NANO AntiVirus

[ViVek]

Hi all i found on web
NANO AntiVirus but is still beta
http://www.nanoav.ru/

[dw426]

Isn't this like the 3rd, 4th "new AV" in a week? I'm starting to get a bit suspicious with these posts. *adjusts his tinfoil hat*

[Pleonasm]

For this and other “new anti-virus solutions,” I wonder: what is their competitive advantage? Stated differently, what feature/benefit do they bring to the marketplace that doesn’t already exist? If they are indeed innovating, then that’s great -- but, otherwise YAAV (“yet another anti-virus”) is not advancing the state of the discipline.

Edit: Typing error.

[bellgamin]

It's a beta -- they are looking for help. I hope one of the AV gurus here ( of which I am NOT one) will give them a hand.

We might have a budding Kaspersky on the horizon -- if folks help them out.

Is Nano a No-No? Nanu nanu!

/s/ Mork from Ork :lurking:

[Noob]

Give them a chance :D

[Wan]

The GUI looks good :thumb: :D

[simisg]

wot says bad reputation

[antivirus22]

From the Forum, translated to english, what is the kaspersky reference all about?

This can be done either here or from the quarantine NANO Kaspersky.

Also very help logging NANO Virus (labeled "Send logs to customer support" in the Start Menu \ NANO Kaspersky)

[nikanthpromod]

I tried it today .Good looking.
Installation took long time.
Memory usage was around 90MB.
I tested it with 4 malwares( 2 rogues and 2 Troj.downloaders)
It failed all those:thumbd:
I had Smithfraudfix and combofix in my pc. Nano detected those as trojans.???
I then tested it with EICAR . It detected .

u can find those pics Here (http://rapidshare.com/files/334594858/NANO.rar)

[Fly]

WHOIS info indicates they use some kind of anonymity service.
The English version of the website is REALLY bad. If you can't do it professionally, then don't do it at all.
Smitfraudfix and Combofix detected as trojans ?

Potentially rogue, IMO.

[clocks]

-{ Quote: "
Memory usage was around 90MB.

u can find those pics Here (http://rapidshare.com/files/334594858/NANO.rar)" }-

90 meg!?!? wow

[Vladimyr]

-{ Quote: "WHOIS info indicates they use some kind of anonymity service.
The English version of the website is REALLY bad. If you can't do it professionally, then don't do it at all.
Smitfraudfix and Combofix detected as trojans ?

Potentially rogue, IMO." }-
Potentially an over-reaction IMO ::)

The product may be rubbish but using such a reverse-psychology mind-messin' MO as this:

"1.I'm sure the file is infected but NANO AntiVirus reports the file is clear.

Answer: One of the most probable cause is the sample of that virus is not presented in our database. Perhaps you had catch "fresh" just created malware."

on their FAQ page (http://www.nanoav.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=16&Itemid=59&lang=en) to entice me to download the program is certainly breaking new ground in the rogue-purveyor business. ;D

[cqpreson]

Was this company set up in 2009?The introduction of this company on official website is Russian,I can't catch any information.Who can introduce it in detail?

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "Isn't this like the 3rd, 4th "new AV" in a week? I'm starting to get a bit suspicious with these posts. *adjusts his tinfoil hat*" }-

I honesty don't understand why these get posted ether. In a way it's pointless and honesty will just confused newbies to the forum to what might be a viable solution and what might not be. But meh maybe that's just my view.

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "
I had Smithfraudfix and combofix in my pc. Nano detected those as trojans.???
" }-
Thank you for the testing. We scanned last versions of Smithfraudfix and Combofix, it's ok. Can I ask you to send to us your fake files for analysis? Thank you in advance.

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "
I tested it with 4 malwares( 2 rogues and 2 Troj.downloaders)
....
u can find those pics Here (http://rapidshare.com/files/334594858/NANO.rar)" }-
Are you sure these 4 malwares are really malwares?
We took a look at pictures you had enclosed and found that you had been using a fake antivirus for detecting of these malwares.

~Link to questionable software removed. Ron~

[Fly]

-{ Quote: "Are you sure these 4 malwares are really malwares?
We took a look at pictures you had enclosed and found that you had been using a fake antivirus for detecting of these malwares.

~Link to questionable software removed. Ron~" }-

Really ?

What was the 'fake antivirus' ?
If I had to guess which one was 'fake', it would be Nano.

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "Really ?

What was the 'fake antivirus' ?
If I had to guess which one was 'fake', it would be Nano." }-

Unfortanutely my link was removed, so I meant "Personal Security" which interface you can see on the pic of nikanthpromod.
Sorry if we misunderstood, but we want to ask nikanthpromod.

As for your previous post:
-{ Quote: "WHOIS info indicates they use some kind of anonymity service." }-
What do you mean?

[Vladimyr]

Looks pretty normal to me.

domain: NANOAV.RU
type: CORPORATE
nserver: ns.altacomp.ru.
nserver: ns.nanoav.ru. 84.42.39.75
nserver: ns.ukbmz.ru.
state: REGISTERED, DELEGATED, VERIFIED
org: OOO "e-Style ISP"
phone: +7 495 7969797
e-mail: host@e-styleisp.ru
registrar: RUCENTER-REG-RIPN
created: 2008.09.23
paid-till: 2010.09.23
source: TCI

[quanzi_1507]

-{ Quote: "Unfortanutely my link was removed, so I meant "Personal Security" which interface you can see on the pic of nikanthpromod.
Sorry if we misunderstood, but we want to ask nikanthpromod." }-
nikanthpromod didn't use Personal Security to detect malwares. He installed it on purpose and then installed Nano Antivirus to test if Nano Antivirus would detect and remove the "fake antivirus" (Personal Security). Unfortunately it didn't.

