Vipre Premium 4.0 coming soon

[vijayind]

As per sunbelt news, VIPRE 4.0 is poised for beta release soon. Now Vipre will support x64 including Win7 and XP x64.
Other info below:
-{ Quote: "Hot News on VIPRE 4.0 and the 64 Bit Firewall
This week we had the opportunity to sit down with Curt Larson, the Sunbelt Software VIPRE/CounterSpy Product Manager and he gave us some expanded insight into the release of the next version 4 of VIPRE and what is happening with our 64 bit Sunbelt Personal Firewall.

SSN: We have a huge demand for VIPRE to have a built-in firewall, what's the inside story on this?

CL: The product development team is hard at work and coming down to the finish line on VIPRE 4.0. While it's easy to say, "VIPRE 4.0 will have a firewall," what does that mean?

Many competitive products have basic firewall functionality, and they are "dumbed down" for the home user. Many stand-alone firewalls are designed for the complete computer geek, with seemingly more knobs and switches than the space shuttle.

The question is: how do you take a firewall, which by its very nature is a product designed to provide control and functionality over computer functions at a deep level, and make it easy to use for the novice, while at the same time provide the full range of functions and control that an advanced user craves? Remember, it still must be simple to operate.

This was the design challenges faced by the VIPRE development team and I am happy to say our dev team has met this challenge. VIPRE 4.0 is on the home stretch, and will be out for beta very shortly. While based on the existing Sunbelt Personal Firewall v4.6, the code is optimized for efficient operation on all operating systems.

SSN: Sounds great, how will it work?

CL: VIPRE with Firewall, named VIPRE Premium, will be able to block unwanted intrusions before they get to your hard drive or memory. If a Trojan or bot gets on your box and tries to call out, the new Web Filtering will block the attempt to "phone home." Additionally, browsing to malicious sites will be prevented, using our proprietary 'Threat Track' data, which is also used by leading companies and US agencies.

Here are some more of the exciting new features. Bad advertisements will be blocked. Phishing-attempts to get you to browse to malicious websites with catchy emails-will be blocked. Attempts to inject code into existing programs will be blocked. If you use a USB drive - we will automatically scan your USB drive as soon as it's inserted. All of the above, and more under the hood, are being added to VIPRE.

SSN: What is the timeline, honestly I cannot wait to check it out myself.

CL: We're on track to release our beta version in November. As soon as we get VIPRE wrapped up, we're going to finish version 5 of Sunbelt Personal Firewall. The SPF firewall engine and drivers are already done and going through testing in VIPRE Premium, right now-and they're full 64-bit.

SSN: I know that our customers are chomping at the bit for this one. I get a ton of emails after each issue of SSN asking WHERE IS IT.

CL: It's taking us just a little bit longer than we expected, which as we know is not uncommon in the software business. However, we are working night and day to get product releases out faster and better than the competition. Ship date for SPF 5 is early in 2010 and that's the official answer. Realistically, expect a beta a month or two after we release VIPRE 4.0, and the full release a month or two after that.

SSN: If I run VIPRE now, will there be an upgrade to VIPRE Premium that I can buy?

CL: Yes, you can upgrade from VIPRE to VIPRE Premium, and pricing will be -very- reasonable!

" }-

Source:
http://www.sunbeltsecuritynews.com/?id=35

[Blackcat]

How about spending time on preparing Vipre for testing on some reputable sites!

Extra features in version 4 look fine but again no sign of testing its protection abilities.

[acr1965]

-{ Quote: "As per sunbelt news, VIPRE 4.0 is poised for beta release soon. Now Vipre will support x64 including Win7 and XP x64.
Other info below:


Source:
http://www.sunbeltsecuritynews.com/?id=35" }-
Pretty cheesy to make some ad look like an actual interview.

[dawgg]

-{ Quote: "Pretty cheesy" }-
Exactly what I was thinking!

[vijayind]

-{ Quote: "Pretty cheesy to make some ad look like an actual interview." }-
I agree. But hey, don't shoot the messenger ... :)

[TheIgster]

-{ Quote: "How about spending time on preparing Vipre for testing on some reputable sites!

Extra features in version 4 look fine but again no sign of testing its protection abilities." }-

I have contacted Sunbelt about this and apparently it is a long process that they have initiated, but you can't just call up AV Comparatives and get it done overnight.

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "I have contacted Sunbelt about this and apparently it is a long process that they have initiated, but you can't just call up AV Comparatives and get it done overnight." }-

Kind of funny it seems that easy for company's that don't want to be tested to just opt out overnight.

Don't mean to come off rude but every time we here the word soon or next test that test comes and goes, All we are left with is we weren't quite ready yet. Just seems amusing.

[TheIgster]

-{ Quote: "Kind of funny it seems that easy for company's that don't want to be tested to just opt out overnight.

Don't mean to come off rude but every time we here the word soon or next test that test comes and goes, All we are left with is we weren't quite ready yet. Just seems amusing." }-

I suppose, but that's the word I got straight up from them and they have been very good in their contact with me.

Like I said, I have tested it myself (I run a personal security company) and it has performed very well in my tests. No AV is perfect, but it has performed as well as others and much better than some others. I'm not going to state which ones because that always causes issues on this forum.

[Hugger]

-{ Quote: "Pretty cheesy to make some ad look like an actual interview." }-

Agree wholeheartedly.
Also, I don't think the 'interview' should have been posted. Just the link.
It gave me the feeling that Wilders agrees with this approach.
Just my thoughts. Not an accusation.
Hugger

[firzen771]

hoping the tray icon has changed...

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "hoping the tray icon has changed..." }-


For as much as people complain about that icon, You would think they would take 10 min and MSpaint another one. :blink:

[Fly]

-{ Quote: "I have contacted Sunbelt about this and apparently it is a long process that they have initiated, but you can't just call up AV Comparatives and get it done overnight." }-

VIPRE was released a long time ago, and supposedly superior to the established AVs. I don't know the 'launch date'.

IMO, they have had enough time to get it tested by av-comparatives !
Maybe they should have focused their efforts on Counterspy, which was a good product till version 2.5, instead of creating a substandard AV.

The MSE product is free, and tested. So why should anyone bother with VIPRE ?

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "VIPRE was released a long time ago, and supposedly superior to the established AVs. I don't know the 'launch date'.

IMO, they have had enough time to get it tested by av-comparatives !
Maybe they should have focused their efforts on Counterspy, which was a good product till version 2.5, instead of creating a substandard AV.

The MSE product is free, and tested. So why should anyone bother with VIPRE ?" }-


As with any AV there is free and there is paid. People still use both regardless.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "For as much as people complain about that icon, You would think they would take 10 min and MSpaint another one. :blink:" }-

completely agree, probly took them a whole of 5 minutes to make the current one anyways...

and btw can anyone post screenshots of the Vipre 4.0? (including if the tray icon is different) :)

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "completely agree, probly took them a whole of 5 minutes to make the current one anyways...

and btw can anyone post screenshots of the Vipre 4.0? (including if the tray icon is different) :)" }-


I would but Unfortunately Vipre is not a AV I have on any of my computers or test box's. Sorry :-[

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "I would but Unfortunately Vipre is not a AV I have on any of my computers or test box's. Sorry :-[" }-

np, but if anyone else is running it or has any screens of it, plz post. :)

[Securon]

Good Evening ! Good news from Sunbelt, I've currently used Vipre for the better part of 2009 and it's kept my system free from viruses and malware. And i've also supplemented it's protection with Prevx and Malwarebytes as an on demand scanner. I've just recently migrated from Vista Premium too Windows 7 and SPF 4 firewall isn't compatible with Windows 7 so I'm eagerly awaiting the introduction of the firewall and Vipre into Vipre 4 Premium Suite. And as i've stated in previous posts Sunbelt's Sales and Customer Support are in my books the Standard to which all others must aspire to. The only issue I would like to see addressed is Sunbelt and Vipre being assessed by AV Comparatives. Then it would take care of all the pundits and critics who view the products as a B or C Class Provider. Let's keep things in perspective, Sunbelt with Vipre has only been in existence for a little more than a year, so the journey has just begun. Sincerely...Securon

[TheIgster]

-{ Quote: "The MSE product is free, and tested. So why should anyone bother with VIPRE ?" }-

Could you not say the same thing about ANY paid anti virus?

