Iobit 360 security 1.3.0 just released

[Perman]

Hi,
Is it MORAL to use this app again ?

Like to hear what the pro from Malwarebytes antimalware would say.???

I have a free key, and HATE to waste it.

[Triple Helix]

Hey do as you wish but they are thieves do you want to use a product from a thief? >:(

And this is from me, I would never recommend IObit products for that reason!!!

TH

[EliteKiller]

-{ Quote: "Hey do as you wish but they are thieves do you want to use a product from a thief? >:(

And this is from me, I would never recommend IObit products for that reason!!!

TH" }-
I've never used their products and after their recent antics I never will. :thumbd:

However I would be curious on detection rates of this new version compared to the previous version.

[Sportscubs1272]

IObit 360 always flagged Sandboxie as malicious so I took it off my machine. I haven't found any glowing reviews about this program before or after this accusation.

[clocks]

It would be a tougher decision if their product was good, but the real time never worked, and the on-demand sucks since removing the MBAM sigs.

[wtsinnc]

I too have a free 1 year license but I won't use it.

If they will steal from a competitor, they might steal from me.

[prairie dog]

I will never use any of their products ever again:thumbd: :thumbd:

[Fuzzfas]

Change log from Major Geeks:

-{ Quote: "What's new in v1.30:
- Whole new detection database.
- Improved scan engine.
- Fixed general bugs.

http://majorgeeks.com/IObit_Security_360_d6088.html
" }-

New database ---> no reason to be blocked from US sites anymore, since the part that was "disputed" isn't there anymore.

For similar reasons the page www.iobit.com/avg-com.html doesn't exist anymore.

And gone is our porn too! http://www.iobit.com/naruto-hentai.html

I say nothing more since any thread on the subject i touch gets locked in seconds. ;D

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "I've never used their products and after their recent antics I never will. :thumbd:

However I would be curious on detection rates of this new version compared to the previous version." }-

Ok,i guess i was curious too. They really cleaned up their database this time.

On my "usual" 407 samples testbed:

- Iobit 1.10: 389/407
- Iobit 1.20: 231/407
(posted the results in video in the locked thread).
- Iobit 1.30: 218/407
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/601/73756144.png

So, yes, this is a whole new database.

[overangry]

-{ Quote: "- Iobit 1.10: 389/407
- Iobit 1.20: 231/407
(posted the results in video in the locked thread).
- Iobit 1.30: 218/407
" }-
I wonder why the detection of your samples has dropped so dramatically with their new build???

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "I wonder why the detection of your samples has dropped so dramatically with their new build???" }-

Well, the most dramatic is from 1.10 to 1.20 (from 389 to 231). From 1.20 (which is the first version after the accusation) ist hasdropped only from 231 to 218.

The "big" cleaning happened in the first version after the accusation (1.20). Now, there was a further cleaning and with 1.30 they are back at major geeks.

I could say more, but i don't want to axe this thread too. I had made a prediction in the locked thread about how this would end, i think this is compatible with that prediction.

[Fly]

-{ Quote: "I wonder why the detection of your samples has dropped so dramatically with their new build???" }-

Isn't it obvious ? They have removed the signatures of MBAM and possibly other programs from their database.

[Fuzzfas]

It's not just my sample. Here's a review by PC Mag of November 13 (so this must be v.1.20, the first version with "removed disputed items"):

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2355888,00.asp


I haven't followed Iobit's detection in the past, but several people here have claimed that it was very good to excellent.

In the above PC Mag review, there is suddenly a quite bad review/detection. Of course it may be a coincidence.

EDIT: The version actually in the screenshots, as i just noted, is 1.10, so it's the "high detection" version, before the "new" database. Still interesting:

-{ Quote: "Malwarebytes and IObit detected the same threats, for the most part," }-

-{ Quote: "Its score of 0.5 points matches that of Malwarebytes" }-

[andyman35]

-{ Quote: "Hey do as you wish but they are thieves do you want to use a product from a thief? >:(

And this is from me, I would never recommend IObit products for that reason!!!

TH" }-
Very true point there.I've used both Smartdefrag and Advanced Systemcare for a long time and really like them both,but now it just doesn't feel right so they had to go.

[InfinityAz]

-{ Quote: "Very true point there.I've used both Smartdefrag and Advanced Systemcare for a long time and really like them both,but now it just doesn't feel right so they had to go." }-

Also thought both were good but because of their behavior I no longer trust them. Therefore, I will not use their software and will discourage others from doing so.

[the Tester]

-{ Quote: "Change log from Major Geeks:



New database ---> no reason to be blocked from US sites anymore, since the part that was "disputed" isn't there anymore.

For similar reasons the page www.iobit.com/avg-com.html doesn't exist anymore.

