.

thanks

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "I detest "sluggish"!!!

On a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being "fast like before OP" & 1 being "dead stopped") where would you put your computer's "sluggishness index" when running OP?" }-

Well, sluggishness, is also something subjective. But i am very sensitive to that, being a freak about lightness.

For explorer speed (navigating around folders), i 'd say 7 out of 10 (which is not bad for firewall with HIPS, but i 've seen better too in OA Free).
For browsing speed 8-9 out of 10.

By 10 i intend my current setup which is superlight, as Avast hardly every uses the hard disk.

As soon as i installed Outpost i got a clear slowness in opening folders. That's the price for HIPS... You 're more secure, certainly, but all those modules do have a price.


On the other hand, on CPU usage under heavy load (p2p), there is an improvement, as now it takes 1-2% of CPU on my quad core, while it's running at 800Mhz with Cool N Quiet. Version 6 was doing worse in that. Of course then you have Win7 Firewall Control which stays at 0% most of the time, with rare peeks to 1%. But no HIPS...

[Leach]

Seems like I experienced some ("unproved") web slow-donw while using OPF with a full version of MBAM with IP blocking on. Disabling web filtering within OPF cured the issue, while unchecking the MBAM' IP-blocking didn't. "Unprooved" is because I'm not sure whether on not it was a FW or some net instability but I encountered this a couple of times. And a veeery long uninstalling of OPFW took about two minutes.

[twl845]

I installed my copy of V7 and find that the Web Control is missing from the line up on the main My Security page, and the Web Control along with ID Blocker page is greyed out. I posted this on the OP forum, and it appears I'm not the only one. They better get this fixed and release an update with Web Control re- established. >:(

[nikanthpromod]

I WANT FREE VERSION v7.............:'(

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "Can you tell me what OS and what settings for Outpost? Thanks. :)
Mine is Seven x64 and Outpost with Firewall-Rules Wizard and in Advanced is Block most at both settings, Anti Leak Protection is Advanced and System and App guard both enabled." }-
I'm on 7 ultimate x86 with exactly the same settings as you.Maybe bugs with x64 systems? ???

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "I WANT FREE VERSION v7.............:'(" }-
Hey Nik,i can give you a key valid for aprox 70 days.After the license expires,all the features remain,only the auto updates are gone.;)

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "I installed my copy of V7 and find that the Web Control is missing from the line up on the main My Security page, and the Web Control along with ID Blocker page is greyed out. I posted this on the OP forum, and it appears I'm not the only one. They better get this fixed and release an update with Web Control re- established. >:(" }-
Happened to me too.Based on my experience,when i had installed NOD32 or KAV,and i installed after Outpost, Web control is grey out and not active,because of the "third parties software", Outpost consider an incompatibility.Try to install FIRST Outpost Fw,and after your current AV.I bet it works.I use too Avast 5.

[twl845]

-{ Quote: "Happened to me too,but depends on your AV.Based on my experience,when i had installed NOD32 or KAV,and i installed after Outpost, Web control is grey out and not active,because of the "third parties software", Outpost consider an incompatibility.Try to install FIRST Outpost Fw,and after your current AV.I bet it works." }-
That occurred to me too. I'm using Avast! V5 which has Web Shield, and I thought OP might have seen that and de-activated its Web Control because it might be redundant. I De-activated the Web Shield in Avast and re- installed OP, but no change. I'll keep your suggestion in mind. I'll bet it will work too. I have thought in the past when running OP V6 if the two web control/shields weren't too much of a good thing.
My complaint is that OP should leave it up to me.

[nikanthpromod]

-{ Quote: "Hey Nik,i can give you a key valid for aprox 70 days.After the license expires,all the features remain,only the auto updates are gone.;)" }-

Wow Thanks Friend. Can u plz send me a pm.:D

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "That occurred to me too. I'm using Avast! V5 which has Web Shield, and I thought OP might have seen that and de-activated its Web Control because it might be redundant. I De-activated the Web Shield in Avast and re- installed OP, but no change. I'll keep your suggestion in mind. I'll bet it will work too. I have thought in the past when running OP V6 if the two web control/shields weren't too much of a good thing.
My complaint is that OP should leave it up to me." }-
I forgot to mention that Avast is installed with all shields.As you,i don't know how much it helps me,the OP Web shield,but i like to have a software fully functional,and if i see some problems,i decide what i have to deactivate or not.
PS.Your signature..(not about security ;D ).....LOOOL

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "Wow Thanks Friend. Can u plz send me a pm.:D" }-
Check your PM Nik.Let me know if it works.

