firefox 3.6 final is out

[ViVek]

firefox 3.6 final
f t p://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.6/win32/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%203.6.exe Download ~ Removed Direct Link ~

[nikanthpromod]

Not yet .
Still 3.5 in official page.

[Raza0007]

Thanks. The final version of 3.6 appears to be just a relabeled 3.6 RC 2.

[Thankful]

Also here:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/Mozilla_Firefox_3_d2248.html

[dcrowe0050]

yeah and a lot of my addons are incompatible

[nineine]

Official Firefox page is now updated with 3.6 Final: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox

[dw426]

I just downloaded RC2 yesterday, lol. I'm really happy that they are changing their update process. I like RC2 so far, now I'll just wait for final to come along through the updater.

[Raza0007]

In addendum to my post#3:

If you are currently running 3.6 RC2 then you do not need to download the final version as it is exactly the same. If you download both final installer and the RC2 installer, rename one to match the other and then calculate hash, you will find they are exactly the same.


"Firefox Setup 3.6.exe" (ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.6/win32/en-US/)
CRC-32: 5f37b526


"Firefox Setup 3.6 RC 2.exe" (ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.6rc2/win32/en-US/), rename it "Firefox Setup 3.6.exe"
CRC-32: 5f37b526

[Victek123]

-{ Quote: "yeah and a lot of my addons are incompatible" }-
.
Yes, 3.6 shows a number of my add-ons as incompatible. I'm going to wait a little and let the add-ons catch up.

[mantra]

-{ Quote: ".
Yes, 3.6 shows a number of my add-ons as incompatible. I'm going to wait a little and let the add-ons catch up." }-
yes me too
add-ons , themes are not compatible

but i did not find nice new feature
what does ff3.6 have worth to upgrade ?


and it 's not more fast then 3.5.7

i tried firefox 3.6 and i did notice a overload consume of the cpu --> http://vimeo.com/8829670?hd=1
watch the movie and look the cpu


but why after an firefox update, i'm log off from many sites?
i can't understand

[nineine]

-{ Quote: ".
Yes, 3.6 shows a number of my add-ons as incompatible. I'm going to wait a little and let the add-ons catch up." }-

You could just go into "about:config" in Firefox, create a new boolean, name it "extensions.checkCompatibility.3.6", and set it to false. This will tell Firefox to ignore compatibility and allow all of your incompatible extensions to be installed in FF 3.6. Though some of them could potentially cause problems/conflicts, function kind of funny, cause data loss, or just not work. I have a lot of add-ons in FF, and I have done this tweak before for new FF updates with no issues whatsoever. Try at your own risk.

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "yes me too
add-ons , themes are not compatible

but i did not find nice new feature
what does ff3.6 have worth to upgrade ?


and it 's not more fast then 3.5.7

i tried firefox 3.6 and i did notice a overload consume of the cpu --> http://vimeo.com/8829670?hd=1
watch the movie and look the cpu


but why after an firefox update, i'm log off from many sites?
i can't understand" }-

What do you mean you're logged off of sites? Is Firefox set to delete history/cookies and such after the browser closes? If so, there's your reason. FF 3.6 is worth the upgrade for the new updating process, auto-checking for add-on updates/issues, and keeping things from getting access to the components folder of Firefox to prevent crashes.

Other than those few things, yeah, it's the same old Firefox. I don't count HTML 5 as a plus because, frankly, I see another senseless war of the codec/standard coming. Google already has restricted their HTML 5 support to Chrome and Safari, Mozilla and Opera want the open standard. It's just going to be another one of these stupid "We support this but not that" things that end up stalling yet another needed and welcome technology.

I don't see a speed increase either. Like I would ever care if it's an extra 1-2 nanoseconds faster than 3.5 anyway, it makes absolutely no difference.

[acuariano]

hey dw426,thanks for the feedback...i bet if the memory leak was fixed/..

[lodore]

no problems with firefox 3.6 so far
for those about to rock... we salute you! (http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/44738)

[Threedog]

Working good for me so far. Adblock plus and my Canadian dictionary work with it so that was my main concern.

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "hey dw426,thanks for the feedback...i bet if the memory leak was fixed/.." }-

It doesn't seem to be, it still uses over 100Mb for simple pages. I even cut down on add-ons and it still just eats it up. I honestly give up on FF ever handling its memory usage. Anyways, back to the topic.

[JRViejo]

FYI. Mozilla Firefox, Portable Edition 3.6 (http://portableapps.com/news/2010-01-21_-_firefox_portable_3.6), courtesy of PortableApps.com.

