Kaspersky Antivirus and Internet Security 2011 Beta

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

Over at the Kaspersky forums, I just saw a new forum about the 2011 Beta, though there is no install file online yet.
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showforum=16
(You have to be registered to view the foum)

[Sjoeii]

It could take some time before beta starts. please be patient

[Legendkiller]

that sounds interesting...............haven't beta-tested in years...........i think i am game for this one.........

[icr]

Hmmm the first BETA of 2010(actually avast and avira were but this is first one to start in 2010)

I will keep checking their forum gonna be fun testing Kaspersky for the first time;D

[RejZoR]

I'm not joining any of their beta tests ever again. I used to work on KAV 2009 since they showcased its prototype and in the end they haven't even said thank you. I got no reward for it either while some who reported few things here and there got free license for it later on. It was totally dissapointing and lame.

[icr]

-{ Quote: "I'm not joining any of their beta tests ever again. I used to work on KAV 2009 since they showcased its prototype and in the end they haven't even said thank you. I got no reward for it either while some who reported few things here and there got free license for it later on. It was totally dissapointing and lame." }-

I think Sjoeii and some other members will enlighten you something about this:)

[steve1955]

-{ Quote: "I'm not joining any of their beta tests ever again. I used to work on KAV 2009 since they showcased its prototype and in the end they haven't even said thank you. I got no reward for it either while some who reported few things here and there got free license for it later on. It was totally dissapointing and lame." }-

Take it you're only interested in testing a product if there is something in it for you?If I join any test it is because I am intrested in its developement not for reward!

[icr]

-{ Quote: "Take it you're only interested in testing a product if there is something in it for you?If I join any test it is because I am intrested in its developement not for reward!" }-


Well I just second your opinion in my case:D
Actually I am interested in both the dev part and the reward part:shifty:

[Legendkiller]

why won't you like to earn reward? anyhow beta-testing is a thankless job......

[Technic]

-{ Quote: "I'm not joining any of their beta tests ever again. I used to work on KAV 2009 since they showcased its prototype and in the end they haven't even said thank you. I got no reward for it either while some who reported few things here and there got free license for it later on. It was totally dissapointing and lame." }-

No worries! You have avast! there! :argh:

[icr]

-{ Quote: "why won't you like to earn reward? anyhow beta-testing is a thankless job......" }-

It is but I do like to test I have tested till now avast, avira:)

[RejZoR]

-{ Quote: "Take it you're only interested in testing a product if there is something in it for you?If I join any test it is because I am intrested in its developement not for reward!" }-

Sorry, but thats just load of bollocks. I'm not expecting a month salary of a lead programmer or unlimited number of licenses of Internet Security suite.
It's about small things of appreciation. ALWIL guys sent me a pack of small gifts directly from Czech few years ago as a thanks for helping them out on forums on daily basis and testing their software and reporting bugs and malware. And it was nothing big really, a cool pen with avast! name on it, a digital clock, notebook security lock and a T-shirt with avast! name on it. It's not much, but when you think of it, it gives a warm and fuzzy feeling when people in that company actually care about individuals and show that in any way they can.

So, they could have given me a license, they could have given me a Gold beta tester tag on their forums or at least say plain thank you.
And what have they done when i just mentioned this? They made bunch of lame excuses. Can you imagine that? They could say, sorry we can't give you a license at this point but thanks for the help, we'll at least give you a special tag on forums. Did that happen? Nope. And that has to cost like a fortune right? It's about small things, but some just don't get it...

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: " I'm not expecting a month salary of a lead programmer or unlimited number of licenses of Internet Security suite.
It's about small things of appreciation. " }-

Very true, I have only tested a few products but it very true that small things really make you feel appreciated. I like when they put you down as a beta tester on the forums or offer you a gift. Even just getting a thanks for your suggestion is nice. I never ask for unlimited license keys but just one to thank you for your support is always nice.

I have never beta tested for Kaspersky so I don't know how they do their beta testing.

[steve1955]

-{ Quote: "Sorry, but thats just load of bollocks. I'm not expecting a month salary of a lead programmer or unlimited number of licenses of Internet Security suite.
It's about small things of appreciation. ALWIL guys sent me a pack of small gifts directly from Czech few years ago as a thanks for helping them out on forums on daily basis and testing their software and reporting bugs and malware. And it was nothing big really, a cool pen with avast! name on it, a digital clock, notebook security lock and a T-shirt with avast! name on it. It's not much, but when you think of it, it gives a warm and fuzzy feeling when people in that company actually care about individuals and show that in any way they can.

So, they could have given me a license, they could have given me a Gold beta tester tag on their forums or at least say plain thank you.
And what have they done when i just mentioned this? They made bunch of lame excuses. Can you imagine that? They could say, sorry we can't give you a license at this point but thanks for the help, we'll at least give you a special tag on forums. Did that happen? Nope. And that has to cost like a fortune right? It's about small things, but some just don't get it..." }-

well sounds like you only do it for what you can get,even if as you say they are only small things,do you bank at the bank that gives you most gifts as well,Barclays used to give loads of stuff away but other things mattered to me more like their involvement in south africa pre Mandela,what matters to me if I beta test is the product not some tiny little thing to make me feel good!

[TheIgster]

Not so long ago, I had my own software company and whenever we had a beta, we had people sign up, they were selected and everyone who participated (that is, answered the surveys that were sent out) got a free license for the product. I personally think that is fair and is easy to hand out at no cost for the developer.

[steve1955]

-{ Quote: "Not so long ago, I had my own software company and whenever we had a beta, we had people sign up, they were selected and everyone who participated (that is, answered the surveys that were sent out) got a free license for the product. I personally think that is fair and is easy to hand out at no cost for the developer." }-

I don't think its wrong for a company to reward beta-testers but just because a company doesn't wouldn't stop me testing if it was a product type I had an interest in,besides aside from some hassle due to bad builds it can be very interesting to see how a product actually develops,and besides there is proper beta testing where you are in contact with the vendor giving details of problems with builds and improvements and there is beta testing:-where you just install new builds to see what they are like and give very little or no feedback

[RejZoR]

Steve, it looks like you completely skipped the "small things" part...
What's the fun of doing it if you cannot harvest the fruits of your hard work? I never complained about it with avast! because they already offer us great free AV. They handed us 2 year license instead. We never asked for it, they did that themself. But i can always harvest the results of that hard work in free version (even if in limited way). With Kaspersky, you cannot a all. Trial for 30 days means nothing... It's not even fun to do the beta testing.

[3x0gR13N]

-{ Quote: "
What's the fun of doing it if you cannot harvest the fruits of your hard work? With Kaspersky, you cannot a all. Trial for 30 days means nothing... It's not even fun to do the beta testing." }-
For me it's worth doing if it means having a better product which works as it should on my machine, even if I have to buy a license for it.
It's upto you to decide whether you want to test it or not, nobody is forcing you. I personally know that there were a few users/testers who waited years to become GBT, and in the end they did because they didn't give up, giving a constant flow of bugreports over the years (even if it's a minor contribution).