Say, if you (Nano AV's developper I guess) actually know that Personal Security was a "fake antivirus", why did't Nano Antivirus detect it?

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "Say, if you (Nano AV's developper I guess) actually know that Personal Security was a "fake antivirus", why did't Nano Antivirus detect it?" }-
The reason is simple. That "fake antivirus" is not in our virus base yet.
Any help is appreciated. If you have this sample, please send it to us and we will add it in the next update of our virus base. You can use the form on our site, which address you will find in my profile.

[Jeremy0315]

Why does a Google search for Nano Antivirus suggest that it is rogue?

Search results are full of "How to remove Nano antivirus" pages.

[Baz_kasp]

-{ Quote: "Why does a Google search for Nano Antivirus suggest that it is rogue?

Search results are full of "How to remove Nano antivirus" pages." }-


Because there was a fake av variant called nano av a while back.

[Fly]

-{ Quote: "Because there was a fake av variant called nano av a while back." }-

Then how do you know when it isn't fake/rogue ? :dry:

Too many new AVs/antimalwares without any solid background. At best, they are just ineffective.

Why post them at this board ? People want to play with them ?
IMO, 'playing' is all they are good for.

If it requires signatures, it requires a lot of resources. Generally, these new ones don't have that. Why take a risk when there are some many AVs that have a good reputation and are tested, more or less objectively ?

[nanoav]

To Fly
You are not objective. I understand why you don't want to use a new AVs. But draw attention we have the reliable site with "live" forum, the support by e-mail, ICQ, Skype, phone, the twitter page. Our company registered in DUNS (683521635). We are registered partners of Microsoft. Our files are duly signed by Verisign certificate. We have juridical address and so on. You can doubt our efficiency but you can't allege our product is rogue.

[nikanthpromod]

-{ Quote: "Are you sure these 4 malwares are really malwares?
We took a look at pictures you had enclosed and found that you had been using a fake antivirus for detecting of these malwares.

~Link to questionable software removed. Ron~" }-

Yes those are real malwares.

[nikanthpromod]

i removed my pics from rapidshare. SO i couldnt remember the malwares i used that time:-\

[Zetelo]

-{ Quote: "To Fly
You are not objective. I understand why you don't want to use a new AVs. But draw attention we have the reliable site with "live" forum, the support by e-mail, ICQ, Skype, phone, the twitter page. Our company registered in DUNS (683521635). We are registered partners of Microsoft. Our files are duly signed by Verisign certificate. We have juridical address and so on. You can doubt our efficiency but you can't allege our product is rogue." }-

I've read a few of Fly's post and I have to admit that this guy is just a narrow-minded user. Don't argue with him, you've done nothing wrong ;)

[Fly]

-{ Quote: "I've read a few of Fly's post and I have to admit that this guy is just a narrow-minded user. Don't argue with him, you've done nothing wrong ;)" }-

Thanks for calling me like that. You happen to know me well ? :dry:

[Watasha]

Why would an AV company choose the name of a recent well-known fake AV rogue????

[Franklin]

Unfortunately there was a rogue by the same/very similar name a while back.

Google "NANO AntiVirus" or see Bleeping Computer (http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/virus-removal/remove-nano-antivirus).

[quanzi_1507]

Well there are two VIRUSfighters too, one is from SPAMfighter, the other is a rogue.

Some rogue removal sites even suggest blocking http://www.spamfighter.com/ url :D

[TheIgster]

I tested this one briefly. Didn't do very well at all.

[bellgamin]

@user "nanoav"
1- What exactly does System Guard do?

2- Please provide more information as to Nano's heuristics, behavior blocker, or other provisions for detecting/preventing zero-day malware.
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I gave Nano AV a short trial. It does NOT require a restart during installation. Therefore I was able to trial it in Shadow Mode, using Shadow Defender.

It's a 37.5MB download. At only 102-106 KB/sec, the download took several minutes.

Install was relatively slow, too. The install thermometer quickly moved to about 75% but then slowed or hung & took about 3+ minutes to finish the install job.

The updater works good, & is very informative as to progress & what is being downloaded.

Main GUI (before I did the update) . . .

221045

Nano has only one process listed. Process Explorer info re that process, shortly after installing Nano . . .

221046
221047

Nano's System Guard didn't work. Perhaps that was because I was in Shadow Mode, but all other antivirus programs run just fine in Shadow Mode. In any event, I did send the logs to the Nano folks.

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[atomomega]

-{ Quote: "Then how do you know when it isn't fake/rogue ? :dry:

Too many new AVs/antimalwares without any solid background. At best, they are just ineffective.

Why post them at this board ? People want to play with them ?
IMO, 'playing' is all they are good for." }-

Man, give'm a break, the sun shines for everybody.

At the end of the day, if you don't like it or if you aren't into it just leave this thread and post on any of the other hundreds of threads that are open @ Wilders. If the posted it on this board maybe it's because the site is all about computer security.

[sg09]

I was impressed with Nano last time I tested it few days ago. It detected many of the threats in my set of malwares although I have published the hashlists of those malwares already. So i did not update the results in the main list. The removal process and installation process is a bit lengthy and also it consumes a bit many RAM, but did not slow down my VM with ~700Mb RAM. I am hoping to get a good AV in future.