Open Office is free, why would anyone BUY MS Office?

They still do don't they?

It's called preference. I've tried MSE. I prefer Vipre. I prefer to pay for Vipre because I prefer Vipre over any free alternative. In fact, as I stated ealirer, I even bought and paid for Vipre after buying and paying for ESET. It's just a choice I made and all my clients who use Vipre appreciate my choice as well.

[EliteKiller]

-{ Quote: "I have contacted Sunbelt about this and apparently it is a long process that they have initiated, but you can't just call up AV Comparatives and get it done overnight." }-
What about AV-test? IMO Sunbelt has had ample time to have Vipre tested by one of the two leading independent testing organizations. If it's so good why keep it under the radar?

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "What about AV-test? IMO Sunbelt has had ample time to have Vipre tested by one of the two leading independent testing organizations. If it's so good why keep it under the radar?" }-

agreed, hopefully with v4 they will include themselves in at least AV-C, if not then im not even going to consider Vipre anymore...

[TheIgster]

-{ Quote: "What about AV-test? IMO Sunbelt has had ample time to have Vipre tested by one of the two leading independent testing organizations. If it's so good why keep it under the radar?" }-

As I stated earlier, they have started the process and hope to be in the next round of tests. That's all I know.

Regardless, they have tested well at everything I have thrown at it.

Wow, feels like pick on Vipre night around here.

It performs well. I have tested extensively and had no issues. Not sure what else I can say in its defense. I have no problems using it on my machine or any of my clients machines and they have had NO issues.

[antivirus22]

There has been a lot of interesting discussion about Vipre on the web.

But until there is a result from from for example A-V comparatives, its actual detection rate compared to other anti virus products like Avira, Norton etc, in my opinion, it is a "dark horse"

If it has reliable and constant detection rates as good as Avira and Norton etc it will be a viable alternative.

[Fly]

-{ Quote: "As with any AV there is free and there is paid. People still use both regardless." }-

My point was not 'free or paid'. There are indeed many paid and free AVs.

My thinking was: if you're willing to pay for an AV, why would you choose an AV that has not been tested by av-comparatives or something similar ? If you almost never get infected, how would you know how good it is at detection and cleaning ? And if you get infected frequently, the user/admin is to blame, not the AV. :dry:

I would accept an AV that has a 98.5 % detection rate, but not 90 %.

[TheIgster]

-{ Quote: "My thinking was: if you're willing to pay for an AV, why would you choose an AV that has not been tested by av-comparatives or something similar ?" }-

Because you know what you are doing, test all of the anti virus solutions out there and decide on which one you wish to purchase and use?

[Fly]

-{ Quote: "Because you know what you are doing, test all of the anti virus solutions out there and decide on which one you wish to purchase and use?" }-

(let's assume here this is about the home product, not the enterprise version)

How do you know what you are doing ? :)

Have you conducted extensive and methodologically sound testing ?
Maybe you forgot an attack vector or threat gate, or didn't test some malware samples ?

I wouldn't dare to rely on an AV that hasn't been tested by an organisation like av-comparatives.

Of course, you are free to do so.

As far as system drag (CPU, RAM) is concerned: I tested it, and it was slower than both my stripped down version of McAfee and the product I currently use, the Avira security suite. Of course, that was on MY MACHINE, other people may have different experiences.

I think I've said what I wanted to say in this thread, and I'll leave it at that.
I don't want to be argumentative. :)

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "(let's assume here this is about the home product, not the enterprise version)

How do you know what you are doing ? :)

Have you conducted extensive and methodologically sound testing ?
Maybe you forgot an attack vector or threat gate, or didn't test some malware samples ?

I wouldn't dare to rely on an AV that hasn't been tested by an organisation like av-comparatives.

Of course, you are free to do so.

As far as system drag (CPU, RAM) is concerned: I tested it, and it was slower than both my stripped down version of McAfee and the product I currently use, the Avira security suite. Of course, that was on MY MACHINE, other people may have different experiences.

I think I've said what I wanted to say in this thread, and I'll leave it at that.
I don't want to be argumentative. :)" }-

Vipre was light for me, but i wuldnt consider it above and beyond in system resource usage compared to several other products i use that dont advertise it and their KEY selling point, 1 thing i will give it, it is a very lean and straight to the point AV without any bloat. so thats very good.

[TheIgster]

-{ Quote: "How do you know what you are doing ? :)
" }-

Well, you have no idea who I am or what I do for a living so let's just say, I know what I'm doing and leave it at that.

[337]

Well in the "for what its worth" category, I use Vipre on my machines and like it very much! Runs well even on my netbook... As for testing, well it will come in time. Just be patient.
:thumb:

[firzen771]

still no one posting any screenshots, anyone have any of this new v4?

[Chubb]

-{ Quote: "still no one posting any screenshots, anyone have any of this new v4?" }-

Only Enterprise 4.0 is currently in beta. Premium 4.0 beta has never started.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "Only Enterprise 4.0 is currently in beta. Premium 4.0 beta has never started." }-
o i see, thats unfortunate...

[Biscuit]

I still hope that Vipre will get it's act together. We need a good LIGHT anti-virus that works well with other security products. I thought that was what Vipre is supposed to be, but maybe not. I tested it a few months back & the install & initial update takes too long, the system tray icon looks like my mum made it & the GUI hides all the important options away at the top.

There's still some requirement for a regular AV these days, but it needs to be light on resources & work well with other security. Vipre ticks the 2nd box, but not the first. I'd really like Vipre to be good, really I would.

My mum can knit a new icon if required.

[vijayind]

-{ Quote: "
My mum can knit a new icon if required." }-
LoL :D

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "I still hope that Vipre will get it's act together. We need a good LIGHT anti-virus that works well with other security products. I thought that was what Vipre is supposed to be, but maybe not. I tested it a few months back & the install & initial update takes too long, the system tray icon looks like my mum made it & the GUI hides all the important options away at the top.

There's still some requirement for a regular AV these days, but it needs to be light on resources & work well with other security. Vipre ticks the 2nd box, but not the first. I'd really like Vipre to be good, really I would.

My mum can knit a new icon if required." }-

i have to agree.

[Miyagi]

How about a yellow porshe logo IC? ;D

[Fajo]

They could put a digital image of a postage stamp and it would look better then the current Icon.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "They could put a digital image of a postage stamp and it would look better then the current Icon." }-

haha too true.

[TheIgster]

-{ Quote: "There's still some requirement for a regular AV these days, but it needs to be light on resources & work well with other security. Vipre ticks the 2nd box, but not the first. I'd really like Vipre to be good, really I would.

My mum can knit a new icon if required." }-

I have no issues with Vipre on resources, updates and with other products. I have tested Vipre with IObit, ThreatFire, and currently with Prevx and have had no issues.

Vipre is fast, light and plays well with others. it has also saved my butt several times.

As to the tray icon, well, I'm not going to get into that again. :wacko:

[Templar]

Vipre rox but that icon is so unpro looking they've got to fix that, it's so bad that people will seriously notice that and perhaps misjudge the product.. Seriously you want a good running software like Vipre to look good too.

I'm a big ESET fan but Eset and Win7 don't play, their web protection took down all my Win7 x64 comps at home and made the web experience grind to a halt so I'm test driving Vipre atm.
Installed the Beta on a VM machine, some ol' icon but Firewall module looks good, they've got to give us some viewing options there like not to see internal connections, TCP and/or UDP only etc.

Vipre 4 felt lightweight as well, looking forward to it.