[xxJackxx]

Don't be in a big hurry to see this. That forum section was changed from 2010 to 2011 a few days ago and last year when it went to 2010 it was probably weeks before anything was posted. Though I am also waiting impatiently as well...;)

[Baz_kasp]

-{ Quote: "I'm not joining any of their beta tests ever again. I used to work on KAV 2009 since they showcased its prototype and in the end they haven't even said thank you. I got no reward for it either while some who reported few things here and there got free license for it later on. It was totally dissapointing and lame." }-


I understand it is quite frustrating when you feel like you have been overlooked- and yes sometimes these things happen- however, you cannot dictate to them that you should be made a tester or you should get a license. At the end of the day it is completely at their discretion who gets a forum tag or a free license etc, much as it is completely your discretion whether or not you decide to participate in testing.

In actual fact, Kaspersky is a company that really does care about it's community of testers and forum users....a number of people find themselves employed by Kaspersky because of the good work they have done on the forum. I am not one of them but four years of hard slog on the forum and numerous beta cycles later I can safely say that they will look after you if you put the effort in (think trips abroad and really nice tech gear)


We have put the finishing touches to the 2011 testing FAQ and there are a few builds floating around internally. Expect to see a public build very soon.

[IceCube1010]

Ideally, a company should reward any beta tester that contribute some valid points, ideas or find bugs with their product. It is a very smart way of doing business for the company. Everyone is happy at the end, even the users that purchase the product with no input at all. Like RejZoR said, he's not looking for a months salary. I think a 1 year subscription should suffice.

Just my .02 cents,
Ice

[zfactor]

i agree 100% even a nice email from them saying thank you for all the help etc... just to know you were involved and they appreciated it. while i also agree most companies i beta test for usually offer me at least a lic at the end and sometimes i dont even use it. but the offer is there. really its not much for them to offer even a 1pc 1year lic to beta testers.

[RejZoR]

IceCube, i'd understand pretty much anything, but when they started making lame excuses even for beta tester tag on forums (that costs zero, null, nada), i had enough.

Anyway, back to the topic, is there any new stuff in this version that will seriously raise the security bar or just a small update of 2010 version?

[Zombini]

Any bets on whether KIS2011 will copy Norton Insight ?

[mvdu]

-{ Quote: "Any bets on whether KIS2011 will copy Norton Insight ?" }-

No, it probably won't. I personally don't find it that useful anyway.

[3x0gR13N]

-{ Quote: "
Anyway, back to the topic, is there any new stuff in this version that will seriously raise the security bar or just a small update of 2010 version?" }-
We haven't heard anything official except a few bits and pieces of (including unconfirmed) changes in v2011. There will probably be an official "What's new" tread in the beta section later.

[aigle]

I think Norton Insight seems very interesting and useful. though I haven,t used it.

[harlan4096]

-{ Quote: "I think Norton Insight seems very interesting and useful. though I haven,t used it." }-

I agree, but in VT in many samples it seems to say allways "Suspicious.Insight", when those samples are apparently clean ...

Regards.

[iwod]

So what is new in 2011?

[steve1955]

-{ Quote: "So what is new in 2011?" }-

Once installed it bloats up to completely fill your hard drive making it impossible for any malware to install!(lol)

[xxJackxx]

-{ Quote: "Once installed it bloats up to completely fill your hard drive making it impossible for any malware to install!(lol)" }-

This isn't a Norton thread. ;D

[Ibrad]

What is it with Norton being brought up in every thread :P

Anyway I am interested to see what Kaspersky is going to bring to it's software this year.

[3x0gR13N]

-{ Quote: "What is it with Norton being brought up in every thread :P
" }-
Mostly done by trolls. They might even be buzzing around in your city, driving this:
216177
...if you see one greet him with a nice banana. :)

(not flaming, just a bit of humor ;))

[wtsinnc]

-{ Quote: "Once installed it bloats up to completely fill your hard drive making it impossible for any malware to install!(lol)" }-

Hilarious !

[xxJackxx]

-{ Quote: "What is it with Norton being brought up in every thread :P

Anyway I am interested to see what Kaspersky is going to bring to it's software this year." }-

As for myself, I was just kidding. I am also quite interested in the next version of Kaspersky, especially since there is talk of a native 64 bit version.

[codylucas16]

-{ Quote: " there is talk of a native 64 bit version." }-

that's hot

[Zombini]

-{ Quote: "that's hot" }-

Dont see the value, unless they are planning on using more than 2GB, in which case...

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "This isn't a Norton thread. ;D" }-

AVG has also an interesting technique, it sucks up al processor resources and uses all your RAM so nothing, including malware, can be executed. Or McAfee, with its unorthodox "I'm already malware myself and won't allow competition on the computers I've infected" method :P

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "AVG has also an interesting technique, it sucks up al processor resources and uses all your RAM so nothing, including malware, can be executed. Or McAfee, with its unorthodox "I'm already malware myself and won't allow competition on the computers I've infected" method :P" }-

I guess it is Kaspersky's Thread...but we all dragging McAfee, AVG, and Norton here...We should stick to the concerned AV.

::)

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

Sorry, back on topic.
Sjoeii, you seem to know a lot about Kaspersky's products. There was a special edition of 2009 for ultraportables/netbooks, do you know if there are any plans to make one for the 2010 version or maybe 2011?
And the online scanner at Kaspersky's site, it has been down for a long time, stating that a new, improved version will come soon, but I doesn't seem it's coming, any info about it?

EDIT: Found an answer about KIS 2009 UP Edition:
-{ Quote: "On December 21, 2009 Kaspersky Lab announces the end of Kaspersky Internet Security for Ultra-Portables (KSUP) 2009 lifecycle. It means that the product will not be developed any more.
Kaspersky Internet Security for Ultra-Portables (KSUP) 2009 users have the right to migrate to Kaspersky Internet Security 2010 for free if they have a valid license for Kaspersky Internet Security for Ultra-Portables (KSUP) 2009" }-
-{ Quote: "
We’re sorry, but the product you are looking for is no longer available
Get Kaspersky Internet Security 2010 for your Netbook!
If you want full protection for your netbook computer then get Kaspersky Internet Security 2010 - specially designed and customized to work on small and ultra-portable PCs, more commonly known as Netbooks." }-
It seems that the normal 2010 version has already the netbook enhancements from KIS 2009 UP edition.
Still, any info on the online scanner would be nice :)

[3x0gR13N]

-{ Quote: "As for myself, I was just kidding. I am also quite interested in the next version of Kaspersky, especially since there is talk of a native 64 bit version." }-
Not sure, but I think MS (being M$ :shifty: ) is going to force gold partners to have a 64 bit native application as a certification requirement in the future. Which isn't really surprising knowing MS and the increased number of preinstalled 64bit W7s.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Not sure, but I think MS (being M$ :shifty: ) is going to force gold partners to have a 64 bit native application as a certification requirement in the future. Which isn't really surprising knowing MS and the increased number of preinstalled 64bit W7s." }-

Off Topic "Comment"

Your user ID is far more tough then my windows password....

[Sjoeii]

-{ Quote: "Sorry, back on topic.
Sjoeii, you seem to know a lot about Kaspersky's products. There was a special edition of 2009 for ultraportables/netbooks, do you know if there are any plans to make one for the 2010 version or maybe 2011?
And the online scanner at Kaspersky's site, it has been down for a long time, stating that a new, improved version will come soon, but I doesn't seem it's coming, any info about it?