[simisg]

in my set of malware from malware domain detects nothing......
slow installation also

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "Why would an AV company choose the name of a recent well-known fake AV rogue????" }-
Your assumption is incorrect. We have registered our trade name before the appearance of that fake AV. Really we have many problems with this upsetting name coincidence. But now I guess the main part of problems is behind. Russian searchers (and google.ru too) almost don't offer links to any info about that fake AV:)

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "@user "nanoav"
1- What exactly does System Guard do?

2- Please provide more information as to Nano's heuristics, behavior blocker, or other provisions for detecting/preventing zero-day malware.
" }-
Thank you for the trial of our program.
As for your questions:
1. The System Guard provides a real-time protection from any kinds of malware.
2. After the final release we are going to take part in VB100. So we will have official results. As for the present the VB100 team has tested our program, but we can't publish results as they are unofficial.

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "I was impressed with Nano last time I tested it few days ago. It detected many of the threats in my set of malwares although I have published the hashlists of those malwares already. So i did not update the results in the main list. The removal process and installation process is a bit lengthy and also it consumes a bit many RAM, but did not slow down my VM with ~700Mb RAM. I am hoping to get a good AV in future." }-Thank you for the trial of NANO AntiVirus:) . We work hard to improve our program and each new version contains some enhancements.

[Superman20]

is it their own engine or are they using another vendor's engine?

[sg09]

I guess its their own engine.
@nanoav: could you please update us each time you release a new beta or new version with change log?

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "I guess its their own engine." }-
Yes, your assumption is correct.
-{ Quote: "@nanoav: could you please update us each time you release a new beta or new version with change log?" }-
We have placed today the update to 0.12.0.2 Beta.
New in this version:
1. Fixed an error of the scanning of some pst-files (scanning process didn't come to an end and stopped on 99 %).
2. Fixed an error of memory scanning which occurred if there were installed drivers of old versions of StarForce.
3. Added the support of installation of NANO AntiVirus on systems with Internet Explorer 9 Beta.
4. Enhanced the detection of Sality.ag virus family.
5. Added some changes to the process of a license receipt and quarantine's files sending when proxy server is using.
6. Fixed some errors of the nanoreport utility.
7. Fixed an error of adding files in the quarantine if the file's path is putted in quotes.
8. Fixed a great number of slight errors.

Also you can find the news about new versions and updates on our site (http://www.nano-av.com). Follow us on Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/NANOantivirus) where we publish our news and actual information about new versions.

[steve1955]

don't you just love guys on here that are desperate to knock anything that isn't their flavour of the month!:-this is a new product still being developed:-that is why their website does ask for help:-(We present to you a free full-functional beta version of NANO AntiVirus. Please submit your offers and comments via our forum.) and nanoav has asked for help here:-give them a chance for pete's sake,its in beta:-and some of the betas of established AV companies have been dire! ~ Personal Comment Removed ~

[acr1965]

I see above that Nano uses its own scanning engine. Does it develop its own signatures as well? Also, any heuristics, generic sigs, etc? Has the system shield been tested against malware and has anyone run actross any conflicts?

[simisg]

tomorrow i will test the new version........

[sg09]

-{ Quote: "tomorrow i will test the new version........" }-
Do not forget to let us know how you liked it...:)

[andylau]

Does it has console/command line version?

I see its doc in website has parameters for its GUI-Based scanner, but how about a console/command line version?

[simisg]

im trying now in my virtual machine test this software but already takes 10 minutes only to install........let's see...

[simisg]

now says updating ....but very very slow

[simisg]

update failed for unknown reason
lets try to restart

[simisg]

very slow restart.....

[simisg]

starting update now good to see that

[simisg]

Ok after some problems in update
i have test it in my xp sp3 virtual machine
it has detect 5 in 15 zero day and older threats

memory usage is in 95 mb
and cpu usage in 4%
when idle

[nanoav]

steve1955, thank you:). Many people guess that any AV has to be excellent immediately.

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "I see above that Nano uses its own scanning engine. Does it develop its own signatures as well? Also, any heuristics, generic sigs, etc? Has the system shield been tested against malware and has anyone run actross any conflicts?" }-Yes, we develop all our signatures. We have own analytical virus laboratory.
As for the system guard, we test it before a release of any new version. If then some errors occur we fix them immediately.

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "Does it has console/command line version?

I see its doc in website has parameters for its GUI-Based scanner, but how about a console/command line version?" }-Yes, you can use a command line. You can find list of keys in the documentation on our site (http://www.nanoav.ru/index.php?option=com_content%3B&view=article%3B&id=532%3B&dev_help=32&version=&lang=en) or in the help file.

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "cpu usage in 4% when idle" }-Waaaay too much in my opinion. I hope they are working to cut this at least in half.

[nanoav]

Hi all,
The new version of NANO AntiVirus (0.14.0.0 Beta) (http://www.nanoav.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=50&lang=en) has been placed on the site.

New in this version:

1. Cut down considerably the memory capacity using by nanosvc.exe process.
2. Cut down the memory capacity using by update process.
3. Added the event log of performed tasks.
4. Added the event log of the System Guard.
5. Fixed rare error of statistic count.
6. Changed rules for the user name which is specified for the licensing process.
7. Fixed an error of the processing of password-protected archives in the quarantine.
8. Fixed rare error of the installation.
9. Fixed error causing the problem of the System Guard switching on.
10. Fixed error of saving of an user scanning task settings.
11. Fixed error of the displaying of the flag on the option "Deny access to infected files automatically".
12. Added slight changes to the interface.
13. Fixed a number of slight errors.

[sg09]

-{ Quote: "Hi all,
The new version of NANO AntiVirus (0.14.0.0 Beta) (http://www.nanoav.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=50&lang=en) has been placed on the site.