Simon

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Vipre rox but that icon is so unpro looking they've got to fix that, it's so bad that people will seriously notice that and perhaps misjudge the product.. Seriously you want a good running software like Vipre to look good too.

I'm a big ESET fan but Eset and Win7 don't play, their web protection took down all my Win7 x64 comps at home and made the web experience grind to a halt so I'm test driving Vipre atm.
Installed the Beta on a VM machine, some ol' icon but Firewall module looks good, they've got to give us some viewing options there like not to see internal connections, TCP and/or UDP only etc.

Vipre 4 felt lightweight as well, looking forward to it.

Simon" }-

I agree the Icon in the Taskbar does not impress me at all! :thumbd: The desktop Icon Rocks that's what they should have in the Taskbar! :thumb:

TH

[firzen771]

anyone got screenshots of v4?

[ronjor]

Unless the beta agreement states that screenshots are allowed on open forums, they can't be posted here.

Generally, beta software is closed to public scrutiny unless stated otherwise.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "Unless the beta agreement states that screenshots are allowed on open forums, they can't be posted here.

Generally, beta software is closed to public scrutiny unless stated otherwise." }-

well if they are allowed then someone plz post.

[whitedragon551]

Vipres Beta is open to the public. There is no reason it cant be screenshotted. I just joined about 5 minutes ago and have it installed. The tray icons are the same.

It uses about 31K of memory while doing its initial update.

[Ibrad]

-{ Quote: "Vipres Beta is open to the public. There is no reason it cant be screenshotted. I just joined about 5 minutes ago and have it installed. The tray icons are the same.

It uses about 31K of memory while doing its initial update." }-

I don't know if they are going to change the tray icon but I think they are still working on some GUI changes.

If you want to use the Counterspy beta its very stable.

[Durad]

Good sides are that is has good GUI, affordable price, good HIPS and good removal cababilities, fast scanning.

Bad sides: update is very slow, notification pop-up window is not easy to read, average detection compared to Malwarebytes or SAS at least in my expirience.

They claim that software is light, however, if you right click big EXE file it will freeze or slow down a lot system for few seconds. I had to disable something in settings to make it not do this.

Im sorry but I can not agree that its light on system resources, somehow it slow down system on a different way... My system is running better with Norton, A-Squared, Prevx or G-Data.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "Good sides are that is has good GUI, affordable price, good HIPS and good removal cababilities, fast scanning.

Bad sides: update is very slow, notification pop-up window is not easy to read, average detection compared to Malwarebytes or SAS at least in my expirience.

They claim that software is light, however, if you right click big EXE file it will freeze or slow down a lot system for few seconds. I had to disable something in settings to make it not do this.

Im sorry but I can not agree that its light on system resources, somehow it slow down system on a different way... My system is running better with Norton, A-Squared, Prevx or G-Data." }-

sounds like ur running a diff program that doesnt like Vipre in that case, after i read that GDATA is running lighter than Vipre...

[Durad]

G-Data2010 AV works perfect for me unless MVPS hosts are installed.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "G-Data2010 AV works perfect for me unless MVPS hosts are installed." }-

im sure it does and i never said it didnt... but ur saying Vipre ran heavier than it, which it doesnt be any stretch of the imagination, thats why i said something on ur system doest seem to like Vipre...

[Inspector Clouseau]

-{ Quote: "They claim that software is light, however, if you right click big EXE file it will freeze or slow down a lot system for few seconds." }-

There is a possibility that this specific EXE file gets test-driven in MX-V. That means if it installs something it will test this file and tries to install all that in MX-V. Depending on the file (SFX Installer, or a heavily packed/encrypted file) it may take some time before it's finished.

[Saraceno]

I'd expect any software to freeze if you were actually running Vipre, OA (behaviour on), a-squared, prevx.

That's overkill (if that's what you were running). I'd say Vipre + prevx + OA (behaviour monitoring off) would run fine.

Otherwise you have a-squared monitoring files with its Mamutu component, OA monitoring processes, prevx sending data up-stream, and then Vipre trying to do its thing all at the same time.

[Durad]

Thanks Inspector. Does not some antivirus programs skip files larger than 2mb?



PS: I did not say im running all of them together.

[Fajo]

Wish List, For Viper 4.0

1. New Tray Icon. Try Photoshop it's a upgrade over MSPaint I swear. :blink:
2. Tests. You know those things that other AV's seem to get into but Viper is always "Wait tell next test moto". :lurking:

Here I made you a Icon. Only had MS Paint available as PhotoShop was on the computer that went BOOM!

214256

[Templar]

LOL HAHAHA nice icon, icon sux but Vipre ROX! Been using on my second comp and the beta 4 looks good. New low footprint king might be born.

Simon

[bigwrench9]

Man it really does look,and feel good.It is amazingly light.Been beta testing it too.

[Triple Helix]

Like I said already the Desktop Icon in the Tray would look nice! Version 3 Icon!

TH

[Triple Helix]

But Beta Version 4 Desktop Icon looks Better!

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "But Beta Version 4 Desktop Icon looks Better!" }-

what does the GUI look like and alert's?

[Triple Helix]

To me basically the same but it's clean and easy to navigate! I'm not using the one with firewall! I will ask if I can post some Pictures!

TH

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "To me basically the same but it's clean and easy to navigate! I'm not using the one with firewall! I will ask if I can post some Pictures!

TH" }-

sounds good, hopefully ur able to.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "sounds good, hopefully ur able to." }-

You should give it a try! http://beta.sunbelt-software.com/loginlocked.aspx?FTVAR_REDIRECTURLFRM=http%3a%2f%2fbeta.sunbelt-software.com%2fdefault.aspx

TH

[Templar]

I'm smooth running Vipre 4 Beta on Win7 x64.

I've been having a horrible time with the big names.
ESS 4, slows my www down like crazy. Comp sometimes hangs during shutdown.
Kaspersky: wouldn't even install haha :D
BitDefender: installed and looked good but I was having slowdowns in regular comp work.
Vipre 3: works like a charm, comp very responsive.
Vipre 4 Beta: works like a charm..

Now we just need Vipre to mature a bit and start taking on the big boys.

About my problem, it's logical to assume they're related to Windows7 x64 etc. but it's been out for a while now and the beta before that. There are no excuse in not supporting it well.

Simon

[whitedragon551]

Its not logical at all to think that its related to Win7 x64. Ive trialled each and every software youve mentioned on x64 and not a single issue. It has to be user configuration or imcompatibility with another software thats installed.

[Templar]

LOL whitedragon, you represent a single person and to say based on your experience that something isn't logical for the millions out there and numerous threads on these forums stating the opposite in my opinion isn't logical.

I know I'm not being very scientific but at this point for me it's perfectly logical to assume it's a Win7 x64 compatability issue / teething problem. The usual Help Desk rep response is always tho to twist it as a user error but I happen to have 3 notebooks in my home all running Windows 7 x64 and two of those have identical track records with the AVs I mentioned above.

On top of that at work I had another notebook show the same issue with one of the suites I mentioned, no trials were performed on that notebook however but we changed AV quickly to something we knew was good.

Simon

[whitedragon551]

Each of the softwares you have had troubles with all stated they are compatible with the OS in question. It works on other peoples computers so we know its not the coding. Its possible its hardware related, but not likely. Its very likely to assume that its an incompatible program on your home computers such as a sandboxing type program or other security software.

[NickHSunbelt]

-{ Quote: "To me basically the same but it's clean and easy to navigate! I'm not using the one with firewall! I will ask if I can post some Pictures!

TH" }-

Yes, it's perfectly fine to post screenshots if you'd like.

Edit: Please keep in mind that we are also planning to make some changes to the interface so what you see currently will not be the same as the final release.

[bigwrench9]

Now we just need Vipre to mature a bit and start taking on the big boys.
Simon" }-


But not acting like them.ie...bloated,overpriced.

[Triple Helix]

Here are some pics of the GUI from Version 4 as it stands now!