EDIT: Found an answer about KIS 2009 UP Edition:


It seems that the normal 2010 version has already the netbook enhancements from KIS 2009 UP edition.
Still, any info on the online scanner would be nice :)" }-
Hi
I'm not sure about the Netbook version. I will ask at HQ.
It seems like this version does work on Netbook though. Have you tried it?
http://www.kaspersky.com/kaspersky_internet_security

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "Hi
I'm not sure about the Netbook version. I will ask at HQ.
It seems like this version does work on Netbook though. Have you tried it?
http://www.kaspersky.com/kaspersky_internet_security" }-

Maybe I didn't make it clear enough because English is not my native language, but in the EDIT part I posted that the netbook version was no longer supported and KIS 2010 seems to have the same netbook enhancements as KIS 2009 netbook version. I uninstalled KIS 2009 netbook version from the netbook and installed KIS 2010 and everything works fine :)
But I still like to know about Kaspersky Online Scanner:
http://www.kaspersky.com/virusscanner

[3x0gR13N]

-{ Quote: "
But I still like to know about Kaspersky Online Scanner:
http://www.kaspersky.com/virusscanner" }-
Use AVPTool in the meantime http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/AVPTool/
(or as a permanent replacement, I see no point in the Online scanner with AVPTool around)

[DonKid]

I´ve posted a screenshot of new beta version of KAV 2011 here (http://forum.kasperskyclub.com/index.php?showtopic=6342&view=findpost&p=51944).

[trjam]

thanks Don, the color isnt the most pleasing but I do like the GUI.:thumb:

[xxJackxx]

I'm not real concerned about the GUI yet. There isn't even a public beta yet, and it will change, probably a lot, before it is released.

[TheIgster]

-{ Quote: "I´ve posted a screenshot of new beta version of KAV 2011 here (http://forum.kasperskyclub.com/index.php?showtopic=6342&view=findpost&p=51944)." }-

Like the current GUI much, much better. Wow, that is ugly if that's the new GUI.

[Coolio10]

-{ Quote: "Like the current GUI much, much better. Wow, that is ugly if that's the new GUI." }-
I thought the same at first, but than i remembered how it looks like 2009 version which was way better. It had more information and options. All they need to do is add a background image, which i am sure they are still designing. They would not leave it plain booger green.:gack:

[TheIgster]

-{ Quote: "I thought the same at first, but than i remembered how it looks like 2009 version which was way better. It had more information and options. All they need to do is add a background image, which i am sure they are still designing. They would not leave it plain booger green.:gack:" }-

Sure, but not only that, but the three dimensional look of the current version and how the options kind of rise overtop of the background. I'm sorry, but that new one looks like something from 1985. Current version below is way better.

[zfactor]

i actually like that MUCH better than the current gui. i really dont like the current one myself. way to cluttered. i liked 2009 much better.

[Watasha]

-{ Quote: "AVG has also an interesting technique, it sucks up al processor resources and uses all your RAM so nothing, including malware, can be executed. Or McAfee, with its unorthodox "I'm already malware myself and won't allow competition on the computers I've infected" method :P" }-

Sorry to be OT, but THAT was FUNNY.;D

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "I´ve posted a screenshot of new beta version of KAV 2011 here (http://forum.kasperskyclub.com/index.php?showtopic=6342&view=findpost&p=51944)." }-
Damn...that's a scary freak UI,and its ugliness is far beyond my comprehension :o :o ;D
The 2009,2010 UI are FAR more prettiest,that's for sure.

[gery]

is the question : When this will be available for users -too early to ask?

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

I think the new GUI is ugly as hell too :P But I don't think it is real or at least it is going to change, because they would never put that bland green colour in it. Also, there was no advertisement for KIS in KAV 2009 and 2010(don't know about older versions though) so I don't think it will be in KAV 2011. Plus, it would stink to get advertisements in a paid product. I'm curious what GeoSecurity is.

A new major version of the Rescue Disk is up for testing :)
http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/RescueDisk10/

-{ Quote: "Use AVPTool in the meantime http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/AVPTool/
(or as a permanent replacement, I see no point in the Online scanner with AVPTool around)" }-

AVP tool is nice, but you need to reinstall a new version everytime you want to use it.

[Ibrad]

I personally lie the GUI, simple to use.

I am wondering what they are going to improve upon this year. I might have to beta test when it is released ;D

[xxJackxx]

I don't want them to rush by any means, but I can't wait to see what is new. 8)

[falkor]

-{ Quote: "AVG has also an interesting technique, it sucks up al processor resources and uses all your RAM so nothing, including malware, can be executed. Or McAfee, with its unorthodox "I'm already malware myself and won't allow competition on the computers I've infected" method :P" }-

OMG;D Now THAT is funny !!!!!!!!;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[gery]

-{ Quote: "OMG;D Now THAT is funny !!!!!!!!;D ;D ;D ;D ;D" }-
it sure is:thumb: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[RejZoR]

New interface is just terrifying. Version 2010 interface is like light years better.

[steve1955]

Does how the GUI looks actually matter?if it easy to use with things logically displayed,how it looks doesn't really matter to me,as long as its backed up by an excellent program!

[steve1955]

-{ Quote: "New interface is just terrifying. Version 2010 interface is like light years better." }-

If you were to decide to beta test it then you may be able to give Kaspersky some input(lol)

[xxJackxx]

-{ Quote: "New interface is just terrifying. Version 2010 interface is like light years better." }-

I wouldn't worry about it. The 2009 version started similarly and changed a lot before release. There is no way it won't change this time. And if it's still skinable then it won't matter too much. I been using this and am very pleased. http://forum.kasperskyclub.com/index.php?showtopic=5995

[Sjoeii]

-{ Quote: "New interface is just terrifying. Version 2010 interface is like light years better." }-
v2010 began this ugly as well.
Considering the fact v2011 isn't even alpha yet I do believe this GUI will change later.

Funnty to see by the way that so many people have opinions about a product that doesn't even exist :)

[steve1955]

-{ Quote: "v2010 began this ugly as well.
Considering the fact v2011 isn't even alpha yet I do believe this GUI will change later.

Funnty to see by the way that so many people have opinions about a product that doesn't even exist :)" }-

that's because all the top software developers in the world hang out here!

[DonKid]

-{ Quote: "Funnty to see by the way that so many people have opinions about a product that doesn't even exist :)" }-

I can imagine the success and envy that the new version will cause when it´s available.;D ;)

[Noob]

Lol, that Beta 2011 GUI looks awful! ::)

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "Lol, that Beta 2011 GUI looks awful! ::)" }-

its not even a beta screenshot...

[Rasheed187]

-{ Quote: "Lol, that Beta 2011 GUI looks awful! ::)" }-

Yeah, very ugly, can´t imagine that it will actually look this.