And gone is our porn too! http://www.iobit.com/naruto-hentai.html

I say nothing more since any thread on the subject i touch gets locked in seconds. ;D" }-



I personally view the IObit changes as way too late. Sort of like a bank robber returning the stolen loot. They already fell on the proverbial sword. :thumbd:

[jmonge]

yes :thumbd: :thumbd:

[JohnnyDollar]

Unfortunately there are probably millions of users around the world that have no clue as to what has transpired concerning the alleged stolen database and other questionable business practices from IObit, and are willing to purchase a license:-\. Sad isn't it?:'(

[cet]

I replaced smart defrag with Auslogics diskdefrag on both of my computers.

[overangry]

-{ Quote: "Isn't it obvious ? They have removed the signatures of MBAM and possibly other programs from their database." }-
I was being sarcastic:shifty: you are absolutely right and I couldn't agree more.

[prairie dog]

-{ Quote: "I replaced smart defrag with Auslogics diskdefrag on both of my computers." }-

I did the exact same thing:thumb:

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "I replaced smart defrag with Auslogics diskdefrag on both of my computers." }-

good to hear, always been using Auslogics and it is a great defragger.

[Perman]

Hi,

Surprised to see that the action of Iobit 360 has been proven guilty in the court of public opinion, and even been handed down a death sentence.

perhaps, giving it a bit more time, it may prove itself a leading app again. Mind you, never say "never".

On the another perhaps positive front, Iobit is giving out free keys of "Advanced System Care pro" during US thanksgiving holiday. A product I use , and a good and fair comparison to other top- notched system optimizers.

I am just a side-line onlooker, would not and will never take a side, especially all the facts are yet to be proven in court of law, after all we are the law-abiding citizens( of many different nations) ::)

[Fuzzydice45]

+1 for Auslogics Disk Defragger
I was glad to see they added file optimization, that was the only thing missing from previous versions that stopped me from using it before.

[bellgamin]

-{ Quote: "+1 for Auslogics Disk Defragger" }-Fuzzy, old shoe -- I much prefer Puran.

As for IOB360 --- those who refuse to deal with shady outfits should, of course, switch to Linux. Or a Mac 8)

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "Fuzzy, old shoe -- I much prefer Puran.

As for IOB360 --- those who refuse to deal with shady outfits should, of course, switch to Linux. Or a Mac 8)" }-

ehh... i wuldnt add apple to that category... :dry:

[andyman35]

-{ Quote: "I replaced smart defrag with Auslogics diskdefrag on both of my computers." }-
Yes me too,I hadn't used it for some time but the latest version is very impressive.I'll be recommending it to others from now on.:thumb:

[dcrowe0050]

I was still using the Advanced System Care until the other day I went to update the program and ended up with the blue screen of death twice, so I uninstalled. As far as Iobit Security, it never was anything special and I'll def never use it again after this fiasco.

[nikanthpromod]

just check this ...
Testing done by me.......;D
http://www.mediafire.com/?mrm4ny31zh2

[Franklin]

-{ Quote: "just check this ...
Testing done by me.......;D
http://www.mediafire.com/?mrm4ny31zh2" }-
Get outta here, what a load of utter shite!
-{ Quote: "Out of 150 samples MBAM detected just 6 malwares.
The detected malwares are shown in the figures.
MBAM showing scanned objects as 290 which includes 150 malwares and 140 folders.

Super antispyware detected just 6 malwares.

Iobit Security 360 was able to detect 60 malwares out of 150 .That was ten times more than that of SAS and MBAM..
" }-
My test of 327 of less than two month old up to very new samples with no rogue installers included as I couldn't be bothered going to that archive.:

213955

213954

[thanatos_theos]

Let's not be biased. Franklin, you're a malware hunter at Malwarebytes, no wonder MBAM has an upper hand on your collection.

[Franklin]

-{ Quote: "Let's not be biased. Franklin, you're a malware hunter at Malwarebytes, no wonder MBAM has an upper hand on your collection." }-
Which is completely voluntary and which I enjoy doing.

Funny thing is Iobit detected way more of those samples a while ago. ;)

[thanatos_theos]

And to that I'm very grateful good sir :). Um, I prefer not to comment on your second statement. Let the two companies settle that on the proper channels.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "Which is completely voluntary and which I enjoy doing.

Funny thing is Iobit detected way more of those samples a while ago. ;)" }-

lol that made me laugh, i know IObit had to remove the sigs and all, but by removing them and having such a drastic change in detection in such little time is just BEYOND incriminating... ;D

[Meriadoc]

-{ Quote: "Get outta here, what a load of utter shite!" }-
don't mince words Franklin;D
-{ Quote: "Funny thing is Iobit detected way more of those samples a while ago. ;)" }-
lol

[Brocke]

take it no one really uses this now and the real time still sucks i take it?

[the Tester]

-{ Quote: "take it no one really uses this now and the real time still sucks i take it?" }-

I suspect that a lot of users dumped the app. Maybe there are people using Security 360 but not talking about it? ;)
I'll never use it again.