[ellison64]

-{ Quote: "That occurred to me too. I'm using Avast! V5 which has Web Shield, and I thought OP might have seen that and de-activated its Web Control because it might be redundant. I De-activated the Web Shield in Avast and re- installed OP, but no change. I'll keep your suggestion in mind. I'll bet it will work too. I have thought in the past when running OP V6 if the two web control/shields weren't too much of a good thing.
My complaint is that OP should leave it up to me." }-

You don't need to reinstall avast or outpost to enable the web control
http://www.agnitum.com/support/kb/article.php?id=1000253&lang=en
ellison

[twl845]

-{ Quote: "You don't need to reinstall avast or outpost to enable the web control
http://www.agnitum.com/support/kb/article.php?id=1000253&lang=en
ellison" }-
Hi ellison, I located the .ini file and opened it. I saw no mention of Web Control in the documentation. Nor did I find the phrase "EnableContentHandler". The contents of the .ini file is typed and any changes would have to be done by deleting words and re-typing other words, as in this case type true. I mention this to make sure I'm in the right place. There is only one .ini file in OP. Can you give any help on this?

[pabrate]

It's working for me , but I've noticed slowdown while browsing, so I disabled it the same way I enabled it.

[twl845]

-{ Quote: "It's working for me , but I've noticed slowdown while browsing, so I disabled it the same way I enabled it." }-
Looking at my post above, am I doing something wrong? Did I deviate from what you did? Thanks in advance.

[pabrate]

-{ Quote: "Looking at my post above, am I doing something wrong? Did I deviate from what you did? Thanks in advance." }-

I would love to help you and I read what you said first time, but sorry I don't understand what you are saying.
All I did was following steps from that article, it's easy and well explained.
Locate machine.ini (Agnitum directory), edit it, search strings provided in article (it will find it, ok? :p )
change false to TRUE, save it and that's it :)
If course, first disable self-protection and then exit from application.
Just follow those steps and you'll be fine .

[twl845]

-{ Quote: "I would love to help you and I read what you said first time, but sorry I don't understand what you are saying.
All I did was following steps from that article, it's easy and well explained.
Locate machine.ini (Agnitum directory), edit it, search strings provided in article (it will find it, ok? :p )
change false to TRUE, save it and that's it :)
If course, first disable self-protection and then exit from application.
Just follow those steps and you'll be fine ." }-OK Thanks:) I was successful and have my Web Control back.

[nikanthpromod]

Its working. im having some mouse stucks.:-\
Any1 noticed that??

[LoneWolf]

-{ Quote: "Manny,

Are you aware whether or not the issues many Outpost users were having with drivers afw.sys and sandbox.sys have been fixed?" }-

I too am curious if this is still an issue. Anyone?

[pandlouk]

-{ Quote: "I too am curious if this is still an issue. Anyone?" }-
On Windows 7 32bit with Roxio's BackonTrack Instant Restore, sandbox.sys causes BSODs.

Panagiotis

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "On Windows 7 32bit with Roxio's BackonTrack Instant Restore, sandbox.sys causes BSODs.

Panagiotis" }-

Have you been having any issues with both or just one of the mentioned drivers (afw.sys or sandbox.sys) regarding the Outpost not loading one or two of those drivers when entering Windows session?

A lot of users were having this problem with 2009 version. I had it too. It was necessary to constantly uninstall and reinstall it. And, even this wasn't 100% guaranteed that would make it work fine again. I gave up using it after a while.

[pandlouk]

-{ Quote: "Have you been having any issues with both or just one of the mentioned drivers (afw.sys or sandbox.sys) regarding the Outpost not loading one or two of those drivers when entering Windows session?

A lot of users were having this problem with 2009 version. I had it too. It was necessary to constantly uninstall and reinstall it. And, even this wasn't 100% guaranteed that would make it work fine again. I gave up using it after a while." }-
Only "sandbox.sys" gives problems with Instant Restore.
It BSODs right away (about 5 seconds after booting). I do not have even the chance to see the 7 animated boot logo. :argh:

Other than that works like a charm.:P

Panagiotis

[JoeBlack40]

The main reason for why i dumped OP is the fact that i have to manually delete within OP the remains of the programs that are no longer in my laptop.Why the heck the developers didn't think of this feature?Back to OA pro.