@ BoerenkoolMetWorst, nice username, I´m guessing you´re from Holland? For the people who don´t know what it means:
BoerenkoolMetWorst = Farmer´s cabbage with sausage. ;D

[syk69]

I think KIS 2010 is already an amazingly excellent product. Definitely the best 1 I have tested out of all the suites. The 1 gripe I have with the product is just a bit better performance for when you 1st run applications and they get added to trusted group. But its a very minor gripe. Overall though its already aweseome. In my opinion the only suite worth paying for. Very easy to configure and very organized.

[Matthijs5nl]

I think the fake GUI looks amazing, looks great tbh. Better than this version. The same way it is configured, but easier too use, less cluttered and cleaner buttons. All they have to edit is a the background image.

But it is fake: Windows Title Says: Internet Security
Title: says Anti-Virus
Tools menu says: Upgrade to get full version

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "Yeah, very ugly, can´t imagine that it will actually look this.

@ BoerenkoolMetWorst, nice username, I´m guessing you´re from Holland? For the people who don´t know what it means:
BoerenkoolMetWorst = Farmer´s cabbage with sausage. ;D" }-
Yeah, I'm from Holland :P

-{ Quote: "
But it is fake: Windows Title Says: Internet Security
Title: says Anti-Virus
Tools menu says: Upgrade to get full version" }-
A yes, I didn't notice that before.

[DonKid]

The GUI isn´t fake.
It was from an internal old build, maybe in Alpha stage.
The GUI is different now.

[GES/POR]

-{ Quote: "Yeah, I'm from Holland :P" }-

Me too but i dont like boerenkool met worst ;D

Doe mij maar patat :)

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

-{ Quote: "The GUI isn´t fake.
It was from an internal old build, maybe in Alpha stage.
The GUI is different now." }-

Then why would it both say antivirus and internet security and have an ad for the 'full' version?

-{ Quote: "Me too but i dont like boerenkool met worst ;D

Doe mij maar patat :)" }-

I don't really like it either, just thougt it is a fun username :P

[TJP]

Looking forward to seeing what changes Kaspersky makes to their excellent KIS!

As for it's looks, who cares when in its in alpha/beta - in fact who cares after it's released so long as it does what it claims to do on the tin.

Cheers.

[ALookingInView]

Some screens for those with an account on the KL forum http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=166191

..and here's one for those without http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2654/66183499.jpg

[Matthijs5nl]

-{ Quote: "Some screens for those with an account on the KL forum http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=166191

..and here's one for those without http://yfrog.com/ja66183499j" }-
I think that is quite good, I like it uses the like normal Windows Minimize and Close buttons. Because they just look far better than all competitors do. Look @ avast 5 and Panda Cloud, that close buttons are just uber ugly.

Better than this years version: less cluttered.

[gery]

green again and a lot better looking i really like it

[HomeSystem]

The new screen shot is really nice...But what matter is detection rate...

[TrojanHunter]

Seems logical to focus on the program features at this stage because the interface is hardly important at this time. I doubt Kaspersky would release it like that.

[icr]

Can anyone post what is actually new in this 2011 version I think gold beta testers(Sjoeii) can post here if allowed to post:-\

[DonKid]

Nobody knows what is new yet.
Only when the beta test start.

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

I like the new direction the GUI is going in :)

[dawgg]

-{ Quote: "The new screen shot is really nice...But what matter is detection rate..." }-
What about prevention, removal and system impact?

I'm pretty sure scanning engine will remain the same. But that does not make a difference, detection is mainly done in the back-end, not product.

[prathameshra]

Kaspersky Internet Security 2011 Beta screen shot217274

[King Grub]

Why the sad face? I think it looks neat; clean and uncluttered.

[drakester]

From the KIS/KAV 2011 Beta thread in Kaspersky forums:

General overview what is planned for 2011:

Granular control of application rules
The product will now use both KSN and WoC (Wisdom of Crowd) ratings, when application information is gathered (including HIPS policies)
The product informs the user of the following:
-Path
-General Information
-Protection Status
-Date the application appeared first (WoC)
-KSN participants who have this application installed (WoC)
-Trust group levels of that application among KSN participants (WoC)
-Geographic information of the application distribution of KSN participants (WoC)

Smart Installer Mode
If the product has detected an error during install:
-The user will be informed of the potential infection and AVPTool download utility will be offered.
If the product detected previous home version key (for intance KAV found KIS):
-The product will suggest an alternative code to be installed or convert functionality on the fly (KIS <> KAV)
Single distributive for both x32 and x64 bit versions, depending on the code entered during install

Kaspersky Gadget
-Allows product launch if not started already
-Quick access to the program's main window
-Launch On Demand Task for selected object (file, folder, registry), which dragable onto the gadget itself
-Read Kaspersky Labs news via news agent (linked syndications)
-Access to Safe Desktop

Parental Control -- enhance since PURE
-Game Control (age rating)
-P2P Control usage
-Email Control usage
-Social Networking Control
-Credit Card payment processor sites

Enhanced Rescue Disk
-The product will verify the image consistency
-Automatic signature update, if not actual
-Support for CD/DVD via built in interface
-Support for bootable USB flash card
-The product now desinfects startup entries, registry, ini files, not only files

Green Zone
-Safe Desktop (alternative mode for all secure user operations)
-Internet Zone (Red = KL reputation dangerous, Gray = No information or not enough data, Green = Safe resource)
-Geo Security (Block resources located in certain geographical areas if the user deems that visiting them is not needed)
-Sandbox v2.0 (will no separate browsers from other programs)

Malware Search
-Iddle Scan (is launched when certain criterion are met and the computer is iddle - launch of resource demanding tasks such as updater, rootkit scanner, system area scan, when the user is not present)

System Watcher
-Collects and saves events from different product subsystems and helps perform analysis for suspicious activities.
-Alerts the user by providing the information needed to make an informed decisiom (interactive mode of operations)

Misc Items
-The product will support and differentiate non-latin symbols in URLs

[Matthijs5nl]

First Category is interesting. Second category (Kaspersky Gadget) sounds like bloatware.

[btman]

Waiting to hear detection or heuristic improvements. Maybe its just my bad luck but I've been running into more and more fresh samples that I've been having to send to AV and anti malware companies. I'd appreciate less work on my end lol.

[prathameshra]

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[prathameshra]

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[Matthijs5nl]

I find it actually hard to interpret how the screens would look like with english language. Although it seems less cluttered as last years version, so probably a step forward.

[AvinashR]

I hope this time they will try to look after their sandbox. It would be nice if they do some kind on improvements in their Sandbox 2.:)

[3x0gR13N]

And so it begins... ;)

[3x0gR13N]

Here are some screens for those wanting to see English localized UI.
(UI is subject to change ;))
Also, KL beta on twitter: http://twitter.com/Kaspersky_beta (updates on beta related stuff)
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[Matthijs5nl]

It certainly looks nice: also it looks like Safe Run (Sandboxing) is more of becoming a key feature since it is much more visible in the GUI.

[3x0gR13N]

Here's a screenshot of the Safe Desktop environment (12x10):
http://i44.tinypic.com/2hp0kkx.png

[Zombini]

No surprise.. Kaspersky rips off Norton again!

[doktornotor]

-{ Quote: "No surprise.. Kaspersky rips off Norton again!" }-

Yeah, sure... and Norton ripped it off Windows Media Player. ;D ::)

[Matthijs5nl]

-{ Quote: "Yeah, sure... and Norton ripped it off Windows Media Player. ;D ::)" }-
Yes, :D

But Zombini, you said: Kaspersky rips off Norton again.