New in this version:

1. Cut down considerably the memory capacity using by nanosvc.exe process.
2. Cut down the memory capacity using by update process.
3. Added the event log of performed tasks.
4. Added the event log of the System Guard.
5. Fixed rare error of statistic count.
6. Changed rules for the user name which is specified for the licensing process.
7. Fixed an error of the processing of password-protected archives in the quarantine.
8. Fixed rare error of the installation.
9. Fixed error causing the problem of the System Guard switching on.
10. Fixed error of saving of an user scanning task settings.
11. Fixed error of the displaying of the flag on the option "Deny access to infected files automatically".
12. Added slight changes to the interface.
13. Fixed a number of slight errors." }-
I think this is a very promising list of changes. Wishing this try this soon.

[nanoav]

The update of NANO AntiVirus to the version 0.14.0.1 Beta (http://www.nanoav.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=50&lang=en) has been placed on the site.

New in this version:

1. Enhanced detection of MTX, Shruggle and some other virus families.
2. Enhanced detection of viruses with a hidden entry point (Virut.ce, for example).
3. Fixed the error of statistic count.
4. Fixed the error of processing of the trusted area on the portable media.
5. Fixed the error causing an excess request on sending of a suspicious file to the support.
6. Enlarged the System Guard event log size.
7. Fixed a number of slight errors.

[sg09]

-{ Quote: "The update of NANO AntiVirus to the version 0.14.0.1 Beta (http://www.nanoav.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=50&lang=en) has been placed on the site.

New in this version:

1. Enhanced detection of MTX, Shruggle and some other virus families.
2. Enhanced detection of viruses with a hidden entry point (Virut.ce, for example).
3. Fixed the error of statistic count.
4. Fixed the error of processing of the trusted area on the portable media.
5. Fixed the error causing an excess request on sending of a suspicious file to the support.
6. Enlarged the System Guard event log size.
7. Fixed a number of slight errors." }-
Thanks for the update. When are you thinking of releasing the stable build?

[Ibrad]

Any plans for an English forum?

[sg09]

-{ Quote: "Any plans for an English forum?" }-
There is a english forum
http://www.nanoav.ru/forum/viewforum.php?f=12&sid=d9ba1804a7b36525afa7cddbd814d1ff

[Ibrad]

Ah thanks when I hit to the forums everything was in Russian and I could not find anything.

[kerykeion]

Is it just me or isn't their logo very similar to the Xbox logo (only a side of it got moved a bit)?

Anyways, seems like this product is actively being developed, will give this a spin once I've setup my VMs again.

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "Ah thanks when I hit to the forums everything was in Russian and I could not find anything." }-You can change the forum language using combo box in the top right corner of the forum as I show here:223617

[steve1955]

-{ Quote: "You can change the forum language using combo box in the top right corner of the forum as I show here:223617" }-
Glad to see its the proper version of English:-the original "British" one! lol

[nanoav]

The update of NANO AntiVirus to the version 0.14.0.2 Beta (http://www.nanoav.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=50&lang=en) has been placed on the site.

New in this version:

1. Enhanced heuristics.
2. Enhanced scanning of .lnk files.
3. Fixed the error occasionally causes an internet disconnection on start of scanning in Windows 7 OS.
4. Fixed a number of errors of update process.
5. Fixed errors of interface.
6. Enhanced the mechanism of logs sending by NANO Report utility.
7. Fixed a number of slight errors.

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "Thanks for the update. When are you thinking of releasing the stable build?" }-Sorry for the delay as I haven't took notice to your question. The date of release wasn't set yet, but we hope it will be in the next year. Therewith I would like to notice that current version is quite stable.

[steve1955]

-{ Quote: "Thanks for the update. When are you thinking of releasing the stable build?" }-

That seems to be a bit of a dig at them?Kaspersky have been around for years and I'm not sure whether they have released a stable version of their 2011 products yet!

[iravgupta]

-{ Quote: "That seems to be a bit of a dig at them?Kaspersky have been around for years and I'm not sure whether they have released a stable version of their 2011 products yet!" }-
:thumb:

[sg09]

Last time I installed it (latest version) I could not complete the update. It took a lot of time but didn't complete.

[bellgamin]

I tried to install it, using Shadow Defender. Despite several tries, I was never able to get past the screen shown below -- even after waiting >15 minutes.

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Ergo, I still do not know if Nano needs a reboot during installation. Does it?
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I am following Nano's progress with great interest. I am very interested in learning more about Nano's effectiveness on zero-day stuff based on its heuristics, emulation, etc. (I wonder if it includes a behavior blocker?)

I am less interested in the scope of its signatures. In fact, I hope they plan to go cloud-based.

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "Last time I installed it (latest version) I could not complete the update. It took a lot of time but didn't complete." }-Could I ask you to send the logs?
Please use "Start->All programs->NANO AntiVirus->Send logs to the support service". Please describe the problem shortly. If you can't send logs with our utility, save them and send the file to support@nanoav.ru. Please describe the problem shortly.
Thank you very much in advance!

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "I tried to install it, using Shadow Defender. Despite several tries, I was never able to get past the screen shown below -- even after waiting >15 minutes." }-Thank you for your message. We will investigate the problem and will write here.
UPD. Could you say which version NANO AV do you try to install?
-{ Quote: "Ergo, I still do not know if Nano needs a reboot during installation. Does it?" }-No, needn't.

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "UPD. Could you say which version NANO AV do you try to install?" }-0.14.0.2

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "0.14.0.2" }-Could I ask you to send to us the installation logs? Press button "Show details" in the installation windows, copy all the text into .txt file and send to support@nanoav.ru. Please specify the subject as something like this: "Logs from bellgamin, wilderssecurity". Also we need an information about your PC (OS, hardware, free space on the system disk). Your help is very appreciated. Thank you in advance.