TH

[Triple Helix]

About tab!

[Triple Helix]

Warning Tab and Show Details!

TH

[firzen771]

some currently GUI is almost identicle to v3, Nick is ther ANY chance the tray icon will be changed, because it is god awful atm...

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "some currently GUI is almost identicle to v3, Nick is ther ANY chance the tray icon will be changed, because it is god awful atm..." }-

ATM it is gray and they know it as it is a bug but defiantly needs to be changed!

TH

[NickHSunbelt]

-{ Quote: "some currently GUI is almost identicle to v3, Nick is ther ANY chance the tray icon will be changed, because it is god awful atm..." }-

I have confirmed that this has already been added as a feature request but I don't believe it is planned for this release.

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "I have confirmed that this has already been added as a feature request but I don't believe it is planned for this release." }-

Not made enough money yet to upgrade over MSPaint ? :blink:

[Templar]

Fajo, that's low class.

Simon

[Macstorm]

Yeah too much mischief for a simple tray icon... I don't like mine either but I have no choice :-\

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "Fajo, that's low class.

Simon" }-

I'm sorry but it takes all of 10 sec to make the current Tray icon in MSPaint. You can't tell me it is that hard to change it or redesign it to look better then it currently does. Being cheap is no excuse for being sloppy.

Also Another test round has gone by..... Still no viper, Let me guess your working on it. We will see it next test. ;)

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "I'm sorry but it takes all of 10 sec to make the current Tray icon in MSPaint. You can't tell me it is that hard to change it or redesign it to look better then it currently does. Being cheap is no excuse for being sloppy.

Also Another test round has gone by..... Still no viper, Let me guess your working on it. We will see it next test. ;)" }-

lol i dont like to, but unfortunately i have to agree with everything u just said :(

[Triple Helix]

Beta 2 is now out!

Just join the forum here if you want to http://beta.sunbelt-software.com/loginlocked.aspx?FTVAR_REDIRECTURLFRM=http%3a%2f%2fbeta.sunbelt-software.com%2fdefault.aspx%3fNoCookies%3dYes

TH

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "Beta 2 is now out!

Just join the forum here if you want to http://beta.sunbelt-software.com/loginlocked.aspx?FTVAR_REDIRECTURLFRM=http%3a%2f%2fbeta.sunbelt-software.com%2fdefault.aspx%3fNoCookies%3dYes

TH" }-


Sweet. wonder if they fixed that GUI Glitch in the taskbar yet. O wait! sorry :blink:

[Graystoke]

I don't get. Why is the icon in the taskbar such a big deal? I've never stopped using a piece of software because I didn't like the way the taskbar icon looked. If that's the biggest problem with the security software, I'll take it every time.

Maybe this is what it's coming to?.................First guy..."That AV(AM,AS,etc.) is a piece of crap"! Second guy...."Yeah that's true, but it has a pretty taskbar icon, I'll spend the $80" ;) ;D

[whitedragon551]

-{ Quote: "I'm sorry but it takes all of 10 sec to make the current Tray icon in MSPaint. You can't tell me it is that hard to change it or redesign it to look better then it currently does. Being cheap is no excuse for being sloppy.

Also Another test round has gone by..... Still no viper, Let me guess your working on it. We will see it next test. ;)" }-

Its probably not, but given the small size its not exactly a piece of cake putting together a task bar icon that isnt pixelated or cluttered. Have you ever done a favicon for a website? Ive done a few from their own logos and its not by any means easy to do without messing up. If your so bent out of shape over it go get another AV with a more appealing icon and less protection.

[Triple Helix]

Every thing still looks the same in GUI.

TH

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "Its probably not, but given the small size its not exactly a piece of cake putting together a task bar icon that isnt pixelated or cluttered. Have you ever done a favicon for a website? Ive done a few from their own logos and its not by any means easy to do without messing up. If your so bent out of shape over it go get another AV with a more appealing icon and less protection." }-


Guess I could do that. Sense viper is holding the top in test right now.... O wait

Also Icons in the task bar are not has hard as your putting them off to be. And drawing 4 box's in the tray icon and saying it took us hours to do makes them look like a idiot. I'm sorry if they spent even 1 hour on it they could make it look 10x better then it currently does.

But as stated above. Finding another AV with one a more appealing Icon and 2 more protection is not very hard to find.

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "I don't get. Why is the icon in the taskbar such a big deal? I've never stopped using a piece of software because I didn't like the way the taskbar icon looked. If that's the biggest problem with the security software, I'll take it every time.

Maybe this is what it's coming to?.................First guy..."That AV(AM,AS,etc.) is a piece of crap"! Second guy...."Yeah that's true, but it has a pretty taskbar icon, I'll spend the $80" ;) ;D" }-

It's not the icon in it self that means anything its the simple fact of pure laziness that happens because of it. take 10 sec to make a icon call it good (Especially something people see day after day) Just makes them look like they are doing a sloppy job.


As for the 2nd quote people have done stupider things then that. And frankly I would not put it past people.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "I don't get. Why is the icon in the taskbar such a big deal? I've never stopped using a piece of software because I didn't like the way the taskbar icon looked. If that's the biggest problem with the security software, I'll take it every time.

Maybe this is what it's coming to?.................First guy..."That AV(AM,AS,etc.) is a piece of crap"! Second guy...."Yeah that's true, but it has a pretty taskbar icon, I'll spend the $80" ;) ;D" }-


its important since thers so many other alternatives that are equally as good if not better, so seeing the half ass, no effort job they did with thier tray icon wont really put them ahead of the competition and gives no incentive with something so simple yet done so horribly wrong.

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "its important since thers so many other alternatives that are equally as good if not better, so seeing the half ass, no effort job they did with thier tray icon wont really put them ahead of the competition and gives no incentive with something so simple yet done so horribly wrong." }-


I agree with this. Everything about a program from the GUI to the way it works all shows how the product quality and the effort put into it. If you simply put no effort into something then what are people to expect. It's like Buying a New car but having the paint job scratched to hell and the company saying. Hey but there is a new engine under the hood. You would simply move on to another dealership that gave you what you should of got at the last one.

[Graystoke]

You both bring up good points. And when I look at it that way, I have to agree.

[NickHSunbelt]

The reason we were not planning to change the icon is not out of laziness but because we hadn't seen any requests for a new icon. Yes, it is rather simple to create a new icon but we didn't see a need for it. However, seeing all the recent requests for a new icon here and on our beta forums I've been pushing for this myself. I believe we'll be seeing a new icon in beta 3. I spent some time on this myself and if we end up using the tray icon I worked on then the tray icon will look similar to VIPRE's desktop icon which will change color depending on VIPRE's status.

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "The reason we were not planning to change the icon is not out of laziness but because we hadn't seen any requests for a new icon. Yes, it is rather simple to create a new icon but we didn't see a need for it. However, seeing all the recent requests for a new icon here and on our beta forums I've been pushing for this myself. I believe we'll be seeing a new icon in beta 3. I spent some time on this myself and if we end up using the tray icon I worked on then the tray icon will look similar to VIPRE's desktop icon which will change color depending on VIPRE's status." }-

-{ Quote: "I have confirmed that this has already been added as a feature request but I don't believe it is planned for this release." }-

Point ^
I took it as you guys did know and just decided to leave as is regardless of what your users thought. If I misunderstood what you meant then please accept my apology. On the other note it's good to see it will add to the look and value viper as a whole.. Now how about those darn tests. and please no more We are working on it excuses.