Could you give some other examples then :)?

[ESS474]

I dont like the GUI, but it now is light or remains heavy ?

[Baz_kasp]

-{ Quote: "No surprise.. Kaspersky rips off Norton again!" }-


Zombini, I think we are all aware of your affection for norton products, but was that reference really necessary here. We are discussing the Kaspersky betas, not Norton. Oh, and IMO it is called evolution, not ripping off ;)

[3x0gR13N]

-{ Quote: "I dont like the GUI, but it now is light or remains heavy ?" }-
It's a beta so you can't judge the performance (since additional debug stuff is enabled)

-{ Quote: "But Zombini, you said: Kaspersky rips off Norton again.

Could you give some other examples then ?" }-
Apparently when they released an Internet Security suite (http://nortonrocks.blogspot.com/2009/11/who-really-invented-internet-security.html) ::) But enough about Norton

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "No surprise.. Kaspersky rips off Norton again!" }-

~ Snipped as per TOS (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/faq.php?faq=wilders_tos#faq_wilders_tos_1) ~ u do know community rating systems have been around LONG before Norton insight right? and many programs have used them in some way shape or form. ~ Snipped as per TOS (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/faq.php?faq=wilders_tos#faq_wilders_tos_1) ~

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

New build is out: 11.0.0.195
http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/11.0.0.195

Changelog can be found here:
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=167947

[CogitoTesting]

-{ Quote: "New build is out: 11.0.0.195
http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/11.0.0.195

Changelog can be found here:
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=167947" }-

Is this new build in English or Russian?

Thanks.

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

both, the link leads to the english and russian install package :)

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

With 2011, it is now also possible to use an USB drive for the RescueDisc, nice for netbooks and it saves CD's :)

Is Pure 2011 going to be named Crystal, or is Crystal a new product?
Topic title from beta forum:
"Testing new QSCAN update for KIS/KAV 2009,2010 and PURE/CRYSTAL"

[Baz_kasp]

-{ Quote: "With 2011, it is now also possible to use an USB drive for the RescueDisc, nice for netbooks and it saves CD's :)

Is Pure 2011 going to be named Crystal, or is Crystal a new product?
Topic title from beta forum:
"Testing new QSCAN update for KIS/KAV 2009,2010 and PURE/CRYSTAL"" }-

CRYSTAL= the name for PURE in Russia. I think they came to the conclusion that PURE wasnt an appropriate name for that region.

[Sjoeii]

New build is out 11.0.0.198
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=168195&st=0&#entry1345849

[sourav_gho]

New Build 204 is out

http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=168443

Changelog:
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=161416

[volvic]

Kaspersky is just bloatware.

[Matthijs5nl]

-{ Quote: "Kaspersky is just bloatware." }-
That is a really constructive post :O

[Baz_kasp]

-{ Quote: "Kaspersky is just bloatware." }-

And your post Sir, is one that I would expect from somebody with nothing intelligent to add to a topic. In all honesty, why bother posting if you have nothing to say?

[funkydude]

Handing it to the Kaspersky guys, I like the new UI. I'm not a fan of cockpit-like GUI's where you'd need training to use. Keep It Simple Stupid!

-{ Quote: "Yeah, sure... and Norton ripped it off Windows Media Player. ;D ::)" }-

I may have chuckled a little bit!

[Baz_kasp]

-{ Quote: "Handing it to the Kaspersky guys, I like the new UI. I'm not a fan of cockpit-like GUI's where you'd need training to use. Keep It Simple Stupid!



I may have chuckled a little bit!" }-

I think this year they got some new UI designers on board for sure, because previous versions had far less polish on them than this time around, and always caused a lot of controversy amongst the beta testers. This year the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive (so far)

[Phenom]

-{ Quote: "Kaspersky is just bloatware." }-
Kaspersky is heavy on resources.

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "Kaspersky is heavy on resources." }-

I don't know about KIS/KAV 2011,but KIS 2010 on my 4Gb RAM laptop is running 2 processes and is very light.See screenshot.I'm sure that even a low RAM pc could handle that.

[xxJackxx]

-{ Quote: "I don't know about KIS/KAV 2011,but KIS 2010 on my 4Gb RAM laptop is running 2 processes and is very light.See screenshot.I'm sure that even a low RAM pc could handle that." }-

See, this is what you do. State your point and back it up with some evidence. The posts claiming heavy or bloatware are flame bait with no evidence to back them up.

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "See, this is what you do. State your point and back it up with some evidence. The posts claiming heavy or bloatware are flame bait with no evidence to back them up." }-

I agree.Bashing a software just for the sake of bashing....is not constructive at all.

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

I thought KIS 2010 was a lot heavier than 2009, but with the latest build 9.0.0.736ab it is almost the same as 2009, which is quite light, though there are lighter suites, but it isn't bloatware at all.

[Noob]

-{ Quote: "Kaspersky is just bloatware." }-
Evidence of it being bloatware?
KIS is one of the best All Around Suites ;D

[sourav_gho]

Build 214 is out

http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/11.0.0.214

Changelog

http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=162240

[xxJackxx]

I think this is going to be a short beta. Improvement between each build is quite obvious. :thumb:

[firzen771]

beta updates are quite frequent, im impressed.

[Sjoeii]

Good to hear. Are you guys missing anything? or what are your main bugs?

[ALookingInView]

-{ Quote: "Good to hear. Are you guys missing anything? or what are your main bugs?" }-
Firefox doesn't seem as snappy when under Safe Run and I can't seem to find the Safe Run Desktop, but that's about it. :doubt:

The betas that I've used (last 3 builds) have been pretty solid. :thumb:

[Sjoeii]

-{ Quote: "Firefox doesn't seem as snappy when under Safe Run and I can't seem to find the Safe Run Desktop, but that's about it. :doubt:

The betas that I've used (last 3 builds) have been pretty solid. :thumb:" }-
It's called safe run applications. This will open the sandboxed environment

[xxJackxx]

-{ Quote: "Good to hear. Are you guys missing anything? or what are your main bugs?" }-

The drag and drop scan doesn't work and hasn't, but that is a known issue due to the self defense. Beyond that nothing major but I haven't tested it on a live machine, just a virtual machine. I have yet to see how it works with a fully loaded configuration. I have very little else installed in the VM.

[ALookingInView]

-{ Quote: "It's called safe run applications. This will open the sandboxed environment" }-
I don't have that. I have Safe Run for Websites and Virtual Keyboard listed under my Safe Run tab. :doubt:
Seems like I had a Safe Run for Applications in one of the previous beta builds, but I could be wrong.
Running 11.0.0.220 here now though.
Forgot about the drag n' drop not working, but I'm sure that'll be addressed soon enough.

[sourav_gho]

Build 221 released
http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/devbuilds/11.0.0.221

Fixed many crashes.

Known problems:
Don't work Shell Extensions.