[Solidify]

ill try.
Where i submit false positives, my computer is full of secret files ! :b

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "ill try.
Where i submit false positives, my computer is full of secret files ! :b" }-You can send false positives to virus@nanoav.ru. Please specify "False positive" in the subject line, please. Do I understand you right?
Thank you in advance.

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "Could I ask you to send to us the installation logs? Press button "Show details" in the installation windows, copy all the text into .txt file and send to support@nanoav.ru. Please specify the subject as something like this: "Logs from bellgamin, wilderssecurity". Also we need an information about your PC (OS, hardware, free space on the system disk). Your help is very appreciated. Thank you in advance." }-I did a re-install, again using Shadow Defender. When I tried to copy the intallation log, it wouldn't highlight the entire contents of the log even though I held down the shift button while attempting to do so.

Therefore I decided to take screenshots of the logs. When I activated my screenshot program, it somehow pushed Nano's installer into finishing its job. Even so, it took Nano over 15 minutes to install itself.

I repeatedly tried to get a beta-test license so that I could get signature updates. Evidently this feature isn't activated because Nano told me it was unable to connect -- even though my connection is fully functional for everything (AV updates, Email, web surfing etc).
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Afterward I received a couple of nag screens. :dry:
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I ran Nano for about 1/2 hour . . .
+ Two processes show on Process Hacker: (1) starter.exe (2) nanosvc.exe.
+ Combined data: (a) Total CPU time ~2+ minutes (b) Pvt Memory 158MB (c) Virtual size 554MB
+ I/O usage was steady at ~2.22kB/S.
+ When surfing or using applications I sensed no slowdown.
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The GUI is intuitively easy to use. It has everything you could ask for EXCEPT it lacks settings for heuristics.

Nowadays I want an Antivirus program's GUI to give visible evidence that it has active and TWEAKABLE heuristics &/or behavior blocker.
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It seems to me that Nano is *behind the times* in NOT offering in-the-cloud technology. Even so, I think Nano is among the most promising new AVs in the pipeline, & I shall continue to monitor its progress closely.

[nanoav]

Hi bellgamin,

Thank you for trial of our product.

Your situation with long time of installation process is non-typical. Could you help us more?
Please send to us logs. Use "Start->All programs->NANO AntiVirus->Send logs to the support service". Then follow the instructions of "NANO Report" utility. If you can't send logs with our utility, save them and send the file to support@nanoav.ru. Please specify the subject as something like this: "Logs from bellgamin, wilderssecurity". Also we need an information about your PC (OS, hardware, free space on the system disk).

As for the installation log, we needn't it now as the usual logs are more informative. But I would like anyway to explain how to catch it. Just click in the log field with right mouse button, the small context menu appears, then select there the item "Copy data to the clipboard". Or just use ctrl+a->ctrl+c.

As for the error of the license getting, the most often reason is you used other AVs before or now and some of those have changed your registry (winsocks). We know about this problem and plan to realize enhanced mechanism. At the present time we send personal license file to any registered user via e-mail on demand. I can send the personal license file to you to the e-mail address you have specified in your profile.

Thank you again for feedback and your aid.

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "Your situation with long time of installation process is non-typical. Could you help us more?
Please send to us logs. Use "Start->All programs->NANO AntiVirus->Send logs to the support service". Then follow the instructions of "NANO Report" utility.

. . . Also we need an information about your PC (OS, hardware, free space on the system disk)." }-I sent what you requested.

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "I sent what you requested." }-Hello, we have received your logs and have sent to you the detailed answer. Mainly the problem was caused most probably by the software combination on your computer.
Thank you for your cooperation:)

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "Hello, we have received your logs and have sent to you the detailed answer. Mainly the problem was caused most probably by the software combination on your computer.
Thank you for your cooperation:)" }-Thanks to Nano support for the informative email reply.

Up until today I have always installed Nano using Shadow Defender (it's feasible because Nano requires no re-start during installation). In every case Nano installed verrrry slowly.

Curiosity finally got the better of me so, today, I made an image & installed Nano into my *real computer* (not Shadow Defender). It installed quite normally. Not slow at all. Ergo, my guess is that Nano doesn't like Shadow Defender (&/or Shadow Defender doesn't like Nano).

I have now restored my computer to pre-Nano state, but I am increasingly impressed by Nano's prospects. However I still say they need to consider using in-the-cloud technology in order to stay current with the competition. I made this comment in an earlier post but the Nano rep has thus far chosen to ignore it. :dry:

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "Thanks to Nano support for the informative email reply.

Сuriosity finally got the better of me so, today, I made an image & installed Nano into my *real computer* (not Shadow Defender). It installed quite normally. Not slow at all. Ergo, my guess is that Nano doesn't like Shadow Defender (&/or Shadow Defender doesn't like Nano)." }-Thank you again for your cooperation. That sort of messages helps us to meet user's requirements. We will test the Shadow Defender with NANO AntiVirus as soon as possible and will advise about the result.

-{ Quote: "However I still say they need to consider using in-the-cloud technology in order to stay current with the competition. I made this comment in an earlier post but the Nano rep has thus far chosen to ignore it. :dry:" }-No, we didn't ignore it, but as we don't use cloud technologies we reply nothing:) . Nevertheless we also think that this kind of technologies is very promising.

[nanoav]

Hi all,
The update of NANO AntiVirus (0.14.0.5 Beta) (http://www.nanoav.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=50&lang=ru) has been placed on the site.

