antimalware free software that really works good (not hips)

[simisg]

in my opinion after personal tests antimalware software that protect detect and clean good are: panda cloud , mse and threatfire the last one in level 4 of behavior protection is perfect 10!

[LAHarry]

Ashampoo Anti-Malware v1 newly released which they combine their Antivirus & Antispyware recently & trust with good protections.

IoBit 360 may also consider good & compatiable with most of AV to run together.

Both got free in the promo period.

[PC__Gamer]

Lol, those 2 I wouldn't recommend to my worst enemy.

The free tools worth knowing about are avast 5, hitman pro, mbam and cureit and of course prevx free for its detection too, oh and online armor if your in need of a firewall

[raven211]

-{ Quote: "in my opinion after personal tests antimalware software that protect detect and clean good are: panda cloud , mse and threatfire the last one in level 4 of behavior protection is perfect 10!" }-

Just curious since I really like TF too... what does it miss when set to its default sensitivity of 3? :)

[jmonge]

threatfire was tested when?

[nikanthpromod]

-{ Quote: "in my opinion after personal tests antimalware software that protect detect and clean good are: panda cloud , mse and threatfire the last one in level 4 of behavior protection is perfect 10!" }-
personal tests???
In my opinion TF alone will protect u perfectly.

[simisg]

yes threatfire alone is perfect for a clean pc
im talkin for complete antimalware-antivirus
software with realtime protection for free only.
threatfire is a behavior protector is one category alone maybe with mamutu and norton sonar but threatfire is free and stops all malware....maybe threatfire on level 4 is hips to....

[kjdemuth]

Avast 5, avira personal, Comodo AV.

[simisg]

comodo antivirus without hips miss many threats but is good with agressive heuristics
avast and antivir miss to many malwares and rogues also avast and antivir can not heal-repair infections and not really prevent infections of what detect....
pandacloud and mse do better job on prevention and healing threatfire do perfect job on prevention!

[codylucas16]

-{ Quote: "
pandacloud and mse do better job on prevention " }-

Lol...

[kjdemuth]

Avira miss too many malware? I'd love to see your proof of this. Seeing that it gets a 99% on just about every av-compart. Also avast as well has a high detection rate. Both remove malware very well, in my own experiance. If you could provide some proof of these statements, that would be great. -{ Quote: "comodo antivirus without hips miss many threats but is good with agressive heuristics
avast and antivir miss to many malwares and rogues also avast and antivir can ot heal-repair infections and not really prevent infections of what detect....
pandacloud and mse do better job on prevention and healing threatfire do perfect job on prevention!" }-

[simisg]

why lol !!? my opinion based on some tests i have see with my eyes what i say.....:)

[simisg]

antivir detect many malwares expept some spyware and rogues and zero day malwares but not really prevent infection of what detect and it can not healing many
when i say really good antimalwares i mean detection-prevention-healing all 3 are my rules to say a antimalware-antivirus is good
dont ask to see any test im not a company i do it only for fun and for informations

[kjdemuth]

You might be thinking of the on-demand but it does have a file scanner that is constantly looking for files that are run. Avira also detects and PREVENTS spyware and zero day malware. According to your "rules" Avira and avast both should be good. Avast and avira both have a web shield that stops alot of mal ware even before it loads up on the screen. Whether it be drive by's or scripts. I could aruge these points all day but I have to eat lunch so let me know.

[kjdemuth]

Also if you could post these "tests" that you have seen with your eyes. That would be great.

[PC__Gamer]

Avira only got about 87% on Av-tests dynamic test I think

I'm on my blackberry at the moment so can't really post the link yet, maybe someone else will

[kjdemuth]

Dynamic test for Dec 2009. Avira was 97 out of 100 and Avast and MSE were both 96 out of 100.

[PC__Gamer]

-{ Quote: "Dynamic test for Dec 2009. Avira was 97 out of 100 and Avast and MSE were both 96 out of 100." }-
You are talking about Av-comparatives, I'm talking about Av-test, avira only got around 87% ...very poor!

Their test is 5 times bigger than Av-comparatives

[simisg]

my tests are small but a serious antimalware product must stops serious threats.......and when says that detect something must prevent any infection in registry an in system32 folder at least.........

[jmonge]

did you ever tested AppRanger?

[simisg]

this is hips im not talkin about hips...........

[jmonge]

it is not hips it is a sandbox with a scaner;) and also a behabiour analysis

[codylucas16]

-{ Quote: "why lol !!? my opinion based on some tests i have see with my eyes what i say.....:)" }-


Panda cloud is nowhere near complete enough to compare with avast or antivir. it has pretty poor prevention as any virus can just shut it down. if they implement a self protection, webshield and behaviour shield then it will be decent, until then you can't even compare avast with it.

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "You are talking about Av-comparatives, I'm talking about Av-test, avira only got around 87% ...very poor!

Their test is 5 times bigger than Av-comparatives" }-

87% is very poor? Damn, you must be a difficult person to please, lol. As far as the OPs' question, just about every AV, free or not has anti-malware capabilities. If you're looking for a second opinion, then MalwareBytes/Superantispyware. For a main program though, really, just stick with whatever AV you are using at the moment.

