Avira webguard

[twistedvincent]

Does anybody know how I can successfully use Avira WITH webguard enabled without it slowing my downloads?? I previously read a post that basically said the slowdown was a figment of my(our)imagination, and there wasn't really a slowdown at all...........which is crap.
Any ideas???

[CloneRanger]

Can't truly answer that, but actually you don't really need it i've found when i had Premium ;D

Avira will intercept any nasty it's aware of on download, and if you set heuristics to high/max it will even intercept things not yet in it's definitions. As Avira is tops for detections, you're very well protected :)

[Jager]

I was looking at getting Avira after seeing it's good detection rates in the last year. I found my browsing/file download slowed down, found it was the Webguard. It's caching everything on a page or file download first and scanning it, then delivering it to your browser(I did some searching for answers). So if you want to leave it on you'll get a delay in browsing webpages, and file download speed will look cut down. To see the real speed for a larger file download you can enable webguards progress bar in configuration. Webguard also makes speedtest.net screw up(it's delivered faster to the browser after the caching delay, so it make it thinks you have an extremely high dl speed whn you don't).

Even though it makes it very secure, it's too intrusive to me. I'd like to be able to browse normally. I'm wondering how safe it is to turn off though?

Do other antiviruses have equivelents of webguard? Or do they just have on-access file scan like Avira's "Guard' (not Webguard) feature. I'm wondering if I'm still getting similar protection if I turn it off, or I should try another antivirus/security suite that handles things differently.

[johnyjohn]

Hi,

Because WebGuard acts like a proxy, the reported speed might be inaccurate.

As Jager said, the files you want to download are in fact downloaded by WebGuard. When the downloads are completed, WebGuard scans the files and if everything is clean, the files are sent to the browser. That's why the download speed seems to be low.

You can perform the download of a big file with WebGuard enabled and then disabled and measure download times using a stopwatch. Then please compare the 2 times.

[andyman35]

I've found that observing the download manager progress in Opera when downloading a file with webguard enabled,the progress bar will often go seemingly slowly up to about 60-65% then rapidly complete.Overall on the few comparisons I've measured the overall time taken with and without WG the difference has been negligible.

[johnyjohn]

-{ Quote: "I've measured the overall time taken with and without WG the difference has been negligible." }-
You're absolutely right !

[bollity]

i think webguard is useless for advanced users.
every antivirus with webguard feature will slow down the connection.
my advice is : go for avira free + malewarebytes free.

[johnyjohn]

-{ Quote: "i think webguard is useless for advanced users." }-
I do not agree : http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1627935&postcount=224

[laopa]

Hi,

Months later and I would have to agree that Avira WebGuard does slow down my Internet Speed. I run Avira AntiVir Premium and WebGuard is a waste of time.

A lot of us out here may already be using a proxy such as Proxomitron or even Sandboxie then why do we need a second proxy like WebGuard to download, cache, scan and then upload data to your browser.

It does take time and it does slow down the Internet generally, certainly streaming, and yes downloads.

I turn the "sucker" off and everything is better.

WebGuard and Luke are just doubling up and wasting time and speed.

R.I.P. Avira WebGuard.

laopa::)

[Osaban]

-{ Quote: "
A lot of us out here may already be using a proxy such as Proxomitron or even Sandboxie then why do we need a second proxy like WebGuard to download, cache, scan and then upload data to your browser.
" }-

This has already been discussed at length, and with a layered defense one can do without web guard. A lot of people are running only with Avira in which case running web guard would add to their security.

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1627935&postcount=224" }-
Marcus's statement should be pinned at the top of this forum :isay:

[trjam]

If web guard slowed my browsing down in the least, I would not use it. It doesnt on all computers and actually works very well. In older versions this may have been true, but I honestly dont think so any more.

[mike21]

Same with me. It doesn't give me any delays

[The Hammer]

-{ Quote: "Same with me. It doesn't give me any delays" }-
I'm the same.:thumb:

[laopa]

Hi,

Not wishing to cause a problem here and get Modded or Banned but one of the prime quoted arguments against Avira WebGuard being a problem is supplied by "johnyjohn", now if you bother to go and look on the Avira Support Forum you will find that one of the Moderators is a "dude" named, yes, you guessed it, Profile of johnyjohn = Avira Rank Moderator. So either your own Wilder Security "johnyjohn" is just an independent "expert" and Avira Guru, or not maybe not so independent $%&*@!?

I leave it to greater minds than my own to work out, but dispite "johnyjohn's rentopinion" Avira WebGuard still "cripples" your Internet Speed, particularly if you are using another primary proxy server.

Could be farewell or removed but not justified.

laopa:doubt:

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "So either your own Wilder Security "johnyjohn" is just an independent "expert" and Avira Guru, or not maybe not so independent $%&*@!?" }-
Just like other Norton "experts" and "unbiased independent reviews" from the other threads? I'm not sure really.

-{ Quote: "Not wishing to cause a problem here and get Modded or Banned" }-
I don't see any reason why anyone should do this, it's your opinion and/or your own experience on Webguard.

