Newcomer to this Wilders

[Slam Dunkley]

Hi guys, I am new to this website, I just wanted to ask a question what do people think of Norton Internet Security 2010, is it good? Is it the best?
If you have any views can you back them up with evidence?

Thank you

Slam Dunkley :)

[Noob]

Norton Internet Security 2010 HAVE improved a lot, it's no longer a resource hog as it was before and have a good protection.
In fact it won AV-C award for best overall 2010 program :P

[Slam Dunkley]

Thank you for your input Noob :)

[JRViejo]

Slam Dunkley, I moved your post to this Forum to gain more exposure.

JR

[Sully]

I think you can do as good or better for free if you choose to.

Sul.

[Slam Dunkley]

Yeah you think so? do have any evidence to back up what your saying tho?
thanks for your input :)

[jmonge]

i tested norton few weeks ago and the security tool rouge malware bypassed norton;D but it was the antivirus not the security suite:)

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Yeah you think so? do have any evidence to back up what your saying tho?
thanks for your input :)" }-

Don't mislead by words. Sully is one of the most experienced person i have ever met on this Wilders forum. He just want to tell you that you can choose free AV's like Avira, Avast and Panda Cloud. They really have nice detection rate.

If you still want to see then you can check out the latest AV Comparitives test result where Avast did very well.

Secondly you can implement LUA, SRP policy, which will give you 99.9% protection from various malwares to understand this you can ask Sully who is master in this...
:D

[Slam Dunkley]

Really? I was just speaking to an expert? wow no way I am honored :) But AvinashR the reason I asked is because anyone can say this is better alternative, but can they prove it, that's what I'm getting at, you telling me he is an expert I have nothing but respect for him, so I will take his feedback on board :) thanks

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Really? I was just speaking to an expert? wow no way I am honored :) But AvinashR the reason I asked is because anyone can say this is better alternative, but can they prove it, that's what I'm getting at, you telling me he is an expert I have nothing but respect for him, so I will take his feedback on board :) thanks" }-

Your Welcome.

See you can roam Wilders and you'll get sufficient amount information. Many members are not even running any AV or AS. They rely only on LUA and SRP only. As far is i am concerned :P , i am relying on NIS 2010 only, because i have already implemented other in-built protection like LUA, AppLocker, DEP etc etc.

[lubieplacki]

Im using a Norton Internet Security on my notebook. This is a good software, SONAR can detects lots of 0-days, but firewall is bad. My mark for this program is 4/5. You can use it without problems.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Im using a Norton Internet Security on my notebook. This is a good software, SONAR can detects lots of 0-days, but firewall is bad. My mark for this program is 4/5. You can use it without problems." }-

As far as you are behind NAT Router, you are pretty much safe from intruders. Keep in mind that Nobody is interested to hack your PC, because they merely get any confidential information. Hackers love to break Company's security setup, not the individual's one.

[Franklin]

And there are some here at Wilders (well at least one) that use a full blown admin account with no realtime AV/AM or security suite then download and run any and all types of malware yet their system never gets infected.

[Slam Dunkley]

-{ Quote: "Im using a Norton Internet Security on my notebook. This is a good software, SONAR can detects lots of 0-days, but firewall is bad. My mark for this program is 4/5. You can use it without problems." }-

When you say the firewall is bad, what exactly do you mean? is your opionion based off Norton failing the matousec leak test?

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "When you say the firewall is bad, what exactly do you mean? is your opionion based off Norton failing the matousec leak test?" }-

May be his comments are purely based on Matousec test. Anyways no need bash Matousec again...:P

Even some years ago i also rely too much on Matousec but now i am grown up kid:D :P

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "And there are some here at Wilders (well at least one) that use a full blown admin account with no realtime AV/AM or security suite then download and run any and all types of malware yet their system never gets infected." }-

Yeah u's right bro. And i guess you are the one in that group...;D

[Slam Dunkley]

Someone from said that Norton said that their product failed the matousec test because it didn't see most of matousec's attacks as real attacks, this is what I remember seeing in a post, I dunno, I could be wrong :)

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Someone from said that Norton said that their product failed the matousec test because it didn't see most of matousec's attacks as real attacks, this is what I remember seeing in a post, I dunno, I could be wrong :)" }-

I don't know about that, but many vendors said this...that Matousec tests are not valid tests. I have no comments for the same.

[Kees1958]

-{ Quote: "And there are some here at Wilders (well at least one) that use a full blown admin account with no realtime AV/AM or security suite then download and run any and all types of malware yet their system never gets infected." }-

after reboot, that is I presume


The other day I walked amongst hyenas, roared to lions, threw bananas to Elephants in must. Was this virtual reality, a sunny day at the Zoo, or did I just need a re-boot?


Kees

[Franklin]

-{ Quote: "after reboot, that is I presume
Kees" }-
Nah Kees, after deleting the sandbox which is way more convenient than a reboot to clear an infection.

I do fire up a VM every now and then but Sandboxie is my mainstay security app and my main malware testing app.

[NoIos]

-{ Quote: "Hi guys, I am new to this website, I just wanted to ask a question what do people think of Norton Internet Security 2010, is it good? Is it the best?" }-

Good yes.
Best? Only you can tell it. The best product is the one that fits best your needs.