[Seer]

-{ Quote: "i bet if the memory leak was fixed/.." }-

While I don't feel the memory usage of Firefox is exactly a "leak", I don't think it will ever be fixed. Firefox was always a memory hog, you just learn to live with it.

[acuariano]

think it wasn't.i use firefox long time ago,and it was ok,but now.

[Kerodo]

With all the ram people have on their systems nowadays, I don't really think it's too important anymore either...

[siljaline]

Someone forgot the release notes. (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6/releasenotes/) :)

[Daveski17]

I find Firefox bloaty & sluggish these days compared to SeaMonkey. I'm still having problems with the Ajax scripting in Fx 3.6.

K-Meleon is faster than both of them. 8)

[prius04]

Re the memory usage issue --> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Reducing_memory_usage_-_Firefox

Note where it states: Normal Firefox memory usage reported by Windows might be as high as 100-150 MB. These numbers will vary because Firefox is configured by default to use more memory on systems that have more memory available and less on systems with less. If you experience substantially more usage than this, there may be a problem, or you may just be viewing pages with large amounts of data.

[Kerodo]

Mine hangs at around 43MB or so most of the time. I have 4 gigs ram. I don't think I'll miss the 43MB.

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "Re the memory usage issue --> http://kb.mozillazine.org/Reducing_memory_usage_-_Firefox

Note where it states: Normal Firefox memory usage reported by Windows might be as high as 100-150 MB. These numbers will vary because Firefox is configured by default to use more memory on systems that have more memory available and less on systems with less. If you experience substantially more usage than this, there may be a problem, or you may just be viewing pages with large amounts of data." }-

Well my Firefox configurations must have always been backwards because I'm sitting on a gig of RAM and Firefox eats it like candy. Always has. *shrug* Oh well, I'll be updating this system soon and I'll quit worrying about it.

[bonedriven]

I dont wanna start a new thread to discuss this issue. But the extension personas doesn't work any more on FF 3.6. Right? I mean I have read complains that the default theme(groovy blue) is the only available theme for 3.6 even if you have personas installed?! ???

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "What do you mean you're logged off of sites? If so, there's your reason. FF 3.6 is worth the upgrade for the new updating process, auto-checking for add-on updates/issues, and keeping things from getting access to the components folder of Firefox to prevent crashes.

." }-
i mean after an update i have to type user and password again

-{ Quote: "Is Firefox set to delete history/cookies and such after the browser closes?" }-
no ,it is not set to delete history/coockes

-{ Quote: " FF 3.6 is worth the upgrade for the new updating process," }-
i did not know about the new updateing process,where can i find info about it


is there a option in 3.6 to enlarge the number of 10 History Results in drop-down?
i found https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Places_query_URIs
thanks

[DOSawaits]

I don't think the RAM usage is the the real pain with FF, it's the CPU usage that is more of a problem.

[newbino]

-{ Quote: "While I don't feel the memory usage of Firefox is exactly a "leak", I don't think it will ever be fixed. Firefox was always a memory hog, you just learn to live with it." }-

this extension (https://addons.mozilla.org/it/firefox/addon/53880) has done wonders for me (note, after install is inactive and you have to set when to use it, or whether to do so by default)

[Seer]

[/URL]-{ Quote: "[URL="https://addons.mozilla.org/it/firefox/addon/53880"]this extension (https://addons.mozilla.org/it/firefox/addon/53880) has done wonders for me" }-

Thanks, I'll play with it. Though I'm not much of an extensions collector, I have only 2 or 3 installed :)
Just for clarification, I don't think that the term "memory hog" necessarily refers to something bad.
I have a PC that I use for browsing only, it has 1 GB of RAM. I let FF occupy 200megs (and easily more on some occasions), since I don't use this PC practicaly for anything else. FF is a great browser, in many ways superior to the alternatives. However, it does use a large amount of RAM (when compared to others) and tends to be a bit sluggish and heavy on CPU, especially if you have a galaxy of addons installed. But as much as I'm aware of these shortcomings (as a loose term), I use it as my primary browser and like it very much. Opera still remains a personal favorite though.

[mantra]

does somebody know the future firefox update engine?

i read incremental , can someone tell what is it?

thanks

[Get]

Could be my pc, but it doesn't run >:( . 3.5.7 does.

[GlobalForce]

Under installing and extensions Mantra - http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6/releasenotes/
For your history results check browser.urlbar.maxRichResults after opening about:config.