[Durad]

Hey Nick if you could change this window it would be nice:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=214279&stc=1&d=1261086150

Use RED color and with large RED fonts: Vipre blocked known bad file! The current one does not catch eye as some other products :)

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "The reason we were not planning to change the icon is not out of laziness but because we hadn't seen any requests for a new icon. Yes, it is rather simple to create a new icon but we didn't see a need for it. However, seeing all the recent requests for a new icon here and on our beta forums I've been pushing for this myself. I believe we'll be seeing a new icon in beta 3. I spent some time on this myself and if we end up using the tray icon I worked on then the tray icon will look similar to VIPRE's desktop icon which will change color depending on VIPRE's status." }-

From an ugly "V" to a "snake" (i hate them). I don't know which one is worse. ;D Couldn't you make something like a "flaming V"? ;D

Err... Could you also allow for the user to still have a "green checkmark" on the "scan status" if he chooses to disable scheduled scans? You know, a bit like Win7 action center allows to "ignore" an alert. I don't use scheduled tests and it's a bit ugly to have everything green and 1 red , just because i have disabled scheduled scans. You could make it an advanced option so that newbies won't get confused. Something like "ignore scheduled scans off".

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "The reason we were not planning to change the icon is not out of laziness but because we hadn't seen any requests for a new icon. Yes, it is rather simple to create a new icon but we didn't see a need for it. However, seeing all the recent requests for a new icon here and on our beta forums I've been pushing for this myself. I believe we'll be seeing a new icon in beta 3. I spent some time on this myself and if we end up using the tray icon I worked on then the tray icon will look similar to VIPRE's desktop icon which will change color depending on VIPRE's status." }-

good news ;D

[NickHSunbelt]

-{ Quote: "Hey Nick if you could change this window it would be nice:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=214279&stc=1&d=1261086150

Use RED color and with large RED fonts: Vipre blocked known bad file! The current one does not catch eye as some other products :)" }-

I know some work is being done on the interface layout but I don't believe any other graphics are planned to be changed in this release. I'll add this as a feature request.

-{ Quote: "From an ugly "V" to a "snake" (i hate them). I don't know which one is worse. ;D Couldn't you make something like a "flaming V"? ;D

Err... Could you also allow for the user to still have a "green checkmark" on the "scan status" if he chooses to disable scheduled scans? You know, a bit like Win7 action center allows to "ignore" an alert. I don't use scheduled tests and it's a bit ugly to have everything green and 1 red , just because i have disabled scheduled scans. You could make it an advanced option so that newbies won't get confused. Something like "ignore scheduled scans off"." }-

This has already been added as a feature request although I don't believe this change is going to make it into this release.

[darthsideous666]

Running the Premium with Firewall version on my Vista 64 machine at the moment. With the exception of configuring the firewall around my Xbox 360/Xbox Live connection, the program is running very well! I kinda like the GUI look the way it is. It does need a password protection setting though.

[Fuzzfas]

I can't believe how i missed this till now. I noticed that in advanced options, you can set it to "prompt for all unknown" programs. This is great! It's like a simple anti-executable!

Could you just make a modification to allow all existing exes? Cause right now , it asks about everything. It would be a great simple HIPS in an AV! I was looking for an anti-executable for x64 and it was right in Vipre!

Please consider putting an option to not treat as unknown the existing programs.

[Fuzzfas]

If someone does take the time to manually whitelist all his exes, is there a way to backup it up (the always allowed list), so that he will not have to do it from scratch if he uninstalls and reinstalls? A setting , file or something?

[darthsideous666]

Still testing this and I like what I see so far. I am looking for something to run on my 64bit systems that is not overwhelming and this just may be it. It is not overly bloated with features and it is running light. The firewall is different then that of the Keiro/Sunbelt firewall (which is a good thing, IMHO) and it is configurable. It appears that a lot of the complaints here are about the icon/GUI and lack of testing. These are things that can easily be worked on and taken care of.

I for one used to use Counterspy back in the "day" and slowly got away from it for various reasons. I have since taken another look and think that Sunbelt is coming along well and can compete in the "home user" field with a so called "suite". Still, I am surprised not to see more Wilders users testing this? I know that we all like to see those comparative tests but I also know that we have some folks here that like to compare it to their own real world testing. Those are some tests that I would like to see!

One major positive is that if you need it, the support is a lot better then most since you can actually make a toll free call to a real person, for free! Just my thoughts on a product that I think has potential, especially with more user input!

[Fuzzfas]

1) Is anyone by any chance using Vipre 4 beta with Threatfire on x64 machine? Right now i want to run Threatfire, but there's either a conflict with v3 causing Vipre's icon to lag on boot (tried unchecking scan files on copy) or this : http://www.pctools.com/forum/showpost.php?p=222627&postcount=16 . If you are, do you observe any lag on boot of the Vipre icon?

Either way, now i am with Avast, until a new TF version or Vipre version comes out and hopefully solves it.


2) Does Vipre 4 run heavier or lighter compared to v3? I noticed that while the system does feel light, especially with operations like p2p and browsing, CPU Time is going pretty high. In one occasion (that i don't remember what it was), it happened tohave the task manager open and Vipre spiked momentarily to 24% of the quad core CPU. Although i don't perceive slow down. Things get better by unchecking "scan while copying and on open). I think it would be perfect for Vipre to add some technology to skip a file from scan when it has not changed, like KAV does for example.

3)Aside the firewall, is there something new in the antivirus in v4?

-{ Quote: "Still, I am surprised not to see more Wilders users testing this? I know that we all like to see those comparative tests but I also know that we have some folks here that like to compare it to their own real world testing." }-

I didn't do any long testing in Vipre (v3) to have an opinion yet. I have the suspicion, yet to be confirmed, that the response time to new malware could be better. Probably this is related to the not so often signature updates. I say this because a few days ago, i tried 3 "fresh" malware links at random (from the bottom of the 1st page of malwaredomain list and from the 2nd page). Now i didn't execute them, so MX-V didn't kick in. On demand, Vipre didn't detect them. MBAM nailed them all 3.

When i will install Vipre again and have time , i may do more.

Vipre has much potential no doubt. It is also my impression that it also has room for improvement, specially on the signature side. It's still young, it has time to grow.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "I know some work is being done on the interface layout but I don't believe any other graphics are planned to be changed in this release. I'll add this as a feature request.



This has already been added as a feature request although I don't believe this change is going to make it into this release." }-

Hi Nick,

What's up with the Beta forum can't get into it, getting can't find Web Page 404!

TH

[darthsideous666]

-{ Quote: "Hi Nick,

What's up with the Beta forum can't get into it, getting can't find Web Page 404!

TH" }-

I noticed it was an issue over the weekend. They also had an issue with the update servers. It has been reported and hopefully their I.T. will get it fixed ASAP! I was still able to login but I had to use the browser back button when reading the forum.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "I noticed it was an issue over the weekend. They also had an issue with the update servers. It has been reported and hopefully their I.T. will get it fixed ASAP! I was still able to login but I had to use the browser back button when reading the forum." }-

Thanks to the Dark Side of the force! LOL

TH

[darthsideous666]

-{ Quote: "Thanks to the Dark Side of the force! LOL

TH" }-

"The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural"

[JohnnyDollar]

-{ Quote: "Thanks to the Dark Side of the force! LOL

TH" }-

-{ Quote: ""The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural"" }-

http://www.starwars.com/fanclub/ :blink: lol

[vijayind]

Another update via SunbeltNews. Just posting the stuff I liked, for the rest read the full length propaganda .... err, Interview :)

-{ Quote: "
SSN: Tell us about the Firewall.

CL: Within the Firewall, we have a number of technologies including a Bi-Directional Firewall, HIPS (Host Intrusion Protection System), IDS (Intrusion Detection Systems), Web Filtering, Ad Blocking, Bad URL Blocking, Anti-Phishing, and the firewall is able to use Sunbelt's ThreatTrack Data, which protects you against malicious sites.

SSN: Wow! That's quite an impressive list of features. Can you break them down for us?

CL: The Bi-Directional Firewall is pretty self-explanatory, it filters both incoming and outgoing traffic by default, unlike the Windows firewall. Our HIPS technology prevents programs from injecting malicious code into other programs. The IDS uses a set of rules to block specific attacks by matching an observed behavior against the rule set. One of the most commonly known IDS rule types is something called SNORT® rules. Our Web Filtering, Ad Blocking and Bad URL Blocking are designed to stop specific types of Internet activity, from accessing known bad sites to preventing known bad advertising sources from displaying links, to stopping specific types of bad web applications from running.

