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mack_guy911
November 13th, 2009, 12:01 PM
openSUSE 11.2 look great so far smooth running :)
http://www.h-online.com/open/features/openSUSE-11-2-on-the-test-bench-859182.html
Screenshots:
http://www.seoexpertconsultants.com/index.php?linux&release=openSUSE%2011.2
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wilbertnl
November 13th, 2009, 12:38 PM
-{ Quote: "A whole series of changes awaits users in openSUSE 11.2, including Ext4 as the default file system, boot loader Grub2 and a big move towards the KDE 4 desktop." }- That is interesting, I installed openSUSE from KDE-live and I got grub legacy installed (not that I regret that!).
Mrkvonic
November 13th, 2009, 01:18 PM
Legacy here too.
Mrk
andb
November 13th, 2009, 01:47 PM
It don't include grub2, ubuntu is the only distro that does. And it seems it will be the only one for at least 6months more
Sputnik
November 14th, 2009, 06:47 AM
Some must-haves for every openSUSE user:
Multimedia codecs (http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/11.2)
Subpixel hinting (http://opensuse-community.org/SubpixelHinting)
nVidia drivers (http://en.opensuse.org/NVIDIA)
ATI drivers (http://en.opensuse.org/ATI)
That's it for now, more about openSUSE 11.2 to come.
mrhero
November 14th, 2009, 02:29 PM
Even with subpixelhinting I can't make fonts look good like Ubuntu. I think this is a big problem for Opensuse, even 11.1 was bad at font looking.
Sputnik
November 14th, 2009, 02:42 PM
@mrhero
Ubuntu's default fonts indeed look good. Fonts in openSUSE will look different but more alike Windows' (Ubuntu's fonts are quite bold and more Mac like). Did you already change your KDE/GNOME fonts to DeJaVu?
wilbertnl
November 14th, 2009, 03:43 PM
-{ Quote: "Even with subpixelhinting I can't make fonts look good like Ubuntu. I think this is a big problem for Opensuse, even 11.1 was bad at font looking." }- Perhaps it's a personal preference, I'm quite pleased with the font rendering. I like it bold.
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Sputnik
November 14th, 2009, 03:51 PM
@wilbertnl
Using 'slight' hinting there I assume?
wilbertnl
November 14th, 2009, 04:21 PM
-{ Quote: "Using 'slight' hinting there I assume?" }-
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andb
November 15th, 2009, 05:25 AM
For me font rendering is a big issue when it comes to linux, i think ubuntu has the best by far, almost all others gives you a headache because you straining your eyes.
However i found that openSUSE is one that i could live with.
wilbertnl
November 16th, 2009, 09:47 AM
-{ Quote: "For me font rendering is a big issue when it comes to linux, i think ubuntu has the best by far, almost all others gives you a headache because you straining your eyes. " }- I installed kubuntu 9.10 and I agree that font rendering is gorgeous. I wonder how much of that is the result of the content of /etc/fonts/*?
Would you get the same quality when you copy those files to OpenSUSE, for example?
On my systems, OpenSUSE and Mandriva offer more stable network connections than Ubuntu. They rely on ifconfig. Ubuntu had /etc/network/interfaces, but that seems to conflict with the desktop network managers.
Sputnik
November 16th, 2009, 02:51 PM
Here's a screenshot how my fonts look on openSUSE 11.2 within GNOME (wanted to test something out in GNOME today). Later I'll post the same from my default KDE.
Ps. The fonts are very XP like, quite crispy. Not like Vista/7 witch I personally don't like.
Sputnik
November 16th, 2009, 03:27 PM
And like promised my beloved KDE. In this screenshot DeJaVu Sans is used as default font in KDE and Liberation as default webfont in Firefox.
Mrkvonic
November 16th, 2009, 03:38 PM
I recommend droid sans fonts ... they are lovely, although they work better in Gnome. Also probably the best fonts, definitely bitstream vera sans mono, in my opinion.
Mrk
Sputnik
November 16th, 2009, 03:43 PM
@Mrkvonic
I didn't knew about the Droid fonts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droid_%28font%29), however it seems to be a commercial font? The DeJaVu fonts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DejaVu_fonts) are basicly an extented version of Bitstream's Vera, but you say to use Mono Sans instead of Sans right?
wilbertnl
November 16th, 2009, 03:53 PM
Kubuntu 9.10 full hinting:
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Kubuntu 9.10 slight hinting:
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Sputnik
November 16th, 2009, 03:57 PM
@wilbertnl
Full hinting in Kubuntu gives almost the same result like Mandriva did, bad in my opinion. Slight hinting in Kubuntu looks very Mac like and seems pretty. My openSUSE screenshots were taken using full hinting btw.
wilbertnl
November 16th, 2009, 05:08 PM
Kubuntu 9.10, DejaVu Sans Mono 11 in Konsole,
DejaVu Sans 9 in Menu:
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Sputnik
November 16th, 2009, 06:19 PM
@wilbertnl
Those are some crispy fonts you've got there. On your previous Kubuntu screenshots you didn't use DeJaVu yet didn't you?
Maybe we should start a separate threat dedicated to fonts and their configuration.
wilbertnl
November 17th, 2009, 12:00 AM
-{ Quote: "Those are some crispy fonts you've got there. On your previous Kubuntu screenshots you didn't use DeJaVu yet didn't you? " }- Sputnik,
You are correct, ever since Redhat released their liberation fonts (https://www.redhat.com/promo/fonts/) I installed them and used them as system font.
I thought that without the bytecode interpreter enabled they look better than Bitstream Vera.
With Ubuntu 9.10 the Dejavu font family is system default, perhaps not a bad idea?
Yeah, I agree with a distro independent fonts discussion. :thumb:
andb
November 17th, 2009, 03:05 AM
Droid feels to compact for big screens and dejavu is to big for my taste, but liberation is just a perfect fit with slight hinting on (k)ubuntu and on openSUSE with subpixel patch.
Mandriva has always had just awful font rendering, but seeing screenshots seems mandriva has gotten better. I know on archlinux you can install ubuntu's font rendering and if my memory don't serve me wrong you can on Fedora too.
mack_guy911
November 18th, 2009, 02:37 PM
i like fedora and ubuntu fonts very much can anytell me how to add them in suse 11.2 and make it default
thanks for replay
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