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "The main reason for why i dumped OP is the fact that i have to manually delete within OP the remains of the programs that are no longer in my laptop.Why the heck the developers didn't think of this feature?Back to OA pro." }-

It actually happens that, last year, while in touch with Agnitum support team due to the problems I previously related, I suggest them just that, so that we wouldn't have to manually delete every and each entry. It was a pretty damn good suggestion; maybe they thought differently.

You know, little details such as this one make all the difference in the acceptance of a product.

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "It actually happens that, last year, while in touch with Agnitum support team due to the problems I previously related, I suggest them just that, so that we wouldn't have to manually delete every and each entry. It was a pretty damn good suggestion; maybe they thought differently.

You know, little details such as this one make all the difference in the acceptance of a product." }-
Exactly,and i really don't understand why the developers didn't take your suggestion more seriously,and implemented it....another reason to stay away from OP.And yes,these damn little details....
PS.Comodo has a "purge" function,OA "only deleted"...The OP developers are blind??

[tekkaman]

I have a question. I just installed the trial. This new version doesn't have the antispyware component?

[Rainwalker]

-{ Quote: "

You know, little details such as this one make all the difference in the acceptance of a product." }-

Devil in the details.........Is it true that the latest version will not allow the user to manually remove anything in the application list ?

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "I have a question. I just installed the trial. This new version doesn't have the antispyware component?" }-
Yes,it have it.Pay attention when installed it,to check both options if you want,Web Control and Antispyware.On the other hand,if your Outpost was installed without Antispyware option,it means that it auto-disabled this option because of the incompatibility with your AV installed,as Outpost consider that you are already covered with that protection.

-{ Quote: "Devil in the details.........Is it true that the latest version will not allow the user to manually remove anything in the application list ?" }-
No,it isn't.

[m00nbl00d]

-{ Quote: "Devil in the details.........Is it true that the latest version will not allow the user to manually remove anything in the application list ?" }-

You misunderstood me.

I meant that we only can manually removed them. It would be great to have a purge button to remove all invalid entries, as in removing all entries from processes no longer in the system, for example when uninstalling an application.

I even think that such process should be done automatically. Outpost should from time to time verify if such processes still exist and them keep them or remove them accordingly.

[FirePost]

I would hate for Outpost to automatically do this from time to time. I have applications I sometimes run then remove and an automatc removed "deleted" would force me to redo rules.

Now, if there was a button to push that said "These applications seem to be missing. Do you wish to remove related settings?", and a nice list to pick which to remove and ignore, that would be a great feature.

[Rainwalker]

-{ Quote: "You misunderstood me.

I meant that we only can manually removed them. It would be great to have a purge button to remove all invalid entries, as in removing all entries from processes no longer in the system, for example when uninstalling an application.

I even think that such process should be done automatically. Outpost should from time to time verify if such processes still exist and them keep them or remove them accordingly." }-

OK.thanks...I did understand what you posted and it brought to mind something I thought I had read somewhere; that no longer could unneeded apps appearing in the list be removed manually. Incidentally, I for one would rather have manual control and not auto. A purge button option would be fine.

[tekkaman]

-{ Quote: "Yes,it have it.Pay attention when installed it,to check both options if you want,Web Control and Antispyware.On the other hand,if your Outpost was installed without Antispyware option,it means that it auto-disabled this option because of the incompatibility with your AV installed,as Outpost consider that you are already covered with that protection.


No,it isn't." }-

Thanks I just noticed in this version you have to select expert mode to be able to select what to install. I think antispyware is easy enough to install in simple mode but oh well.

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "Thanks I just noticed in this version you have to select expert mode to be able to select what to install. I think antispyware is easy enough to install in simple mode but oh well." }-
Honestly,i wouldn't rely so much on the Antispyware feature,at least IMO.When i had installed OP,i've always unchecked this feature.Because i'm covered already with MBAM pro or SAS pro,and....when the license expires and you don't want to renew it,bye bye updates.;D ...but the other features remain.:thumb: (oh,no auto updates for the software too)

[tekkaman]

-{ Quote: "Honestly,i wouldn't rely so much on the Antispyware feature,at least IMO.When i had installed OP,i've always unchecked this feature.Because i'm covered already with MBAM pro or SAS pro,and....when the license expires and you don't want to renew it,bye bye updates.;D ...but the other features remain.:thumb: (oh,no auto updates for the software too)" }-


Actually I've seen it block some nasties. It's not so bad. I still use Mbam manually of course just in case.