SSN: Nice!

CL: Not only do we prevent bad sites from being accessed through your web browser, we also stop Trojans, keyloggers and similar types of programs from "phoning home" to known bad sites. We strip bad URLs out of emails, commonly known as phishing attacks. Our Web Filtering and Anti-Phishing use Sunbelt ThreatTrack data, which is a data source that is created by our Malware Research Team and used by government and defense agencies in addition to major corporations and institutions.

SSN: What other improvements have we made to 4.0?

CL: We already have very stable products with CounterSpy and VIPRE 3.1. With the 4.0 release, we're taking these products two steps further with Auto-Scan Removable Drives, full Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 Support, Boot Cleaner Native 64-bit, Scan Extensions in Firefox (equivalent to Browser Helper Objects in Internet Explorer), Scan more archive file types, Improved Active Protection, Improved Email antivirus, improved rootkit detection and removal, and VIPRE now detects which files belong to the Windows Operating System and leaves these files alone.

There are numerous other "under the hood" improvements as well, all of which promise to make the 4.0 release a very important release for our customers. I think you're going to like what you find with 4.0.
" }-

Source:
http://www.sunbeltsecuritynews.com/?id=45


I love the part about leaving Win files alone. Vipre keeps detecting ntkrnl files as trojan/fakeav. I report the FP and then it resurfaces again after few weeks :( Finally I won't have to reopen the same FP report every month...

[Fly]

I wonder if the firewall is still heavy on resources.

[rockdj99uk]

Looks like it might be worth steering clear of Vipre. At least for now anyway. They've been having problems with their update server, i.e. it doesn't work, for a week and have even said that it is fixed when it clearly isn't. They appear to be very cagey about what has happened.

I'm stuck with a home licence and having to manually update each PC. :-[

Take your business elsewhere.

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "Improved Active Protection" }-

Any more info about this?

Is there an ETA for the release of V4 yet? (approximately).

[JohnnyDollar]

-{ Quote: "I'm stuck with a home licence and having to manually update each PC. :-[

Take your business elsewhere." }-

Did you get the lifetime license when they had that deal going a while back?

[darthsideous666]

-{ Quote: "Looks like it might be worth steering clear of Vipre. At least for now anyway. They've been having problems with their update server, i.e. it doesn't work, for a week and have even said that it is fixed when it clearly isn't. They appear to be very cagey about what has happened.

I'm stuck with a home licence and having to manually update each PC. :-[

Take your business elsewhere." }-


Not sure it was a problem for everyone? I did not have an issue and I am using the beta version, not that it should matter with the definition updates. ??? Either way, I am sure that no other company has ever had a server issue so this is certainly a reason to steer clear of a product and take your business elsewhere. ::)

They do however need to get the Beta Forum issue fixed.

[falkor]

By the time this gets to market , the developers will have moved on to other things . Sunbelt , as a company has been customer oriented but , too much time is going into a product that will not take the world by storm . At the end of the day , it is just another antimalware application . So do not get too excited . Just hold your breath and when it is FINALLY released , have a play . Then go back to what you liked beforehand .8)

[vijayind]

Raised a support ticket. Lets see when they fix the update issue.

[NickHSunbelt]

We believe the update servers issue has been resolved and the load on our servers is getting back to normal so there shouldn't be any further problems updating. If you do still have trouble updating please try manually updating your definitions by following the instructions on this page:

http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Home-Home-Office/VIPRE/Definitions/

After updating this way if you're still having trouble updating please contact our support directly by emailing support@sunbeltsoftware.com because if you are still having trouble updating it may be an issue specific to your system.

We are aware of the issue with the beta forums but it has been a lower priority as we were putting all our efforts into resolving the issues with the update servers. This should be fixed soon but for now you should still be able to navigate the beta forums without a problem by using the links on the left instead of the links at the top of the page. I believe the only issue with the beta forums is the links at the top of the page not being redirected correctly.

As for VIPRE 4 and VIPRE Premium, these are planned to be officially released around February 1st. The firewall as a standalone will go into beta shortly after.

[Durad]

-{ Quote: "The firewall as a standalone will go into beta shortly after." }-

Would you still offer free firewall and are those problems with web filtering fixed where it effect web sites even if they are whitelisted?

[Templar]

-{ Quote: "By the time this gets to market , the developers will have moved on to other things . Sunbelt , as a company has been customer oriented but , too much time is going into a product that will not take the world by storm . At the end of the day , it is just another antimalware application . So do not get too excited . Just hold your breath and when it is FINALLY released , have a play . Then go back to what you liked beforehand .8)" }-

You're dead wrong. I'm liking Vipre a lot due to it's very good balance in "clean vs. options", it works out of the box but if you want to start digging around you'll find most options there to configure.
The regular usrs I've tried Vipre on have commented on that they like the "new and silent AV that was installed".

I have faith that they'll get their early detection rates to the highest levels, I'll be purchasing Vipre 4 and so will the office where I work.

Simon

[NickHSunbelt]

-{ Quote: "Would you still offer free firewall and are those problems with web filtering fixed where it effect web sites even if they are whitelisted?" }-

I'm unsure of what we have planned for the next release as far as a free version as this is not even into the beta stage yet although it will be soon.

I'm not familiar with the problems you mentioned. The only issue I've seen with this is if the exception is entered incorrectly. Sometimes content on a website is actually hosted somewhere else. If something is being blocked you would need to add an exception for where ever that content is hosted. I do know there are plans to make improvements to web filtering though as well as other parts of the firewall. Of course, since this is still in development I don't have all the specifics. I'd be able to give you more information once the firewall as a standalone product is released as a beta.

Also, the links on the beta forum should be working correctly again.

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "
As for VIPRE 4 and VIPRE Premium, these are planned to be officially released around February 1st. The firewall as a standalone will go into beta shortly after." }-

Thanks, good to hear.

Threatfire gave me some small bugs, so i uninstalled and put Vipre back. I hope v.4 will have less false positives.

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3338/94048106.png

DVD Fab Decrypter free and Networx uninstallers flagged as High Risk Rogue Security programs...

I "sent" them to Sunbelt via the program. I hope they were sent. The submission must be improved with a simple "Samples successfully sent" message when the upload is complete.

These weren't flagged as false positived before, so some recent signature is what "broke" them.

[Fuzzfas]

BTW, given the rate of false positives (i ve had 4 or 5 in less than 1 month of real use), default quarantine setting, should be "never delete automatically from quarantine".

Otherwise, newbie users, may find themselves with crippled legitimate software before they realize it was false positive. I don't know what's the setting in v4, but IMHO, if it's not already, you should consider setting to that default.

In my case, if i didn't know they are false positives and didn't send them, in 15 days i would end up without possibility to uninstall DVD Fab and Networx. I 'd have to try reistalling them over the top and then uninstall. In other cases, something worse may happen.

[NickHSunbelt]

Fuzzfas,

I've added both of these suggestions as feature requests for consideration in future releases.

For now, if you are worried about the files not being transmitted correctly you can always check VIPRE's History to check if you had any errors. To do this, open VIPRE. Click Manage in the top right. Click View history. Go to the System tab. If the transfer of the file failed you would see an error message that states "The transfer of one or more ThreatNet files failed".

I'm sorry for the high amount of false positives you've seen. It's not common to see so many although it will tend to happen more with lesser known software. Normally when a false positive is reported it will be corrected in one of the next definitions updates.

[Fly]

NickHSunbelt,

In PCSL's recent static test VIPRE ranks rather low.
Why is that ? I know Sunbelt Software is not a 'regular AV company'. Does the problem have anything to do with sharing/obtaining malware samples/signatures with/from other AV vendors ?