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "Under installing and extensions Mantra - http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.6/releasenotes/
For your history results check browser.urlbar.maxRichResults after opening about:config." }-
the history drop down ,from the history menu shows 10 items

the defaul browser.urlbar.maxRichResults is 12
i tried to set to 20
but i doesn't change the history drop down list , it's still 10 items

[GlobalForce]

Maybe not 3.6 but I typed in a hundred > RESTARTED FF > and sure enough, a hundred with it's OWN scrollbar. Be back later ....

[WSFuser]

@mantra - try this extension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7674

[GlobalForce]

Needs an extension? Utter nonsense!

[WSFuser]

@GlobalForce - the extension allows you to view more entries in the location bar WITHOUT the scrollbar.

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "@mantra - try this extension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/7674" }-
i'm taking about the History menu
in the 3.5.7 , i have the last 10 sites visited

[Firebytes]

-{ Quote: "I dont wanna start a new thread to discuss this issue. But the extension personas doesn't work any more on FF 3.6. Right? I mean I have read complains that the default theme(groovy blue) is the only available theme for 3.6 even if you have personas installed?! ???" }-

You don't need the Personas extension anymore in 3.6, its functionality is baked right into this new version. If you have Firefox 3.6 then you can just go to http://www.getpersonas.com and begin using the themes there.

[nikanthpromod]

Crashing Behavior of FF is still working perfectly.:(

[WSFuser]

-{ Quote: "i'm taking about the History menu
in the 3.5.7 , i have the last 10 sites visited" }-
Then try this extension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/682

[Trooper]

I thought jump list support for Windows 7 was going to be added for this release? Or is that going to be part of 3.7?

[Get]

-{ Quote: "Crashing Behavior of FF is still working perfectly.:(" }-


Indeed! :thumb: (only thing that worked here...).

[WSFuser]

Jump list support will be in Firefox 4.0 (there will be no 3.7).

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "Jump list support will be in Firefox 4.0 (there will be no 3.7)." }-
is there a date about firefox 4?

[WSFuser]

Probably late 2010 or early 2011.

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "is there a date about firefox 4?" }-

October-November 2010 is being tossed around, but it's more likely early 2011.

[Trooper]

-{ Quote: "Jump list support will be in Firefox 4.0 (there will be no 3.7)." }-

Thank you for the information. Thought 3.7 was next. Goes to show how I've become out of touch with Firefox sadly.

This is where I read about 3.7 Windows 7 and the Jump List. (http://www.techspot.com/news/36480-firefox-37-to-bring-windows-7-jumplist-support.html)

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "Thank you for the information. Thought 3.7 was next. Goes to show how I've become out of touch with Firefox sadly.

This is where I read about 3.7 Windows 7 and the Jump List. (http://www.techspot.com/news/36480-firefox-37-to-bring-windows-7-jumplist-support.html)" }-

Yeah, they decided, thankfully, to start doing upgrades in increments instead of bundling new functions up in another release. The more I play with 3.6, the more it shows it's still the same old browser. I still get the high memory use/cpu usage, the hangs, and the extremely annoying FF process still running after I have closed the browser, making me physically kill it in Process Explorer.

[GlobalForce]

Hey Fuser, if it empowers our boy Mantra to surf the web his way - I'm all for it.

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "...the extremely annoying FF process still running after I have closed the browser, making me physically kill it in Process Explorer." }-I don't have any FF process running after I close FF. That makes me feel sort of ...umm... left out. :-[

But seriously folks -- 3.6 is VERRRY zippy on my computer. Faster by far than its predecessors. Ram use for me, with 6 tabs open, is only 48MB. :thumb:

[Sadeghi85]

I haven't noticed any speed improvement compared to 3.5.7. Both are stable.

RAM usage depends on settings in about:config, available memory and the webpages you surf. For me it's around 140MB.

To get a bit faster response than default, change these settings in about:config

browser.history_expire_days --> 30
browser.history_expire_days.mirror --> 30
browser.history_expire_days_min --> 15

And use Vacuum Places Improved (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/13878) every 5 days or so.

[acuariano]

Sade that must be a good tip..about the plugin it says "It's possible to configure the add to auto-clean your places.sqlite every x startups "
-bu you recomend every 5 days..

[Sadeghi85]

Well thanks, didn't notice the options, thought this should be done manually.

So it does it automatically, good!

[acuariano]

Sade these settings
browser.history_expire_days --> 30
browser.history_expire_days.mirror --> 30
browser.history_expire_days_min --> 15

can be done in options..ot it has to be done in about:config

[Sadeghi85]

browser.history_expire_days_min, can be changed in options, but the others in about:config

Of course you can set it to whatever you'd like, I just thought the default value(90 days) is too much and causes places.sqlite to grow too much.