For most of users, however, it's working very well.

[Securon]

Good Evening ! I'm currently using Avira Premium...and haven't had any problems with Web Guard or Pro-Activ...Avira is quick and nimble...but as we all know depending on your apps and system...everyone at times encounters varying results. Sincerely...Securon

[Mongol]

The only times I have noticed a slight slow down with the webguard is on relly graphics intensive pages, otherwise no noticeable slow downs at all.

[kuki68ster]

Unfortunately i also noticed slowdowns when using avira with webguard...I hope they solve this ''issue'' as fast as possible....

[NAMOR]

I sometimes get page loading delays/stalls using Chrome as my browser, Firefox and IE seem fine though.

[laopa]

Hi,

Got this feedback on the WebGuard issue this morning from a post on the Emsisoft Forum. Thought it was interesting.

-{ Quote: "As far as I know the avira webguard can slow down your navigation quite a bit. I have encounter this problem in the past and noticed that the webguard was slowing only browser that use 1 process per tab (chrome & ie) and was not slowing unique process browser (firefox). I have done a test about 10 month ago, opening 31 random tabs at once in chrome, with these result :

Without Avira Antivir Premium Webguard : 18 sec
With Avira Antivir Premium Webguard : 3 min 35 sec

The webguard was creating a kind of bottleneck. Note that these test have been done with the version 9 of avira and with and older chrome version too, version 4 I think." }-

Full post is at. (if that is allowed?)

-{ Quote: "http://support.emsisoft.com/topic/2626-avira-webguard-and-emsisoft-anti-malware-free/" }-

laopa:blink:

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[Marcus Matten]

Johnyjohn is a mod on our forum, but not an employee.
Our mods are not receiving payment of any kind, afaik the only thing they get is an invitation to our yearly summer party, can't remember him attending though ;)

I guess he can certainly be called a fan of our product/company, otherwise he wouldn't spend so much time in our forums trying to help our users.

You are entitled to have different opinions than him of course (and me, as my post has been referenced in here), but please refrain from accusing him of 'being bought' when he expresses his views. Our loyal fans are important to us, but we do not pay them. I'd prefer any true fan over a horde of 'opinion mercenaries'.

If anyone can be called biased in this discussion, its probably me. Because i DO get payed by Avira :)

Still, what I post here are my personal views and beliefs that I would not compromise for any money in the world. Of course, again, you have to trust me on that, which admittedly is kind of hard nowadays ;)

[century]

I am a bit old & old-fashioned. Can't understand what is the tearing hurry in downloading an important file from the internet, while compromising security. After all it is just a few seconds delay.

[zerotox]

The problem is not simply with file download. As mentioned, there is quite a delay when opening pictures (graphics) intensive web-pages. I like Avira very much but can't they redesign their web-guard - they should've got tired already of answering endless, ongoing questios about web-guard slowing down internet (see their forum as well). Can't they implement it like ESET (for example) - to have an option to not scan the whole file (as in Active protection in NOD32) but the last few bits, and those who want, like in ESET, can enable the safer option of scanning it in its whole? Also include an option to set redirection through their proxy only for web browsers and e-mail clients.

[socialdistortion]

Has anyone noticed that Avira webguard does not scan traffic of Firefox 4 beta 5. I checked and double checked. It scans normally for IE 8.

I have win 7 64 bit.

Thanks!

[m0unds]

-{ Quote: "Has anyone noticed that Avira webguard does not scan traffic of Firefox 4 beta 5. I checked and double checked. It scans normally for IE 8.

I have win 7 64 bit.

Thanks!" }-

i'd imagine it probably has something to do with that being a beta.

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "Our loyal fans are important to us, but we do not pay them. I'd prefer any true fan over a horde of 'opinion mercenaries'" }-
:thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[rookieman]

If I turned off Webguard and turned on Malwarebytes paid version.Would this be more secure or cause the same slowdowns?

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "If I turned off Webguard and turned on Malwarebytes paid version.Would this be more secure or cause the same slowdowns?" }-
My advice is to have both active and see for yourself how it goes first. MBAM was designed to complement any AV. I use MBAM for on-demand scans only.

[ugly]

-{ Quote: "Marcus's statement should be pinned at the top of this forum :isay:" }-

I like Stefan's more ;)

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1073294&postcount=29

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "I like Stefan's more ;)

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1073294&postcount=29" }-
That statement has the same weight, especially this part:
-{ Quote: "When you have a HTTP scanner, all malware that comes to your computer through HTTP traffic will be scanned, analysed (and blocked) *before* it is handed over to the browser. So if you are surfing on a web page with exploits on it which are directly executed in memory of the browser (such as ANI, WMF, JPG etc.), this is the only way to stop them before they activate - except using a HIPS. An on-access guard will eventually catch these files aswell - AFTER the browser has parsed, displayed and executed them - too late! The on-access scanner only sees the browser cache files, not the traffic before." }-
;)