[darthsideous666]

-{ Quote: "NickHSunbelt,

In PCSL's recent static test VIPRE ranks rather low.
Why is that ? I know Sunbelt Software is not a 'regular AV company'. Does the problem have anything to do with to sharing/obtaining malware samples/signatures with/from other AV vendors ?" }-

I agree that they did not get the top score in this test but I guess this testing is also open to interpretation, since 18 of the vendors, including Sunbelt, were all given the 5 Star Excellent Award which was achieved by a final score of 95.00-100.00?

[NickHSunbelt]

-{ Quote: "NickHSunbelt,

In PCSL's recent static test VIPRE ranks rather low.
Why is that ? I know Sunbelt Software is not a 'regular AV company'. Does the problem have anything to do with to sharing/obtaining malware samples/signatures with/from other AV vendors ?" }-

I'm truthfully not too familiar with the test. I see they had used a lot of samples obtained from the anti-virus companies themselves and depending on who the samples were obtained from and which companies are sharing these samples it can obviously have a big impact on the test. I do know we share samples with some companies although I don't have much information on that as I work in support and don't deal with that sort of thing.

[falkor]

Vipre has been just like VBA32 . Lots of talk but , in the end , nothing special . Customer Service is great . The Anti Virus solution will end up less than great I am afraid . We have been here before with Sunbelt . I am sure the work is being done but , as before , it will be less than stellar .
Good luck

[Templar]

LOL Falkor thanks for the prediction, have you tried Vipre? Mine are the opposite of yours.

The software is already top notch, the only thing that's missing is to up the detection rate a few %.

I've yet to meet some one that has used Vipre and had a "horrible" experience, of course the xp varies but overall it seems most end up having not too many expectations and are pleasantly surprised.

Vipre just has some balance that I've taken a liking to and so have those who've started using it after I've pointed it out.

Simon

[bigwrench9]

Amen Templar.No problems here with Vipre whatsoever.

[egghead]

I third that.

Very good software and very good company.

My prediction: within 2 years Vipre will be the numero uno in AV land.

more users opinions:

http://www.amazon.com/TOPICS-Entertainment-81032-AntiVirus-AntiSpyware/dp/B0026PEP5S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1263329605&sr=1-1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832832001&cm_re=vipre_antivirus_%2b_antispyware-_-32-832-001-_-Product

[Templar]

Yeah the price is very subtle too, I just bought a home site license for 4 comps.
Will be upgrading the lic to version 4 when it's officially out.

Even if Vipre doesn't have the top detection rate it for sure has high enough atm. and it'll only get better so overall it's a great product.

What broke it for me is the ease of which I was able to put it on all my servers, no special download and my servers haven't had a hitch nor did I notice any slowdowns in file performance etc.

Simon

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "I third that.

Very good software and very good company.

My prediction: within 2 years Vipre will be the numero uno in AV land.

more users opinions:

http://www.amazon.com/TOPICS-Entertainment-81032-AntiVirus-AntiSpyware/dp/B0026PEP5S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1263329605&sr=1-1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832832001&cm_re=vipre_antivirus_%2b_antispyware-_-32-832-001-_-Product" }-

My Prediction: 2 Years from now you will still be getting "We will join tests soon and prove our product Just WAIT until the NEXT test" Just like it's been for the last 2 years. But then again if a test shows your product in a BAD light why would you ever want it released. it's better just to say we are working on it then release the test. At least this is the only logical thing I can come up with for the delay.

As it being number 1 something drastic would have to happen to the top performers for this to ever happen. otherwise it will pretty much just stay where it's at.

[darthsideous666]

-{ Quote: "My Prediction: 2 Years from now you will still be getting "We will join tests soon and prove our product Just WAIT until the NEXT test" Just like it's been for the last 2 years. But then again if a test shows your product in a BAD light why would you ever want it released. it's better just to say we are working on it then release the test. At least this is the only logical thing I can come up with for the delay.

As it being number 1 something drastic would have to happen to the top performers for this to ever happen. otherwise it will pretty much just stay where it's at." }-


My Prediction is 2 years from now somebody will be giving someone their prediction about something!!;D

Until then....it would be nice to see these so called test results you are speaking about!

[Templar]

-{ Quote: "My Prediction is 2 years from now somebody will be giving someone their prediction about something!!;D

Until then....it would be nice to see these so called test results you are speaking about!" }-

Good reply Darth.. HAHAHA :D nothing better then a few pointless posts off topic.

[egghead]

-{ Quote: "I third that.

Very good software and very good company.

My prediction: within 2 years Vipre will be the numero uno in AV land.

more users opinions:

http://www.amazon.com/TOPICS-Entertainment-81032-AntiVirus-AntiSpyware/dp/B0026PEP5S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=software&qid=1263329605&sr=1-1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832832001&cm_re=vipre_antivirus_%2b_antispyware-_-32-832-001-_-Product" }-

-{ Quote: "My Prediction: 2 Years from now you will still be getting "We will join tests soon and prove our product Just WAIT until the NEXT test" Just like it's been for the last 2 years. But then again if a test shows your product in a BAD light why would you ever want it released. it's better just to say we are working on it then release the test. At least this is the only logical thing I can come up with for the delay.

As it being number 1 something drastic would have to happen to the top performers for this to ever happen. otherwise it will pretty much just stay where it's at." }-

I have posted links to customer reviews just to show VIPRE works for many people in "their world". You can't say all these reviews have been written by Sunbelt people, can you ?

I don't care about all these "tests" and all the tests fetishists who are being turned on by their 99,9 % detection sucker. These tests test what the average user will never encounter in the real world. I'm in the pc repair business. You don't have an idea how many pc's I have brought to life that were protected by a "gold medal winner AV'" and still got infected.

An AV works for YOU or it does not. Obviously, VIPRE works for a lot of people, me being one of them.

My remark VIPRE becoming the nr uno in AV land not only has to do with the quality of this program but also with the company; everything breaths professionalism: ranging from the program itself to their website, customer service etc. etc.

And no, I'm not on the payroll of this company (but I'm available ;D ).

[Fly]

-{ Quote: "An AV works for YOU or it does not. Obviously, VIPRE works for a lot of people, me being one of them" }-

It's not really that subjective. Unless you have to deal with a certain of subset of risks, like P2P, adware, cookies etc.

For me, av-comparatives is the gold standard. Imperfect, but objective.

What does 'VIPRE works' mean ?

It works without corrupting the system, it uses few resources, I don't get infected but I probably wouldn't get infected without an AV anyway ?

They are dodging av-comparatives' tests, that by itself doesn't look good.

Too bad, I'd like to know how they'd perform.

[firzen771]

well only criticism i have for Vipre is they have been saying "theyre working on it" and "will join soon" for a LONG time now, and STILL nothing is being done. it just makes me wonder WHY nothing is being done after saying they will...

[Templar]

-{ Quote: "well only criticism i have for Vipre is they have been saying "theyre working on it" and "will join soon" for a LONG time now, and STILL nothing is being done. it just makes me wonder WHY nothing is being done after saying they will..." }-

Not defending Sunbelt but I can imagine that they want to get it right once they get more objective testing as there are so many that make their purchase decisions based on the results of those tests.
This would make a whole lot of sense from a business standpoint and as the continue to up their protection rate they'll join the herd.
Until then I believe they provide more then enough protection for the average user but that's not what counts for every one.

Simon

[JohnnyDollar]

-{ Quote: "Not defending Sunbelt but I can imagine that they want to get it right once they get more objective testing as there are so many that make their purchase decisions based on the results of those tests.
This would make a whole lot of sense from a business standpoint and as the continue to up their protection rate they'll join the herd.
Until then I believe they provide more then enough protection for the average user but that's not what counts for every one.

Simon" }-

I think that a product has to have at least one of two things to get off the ground. Something tangible to go on such as tests, or a very well developed reputation as a top application in it's field within the security community. Right now Vipre has neither. I have read mostly positive comments about it from licensed users here at Wilders, but how often do you see other members here posting in threads advising others to go with Vipre? They just haven't caught on yet. Maybe they will who knows.