[JRViejo]

FYI. After installation, found quite a few Java Console extensions had been added.

Found this thread: Java Console extensions (http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1708795), initiated by our Wilders member twl845, at the Mozilla forums.

Uninstalled all of them, except for 6.0.17, and upon installation of the newest JRE 6.0.18, the Java Console add-on reflected that update.

[acuariano]

-{ Quote: "browser.history_expire_days_min, can be changed in options, but the others in about:config

Of course you can set it to whatever you'd like, I just thought the default value(90 days) is too much and causes places.sqlite to grow too much." }-
thanks

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "I don't have any FF process running after I close FF. That makes me feel sort of ...umm... left out. :-[

But seriously folks -- 3.6 is VERRRY zippy on my computer. Faster by far than its predecessors. Ram use for me, with 6 tabs open, is only 48MB. :thumb:" }-

Be glad you're left out, it drives me batty. As I type this, with Wilders only open, no other tabs, 50+MB usage. I'm quite happy with the speed, it IS zippy. But when you have a bunch of other issues, suddenly the speed no longer matters as much. Damn ABP and NoScript for keeping me from removing FF, lol. Seriously, FF does have its good points and 3.6 isn't a bad release.

[ratchet]

-{ Quote: "I haven't noticed any speed improvement compared to 3.5.7. Both are stable.

RAM usage depends on settings in about:config, available memory and the webpages you surf. For me it's around 140MB.

To get a bit faster response than default, change these settings in about:config

browser.history_expire_days --> 30
browser.history_expire_days.mirror --> 30
browser.history_expire_days_min --> 15

And use Vacuum Places Improved (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/13878) every 5 days or so." }-
Does this do the same thing as SpeedyFox?

[WSFuser]

Yes, Vacuum Places Improved does the same thing as SpeedyFox.

[Pinga]

-{ Quote: "Yes, Vacuum Places Improved does the same thing as SpeedyFox." }-
No, SpeedyFox compacts the other sqlite files, too. (CCleaner can do that too, by the way.)

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "No, SpeedyFox compacts the other sqlite files, too. (CCleaner can do that too, by the way.)" }-Thanks - I didn't know that. I have checked the appropriate block on CC's GUI.

[Cloudcroft]

-{ Quote: "FYI. After installation, found quite a few Java Console extensions had been added.

Found this thread: Java Console extensions (http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=1708795), initiated by our Wilders member twl845, at the Mozilla forums.

Uninstalled all of them, except for 6.0.17, and upon installation of the newest JRE 6.0.18, the Java Console add-on reflected that update." }-
Thanks, I've been looking for help on this.

[JRViejo]

-{ Quote: "Thanks, I've been looking for help on this." }-
Cloudcroft, you're welcome! Take care.

JR

[JRViejo]

-{ Quote: "The latest version of Firefox has some welcome, but not revolutionary, changes.

The just-released final version of Firefox 3.6 (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/) is a moderate improvement over previous versions -- it's faster and introduces a nifty new feature or two. But at heart, it's the same browser that has steadily gained market share against Internet Explorer for years.

This newest iteration shows all signs of continuing that trend, because it's opened up an even wider speed gap against Internet Explorer, better adheres to Web standards and adds a nice trick or two. Those who favor raw speed alone will still prefer Chrome, but Firefox is clearly superior to Chome when it comes to full-featured Web browsing." }-
Review: Firefox 3.6 adds speed and Personas -- but is it enough? (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9147539/Review_Firefox_3.6_adds_speed_and_Personas_but_is_it_enough_) by Preston Gralla.

[Eice]

-{ Quote: "Review: Firefox 3.6 adds speed and Personas -- but is it enough? (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9147539/Review_Firefox_3.6_adds_speed_and_Personas_but_is_it_enough_) by Preston Gralla." }-
Sometimes I feel sorry for those reviewers, having to write these articles when each release brings more or less nothing new.

[mantra]

i waited more about 3.6

is there an extension to block the malware sites? similar to adblock

the built in is not the best

firefox4 is amazing ugly seems a copy of chrome, i'm sure all the plugins and themes will not working


-{ Quote: "
But seriously folks -- 3.6 is VERRRY zippy on my computer. Faster by far than its predecessors. Ram use for me, with 6 tabs open, is only 48MB" }-
in there upgrade list there is is more fast micro seconds

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "No, SpeedyFox compacts the other sqlite files, too. (CCleaner can do that too, by the way.)" }-
does ccleaner do the same good job as speedyfox?