[Sjoeii]

Build 11.0.0.223 was just released
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=169126&st=0&gopid=1354270&#entry1354270

[ALookingInView]

They're pushing out new builds almost as fast as I can install them.
Build 11.0.0.227 was released earlier today.
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=169236

EDIT: Apparently build 11.0.0.229 is ready for testing now.
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=169286

EDIT: ...and now build 11.0.0.231 is out.
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=169315
This build allows you to use your own commercial key.

[ALookingInView]

11.0.0.232 RC released!
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=169380

Note: You must activate using Beta key.

[icr]

One question do you have to download the entire setup to install the new build? Or there is some sort of option like product update coz release of frequent builds and downloading the entire setup can be headache sometimes:(

[ALookingInView]

-{ Quote: "One question do you have to download the entire setup to install the new build? Or there is some sort of option like product update coz release of frequent builds and downloading the entire setup can be headache sometimes:(" }-
Unfortunately, yes.

[drakester]

-{ Quote: "11.0.0.232 RC released!
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=169380

Note: You must activate using Beta key." }-
Signed off as Technical Release. Think of it as RTM (Release to Manufacturing). ;)
Fast beta testing period, they fixed bugs rather quickly, only minor issues might be around :)

I think the biggest complaint they'll get is that you can't do a custom install. But this will be added in a future update: CF1 (Critical Fix 1).

[Sjoeii]

-{ Quote: "Signed off as Technical Release. Think of it as RTM (Release to Manufacturing). ;)
Fast beta testing period, they fixed bugs rather quickly, only minor issues might be around :)

I think the biggest complaint they'll get is that you can't do a custom install. But this will be added in a future update: CF1 (Critical Fix 1)." }-
And a nice build it is.
Congrats to KL Labs

[zfactor]

some new screens of the tech release? if possible

[ALookingInView]

The TR looks identical to the Betas.

[King Grub]

Looks like 2011 is ready!

http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/products/english/homeuser/kis2011/

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

It is also on the normal FTP server :)
ftp://ftp.kaspersky.com/products/english/homeuser/kis2011/
ftp://ftp.kaspersky.com/products/english/homeuser/kav2011/

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "It is also on the normal FTP server :)
ftp://ftp.kaspersky.com/products/english/homeuser/kis2011/
ftp://ftp.kaspersky.com/products/english/homeuser/kav2011/" }-

YES it looks like they released the 2011 series...

[gery]

i can not install it in my laptop as it shows that i have Clam Av. the previous 739 built did not give me this notification.
i am about to let it go if it still does . No other av or internet suite gives this accept KIS. ??? ??? :-[ :what: :what:

[3x0gR13N]

-{ Quote: "i can not install it in my laptop as it shows that i have Clam Av. the previous 739 built did not give me this notification.
i am about to let it go if it still does . No other av or internet suite gives this accept KIS. ??? ??? :-[ :what: :what:" }-
http://support.kaspersky.com/kis2010/install?qid=208280398
("[full path to setup.exe file]" /pSKIPPRODUCTCHECK=1)

[trjam]

Congrats to Kaspersky.:thumb:

[JerryM]

I'll be interested in the reports. I removed KIS a couple of months ago due to the "data base corrupted" problems 2 or 3 times.

Hope this version is stable and without such problems.

Regards,
Jerry

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "i can not install it in my laptop as it shows that i have Clam Av. the previous 739 built did not give me this notification.
i am about to let it go if it still does . No other av or internet suite gives this accept KIS. ??? ??? :-[ :what: :what:" }-
Same here.But i follow the instructions from HERE (http://support.kaspersky.com/faq/?qid=208280398).And all is went smooth.
Ouups..seems like 3x0gR13N gave the same advice.Sorry.

[Matthijs5nl]

WTF, running ESET NOD32 and KAV2011 together without any problem.

[gery]

-{ Quote: "Same here.But i follow the instructions from HERE (http://support.kaspersky.com/faq/?qid=208280398).And all is went smooth
iwhere is that in vista please? i have the italian version and really i can not find it
edit; found it

but it is not working

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "-{ Quote: "Same here.But i follow the instructions from HERE (http://support.kaspersky.com/faq/?qid=208280398).And all is went smooth
iwhere is that in vista please? i have the italian version and really i can not find it
edit; found it

but it is not working" }-
Worked for me.Just follow this

# for Windows Vista on the local disk C:\:

* if you are installing Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2010 the folder \ProgramData\Kaspersky Lab Setup Files\Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2010\9.0.0.xxx\English (the version number of Kaspersky Anti-Virus should be specified instead of xxx in the path, for example, the version 463) with the embedded files setup.exe and kav.en.msi
* if you are installing Kaspersky Internet Security 2010 the folder \ProgramData\Kaspersky Lab Setup Files\Kaspersky Internet Security 2010\9.0.0.xxx\English (the version number of Kaspersky Internet Security should be specified instead of xxx in the path, for example, the version 463) with the embedded files setup.exe and kis.en.msi

By default these folders are hidden and cannot be viewed. In order to view these folders, go to My Computer > in the Tools menu select Folder options. Go to the View and in the list enable the option Show hidden files and folders.

* open the folder with the files setup.exe and kav.en.msi/kis.en.msi (depending on the installed product)
* right-click the setup.exe file and then select the Create Shortcut item from the drop-down menu
* right-click on the created shortcut to setup.exe
* select the Properties item from the drop-down menu
* go to the Shortcut tab
* enter "[full path to setup.exe file]" /pSKIPPRODUCTCHECK=1 in the Target field ("[full path to setup.exe file]" is specified in the Target field by default)
For example, if you are installing Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2010 (build 9.0.0.736) under Windows XP, the text in the Target field will be the following:

"C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Kaspersky Lab Setup Files\Kaspersky Internet Security 2010 9.0.0.736\English\setup.exe" /pSKIPPRODUCTCHECK=1

*
click the OK button
*
run the application installation by double-clicking the shortcut to setup.exe

Read careful Gery,it must work.You have to go in Program data,there's the file who needs the tweak.Italian version?You must figure it out how is called Program data in your italian Vista.

[icr]

-{ Quote: "Looks like 2011 is ready!

http://devbuilds.kaspersky-labs.com/products/english/homeuser/kis2011/" }-

Is is the stable version coz they haven't updated their site for download

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "WHAT'S NEW IN KASPERSKY INTERNET SECURITY 2011:

New in protection:

* The Sandbox technology, which uses virtualization methods to create a safe environment for running applications (Safe Run for Applications), has been significantly improved. The application now features the option to run suspicious applications on a dedicated virtual desktop, which ensures reliable protection of the operating system. Safe Run for Websites (safe browser), which protects data being entered by the user, has been implemented to allow handling websites that require entering confidential information.

* The scope of the Web Anti-Virus component has been expanded thanks to the new modules that had been added:

o Online Banking identifies banking websites and allows the user to switch to Safe Run for Websites, which has been designed to handle this sort of web resources.

o Safe Surf consists of previously implemented Kaspersky URL Advisor enhanced with a new mode of blocking websites with high threat rating calculated by Kaspersky Lab. When this mode is enabled, access to dangerous websites will be blocked. When viewing unknown websites, the component will offer the user to switch to Safe Run for Websites.

o Geo Filter lets you block or allow access to regional domains depending on their infection level.