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "Panda cloud is nowhere near complete enough to compare with avast or antivir. it has pretty poor prevention as any virus can just shut it down. if they implement a self protection, webshield and behaviour shield then it will be decent, until then you can't even compare avast with it." }-

Webshield is not needed its just another shield to have running, the on access shield should take care of it

Its prevention is very good, I don't know where you saw its bad.

Behavior Shield would be nice, I hope they add that soon

Selfprotection, yes I agree they need to add that

I don't get why you say it can't compare with Avast :P

(I am not saying one is better than another, we are all free to share our opinions)

[PC__Gamer]

-{ Quote: "87% is very poor? Damn, you must be a difficult person to please, lol. As far as the OPs' question, just about every AV, free or not has anti-malware capabilities. If you're looking for a second opinion, then MalwareBytes/Superantispyware. For a main program though, really, just stick with whatever AV you are using at the moment." }-
taken a little out of context, i was referring to his belief of it being a 99% detector.

but in a way, yeah... maybe not very poor, but still poor.

here is the report:

DEC 2009

http://blogs.pcmag.com/securitywatch/2009/12/av-testorg_releases_real-world.php

Avira was the only suite tested to have many FP's during detection, maybe this is the reason why they get 99% on the on-demand tests?

[lordraiden]

I have been testing Threatfire agains the newest files from malwaredomainlist arround 12 files, Threatfire only block 2 of them and after this I made a scan with avira and detected 15 trojans.

Edit: on win7 x64 will all the updates, Threatfire latest version

[jmonge]

thanks for this test lordraiden:thumb: and for those that still believe in threatfire so they think twice when they say that threatfire is all they need to stay protected;D i also tested it and fail i dont know why some youtube people say the oposite;D

[PC__Gamer]

bring CyberHawk back.....

i dont care if they say, it IS Cyberhawk or its the same people developing threatfire as they did CyberHawk,

i wont use PcTools, no thank you...

also, CyberHawk was just soooo much cooler. ;D

anybody else miss it?

214963

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "bring CyberHawk back.....

i dont care if they say, it IS Cyberhawk or its the same people developing threatfire as they did CyberHawk,

i wont use PcTools, no thank you...

also, CyberHawk was just soooo much cooler. ;D

anybody else miss it?

214963" }-

PCTools destroyed Cyberhawks good name, imho. Threatfire, has never been as good, my opinion, yes, but my opinion nonetheless. It's turned into a slow as molasses mess.

[dcrowe0050]

I would rather pay for Mamutu than use Threatfire, I have never liked it. I'm with PC Gamer- bring back CyberHawk, forget Symantec PC Tools.

[simisg]

everyone say anything wants.... threatfire 4.7 stops all the threats in level 4 of behavior protection trust me

[lordraiden]

-{ Quote: "everyone say anything wants.... threatfire 4.7 stops all the threats in level 4 of behavior protection trust me" }-

I have tested it at lvl4 and only stoped 2 of 12. Try again a get some samples from malwaredomainlist.

[simisg]

my samples are from malwaredomain and malwareurl and viruses collection......
stops everything set it in level 4

[lordraiden]

-{ Quote: "my samples are from malwaredomain and malwareurl and viruses collection......
stops everything set it in level 4" }-

Ok, but IMO the protection offered is very low maybe is bcs I tested it on x64

[Kees1958]

-{ Quote: "my samples are from malwaredomain and malwareurl and viruses collection......
stops everything set it in level 4" }-

Yep, ThreatFire at level 4 will warn on every attempt to change something in C:\Windows, C:\Program Files , so you problably tested a lot of PUA's, fake AV's (choose install from your browsr, I guess).

[jmonge]

threatfire maybe very smart at level 4 or 5 but not powerfull enough to stop nasty stuff such the braviax which bypassed threatfire at level 4 in my test;D

[Kees1958]

-{ Quote: "threatfire maybe very smart at level 4 or 5 but not powerfull enough to stop nasty stuff such the braviax which bypassed threatfire at level 4 in my test;D" }-

Nice Avatar :thumb:

[Saraceno]

You're right that it should add/detect braviax. But given that it is a rogue application, threatfire might miss this.

But if braviax really does disable other AV programs from functioning, and is difficult to delete, should be added. This is an interesting read (http://www.2-viruses.com/remove-braviax).

[jmonge]

thanks kees:)

[jmonge]

mbam and prevx do the job well againts braviax;)

[jmonge]

that is exactly the job of any behabiour blocker to watch any malicious actions and prevent damage

[Noob]

A-Squared free is kinda good imo ;D

[aigle]

-{ Quote: "I have been testing Threatfire agains the newest files from malwaredomainlist arround 12 files, Threatfire only block 2 of them and after this I made a scan with avira and detected 15 trojans.

Edit: on win7 x64 will all the updates, Threatfire latest version" }-
Seems you tested a lot of rogue. TF can,t be so bad in testing. However rouge applications are not supposed to be detected by a behavior blocker.