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "Actually I've seen it block some nasties. It's not so bad. I still use Mbam manually of course just in case." }-
Well,it's your choice.And if not slows down your browsing...although for me it was a little slow down with Avast home,and as i said,without the Antispyware feature,only the Web control enabled.

[Sm3K3R]

The version 7 adds some nice features ,but it has some strangeness ,at least in XP 32 bit.
1.It pops up to much ,usless pop ups i would say eventually many times the same
2.The network filtering seems to be like in version 6
- i still get atacks from my DNS even if ii add them in the exclusions
- the firewall doesnt seems to "see" all the trafic.If i install Zone Alarm Pro and use simialr rules for X-Fire for example i see more blocked trafic in the logs in ZA than in Outpost like some blocked ip s are not showen or like some trafic is not intercepted ,using the maximum loging in both.
3.The Web filtering module seems slower than the version 6
4.This version adds some kind of lag in desktop even with Web and Antispyware modules off.
5.It is not specified if OP7 protects against the matousec hated "thingy" :)

Having in mind that OP 7 and ZAP seem both to heavy for my P2 X3 720 BE+4Gigs+SB750 i have to go back to Sunbelt Firewall ,too bad they did not made a W7 version.
The performance practically is unacceptable sorry to say it and as network filtering OP 4 still seem better even if it puts 20 miliseconds in gaming.
Doesnt looked optimized for me ,though seems stable at least.

[Einsturzende]

so screencapture blocking, when?

[JoeBlack40]

If i had any doubt about OP,now i'm pretty sure that i have another reason to dump it.This time for good.The asc.exe process,it uses almost 60% of my CPU,and several times it uses 448MB of RAM (yes,448 MB!).Even if my laptop can handle the RAM problem with 4GB,is unacceptable.To buggy,to heavy...:thumbd:
I've searched on their forum,but found nothing.Just a work on,to disable automatic updates ??? ...done it,and not helped me at all.

[falkor]

Joe .
Sadly this is how it goes so often with Outpost . There are good builds and there are bad ones . I love the firewall . But , I still have to use 6.5 as anything above screws up my email . Go figure . Outpost always contains bugs . It is a matter of which build works on your system . I suggest to try a different build as they come . It is very good if there are few enough bugs for your system .

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "Joe .
Sadly this is how it goes so often with Outpost . There are good builds and there are bad ones . I love the firewall . But , I still have to use 6.5 as anything above screws up my email . Go figure . Outpost always contains bugs . It is a matter of which build works on your system . I suggest to try a different build as they come . It is very good if there are few enough bugs for your system ." }-
OOOOkkkk....i will follow your advice and reinstall the 6 version.Just i don't want a "forced" upgrade.Hope not.

AFTER ALMOST AN HOUR...
UPDATE POST
Damn..this version slow down big time my web browsing.I'm using OP with NOD32 and MBAM pro without Website blocking.This is not happening with the latest version.Oh well...back to OA pro or Comodo.Plain and simple,OP doesn't like my machine.

[Escalader]

The latest "patch" brings OP FW Pro 7.0(3373.514.1234)

It was supposed to fix a conflict between self protection and the update feature. It doesn't fix the issue.

To work around it, turn off self protection turn updates to manual via settings run the update once per boot. Then turn self protection back on.

[falkor]

I am sorry Joe . And I hope you did not think I was pushing you to use OP . I just know how buggy it can be . Right now , I actually use something other than OP because they have yet to get it just right to work on my system . If I can ever be of any help , let me know . I just never want you to feel like I am pushing or pulling you in any direction .

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "I am sorry Joe . And I hope you did not think I was pushing you to use OP . I just know how buggy it can be . Right now , I actually use something other than OP because they have yet to get it just right to work on my system . If I can ever be of any help , let me know . I just never want you to feel like I am pushing or pulling you in any direction ." }-
No problem falkor.It was my decision,not yours.And to be honest,i wanted to try one more time and give OP another chance.But no,definitely NO.
Thank you very much and i appreciate your offer to help me if i need.:thumb:

[falkor]

You are most welcome my friend !:thumb:

[Narxis]

I always loved Outpost in the past, but i had trouble with version 6.7.x, but this new version is very good on my system.