[Brocke]

-{ Quote: "I suspect that a lot of users dumped the app. Maybe there are people using Security 360 but not talking about it? ;)
I'll never use it again." }-


i dont blame you.

[andyman35]

-{ Quote: "just check this ...
Testing done by me.......;D
http://www.mediafire.com/?mrm4ny31zh2" }-

"Out of 150 samples MBAM detected just 6 malwares.
The detected malwares are shown in the figures.
MBAM showing scanned objects as 290 which includes 150 malwares and 140 folders."

MBAM will never show a high detection when scanning a collection of inert malware this way.If on the other hand you were to execute those 150 samples and then run a scan I'll wager you'd see a very different result.

[nikanthpromod]

-{ Quote: "Get outta here, what a load of utter shite!

My test of 327 of less than two month old up to very new samples with no rogue installers included as I couldn't be bothered going to that archive.:

213955

213954" }-

wow cool results. :D
Because im using MBAM pro for about more than 1 year.
I fount it very useful against rogue softwares and many other malwares such as virut. I like its Ip blocking very much.
In my test i was shocked to see the results.:o

But iobit is not lower than MBAM or any others. Because it provides many features for free including Real time protection.

"Get outta here" you said.
HAHAHAHAHA ........ that was nice joke.:wacko:

[icr]

-{ Quote: "I suspect that a lot of users dumped the app. Maybe there are people using Security 360 but not talking about it? ;)
I'll never use it again." }-

Same here too got 1 year license of IOBit pro but will never use it.

-{ Quote: "I fount it very useful against rogue softwares" }-

Yeah thats right.:thumb:
Even many AVs are not able to remove rogues as effectively as MBAM.

[Triple Helix]

IOBit Theft Conclusion

http://malwarebytes.besttechie.net/2009/12/09/iobit-theft-conclusion

TH

[codylucas16]

This dispute ~ Snipped as per TOS (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/faq.php?faq=wilders_tos#faq_wilders_tos_1) ~ . I had purchased a license for IObit Pro two days prior to this ordeal. Malwarebytes ruined a perfectly good application that was better than theirs. Did they steal their "intellectual property"? I don't care. It was a good program that Malwarebytes ruined.

[the Tester]

-{ Quote: "This dispute ~ Snipped as per TOS (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/faq.php?faq=wilders_tos#faq_wilders_tos_1) ~ . I had purchased a license for IObit Pro two days prior to this ordeal. Malwarebytes ruined a perfectly good application that was better than theirs. Did they steal their "intellectual property"? I don't care. It was a good program that Malwarebytes ruined." }-

Malware Bites didn't ruin anything!
IObit is responsible for their own actions. If it was better than Malware Bites, why does it's detection rate suck so bad after they removed Malware Bites detections database?

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "This dispute ~ Snipped as per TOS (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/faq.php?faq=wilders_tos#faq_wilders_tos_1) ~ . I had purchased a license for IObit Pro two days prior to this ordeal. Malwarebytes ruined a perfectly good application that was better than theirs. Did they steal their "intellectual property"? I don't care. It was a good program that Malwarebytes ruined." }-

99% of the members disagree with you and that's what matters. I never did or will ever use Iobit products!

TH

[nikanthpromod]

I think this thread has become A( mbam) vs B(iobit):wacko:
No doubt this will be closed .:blink:

Both are great products. Just remember no product can detect 100% malwares.
If any 1 needs a free product with realtime protection, ill definitely recommend Iobit. But for a paid product Its MBAM :thumb: 8)

[Fly]

-{ Quote: "This dispute ~ Snipped as per TOS (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/faq.php?faq=wilders_tos#faq_wilders_tos_1) ~ . I had purchased a license for IObit Pro two days prior to this ordeal. Malwarebytes ruined a perfectly good application that was better than theirs. Did they steal their "intellectual property"? I don't care. It was a good program that Malwarebytes ruined." }-

Maybe you should demand a refund ?

From IObit, not MBAM. :P

[nosirrah]

-{ Quote: "starting drama? so ur perfectly fine with someone else stealing ur work and ud just sit back right?" }-

Apparently they are also way more OK with threatening physical violence than they are with intellectual property theft . It kind of reminds me of the "death to all fascists" bumper sticker I saw a while back but of course that guy was intentionally being funny .

On a serious note I don't think any reasonable person would say we started this and and far as we are concerned it is over . There is nothing we can do about the haters and we are OK with this .

Anyone can grab samples , anyone can track down any version of IOBit and anyone can draw their own conclusions . If that is not enough for them then so be it .

[nikanthpromod]

-{ Quote: "I no longer use malwarebytes.
i have removed it from my PC along with everyone else's PC who i know.
" }-

Good move:thumb:
But u will soon install it again to remove malwares from ur pc. Thats sure8)

[BlueZannetti]

Folks,

Let's stay on-topic and civil.

A number of posts on an off-topic excursion have been removed.

Blue