[Saraceno]

aigle is right, and rogue applications seems to be all the 'go' these days.

Most people who see that 'flam'e near their clock would know they already have threatfire installed protecting their pc.

Common sense tells me they wouldn't go looking for 'win defender champion destroyer 2010', as they already would have read up about threatfire and knows what role it does.

Now lets just say this 'hypothetical user', doesn't know threatfire is installed or what it does. This scenario is usually because their son, for example, installed all the necessary security applications. They wouldn't install anything as they'd say to themselves, 'my son looks after my pc - my pc is fine'.

So the only people these applications are really targeting, are people who don't have any AV running. They're searching for a new application and they're convinced by what they read. The flashy graphics, the convincing spiel.

These are the people that get stung by rogues, and then have a computer repairman, or a family member install avast, norton, and say, 'don't go trying to install anything again, ok chief?'

So testing threatfire against rogue applications, that are geared to lighten your wallet and fool your common sense, isn't what threatfire is intended for.

Edit - My half-baked analogy thrown in:

Someone with new car drives past used-car salesman on the side of the road with a card held-up 'buy this used station-wagon'...
'No thanks' the driver thinks to herself, 'I got my new car, I'm fine - it has an engine immobilizer, side and front air bags, traction control, magnetic ride control etc'.

Next person drives past, unsure of what model car they're driving. 'Does it have an engine, or is this thing air-powered', they think to themselves.
Used-car salesman waves this person down, 'have I got the deal for you, this station-wagon is the best thing since man invented the wheel'
'So it's better than what I have, I really need this?' the driver asks.
'You sure do champ, it will protect you like no other vehicle on the road!'
Driver hands over the cash, receives the keys, heads off down the road until he reaches a bend. Station-wagon goes straight through the bend and into a lake. :D

[jmonge]

the best bet is if you have threatfire or any behabiour blocker couple with a solid antivirus like nod or prevx and he or she is set to go;)

[Saraceno]

What I'm getting at, we're criticizing products that aren't picking up all these rogue applications, but if you have some common sense, than these applications 'for example, threatfire, mamutu, or even your standard AV such as Dr Web etc' will do fine.

But the applications that do detect every rogue application in town, it's impressive for novice users who have no computer/internet experience, I say, it's the first thing I'll install on grandma's machine or my friend who is slow, but ask yourself, does it have any benefit to you (you, the person blinking at the screen with some common sense)?

I mean, you honestly install new applications that are unheard of and claim to be the greatest malware destroyers of all time?

[Saraceno]

jmonge, in case you're wondering, the questions aren't directed at you. Just general questions. :)

[jmonge]

i know:)

[jmonge]

it is very hard this days for novises not to get infected:) i clean a computer the other day with a s-quare onboard??? ;D i recomended it to a friendand after a week she call me and brogh the pc when plug it tons of malware including 2 rootkits;D i scan and clean up the infections with appranger;) i put appranger on and already a week and they are happy with it:)

[Ibrad]

Everyone keeps saying Threatfire keeps missing rouges when that is not even their job to detect. Threatfire it suppose to work with your av not replace it.

[Saraceno]

I know in the workplace, some workplaces, there is a short 2 hour online course for people to complete before they access the internet. On what to download, what to install.

If you can't give them some education, say 10 minutes, maybe there should be an online course for novice users. About the 'internet'. They seem to want to install everything.

[jmonge]

IBrad you are correct man:thumb:

[whitedragon551]

-{ Quote: "in my opinion after personal tests antimalware software that protect detect and clean good are: panda cloud , mse and threatfire the last one in level 4 of behavior protection is perfect 10!" }-

Im not even going to read the rest of this topic. The first page was enough for me. If your awesome testing proved that Threatfire was the worlds best detection/prevention/water splitting software then why are you looking for anything better?

[jmonge]

look at this, even though i dont agree with the one of the testers in some thoughts but threatfire did well here;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L9ykWGPfcs&NR=1

diferent opinions:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN2WJiTnddQ&NR=1

note:me agree with the second tester:):)

and this one:a mix of advise :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gdePfAftDU&NR=1

[simisg]

-{ Quote: "Im not even going to read the rest of this topic. The first page was enough for me. If your awesome testing proved that Threatfire was the worlds best detection/prevention/water splitting software then why are you looking for anything better?" }-


im looking for free products in the same level of protection and for other opinions ...... my smart friend

[whitedragon551]

-{ Quote: "im looking for free products in the same level of protection and for other opinions ...... my smart friend" }-

Youve said it multiple times that its best in your opinion and nobody can refute it so why do you care what we have to say? I thought your all mighty research was awesome.

[kjdemuth]

-{ Quote: "Youve said it multiple times that its best in your opinion and nobody can refute it so why do you care what we have to say? I thought your all mighty research was awesome." }-
Maybe because he doens't know what he is talking about. Thats just a hunch. ;)

[whitedragon551]

-{ Quote: "Maybe because he doens't know what he is talking about. Thats just a hunch. ;)" }-

Its more than a hunch, but the OP dismisses any proof against it. I guess a troll is a troll.