I belive it has some bugs but they are on the right path to make a very good firewall.

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "I always loved Outpost in the past, but i had trouble with version 6.7.x, but this new version is very good on my system.

I belive it has some bugs but they are on the right path to make a very good firewall." }-
I'm glad for you.Although,careful with asc process.;D i've seen on their forum plenty complaints,and as i said,not a solution yet.

[falkor]

The 6.7 version was awful for me . Version 6 was ok . 6.5 did well . Version 7 ? We will see .8)

[Escalader]

-{ Quote: "The latest "patch" brings OP FW Pro 7.0(3373.514.1234)

It was supposed to fix a conflict between self protection and the update feature. It doesn't fix the issue.

To work around it, turn off self protection turn updates to manual via settings run the update once per boot. Then turn self protection back on." }-

For detail see:

http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?p=188719#post188719

[falkor]

Hi Escalader .
It is sad that " certain " people in that forum have to get rude . " He " takes it personally . I am sorry you had to deal with that . Again , we are dealing with people that think what they use is the end all product and how dare you say something that shows there is a problem . Just so you know . " whining " is a strong word and , in my opinion , uncalled for by a Mod . Be that as it may , you have legitimate concerns . I hope it gets rectified for you .

[siberianwolf]

this topic it seems has become a "down w/ opfw" meeting.
name one brand new release of a fw for which the vendor doesn't release a patch to fix certain issues? sure you got the right to criticize, but i see no reason to constantly bash a sw unless you like it. if you don't like it, you simply choose to not use it, you don't bash it, and you just go on and use other vendors' sw's. that's the way it goes.

[falkor]

Well . I actually love the firewall . One of the strongest around . But , I can only use certain builds . I get irritated when a build screws things up for me . So why do I like it ? Because I know how good it is and i want to use it so I use something else until a good build for me comes along . I think most in this thread know how good it can be and want it to work with their system .

[Escalader]

-{ Quote: "Hi Escalader .
It is sad that " certain " people in that forum have to get rude . " He " takes it personally . I am sorry you had to deal with that . Again , we are dealing with people that think what they use is the end all product and how dare you say something that shows there is a problem . Just so you know . " whining " is a strong word and , in my opinion , uncalled for by a Mod . Be that as it may , you have legitimate concerns . I hope it gets rectified for you ." }-

Yes it is sad but I've been my usual relentless self in pointing out the bugs. They are feeling the heat a bit I fear and not just from me.

FWIW, I'm using the product as we post. My goal is to make the product better and fix the errors.

The current issue of looping failed updates was reported prior to the patch to the final release and users are of course frustrated. The only proper way to calm the waters is to fix the bug.

[falkor]

Agreed !!!!

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "Yes it is sad but I've been my usual relentless self in pointing out the bugs. They are feeling the heat a bit I fear and not just from me." }-OP's mod chooses to excuse the number of bugs in OP by comparing it to the number of bugs in a new release of Windows. Good grief, if that is their "standard of excellence" it's no wonder OP is so buggy.

Why don't they compare themselves with new versions of high quality apps such as Defense Wall & Online Armor? I guess the answer is this . . .

If you can't raise the bridge, then grumble because no one has lowered the water. ;)

[Manny Carvalho]

You know guys that you are referring to me. Let me tell you I like to live in the real world. There's no doubt that software has bugs and we try to help out. It does no good for a poster to whine that they are in effect a beta tester because they encountered a problem.

My point is that beta testing does not test all possible configurations. When any software goes public it's bound to encounter situations that where not looked at during the testing. I didn't excuse anything by comparing to Windows. I simply pointed out how the real world works. That's what bug fixes releases are all about. In fact, I've had problems with the latest release myself. I don't excuse it. I want it fixed. What I don't want is an attitude going along with it.

We try to help as much as we can and in a professional manner. Posters should behave similarly and if you want to discuss my behavior you should do it directly at me there where it happened rather than gossiping at the backyard fence.

Here's what I said and where I said it: http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188735&postcount=36

[JoeBlack40]

Hello Manny
Is the asc.exe problem known by the OP staff?The CPU and RAM is going crazy with that process.It will be a solution?Is this a singular problem or what?
Thanks.

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: " It does no good for a poster to whine that they are in effect a beta tester because they encountered a problem.

... if you want to discuss my behavior you should do it directly at me there where it happened rather than gossiping at the backyard fence." }-
Wilders is much more than a backyard fence. It is a forum where real & potential users of security programs can compare notes and experiences -- to learn, & to make purchase decisions.