New in this version:

1. Fixed errors of the NANO Report utility.
2. The time of the scanning of some msi-files is decreased considerably.
3. The stability of NANO AntiVirus operation is improved.
4. Fixed errors of infected files processing.
5. Fixed a number of slight errors.

[Cloud]

When is the final release expected? Any new features being added in the next upcoming [major] releases?

Another popular question is: will Nano Antivirus remain free? If so, I think a paid version of the product should be made to help support development costs and so on. So there would be two products: Nano Antivirus and Nano Internet Security. NIS has additional features such as a firewall, antispam, phishing filter and identity protection?

Other idea(s): The popup notification has a hand on the upper-left corner, which IMO could be edited into something else. Instead of a hand, it can be an X (designed like the one in Immunet or Norton) and the Nano icon could turn red as well (like in MSE). The popup notification could also be a little smaller in size too. Resource usage could also be improved so it can be more friendly for netbook users like me.

[Watasha]

-{ Quote: "

Another popular question is: will Nano Antivirus remain free? If so, I think a paid version of the product should be made to help support development costs and so on." }-

I don't really know why but I've been keeping an eye on this company since their inception. There has to be a lot of improvement before the product is ready to be marketed as a paid product. In my opinion the signature based AV is rapidly becoming obsolete. That being said I wish Nano all the best & hope they can continue to improve the product & lower resource usage.;)

[nanoav]

WinDefend, Watasha, thank you for trial of NANO AntiVirus.

As for the final release, we don't specify a date yet. Also we haven't an public information about our commercial plans.

We plan to add web-traffic scanner, plugin for outlook express and perhaps something else. Also we enlarge our virus base, improve a performance, detect, resource usage and so on.

WinDefend, thank you for your suggestions, we will discuss it.

Watasha, thank you for the warm words :).

[Cloud]

Hey guys, ;)


An update of NANO AntiVirus (0.14.0.6 Beta) (http://nanoav.ru/index.php?option=com_content%3B&view=article%3B%3B&id=570%3A-nano-01406-beta&catid=27%3A2009-04-06-05-26-49&Itemid=69&lang=en) has been placed on their site.

New in this version:

• Improved scanning of PDF-files.
• Fixed the error which occasionally doesn't permit to switch on The System Guard.
• Fixed the error which caused BSOD in systems with Comodo Backup installed.
• The stability of NANO AntiVirus operation is improved and a number of slight errors was fixed.

[nanoav]

The OPSWAT Certification (ex-OESIS OK) has been awarded to NANO AntiVirus in the Antivirus category. The OPSWAT Certification Program is designed to enable partnerships between independent software vendors and leading technology solutions. OPSWAT Certified products are verified interoperable with solutions that employ the OESIS Framework, allowing applications to be easily integrated on millions of endpoints.

During testing process NANO AntiVirus must be correctly installed on all supported operating systems and language combinations reflected in the application’s documentation. Then our product must pass Rogue Application Test. NANO AntiVirus installer and binaries are scanned against lists of known rogue applications by multiple anti-malware engines. The rule is that no any applications with any file reported as “suspicious”, “threat” or other nomenclature indicative of rogue applications will be granted certification. Also was checked is OESIS Framework supports the function calls listed.

[Cloud]

Is the official stable release planned to be released before summer?

[Malware fighter]

Guys you can chit chat, but search Youtube for nano antivirus review by languy or somebody ( sorry I did it 3 months ago) - this AV is complete horse.... cake....:)

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "... this AV is complete horse.... cake....:)" }-So are languy's half-baked, incompetent, so-called reviews.:shifty:

[Brocke]

-{ Quote: "So are languy's half-baked, incompetent, so-called reviews.:shifty:" }-


HAHA my god thats some funny stuff.... Thanks for the laugh;D

[Malware fighter]

-{ Quote: "So are languy's half-baked, incompetent, so-called reviews.:shifty:" }-

I wouldn't argue cause I dont know him as well as you do :)
On the other hand I wouldn't refer him if I have positive review done by respectable organization. If you know one and can provide link, I will take my words back. Otherwise I don't like option to test it myself and get my pc toasted :).

[gery]

Bellgamin that response was very very funny and correct . My guess is that when people believe such postings in youtube or elsewhere to be the ultimate truth it makes them HC - the reviews i mean

[Malware fighter]

-{ Quote: "Bellgamin that response was very very funny and correct . My guess is that when people believe such postings in youtube or elsewhere to be the ultimate truth it makes them HC - the reviews i mean" }-

How this should be read - like insult for me ?

[gery]

-{ Quote: "How this should be read - like insult for me ?" }-
no no no no no no no no beg your pardon. i am talking about the reviews
i am sorry

[Malware fighter]

I'm glad I missunderstood. Would be nice to have some legitimate review on this one av.

[sg09]

I rather respect Nano's intension to keep the AV in beta testing as long as possible. Atleast we can say that in the stable build it will not be as nearly as crappy as ZenOK is (which had no public beta build).

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "Is the official stable release planned to be released before summer?" }-No, we just plan to release 0.16.0.0 version to summer (in May I hope). There will be many changes and some new functionality in that new version.