[progress]

-{ Quote: "themes are not compatible
" }-

Try out one of 10.000 personas themes :)

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "Try out one of 10.000 personas themes :)" }-
they are super ugly

[progress]

-{ Quote: "they are super ugly" }-

I love them :-*

[bonedriven]

-{ Quote: "You don't need the Personas extension anymore in 3.6, its functionality is baked right into this new version. If you have Firefox 3.6 then you can just go to http://www.getpersonas.com and begin using the themes there." }-

Thank you for the reply,Firebytes. :)

[DOSawaits]

-{ Quote: "they are super ugly" }-
And on top of that, you don't see any of your menu bar items or bookmarks toollbar items without putting on glasses.

OTOH, I think it is indeed starting and closing a tad faster than 3.5.7, but like all widely used applications it has passed the line where all fine things are there already, and every new update adds mostly silly or barely used/usable stuff.

But it's ok for me.:)

[Pinga]

-{ Quote: "does ccleaner do the same good job as speedyfox?" }-
Good question! :) I think yes but perhaps we should test them some more...

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "Good question! :) I think yes but perhaps we should test them some more..." }-
i tested
crapcleaner optimazes only 1 file
speedyfox optimazes many files

but i did not find a speed up

[GlobalForce]

Yo Mantra - you want Opera w/extensions! :D

[icr]

-{ Quote: "Mine hangs at around 43MB or so most of the time. I have 4 gigs ram. I don't think I'll miss the 43MB." }-


Same here too:)

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "Yo Mantra - you want Opera w/extensions! :D" }-
you got it

[GlobalForce]

Pssst ... I don't really care for FF :dry: either - primitive compared to Op.

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "i tested
crapcleaner optimazes only 1 file
speedyfox optimazes many files" }-Test again. My IT did a test & CC optimized ALL the .sqlite files.

[acuariano]

-{ Quote: "Test again. My IT did a test & CC optimized ALL the .sqlite files." }-
bellgamin,what did you check in ccleaner to optimized all the s.qlite files?

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "bellgamin,what did you check in ccleaner to optimized all the s.qlite files?" }-"Compact databases"
214981

[acuariano]

thanks bellgamin

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "Test again. My IT did a test & CC optimized ALL the .sqlite files." }-
try to run ccleaner inside a sandboxie
and look in the sadboxie the file optimazed

[GlobalForce]

WooHoo (http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-10439970-12.html)! You know, if you're into this sorta thing.

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "try to run ccleaner inside a sandboxie
and look in the sadboxie the file optimazed" }-I no longer use Sandboxie very often. Instead I use DefenseWall & Shadow Defender.

In any event, my IT does the serious testing here, not me. He says CC cleans all .sqlite files for FF very nicely. So does my 11-year-old granddaughter ...who often beats me at chess. One argues with her at his own peril. :argh:

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "I no longer use Sandboxie very often. Instead I use DefenseWall & Shadow Defender.

In any event, my IT does the serious testing here, not me. He says CC cleans all .sqlite files for FF very nicely. So does my 11-year-old granddaughter ...who often beats me at chess. One argues with her at his own peril. :argh:" }-
sorry bellgamin

you IT is right! ccleaner does the same job of speedyfox

by the way i don't know how much is safe ccleaner or speedyfox

[mantra]

i know why after an update i become log off from many sites

because some cookies after an update,do expiry, expiration

is there a way to lock the expiry, expiration of the cookies?

[GlobalForce]

Think extension - one of'em might work.

[pinso]

Yeah i m using Firefox 3.5 and i dont know whats the fuss about version 3.6 . All i care is v3.5 is good so was 3.4 / 3.3 . Although the upgrade versions are better, but to each his/her own.
Firefox Download: (http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.6&os=win&lang=en-US)
Will download later::D:thumb:

[WSFuser]

-{ Quote: "is there a way to lock the expiry, expiration of the cookies?" }-
You could try this extension (you'll need to bump its max version though):

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/573

Also even with this extension, you'll have to edit each individual cookie afaik.

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "You could try this extension (you'll need to bump its max version though):

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/573

Also even with this extension, you'll have to edit each individual cookie afaik." }-
thank you so much

but -{ Quote: "This add-on is for older versions of Firefox" }-

should i download from here i guess http://addneditcookies.mozdev.org/installation.html

[WSFuser]

Thats why you have to bump the max version:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Editing_an_add-on_to_change_its_compatibility

[tlu]

-{ Quote: "
is there an extension to block the malware sites? similar to adblock
" }-

Yes, AdblockPlus with the Malware Domains subscription from http://adblockplus.org/en/subscriptions

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "Yes, AdblockPlus with the Malware Domains subscription from http://adblockplus.org/en/subscriptions" }-

And it works well, but be aware that it can make an impact on speed. Both opening FF and surfing with it.