Further, alerting potential customers to aloof or unfriendly support issues with respect to a given security product is not backyard gossip. It is useful information for making purchase/usage decisions.

Reporting such issues on the support forum of the given security product might be more palatable to that product's own proponents & fans, but (IMO) it would be less fruitful for alerting prospective customers.

Moreover -- "whining" is an inappropriate way to refer to a customer complaint in a support forum, no matter what.

It has been my experience that OP's forum Mods do an oft-thankless job with great competence. But the fact is that Agnitum seems to have "rushed to market" and that situation is something that potential users need to know & freely discuss.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If I didn't already own a lifetime OP license, I would buy one today. I say that because Agnitum made a quantum-leap forward in terms of OP-7's protective power relative to competing FW/classic-HIPS combos.

It is neither surprising nor particularly alarming that OP has a few rough edges. Power often means complexity.

Users who point out rough spots (whether by "whines" or otherwise) are doing a needed service. I am sure that Agnitum will smooth out the rough spots as quickly as can be effectively accomplished.

[Manny Carvalho]

You mistake me for an Agnitum employee. I'm not. Rather, I'm user just like you. People should feel free to report any issues they feel are important. Just stick to the issues and leave the rest alone.

I've had my say. Y'all carry on in your best tradition.

[Escalader]

-{ Quote: "Wilders is much more than a backyard fence. It is a forum where real & potential users of security programs can compare notes and experiences -- to learn, & to make purchase decisions.

Further, alerting potential customers to aloof or unfriendly support issues with respect to a given security product is not backyard gossip. It is useful information for making purchase/usage decisions.

Reporting such issues on the support forum of the given security product might be more palatable to that product's own proponents & fans, but (IMO) it would be less fruitful for alerting prospective customers.

Moreover -- "whining" is an inappropriate way to refer to a customer complaint in a support forum, no matter what.

It has been my experience that OP's forum Mods do an oft-thankless job with great competence. But the fact is that Agnitum seems to have "rushed to market" and that situation is something that potential users need to know & freely discuss.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If I didn't already own a lifetime OP license, I would buy one today. I say that because Agnitum made a quantum-leap forward in terms of OP-7's protective power relative to competing FW/classic-HIPS combos.

It is neither surprising nor particularly alarming that OP has a few rough edges. Power often means complexity.

Users who point out rough spots (whether by "whines" or otherwise) are doing a needed service. I am sure that Agnitum will smooth out the rough spots as quickly as can be effectively accomplished." }-


Hi bellgamin:

Yes thanks for your support. I'm the guy who made the triggering post.

Sometimes things get hot at forums, believe me I know.

Diverse approaches to security policy and software quality expectations are certainly annoying particularly if not shared.

Nobody who knows this business expects perfection. But some errors are avoidable especially reported ones.

[Toby75]

Can someone help me out...should I allow or deny this. No option for preset rule configuration. I want my system as close to leak proof as possible.

BTW, Manny, I appreciate all that you do. :)

Thanks,

Toby

[wat0114]

-{ Quote: "Can someone help me out...should I allow or deny this. No option for preset rule configuration. I want my system as close to leak proof as possible.
" }-

Just hit "Block Once" and see what happens. But I'm betting you need to allow it permanently ;)

[Toby75]

-{ Quote: "Just hit "Block Once" and see what happens. But I'm betting you need to allow it permanently ;)" }-

Thanks wat,

Can I make a specific rule to allow explorer to modify memory only for IE or does it have to be for all other apps as well?

[Manny Carvalho]

Thank you.

That might of happened because you opened IE from a link on your desktop. Something you did in Windows Explorer is modifying IE's memory space. That's a pretty standard thing and acceptable.

You can modify any application anti-leak settings uniquely via the the application rules settings but it's not other application specific. You allow IE, for example, to modify process memory injection or not. So once IE is allowed to do that, it can do it for all applications. The attachment shows the default for IE.

I'm a little surprised that you don't show a preset for explorer. Did you turn off ImproveNet? Are you having any other troubles?

[Toby75]

-{ Quote: "Thank you.

That might of happened because you opened IE from a link on your desktop. That's a pretty standard thing and acceptable.