[Mr.PC]

-{ Quote: "The OPSWAT Certification (ex-OESIS OK) has been awarded to NANO AntiVirus in the Antivirus category.
The OPSWAT Certification Program is designed to enable partnerships between independent software vendors and leading technology solutions. OPSWAT Certified products are verified interoperable with solutions that employ the OESIS Framework, allowing applications to be easily integrated on millions of endpoints.
During testing process NANO AntiVirus must be correctly installed on all supported operating systems and language combinations reflected in the application’s documentation. Then our product must pass Rogue Application Test.
NANO AntiVirus installer and binaries are scanned against lists of known rogue applications by multiple anti-malware engines.
The rule is that no any applications with any file reported as “suspicious”, “threat” or other nomenclature indicative of rogue applications will be granted certification.
Also was checked is OESIS Framework supports the function calls listed." }-
O.K. NANO AV is Not a Rogue (http://www.nanoav.ru/index.php?option=com_content%3B&view=article%3B%3B&id=572%3Anano-opswat&catid=27%3A2009-04-06-05-26-49&Itemid=69&lang=en).
-BUT-
How effective is NANO AV against Competition?

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "How effective is NANO AV against Competition?" }-Nano is an early beta version of a brand new Antivirus app. As such, I would assume that their main concentration is on fundamentals such as: (1) getting proper functioning of the GUI & the scanner, (2) identifying & dealing with any conflicts between Nano & other popular programs, (3) getting Nano to function well with Win7 AS WELL AS legacy Windows systems, (4) getting Nano to be as light as possible in terms of system resources, surfing speed, etc, (5) attaining high degree of self-protection -- & so forth.

Working on signatures & heuristics must also be done, of course, but the programmatic factors, such as those listed above, would usually take higher priority. Experienced beta testers are generally aware of these facts. Those who want mature/tested protection might want to avoid betas & instead use existing AVs -- rather than expecting early betas to function at RC levels with respect to detection, cleaning, etc.

[Mr.PC]

-{ Quote: "Nano is an early beta version of a brand new Antivirus app." }-
I've noticed it...;D

[nanoav]

We are glad to present to the most inquisitive users the result of the hard work of our team during last months. It is the technical preview of the long-awaited 0.16 version of NANO AntiVirus. We are announcing this preview as the 0.15 version.

The new version is a considerably revised and supplemented product. Particularly the core of program was changed almost completely, the new functionality was added and the current features were optimized.

New in the 0.15 version

* Added a scanner of web-traffic.
* Considerably changed the update mechanism.
* Changed the procedure of installation and uninstallation.
* Optimised scanning of some types of files (e.g. autorun.inf and archive files).
* Improved the System Guard operation.
* Optimized the ram usage by GUI.
* Optimized and stabilized the product in whole.

Attention! This version is unappropriated for publication on third-party resources as an official version! It is laid open to public inspection only!

[sg09]

-{ Quote: "We are glad to present to the most inquisitive users the result of the hard work of our team during last months. It is the technical preview of the long-awaited 0.16 version of NANO AntiVirus. We are announcing this preview as the 0.15 version.

The new version is a considerably revised and supplemented product. Particularly the core of program was changed almost completely, the new functionality was added and the current features were optimized.

New in the 0.15 version

* Added a scanner of web-traffic.
* Considerably changed the update mechanism.
* Changed the procedure of installation and uninstallation.
* Optimised scanning of some types of files (e.g. autorun.inf and archive files).
* Improved the System Guard operation.
* Optimized the ram usage by GUI.
* Optimized and stabilized the product in whole.

Attention! This version is unappropriated for publication on third-party resources as an official version! It is laid open to public inspection only!" }-
:thumb::thumb::thumb:

[tolis14]

I gave it a spin and detection seems to be quite good. It also feels very light. Looks like they are moving to the right direction...

[sg09]

-{ Quote: "I gave it a spin and detection seems to be quite good. It also feels very light. Looks like they are moving to the right direction..." }-
Nice to hear that....;):thumb:

[tolis14]

Unfortunately, it deleted explorer.exe in my virtual machine a a virus, rendering it unusable. :(

[sg09]

-{ Quote: "Unfortunately, it deleted explorer.exe in my virtual machine a a virus, rendering it unusable. :(" }-
lol :D

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "Unfortunately, it deleted explorer.exe in my virtual machine a a virus, rendering it unusable. :(" }-Thank you for testing of this version. Can you provide us with any info, for example the name of threat (i mean which threat name was assigned to explorer.exe) or if it possible to send us logs?
I would like to remind again that this version is something like "alfa" of a completely new version, so there are bugs we need to fix.
Thank you again for your help:)

[sg09]

@nanoav: When Nano Antivirus become stable will it remain free?

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "@nanoav: When Nano Antivirus become stable will it remain free?" }-We haven't the public information concerning commercial plans. Therewith we hope we can provide our users with free version.

[sg09]

-{ Quote: "We haven't the public information concerning commercial plans. Therewith we hope we can provide our users with free version." }-
:thumb: :thumb:

[Zero3K]

I hope that someone makes another video review of it since the last one was from a year or so ago.

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "I hope that someone makes another video review of it since the last one was from a year or so ago." }-I hope we will be able to make a new video after release of the current alfa-version.

[Zero3K]

-{ Quote: "I hope we will be able to make a new video after release of the current alfa-version." }-

Ok. I'll check it out when its available.

[quanzi_1507]

I like how this program makes a lot of improvements over time even it's build only advances slowly. This way when the final build (1.x) is released it will be as stable as possible.

Unlike some other AVs out there that put a whole new build every year, but only provide minor changes and new gui (Avira even skipped a whole version, going straight from 10.x to 12.x).

[sg09]

I tried this AV again few days back and found few problems that were long addressed. Like RAM usage. Long installation time, Buggy Updater progress bar.

[nikanthpromod]

Tried Nanao AV again8)

installtaion file size 103MB
installation was quicK.
Didnt start itself.. i started manually from "Start"
First update stuck at 99% (33mb/20mins in a 2Mbps connection) and took 30 minutes for remaining 1 %..
High ram Usage 140-150MB(nanosvc.exe), nearly 362 mb(nanoav.exe) while updating..100% CPU
splash screen cannot be disabled...