* A new technology named Wisdom of the Crowd has been implemented; it provides information about applications usage frequency and data on trust group distribution among the participants of the Kaspersky Security Network service. This information allows making a weighed decision when assigning a trust status to a new application.

* Users of Microsoft Windows Vista and Microsoft Windows 7 can enable Kaspersky Gadget, which displays the computer protection state and allows scanning objects for threats.

* System Watcher has been added, a new protection component, which analyzes file, registry, system and network activities on the computer, while collecting information about events detected by other protection components.

If any dangerous activity in the system is detected by Proactive Defense or File Anti-Virus (or in the course of virus scan), System Watcher rolls back the actions that have been performed by malicious programs.
System Watcher contains patterns of dangerous activity (BSS). Those patterns allows detecting both dangerous and suspicious activities on the computer. If any suspicious activity in the system is detected based on the patterns (or by Proactive Defense), a notification with information about the event is displayed on the screen.

* A new technology, which has been designed to run tasks on an idle computer, allows performing resource-intensive tasks, such as automatic update, scan of system memory, and scan of objects for rootkits, while the computer is turned on but remains idle.

* To improve reliability of the application, it provides protection against interception of DNS requests and substitution of network node addresses.

* In addition to HTTP traffic scan, Web Anti-Virus also scans FTP traffic now.

* Since new mail clients (such as Microsoft Live Mail) appear, Mail Dispatcher functionality is no longer supported.
What has been improved:

* The HIPS (Host-based Intrusion Prevention System) technology designed for controlling applications' activity has been significantly improved, which allows applying a unique set of restrictions and rules to an individual application, blocking run of untrusted applications until Kaspersky Internet Security is started, and excluding specified objects from the list of resources that should be controlled. The range of the application's privileges has been extended; a more accurate algorithm is now used to define application statuses.

* The Parental Control component has been enhanced and improved to better ensure control of messaging via social networks and IM clients, blockage of messaging with unwanted contacts and transfer of identity data, and restriction of computer and Internet usage time, file downloads, and run of various applications.

* The technologies of the Anti-Spam component have been enhanced. The image processing technology has been brought up to a new level of quality, the size of the databases has been reduced, and the text filtering technology for non-Latin languages has been improved.

* Advanced disinfection technology has also been improved. The AVPTool utility can be downloaded now. It scans the computer if any errors have been encountered when installing the application, thus giving rise to suspicions that the computer had been infected.
Thanks to a more efficient processing of installation errors detected when the computer is suspected of being infected, the rollback procedure has been improved for installation complicated by errors.

* The Rescue Disk creation service has been improved: an ISO image file can now be recorded on a CD or a USB data medium. The option to work in text mode has been added. When booting the system from the Rescue Disk, startup objects are scanned, in addition to boot sectors and file systems.

* The scope of the Kaspersky Security Network service has been extended. Protection and reliability of interaction with Kaspersky Security Network have been improved, including proxy server mode.

* The Urgent Detection System (UDS) technology has been enhanced by increasing the speed of adding new threats into the database and by improving the algorithm of UDS access.

* The application now scans the system for rootkits with higher efficiency. The new updatable component allows detecting a greater number of rootkits and adding entries of new rootkits into databases with a shorter response time. Fully updatable disinfection logic ensures quick counteraction to new types of rootkits.

* The Anti-Phishing technology has been enhanced thanks to use of analysis of images, HTML pages and URLs, as well as linguistic analysis of text content in messages.

* News Agent has been optimized still remaining the main tool of news delivery initiated by Kaspersky Lab.

* Automatic downloading and installation of a new version of the application have been implemented in addition to notification of release of a new version.
What's new in the application interface:

* The application interface has been optimized to simplify usage for beginners.

* Event notifications are completely redesigned to gain more intuitive and informative appearance.

* The context menu that provides access to the main features of the application has become more convenient and better structured.

* Starting from the 2011 version, custom component selection is not supported when installing the application. The application is installed in its entirety. If necessary, individual protection components can be excluded from the application interface." }-

Lets see how it will perform this time ...:D

[trjam]

ok some observations.

1. The GUI is actualy harder to understand and is more cumbersome. The scanned file counter in the GUI, looks like the odometer on a speedometer.:blink:

2. No ability on install to delete certain modules from installing.

3. There is no Safe Run for Applications even shown in 64 bit.

4. Safe Run itself can only be used by clicking on it. You can not set IE to automatically open in the safe run enviroment.

5. One year later and it is still not completely compatible with 64 bit.

Overall, it seems faster then 2010 but the GUI and Safe Run and Applications issue bother me.

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "ok some observations.

1. The GUI is actualy harder to understand and is more cumbersome. The scanned file counter in the GUI, looks like the odometer on a speedometer.:blink:

2. No ability on install to delete certain modules from installing.

3. There is no Safe Run for Applications even shown in 64 bit.

4. Safe Run itself can only be used by clicking on it. You can not set IE to automatically open in the safe run enviroment.

5. One year later and it is still not completely compatible with 64 bit.

Overall, it seems faster then 2010 but the GUI and Safe Run and Applications issue bother me." }-

Thanks for your observation Trjam...

BTW i have sent you some PM's, i guess you are busy that's why you haven't replied yet.

[gery]

can you check this image please?

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "can you check this image please?" }-

I guess this option is for 2009 & 2010 series. May be this is not valid for new version ... Not sure though !!

[gery]

-{ Quote: "I guess this option is for 2009 & 2010 series. May be this is not valid for new version ... Not sure though !!" }-
the other people are saying it is working ??? ??? ???

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "the other people are saying it is working ??? ??? ???" }-
Il collegamento,l'hai fatto nella stessa cartella,vero Gery?Devi farlo nella stessa cartella.Hope you understand italian.
You have to copy paste like this /pSKIPPRODUCTCHECK=1 and not like this /pSKIPPRODUCTCHECK=1" (without brackets)-{ Quote: "I guess this option is for 2009 & 2010 series. May be this is not valid for new version ... Not sure though !!" }-
No,it's valid for 2011 too.

[ogy]

-{ Quote: "can you check this image please?" }-

there should be a space after setup.exe"...

(setup.exe"(space)/pSKIPPRODUCTCHECK=1

[gery]

-{ Quote: "No,it's valid for 2011 too.Il collegamento,l'hai fatto nella stessa cartella,vero Gery?Devi farlo nella stessa cartella.Hope you understand italian.
You have to copy paste like this /pSKIPPRODUCTCHECK=1 and not like this /pSKIPPRODUCTCHECK=1" (without brackets)" }-
yes i did it in the same cartella or folder whatever :thumbd:

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "there should be a space after setup.exe"...

(setup.exe"(space)/pSKIPPRODUCTCHECK=1" }-
No,without any space.-{ Quote: "yes i did it in the same cartella or folder whatever " }-
I'm sorry Gery,i'm out of ideas....:'(

[gery]

-{ Quote: "there should be a space after setup.exe"...

(setup.exe"(space)/pSKIPPRODUCTCHECK=1" }-
thanx buddy it worked i am installing it now:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[mike21]

I tested it today.

The settings have been improved.

The application control (hips) is better than 2010 edition. At last they removed the inheritance and it is possible to set the rules easier and navigate to each application settings easier.