[Slam Dunkley]

-{ Quote: "
The best product is the one that fits best your needs." }-

That's true to a certain degree, but the av tests.org and other av testing companies prove not all security suites are equal, some are just generally better than others.

[Saraceno]

Slam, aka Michael Jordan, Norton is a great program and it should fit the bill nicely.

Some people don't have the cash though, some people like chopping and changing programs, so even if they bought the program, it'd be a waste as they'd change programs in the next month. All depends on what you want, you play games, browse risky sites, test programs often and so on.

There are programs which can rollback changes made to your system after reboot (Returnil, Shadow Defender etc). Some people use Sandboxie to 'contain' and 'trap' say your browser and all downloads within it, and discard this information afterwards. Which means, sandboxie and a simple AV (Avira, Avast, Panda), could effectively be more robust than any suite. DefenseWall is another program to look into.

Some people reinforce their free AV, such as Avast, Avira, Panda, Microsoft Security Essentials (the list goes on) with a secondary program to monitor system changes and malicious behaviour, like Mamutu, or ThreatFire (plenty more to the list).

Some people use Prevx to complement their security, which connects to the 'cloud' is quick to react to threats and has great support on here. Some people use Prevx with another cloud scanner, Hitman Pro, doubling the checking of files with the company's database and other users. Some people use Prevx on its own, nothing more, nothing less (I'd happily use it on its own).

Some people rely on strong firewalls, like Online Armor, Outpost, or Comodo.

There are many more to add, you just have to find what works best with your system, doesn't cause it to hang or crash, and is a program you understand and feel comfortable with - other users using your system must also understand the program and alerts.

[whitedragon551]

You can always try out the NIS2011 beta right now as well if you wish to:

http://www.symantec.com/norton/beta/index.jsp

[Sully]

I am honored to be held in such high esteem.

But the reason I said what I did, is because the proof you look for is about as tangible as Matousecs, or really most any comparison.

One mans trash is another mans treasure. Most all AVs will produce great results with known virus files. Most of them will produce adequate results for new threats, but the gap does grow in this respect.

The bottom line though is that while many people do benefit from an AV, you are always behind the current threats, waiting for the updates.

I offer no solution. You will find many here. I just don't believe that the proof you desire really exists in the way you wish it did.

Sul.

[AvinashR]

That's a typical Sully Comment....

[Saraceno]

Confucius says:

"The people may be made to follow a path of action, but they may not be made to understand it." ;)

[Sully]

-{ Quote: "Confucius says:

"The people may be made to follow a path of action, but they may not be made to understand it." ;)" }-
LOL.

That reminds me of Johnny Carson...

Confucious say:
Wise man see more from mountain top than blind man see from bottom of septic tank.

Sul.

[wat0114]

Slam Dunkley,

what are you system specs, such as hardware and O/S? It's hard to offer advice because nobody really knows what's going to work best for you, but at least knowing what you're using can help narrow it down a bit. Is Norton "the best"? Who knows. Maybe it will be for you. From my recent experience for simple, no nonsense and a highly effective solution, Sandboxie is excellent, "The Dog's Bollocks", so to speak ;D Seriously, I have tremendous faith in it for use on my kid's machines. ~ a year later and no problems whatsoever. There are other products similar to it that could work equally as well or better for you. Truthfully, I'm not a fan of resident av solutions. I use only MBAM for on-demand, though, if I doubt the file's integrity.

Almost forgot, Blue's got some nice reading here (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=1538690#post1538690). A worthy read to be sure.

[Slam Dunkley]

-{ Quote: "Slam Dunkley,

what are you system specs, such as hardware and O/S? It's hard to offer advice because nobody really knows what's going to work best for you, but at least knowing what you're using can help narrow it down a bit. Is Norton "the best"? Who knows. Maybe it will be for you. From my recent experience for simple, no nonsense and a highly effective solution, Sandboxie is excellent, "The Dog's Bollocks", so to speak ;D Seriously, I have tremendous faith in it for use on my kid's machines. ~ a year later and no problems whatsoever. There are other products similar to it that could work equally as well or better for you. Truthfully, I'm not a fan of resident av solutions. I use only MBAM for on-demand, though, if I doubt the file's integrity.

Almost forgot, Blue's got some nice reading here (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=1538690#post1538690). A worthy read to be sure." }-
Hi wat0114, I really don't need advice for what av to use, I just wanted to start a debate, I was role playing, pretending that I am a complete newbie to security programs to what people would say about Norton, whether it was bad or good and give evidence instead of opinions, but thank you for your help :). but Norton is my baby :)

[Sully]

-{ Quote: "Hi wat0114, I really don't need advice for what av to use, I just wanted to start a debate, I was role playing, pretending that I am a complete newbie to security programs to what people would say about Norton, whether it was bad or good and give evidence instead of opinions, but thank you for your help :). but Norton is my baby :)" }-
Is this true?

:thumbd:

Honesty is the best policy...

Sul.

[ronjor]

-{ Quote: "I really don't need advice for what av to use, I just wanted to start a debate" }-Seems to be a lot of that going around these days.

Old saying: "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."

Personally, I would apologize to those that tried to answer your questions.