I tested 140 malwares against Nano .. it detected 111 files ..
failed to detect 29 files..
then i executed these 29 files... Nano AV detected the files downloaded by these but failed to detect these 29..

It detected Autorun eater as malware which is a FP..

Webguard didnt do anything.. it didnt block malicious web pages...

Testing Evironment:
Windows xp
Intel celeron 1GHz 512MB RAM..

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "I tried this AV again few days back and found few problems that were long addressed. Like RAM usage. Long installation time, Buggy Updater progress bar." }-Could you specify the version of NANO AntiVirus?

[sg09]

-{ Quote: "Could you specify the version of NANO AntiVirus?" }-
I couldn't remember the exact number. It was downloaded from the website about 15days ago.:isay:

[nanoav]

nikanthpromod, could I ask to send logs to us? Please use "Start->All programs->NANO AntiVirus->Send logs to support".
As well please send to us those 29 files to virus@nanoav.ru (please archive them with the pass '123').
Thank you in advance.
We checked Autorun eater, really it looks as FP, guess we will fix it in one of nearest base issue.
As for webguard, it don't block any malicious sites yet, at this stage it is only web scanner, it check files which are downloaded from the net. To be sure it works, please try to download the standard eicar test file (http://www.eicar.org/download/eicar.com).

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "I couldn't remember the exact number. It was downloaded from the website about 15days ago.:isay:" }-We have two version there, the stable current version 0.14.0.9 and alfa version v.0.15 for testing objectives (it is a technical preview of 0.16 version). Could you see on your site, which link do you use, 0.14.0.9. (http://www.nanoav.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=50&lang=en) or 0.15 (http://www.nanoav.ru/install/alfa/nanoav.0.15.alpha.setup.exe)? tia.

[sg09]

-{ Quote: "We have two version there, the stable current version 0.14.0.9 and alfa version v.0.15 for testing objectives (it is a technical preview of 0.16 version). Could you see on your site, which link do you use, 0.14.0.9. (http://www.nanoav.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=50&lang=en) or 0.15 (http://www.nanoav.ru/install/alfa/nanoav.0.15.alpha.setup.exe)? tia." }-
I am sure that I downloaded the beta...:)

[sg09]

Actually I was installing this on a real system not for testing otherwise I would have waited a bit and reported the bug. For the same reason I didn't choose the alpha...

[Zero3K]

-{ Quote: "Actually I was installing this on a real system not for testing otherwise I would have waited a bit and reported the bug. For the same reason I didn't choose the alpha..." }-

The alpha still has high RAM usage and a buggy update bar (It had 283% as its percentage of update completed and then went to 100% a couple of seconds later). I'm not sure about the long installation time since I have a SSD as my way of storing the OS, etc.

[nanoav]

-{ Quote: "I am sure that I downloaded the beta...:)" }-
It is a bit strange as we know about that problem (a buggy update bar) only in the current alfa, not beta. At the moment it was fixed, so next update of alfa (we hope it will be getting a new beta) has to work correctly.

[nikanthpromod]

hi @nanoav
will send the files ASAP..:)

[Zero3K]

Actually, I think you can send them via NANO AV's quarantine function.

[nanoav]

Thank you, nikanthpromod.
Zero3K, the best way as I said before -{ Quote: "As well please send to us those 29 files to virus@nanoav.ru (please archive them with the pass '123')." }- so we can know who has sent those files.

[Zero3K]

-{ Quote: "Thank you, nikanthpromod.
Zero3K, the best way as I said before so we can know who has sent those files." }-

Ok. That makes sense.

[nikanthpromod]

all sent8)

[nikanthpromod]

-{ Quote: "Delivery to the following recipient has been delayed:

virus@nanoav.ru

Message will be retried for 1 more day(s)

Technical details of temporary failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 451 451 Temporary local problem - please try later (state 18 )." }-

message delayed???

[Zero3K]

A new version of it is out now. Its now at v0.15.158.41553 and is being deployed as a normal update via its GUI.

[narenbisht]

I tested this & at this stage is not good. Kind of worthless. I tested both stable & alpha but both not good.

Thanx
Naren

[Zero3K]

Can you please explain in detail so that they can make it better?

[narenbisht]

What I meant was the detection is pretty low of zeroday malware. Hope once released officially & out of beta it is better.

Thanx
Naren

[Zero3K]

Its now at v0.16.0.41590 (which is a beta version). You can download it at http://www.nanoav.ru/install/nanoav.setup.0.16.0.41590.exe.

[nanoav]

We are glad to present a further result of the cooperation between NANO AntiVirus team and OPSWAT Inc., the world leader in software management SDKs, interoperability certifications etc.

After a comprehensive speed, compatibility, stability etc. testing of the NANO AntiVirus engine it was integrated successfully to online scanner Metascan Online (http://www.metascan-online.com/). The Metascan Online service is intended to check suspicious files up to 40 Mb with 31 authoritative antivirus decisions free of charge without a registration.

Also keep in mind that you can use our own online scanner (http://www.nanoav.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23304&Itemid=108&lang=en) free of charge without a registration for checking of suspicious files.

[sg09]

Congratulations!
But when will it come out of beta

[iScream]

First impression is: why isn't the English page grammatically correct?
To me it seems you know good English.

Haven't tried Nano though.

[manar58]

The new version of NANO AntiVirus 0.18.0.43886 Beta
http://www.nanoav.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4&Itemid=78&lang=en;D