The interface is easier to navigate also but still not noob friendly.

Very acceptable performance-wise and no browsing delays.

[PnP]

its out on ftp :) official not beta.. the site not :(

[JoeBlack40]

-{ Quote: "thanx buddy it worked i am installing it now:thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:" }-
Odd......i followed exactly the instructions,no space....oh well,i'm glad that it worked for you too.
Indeed,lighter and faster than KIS 2010,but after first scan,founded some strange things in my temporary files,including something from google.But it wasn't capable to remove them,despite all i tried.I had to delete them with CCleaner.Sorry i don't have a snapshot.

[3x0gR13N]

-{ Quote: "

2. No ability on install to delete certain modules from installing.

3. There is no Safe Run for Applications even shown in 64 bit.

" }-
2. Should return in CF1.
3. You can still run browsers (Safe run for Websites) and applications (via right click) in the sandbox. So, about the same as 2010, with some improvements underneath :). (Safe run desktop (aka "...Applications") is a new feature).

[gery]

it strikes cpu at 100%>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( while scanning

[3x0gR13N]

-{ Quote: "it strikes cpu at 100%>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( while scanning" }-
1. Settings>Advanced settings>Compatibility>enable Concede resources to other applications
2. Don't scan while using your computer
3. Automatic "Regular scan for active threats" is all that is needed when it comes to scanning.

[King Grub]

High resource usage while doing a scan shouldn't really be an issue. Just schedule them when you're not in front of the computer doing something else.

Kaspersky scans might take a lot of resources, but they are thorough.

And there shouldn't be any reason to do full scans often enough for this to be any problem.

[BoerenkoolMetWorst]

As posted in the now closed topic, CF1 beta is out. Anyone know what's changed/improved/fixed?

[dawgg]

-{ Quote: "As posted in the now closed topic, CF1 beta is out. Anyone know what's changed/improved/fixed?" }-
Kaspersky's CFs have bug-fixes. Each and every bug fixed so far has not been listed publicly (and probably will not).

[JerryM]

I am very interested is seeing how KIS 2011 will perform, and particularly if it is stable. Although probably my favorite I am not using it due to several instances on BOTH computers of "Database (or Blacklist) corrupted" instances. To get things working again I had to uninstall and then install KIS 2010. I found that too cumbersome to continue KIS 2010.

The trial AV on my desktop ends soon, and I was hoping that 2011 would be running well. However, that does not seem to be the case.
I may just forget KIS as well as I like its protection, but it is the least stable of the AVs I normally use.

Regards,
Jerry

[AvinashR]

Lil off topic...KIS took 4 days to tell me that my quarantined file (Clean) is not infected...>:(:P

[dawgg]

-{ Quote: "Lil off topic...KIS took 4 days to tell me that my quarantined file (Clean) is not infected...>:(:P" }-
Better late than not ;)

[AvinashR]

-{ Quote: "Better late than not ;)" }-

Absolutely...

[ellison64]

What a fiasco trying to get a simple custom installation option :dry:
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=174081
(post 8 in particular)
It borders on the pathetic in my opinion.Are kaspersky after a tufty badge for including an option that practically every other av offers or are they just being
pig headed?.
ellison

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "What a fiasco trying to get a simple custom installation option :dry:
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=174081
(post 8 in particular)
It borders on the pathetic in my opinion.Are kaspersky after a tufty badge for including an option that practically every other av offers or are they just being
pig headed?.
ellison" }-

that is quite sad that marketing is controlling the direction of the product... custom installations was one of the selling points for kaspersky IMO compared to some other AV's today that have taken the ability away...

looks like i wont be trying kaspersky out anymore, was waiting for the custom installation option, but guess not...

[ALookingInView]

I read on the KL Forum a little while back that the Custom Installation option is supposed to make a return in the CF1 release, so I guess we'll see.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "I read on the KL Forum a little while back that the Custom Installation option is supposed to make a return in the CF1 release, so I guess we'll see." }-

well that thread shows that its not going to return unless the support team receives enuff complaints and even then it probly wont return...

[3x0gR13N]

http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=172798&view=findpost&p=1395501

-{ Quote: "What a fiasco trying to get a simple custom installation option :dry:
http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=174081
(post 8 in particular)
It borders on the pathetic in my opinion.Are kaspersky after a tufty badge for including an option that practically every other av offers or are they just being
pig headed?.
ellison" }-
No where in post 8 does it say that it wont be returning or if the higher ups are planning to keep the Custom install in final version. Some testers were under the wrong impression that QA has anything to do with what a final version will contain feature-wise, so he (Andrey) directed them to those in charge of such things.

[drakester]

My reply there (KIS 377 beta thread) got deleted. Thanks a lot.
Such a good way to reward feedback.

[3x0gR13N]

-{ Quote: "My reply there (KIS 377 beta thread) got deleted. Thanks a lot.
Such a good way to reward feedback." }-
And you posted about...? Custom install? If yes, then I don't see how is this:
-{ Quote: "please do as requested and write support with this and kindly stop posting about this issue in this thread when specificly asked not to." }-
unclear. :) There's no real need for me to explain actions taken on another forum, if you have a question pertaining moderation actions taken on a specific post, ask some of the mods there... ;)

[drakester]

-{ Quote: "And you posted about...? Custom install? If yes, then I don't see how is this:

unclear. :) There's no real need for me to explain actions taken on another forum, if you have a question pertaining moderation actions taken on a specific post, ask some of the mods there... ;)" }-No need of an explanation from anyone and I also have no need to explain myself, but here it goes:
Actually I was pointing someone else to Andrey's reply and that he/she should contact support about it instead of asking again.
Also I replied to Sass Drake who wanted to know if the detailed reports are coming back, pointing him that Pipkin's skin already have that feature enabled.

Hardly a delete worthy post, I never did complain nor I started arguing about custom install.
I don't use it but I see the obvious benefit of it. As it was said before, it's quite unfortunate that a good product gets taken over by some questionable marketing decisions.

KL staff are quite nice, I even got a license as thanks for beta testing... but I gotta say that some of the forum mods tend to be overzealous sometimes.

I'll leave this matter as it is, no need to bring this thread offtopic.

On topic: I think they should optimize the product a bit more, the performance hit is quite noticeable even on a fast computer. I hope this gets improved in CF1.

[ellison64]

-{ Quote: "http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=172798&view=findpost&p=1395501


No where in post 8 does it say that it wont be returning or if the higher ups are planning to keep the Custom install in final version. Some testers were under the wrong impression that QA has anything to do with what a final version will contain feature-wise, so he (Andrey) directed them to those in charge of such things." }-

No it doesn't say that it wont be returning but the poster advises that those wanting that feature in cf 1 or maybe 2 should contact technical support.The later post on the 19th seems to show that many people have indeed contacted technical support (im one of them but yet to have a reply) and the option "might"return.Still a fiasco in my opinion ,whichever way you look at it.
ellison

[btman]

I posted it over the .377 thread on Kasperskys beta forums... But anyway an official Kaspersky release is coming in August that will have custom install. I have no idea if its going to be CF1 or a newer one by then but at least its coming.

[trjam]

2 heavy on 2 laptops. Oh well