[tlu]

-{ Quote: "Sometimes I feel sorry for those reviewers, having to write these articles when each release brings more or less nothing new." }-

;D On the other hand the out-of-date plugin check is definitely very important given that many exploits come through them - see also http://adblockplus.org/blog/the-new-browser-security-landscape .

Another improvement not mentioned in the article (although actually already introduced in 3.5.7, I think) is the fact that finally, finally also limited users are informed about FF updates. But since this Computerworld guy is probably permanently logged on as admin or has disabled UAC like most people here, this new feature is irrelevant for him ...;)

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "Yes, AdblockPlus with the Malware Domains subscription from http://adblockplus.org/en/subscriptions" }-
thanks!

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "And it works well, but be aware that it can make an impact on speed. Both opening FF and surfing with it." }-
does it slow down a lot?
thanks

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "does it slow down a lot?
thanks" }-

It certainly made the browser feel "heavy" to me. It took a few seconds longer to start FF than it does without the list. As far as regular surfing, again, it felt a bit sluggish. Your experience of course may vary. I've since stopped using it because I feel, as with all blacklist-type protection, these domains change daily, and malware can appear on a site and vanish from a site within a few hours. It's simply impossible to keep up.

[firzen771]

im running the malware list aswell as 3 other lists and not noticing any browsing or browser launch slowdowns:-\

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "im running the malware list aswell as 3 other lists and not noticing any browsing or browser launch slowdowns:-\" }-

Lucky you, lol. It wasn't deal-breaking in any sense, again, just a bit sluggish. As I said, experience varies :)

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "Lucky you, lol. It wasn't deal-breaking in any sense, again, just a bit sluggish. As I said, experience varies :)" }-
did not know that adblock can block sites
i though it used to block advertising

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "did not know that adblock can block sites
i though it used to block advertising" }-

It does, but that list was made to block entire domains/sites (IIRC). Again though, they change so frequently, I'm not sure it does much good.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "It does, but that list was made to block entire domains/sites (IIRC). Again though, they change so frequently, I'm not sure it does much good." }-

better than nothing, especially if u dont even notice its running :)

[Sadeghi85]

Is there an add-on or setting to disable Java? Older versions of Firefox had an option but it doesn't anymore.

[Pinga]

-{ Quote: "Is there an add-on or setting to disable Java?" }-
NoScript can do that:

http://noscript.net/

[Sadeghi85]

-{ Quote: "NoScript can do that:

http://noscript.net/" }-

Thanks, added :D

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "NoScript can do that:

http://noscript.net/" }-
yes but it's pretty boring noscript
pop up to many time>:(

[Sadeghi85]

-{ Quote: "yes but it's pretty boring noscript
pop up to many time>:(" }-

Allow those sites that you are frequent and mark the random sites as untrusted. Pretty easy :D


-{ Quote: "
Some sites, especially those serving ads, can appear in your "Allow ..." menu more often than you like, making it too much long and noisy.

If you know you don't want to allow a certain site now and in the foreseeable future, you can permanently mark it as untrusted: just click the NoScript icon, open the Untrusted menu and select the Mark bad-site.com as Untrusted menu item.

NoScript won't even propose you to allow it again and your NoScript will be even more clean and usable.

If you later change your mind, don't worry: just open the Untrusted menu again (on the same page), and you'll find the Allow bad-site.com command there." }-

http://noscript.net/features

[mantra]

i did notice that the most visited and the last visited (smart bookmarks) disapeard

should set browser.places.smartBookmarksVersion to 0 ? http://support.mozilla.com/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?locale=eu&forumId=1&comments_parentId=79762
i found on the net
but i doesn't recreate the last visited :wacko: :wacko:

[Pinga]

-{ Quote: "Is there an add-on or setting to disable Java?" }-
Just found this: QuickJava. Does exactly what you want. It will work with 3.6 if you adjust install.rdf accordingly.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1237

[Sadeghi85]

Thanks Pinga, NoScript is so much better because it can block any plugin :)

[mantra]

but does the smart bookmark last/recently visited work?

[mantra]

what's going on ?
today they realese firefox 3.5.8 http://www.filehippo.com/download_firefox/changelog/7066/

and sometime ago they released 3.6:wacko: :wacko:

[Sadeghi85]

Support for older versions.

