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DV Dee
March 27th, 2010, 07:28 PM
My OS is Win XP Pro. Recently I've been getting some Blue Screens of Death (BSOD). The most recent gave me an error message (in part)that read:
Sbhips.sys Address B81C9BB1 base at B81C8000, Datestamp 485a77cb
Sbhips.sys is a system file associated with Sunbelt Personal Firewall, which is the firewall I use. (A Google search lead me to many other forums' postings complaining about SPF and associated BSODs. Some posters suggest disabling the system file Sbhips.sys, but I think that's an invitation to malicious intruders)
I did post the associated minidump to another web forum, and their primary analysis did indeed point to Sunbelt PF as a major player, but not necessarily the only one; some drivers may have been also involved.???
Since much of that initial minidump analysis is beyond my technical ken, would it be possible to post it here in the hope of further plain-spoken interpretation?
Thanks!
Cudni
March 27th, 2010, 09:18 PM
sure, post it here.
act8192
March 27th, 2010, 09:20 PM
SBhips.sys is the Sunbelt's host intrusion protection system driver (HIPS) bundled into the firewall product. Loads very early during system boot, IIRC.
I've used it happily alone or even in conjunction with the classic HIPS monitor, SSM. I've had it enabled and disabled. No BSODs here. Using XP-home and XP-Pro SP2 and SP3.
So, while you can turn it off in cmd window (sc config sbhips start= disabled), i'll first be looking at some conflict with existing other security program(s), regardless whether currently installed or uninstalled, since most uninstallations don't uninstall correctly and treat your computer like a garbage can.
Finally, consider sending by email your mini-dumps directly to Sunbelt Support. They're likely to help.
DV Dee
March 28th, 2010, 02:39 PM
I'm attaching a copy of my most recent Minidump, debugged by a tech on another forum. I was thankful for their debugging effort, but it's hard for me to translate the analysis, as I'm not a technician!
My own security programs installed are: Sunbelt Personal Firewall;CounterSpy; Avast anti-virus and a trial version of Malwarebytes.
Thanks for your efforts in helping me get to the bottom of the BSODs. (Sorry if the text in the attachment is all run together, but I can't include attachments in MS Word here, it seems.)
Cudni
March 28th, 2010, 03:02 PM
I found your post, the included file there reads better ;)
http://www.pchelpforum.com/blue-screen-errors/85478-blue-screen-death-irql-error-message-5.html
next time it crashes post the minidump file maybe using Vipre Premium will make a difference
DV Dee
March 28th, 2010, 05:02 PM
I'd be happy to post the next minidump file here, but you can't attach .dmp format files, according to the Forum rules....???
I'm holding off on using Vipre Premium, because it seems to be causing a rash of re-boots.
DV Dee
March 30th, 2010, 07:42 PM
-{ Quote: "sure, post it here." }-
When should I check in about explanations/analysis of the minidump debugging?
Thanks.
Cudni
March 30th, 2010, 07:52 PM
in essence your firewall does not agree with your config. now, you can indeed follow suggestion of disabling the .sys or maybe try some other firewall in case it works better on you machine.
act8192
March 31st, 2010, 07:54 PM
Quoting from the other forum, I think there are conflicts with AVAST! drivers
b41a7000 b41be000 aswMon2 \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\aswMon2.SYS unavailable (00000000)
Conflict
b431a000 b431d280 ndisuio \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\ndisuio.sys Wed Aug 04 07:03:10 2004 (41107C1E)
b436a000 b436d000 aswFsBlk aswFsBlk.SYS unavailable (00000000)
Conflict
b4666000 b467d480 dump_atapi \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\dump_atapi.sys Wed Aug 04 06:59:41 2004 (41107B4D)
b46a6000 b46cd000 aswSP \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\aswSP.SYS unavailable (00000000)
Conflict
DV Dee
April 1st, 2010, 06:47 PM
Thanks (both)...I wonder what combo of firewall & anti-virus wouldn't conflict (no BSODs) in a Win XP Pro environment--any suggestions?
Meanwhile, would a BIOS flash update be of some benefit, even though I
just installed my Asus P5Q Pro Turbo mobo in Feb.?
goldrushtech
May 26th, 2010, 06:19 PM
Obvious choice is Vipre Premium by Sunbelt which combines Vipre AV and the Sunbelt Personal Firewall. Not sure where you are but you can get it here www.vipre.com.au (http://www.vipre.com.au)
Just the disclaimer, this is a Gold Rush Technology website....
Just make sure you completely remove Avast. Otherwise you will may get the issue with the sbhips
0strodamus
May 26th, 2010, 08:58 PM
I would stay with avast! and dump Sunbelt (IMHO this is the obvious choice ;) ). I'm using Malware Defender and Jetico Personal Firewall on Windows XP SP3 without any problems at all. Malware Defender is free now and has basic firewall capabilities if that is all you need. Also FWIW, my setup has been running trouble-free for many months now, so I'm not giving you advice based on only a few weeks experience.
EDIT: Working link to the free version is here (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1683092&postcount=379).
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