You can modify any application anti-leak settings uniquely via the the application rules settings. The attachment shows the default for IE." }-

Thanks Manny,

Are there any services that you would limit...ie, services.exe, taskmgr.exe, werfault.exe, iexplore.exe, explorer.exe. I don't mean deny everything just specific limitations. I use my computer to test malware and want it to be extremely protected against process manipulation.

I have already made limitations to CMD, wscript, cscript, rundll32.

Any others that you would limit?

Thanks again,

Toby

[Manny Carvalho]

I don't test malware but if you do than perhaps you want the firewall/system to operate normally to see if it catches your malware. I would think the point of protection is to make the system more useable without disabling needed services. What is needed certainly is a personal definition though.

Disabling some services does offer some protection but overall it impacts useability more. I don't usually make recommendation to disable services because of that but you can find many suggestions on the net. Obviously those with know vulnerabilities are another matter. One well know site that offers such advice is black viper. He's done probably the best overall study on this issue with services: http://www.blackviper.com/

[Toby75]

-{ Quote: "I don't test malware but if you do than perhaps you want the firewall/system to operate normally to see if it catches your malware. I would think the point of protection is to make the system more useable without disabling needed services. What is needed certainly is a personal definition though.

Disabling some services does offer some protection but overall it impacts useability more. I don't usually make recommendation to disable services because of that but you can find many suggestions on the net. Obviously those with know vulnerabilities are another matter. One well know site that offers such advice is black viper. He's done probably the best overall study on this issue with services: http://www.blackviper.com/" }-

Great site! - tweaks for Vista very informative. ;D

[Escalader]

-{ Quote: "Thanks Manny,

Are there any services that you would limit...ie, services.exe, taskmgr.exe, werfault.exe, iexplore.exe, explorer.exe. I don't mean deny everything just specific limitations. I use my computer to test malware and want it to be extremely protected against process manipulation.

I have already made limitations to CMD, wscript, cscript, rundll32.

Any others that you would limit?

Thanks again,

Toby" }-



Toby, have a look at this post. It was on May 10, 2010.

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1675380&postcount=43


You probably know this, but for others here, it's different to limit an application like FF or IE to not allow them certain privileges using OP 7 or OA for that matter and to disable MS services you don't need.

2 services I always disable are time (my pc knows the time) and Netbios as I don't share resources.

The less phoning out the better and the fewer rules we need to filter through.

For me ( not others) it is an issue not only of security but

1) Ownership, the PC is mine
2) Privacy by avoiding phone outs

Your view may be different;D

[tekkaman]

I have a question. Is there a way to import a list or something that includes all fullscreen aplications in the computer so it doesn't ask anymore ?

[Manny Carvalho]

-{ Quote: "I have a question. Is there a way to import a list or something that includes all fullscreen aplications in the computer so it doesn't ask anymore ?" }-
No. The firewall detects when an application is attempting to use full screen. The only options are to either turn it off totally in Settings > General or individually for each application in its Options tab.

[acuariano]

there is a new version out 7.01 ..
wonder if you guys know.

[twl845]

-{ Quote: "there is a new version out 7.01 ..
wonder if you guys know." }-
Thanks for the info. I don't get any notification from OP. :)

[Escalader]

-{ Quote: "Thanks for the info. I don't get any notification from OP. :)" }-


Hi twl845:

What is your experience so far with OP FW Pro 7.x?

What do you like?

What do you not like?

Are you waiting on any tickets? I know I am.

[twl845]

-{ Quote: "Hi twl845:

What is your experience so far with OP FW Pro 7.x?

What do you like?

What do you not like?

Are you waiting on any tickets? I know I am." }-

Hi Escalader,
OP FW Pro v7 has performed flawlessly for my needs. As you know, I am not a techie so all the automatic features are appreciated. I basically let it do its thing. The only thing I dislike is like I mentioned, there is no notification of upgrades in a pop up like you might find at my browser Firefox. I only become aware from reading Wilder's posts. Maybe I missed something.
I am not waiting on any tickets. :)

[Escalader]

-{ Quote: "Hi Escalader,
OP FW Pro v7 has performed flawlessly for my needs. As you know, I am not a techie so all the automatic features are appreciated. I basically let it do its thing. The only thing I dislike is like I mentioned, there is no notification of upgrades in a pop up like you might find at my browser Firefox. I only become aware from reading Wilder's posts. Maybe I missed something.
I am not waiting on any tickets. :)" }-



My experience on the Windows 7 64 bit version has been different. :'(