Mozilla patches critical Firefox bugs (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?p=1625528)

[tgell]

-{ Quote: "Mozilla is going to end support and updates after the 3.0.18 release in mid-February. Firefox 3.5 will continue to be updated for the next 6-months (or so) or until Firefox 3.7/4.0 is released later this year." }-

Article (http://ffextensionguru.wordpress.com/2010/01/21/firefox-3-6-released/)

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "Thats why you have to bump the max version:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Editing_an_add-on_to_change_its_compatibility" }-
thank a lot WSFuser

i remember a great component that fixed the memory leak or avoid firefox consume to much ram

mine sometime is about 340mb :(

[NoIos]

Opera is the way to go if someone wants a bit more stability. Firefox is horrible on how handles memory @ default settings.

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "...i remember a great component that fixed the memory leak or avoid firefox consume to much ram

mine sometime is about 340mb :(" }-I use FF & surf a lot, with lots of open tabs. Ram usage never exceeds ~56MB.

[nikanthpromod]

mine always around 80MB. But it never exceed 120Mb.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "I use FF & surf a lot, with lots of open tabs. Ram usage never exceeds ~56MB." }-

mine is at 346mb right now, but i keep my firefox open and never close it unless i restart my PC, so its on most the day and always 5-6 tabs open at the minimum, usually more and i also use themes and quite a few extensions, but i dont really mind the memory usage considering everything i have going on in firefox and i dont notice much slowdown so im okay with it.

[tlu]

Before complaining about alleged "memory leak" one should carefully read http://kb.mozillazine.org/Reducing_memory_usage_-_Firefox

Regarding issues with Firefox in general this (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Issues_with_Firefox) is the site to go. Particularly important is standard diagnostic (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Standard_diagnostic_-_Firefox).

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "Before complaining about alleged "memory leak" one should carefully read http://kb.mozillazine.org/Reducing_memory_usage_-_Firefox

Regarding issues with Firefox in general this (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Issues_with_Firefox) is the site to go. Particularly important is standard diagnostic (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Standard_diagnostic_-_Firefox)." }-
good point
by the way the component that improve ram usage is not https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/5972

[Mrkvonic]

A quick note for Windows users:

If you're running real-time anti-malware of some kind, it could be hooking into the firefox process and causing all kinds of issues. With no resident anti-malware on Windows, my experience shows 30-40MB usage cold and about 70-80MB with 10-15 tabs, no memory leaks, instant launch and tab opening. This holds true for 2GB machines installed once with xp in 2005 and 2006.

It's how you use it. The smart choice of software can make wonders.

Mrk

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "A quick note for Windows users:

If you're running real-time anti-malware of some kind, it could be hooking into the firefox process and causing all kinds of issues. With no resident anti-malware on Windows, my experience shows 30-40MB usage cold and about 70-80MB with 10-15 tabs, no memory leaks, instant launch and tab opening. This holds true for 2GB machines installed once with xp in 2005 and 2006.

It's how you use it. The smart choice of software can make wonders.

Mrk" }-
i use only nod32 and avira on a laptop (with avira free) 350mb of ram:wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "i use only nod32 and avira on a laptop (with avira free) 350mb of ram:wacko: :wacko: :wacko:" }-

ur using 2 realtime AV's??

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "ur using 2 realtime AV's??" }-
nope
on a laptop avira
on a desktop nod32

[Sadeghi85]

mantra,

Install CleanMem (http://www.pcwintech.com/cleanmem).

[Mrkvonic]

Just for fun, try without AV and see the difference.
Mrk

[Escalader]

-{ Quote: "A quick note for Windows users:

If you're running real-time anti-malware of some kind, it could be hooking into the firefox process and causing all kinds of issues. With no resident anti-malware on Windows, my experience shows 30-40MB usage cold and about 70-80MB with 10-15 tabs, no memory leaks, instant launch and tab opening. This holds true for 2GB machines installed once with xp in 2005 and 2006.

It's how you use it. The smart choice of software can make wonders.

Mrk" }-



How are you doing? Ignore this ?

In your Linux world do you use recovery images ever when things go wrong?

In Linux world are there ways of avoiding drive by malware from evil sites?

If I'm OT please put this post elsewhere, thanks.

[Mrkvonic]

Hi there,

I'm doing fine. Not sure what to ignore ...

Avoid drive-bys in Linux is the same as Windows ... boring.

Recovery - only if I botch really bad, which I try to avoid anyhow ...

Mrk

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "Just for fun, try without AV and see the difference.
Mrk" }-"Difference"? Difference in WHAT? Ram usage? CPU usage? Surfing speed? What?

[Mrkvonic]

All of the above.
Mrk

[Escalader]

-{ Quote: "Hi there,

I'm doing fine. Not sure what to ignore ...

Avoid drive-bys in Linux is the same as Windows ... boring.

Recovery - only if I botch really bad, which I try to avoid anyhow ...


Mrk" }-


Well good!

Drive by malware was not so boring for my son who went to a comic book site:argh: with no recovery images. Took him 3 days to bring his setup back and ALL his data was obsoleted. Yes he had a RT AV on it tagged it but he chose "ignore" that was another valuable lesson.

Now he has recovery images I set up for him. So far he has used those about half a dozen times! When he gets a message now he deletes but still recovers as he is gun shy!

Sigh....

[Zeena]

Hi :)

-{ Quote: "And on top of that, you don't see any of your menu bar items or bookmarks toollbar items without putting on glasses.

OTOH, I think it is indeed starting and closing a tad faster than 3.5.7, but like all widely used applications it has passed the line where all fine things are there already, and every new update adds mostly silly or barely used/usable stuff.

But it's ok for me.:)" }-

I Use This...
Firefox Theme - Aeon Big : https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/767
Been using it for about 12 months now.
Looks much nicer once installed 8)

Tried a few other themes in the past.. Didn't like any of them :thumbd:

However!
1) Find Aeon Big is nice and clear without being too large.
2) Always seems to be kept up to date .. In time for new versions of Firefox :thumb:
3) Any buttons, icons etc.. Always seem to match well with this theme.

Plus!
Works well with..
Firefox Add-On - Colourful Tabs: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1368#reviews

Zeena

[mantra]

firefox uses 50mb of hard disk space

maybe increase this value will make ff consume less ram

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "mantra,

Install CleanMem (http://www.pcwintech.com/cleanmem)." }-
thanks

should i setup xp scheduler ?

[mantra]

one thing that i can understand for example is cooliris Piclens

on firefox is slow ,with some glitches micro freezes

on chrome is amazing fast:wacko:

[Sadeghi85]

-{ Quote: "firefox uses 50mb of hard disk space

maybe increase this value will make ff consume less ram" }-

This doesn't have any immediate effect on ram usage, just when the cache is full Firefox will struggle to free some space to put newer cache files. This, however will speed up page loads because FF can cache more pages. I personally set it to use 500mb.


-{ Quote: "thanks

should i setup xp scheduler ?" }-

The installer will setup the schedule itself, but you can change the repeat interval in task scheduler. Default is 30 minutes.



-{ Quote: "one thing that i can understand for example is cooliris Piclens

on firefox is slow ,with some glitches micro freezes

on chrome is amazing fast:wacko:" }-

mantra,

Could you do some tests?

Download Portable Firefox 3.6 from this page (http://portableappz.blogspot.com/2010/02/firefox-3018-36-20020-multilingual-37.html), extract it to Desktop -> FirefoxPortable1. Close all FF windows then go to FirefoxPortable1 folder and run FirefoxPortable.exe, add cooliris and see if it's still slow or ram usage is still high.

For testing other addons extract Portable Firefox to FirefoxPortable2 and so on. This will narrow down the ram and speed problem.

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "

Download Portable Firefox 3.6 from this page (http://portableappz.blogspot.com/2010/02/firefox-3018-36-20020-multilingual-37.html), extract it to Desktop -> FirefoxPortable1. Close all FF windows then go to FirefoxPortable1 folder and run FirefoxPortable.exe, add cooliris and see if it's still slow or ram usage is still high.

For testing other addons extract Portable Firefox to FirefoxPortable2 and so on. This will narrow down the ram and speed problem." }-
but firefox portable will ruin my profile

[Sadeghi85]

-{ Quote: "but firefox portable will ruin my profile" }-

What? portable version has its own profile.

[mantra]

-{ Quote: "What? portable version has its own profile." }-
are you sure?
because http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
i tried it and it mess up my profile

[Sadeghi85]

Well, the portable version in my link is a different one than portableapps.com

But anyway, you can do either of these

backup your profile prior to use portable version
try the portable version on another windows installation
try it in shadow mode using returnil home free

[twl845]

-{ Quote: "This doesn't have any immediate effect on ram usage, just when the cache is full Firefox will struggle to free some space to put newer cache files. This, however will speed up page loads because FF can cache more pages. I personally set it to use 500mb.
" }-
I had my cache set for 50mb with the understanding that the cache would purge itself when it's full, and if I raised the amount, it would slow FF down once it got near full. I will take your advice and raise it up to 500mb and see what happens. Thanks for the advice.:)

[Escalader]

I have my cache at 1,000 mb.

[twl845]

-{ Quote: "I have my cache at 1,000 mb." }-
Hi Escalader, How are you doing? What is the advantage to setting it that high? :)