[Fuzzfas]

I got via auto-update version 2848. Is there a changelog somewhere?

At Sunbelt site, it shows the previous version.

BTW, after first reboot, system froze, i had to reset using the reset switch and then Vipre loaded normally.

[NickHSunbelt]

Fuzzfas,

This update basically made some changes to prevent VIPRE from ever removing protected Windows files so if you do get a false positive with a Windows file it would report only and not remove that file as that could prevent Windows from starting back up correctly.

The other big change in this update has to do with detections for Conficker. Here is a quote from our Product Manager explaining this:

-{ Quote: "
A variant of Conficker bypasses the file system, causing this threat to reside undetected on a computer. A change has been made in the threat engine to do file searches that detect this hidden threat. VIPRE has been able to remediate this threat once detected. This change finds the hidden Conficker files and presents them to our detection engine for cleaning. " }-

This should be the last update we push out before VIPRE 4.0 which is planned to be released in about 2 weeks.

[xxJackxx]

-{ Quote: "Fuzzfas,

This update basically made some changes to prevent VIPRE from ever removing protected Windows files so if you do get a false positive with a Windows file it would report only and not remove that file as that could prevent Windows from starting back up correctly. " }-

What a great idea. You would think everyone would do this, but that is not the case. :ouch:

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "Not defending Sunbelt but I can imagine that they want to get it right once they get more objective testing as there are so many that make their purchase decisions based on the results of those tests.
This would make a whole lot of sense from a business standpoint and as the continue to up their protection rate they'll join the herd.
Until then I believe they provide more then enough protection for the average user but that's not what counts for every one.

Simon" }-

Frankly with no proof about there protection. You could turn around and say CalmAV is enough protection for the average user. It has about the same validity as that last comment

[Fuzzfas]

Thanks Nick!

Running fine.

[Triple Helix]

VIPRE 4.0 Consumer Beta 3 Release Announcement

We are very pleased to announce the Beta 3 release of VIPRE and CounterSpy 4.0 Consumer. There are three products available for testing:

• VIPRE Premium with Firewall
• VIPRE Antivirus + Antispyware
• CounterSpy

The build number for all products is 4.0.3217. Beta Keys are supplied!

You have to join to get it http://beta.sunbelt-software.com/loginlocked.aspx?FTVAR_REDIRECTURLFRM=http%3a%2f%2fbeta.sunbelt-software.com%2fdefault.aspx

TH

[zfactor]

running the beta with firewall now and there is a ton of system drag. taking almost 15 seconds or so to open chrome??

startup is much slower as well as opening apps. ill try it out for a bit longer though.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "running the beta with firewall now and there is a ton of system drag. taking almost 15 seconds or so to open chrome??

startup is much slower as well as opening apps. ill try it out for a bit longer though." }-

I'm just using VIPRE Antivirus + Antispyware which is now just called VIPRE Antivirus in this Build!

But they still have that Ugly Tray Icon and it's an EYE SORE Nick!!! :wacko:

TH

[zfactor]

yeah, this is sowing huge impact for me. granted this test system is not the fastest in the world its a core 2 2.8 with 4gb ram. and i can feel the slowdown for sure with the firewall version. once chrome and ie are open its not to bad but it also slows down browsing the drives and starting up programs.

detection wise so far with my samples has been pretty good. i am not crazy about the gui and i agree about the tray icon

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "I'm just using VIPRE Antivirus + Antispyware which is now just called VIPRE Antivirus!

But they still have that Ugly Tray Icon and it's an EYE SORE Nick!!! :wacko:

TH" }-

:'( disappointing...

[darthsideous666]

I Installed the premium version on one machine so far. Install went smoother then the previous beta. Yes, the icon needs to be changed and password protection still needs to be added! I noticed that "Block 3rd party advertisements" is "checked" by default in the Web Filtering Settings. I wonder if that had anything to do with the drag that zfactor is experiencing? It probably should be "unchecked" by default since it causes pages to load differently and may confuse the average user into thinking something is wrong with their computer! I still need to test the firewall and see if the XBOX 360 connection issue has been fixed. Overall, I think it seems to be running well at the moment.

[dcrowe0050]

I don't know about any predictions, but I do wish they would join some tests. I have been testing the ne Premium beta for a while and I like it pretty we. I think this is my favorite use of a firewall in a suite, very usable and easy to configure, love the rules wizard.
I did throw a few bad links at it but it did not impress on that end. of course it was early beta and still a lot of bugs when I did this. I think they have a great product, but as many people rely on tests it would do them good to join in one.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "I don't know about any predictions, but I do wish they would join some tests. I have been testing the ne Premium beta for a while and I like it pretty we. I think this is my favorite use of a firewall in a suite, very usable and easy to configure, love the rules wizard.
I did throw a few bad links at it but it did not impress on that end. of course it was early beta and still a lot of bugs when I did this. I think they have a great product, but as many people rely on tests it would do them good to join in one." }-

Yes I would like to see some test also it would help us make up our mind if it is truly any good! But everything that I have thrown at it , it stop all of them some old ones from 3 years ago and some new one's from today! I'm running it on all of my VM's which are XP Pro SP3, Vista SP2 and Win 7 all 32bit!

TH

[zfactor]

i unchecked the ad blocker and its better for sure but still very heavy and slows down chrome and ie8 for me quite a bit

[Templar]

A little note on detection ratings.

I just installed Vipre 3 on my last home computers which my GF uses and our son. On both computers MSE was installed and Vipre detected 2 serious Trojans on both which I double checked as not being false positives.
This has made Vipre detect Trojans on 4 of 5 computers that had MSE installed, I'm however very surprised because MSE has been doing so well in tests.
I still think MSE is quite good and has a good balance approached overall but I tested Vipre and it did give my fileserver a noticeable boost so from what I've experienced Vipre is even lighter.

Simon

[zfactor]

weird thing. if i leave the firewall in auto mode its a LOT lighter and browsers open way faster then when in learning mode.

[Templar]

zfactor, does this happen even after you've "allowed" the browsers etc. There's no increase in speed after time?

You should post this on the Vipre beta forums

Simon

[zfactor]

not on this machine no. even after allowing it and opening it 20+ times it still took more than 10 seconds or longer to open chrome. i will post this to the forums over there later today after i play with it some more. im going to continue to see if this is in fact what is causing it. but with auto turned on its MUCH faster than in learning even opening programs like word etc. im also going to test in on another machine to see if its just the system or not.

overall i like the suite i just hate the gui. oh and the tray icon lol

[Templar]

yeah the tray icon is not serious but it's such a small thing that just can't go ignored any longer.

I like the GUI however, not bloated and rather simple despite having plenty of options. However what I really like is that Vipre is extremely light and lighter then any other AV/SS I've used.

Simon

[zfactor]

not saying any one is better im just curious templar if you have tested avast 5 yet...

[Templar]

hi Z

No need to be careful when asking about other suites, I try to stay away from the religious aspect of software.

I have not tried Avast 5 but I did use Avast free in the past.

[Triple Helix]

I like it very much I got a site license in Nov when it was for $19.95 for the year, to me there are three problems it should automatically update after boot up and the tray Icon can look alittle more professional and it's such a simple thing to make a change for the better and it needs to be Tested with the others to see how it fairs in detection and clean up!

I have no need for the firewall version as I'm still using Look'n'Stop.

TH

[dcrowe0050]

The tray icon is not a problem it is more of a preference, I disable tray icons anyway, I can't stand to look at any of them.

[NickHSunbelt]

-{ Quote: "
But they still have that Ugly Tray Icon and it's an EYE SORE Nick!!! :wacko:
TH" }-

I've looked into this and it appears the reason we didn't include the new icon in this beta release was just due to time and priority. We wanted to get as many bug fixes as we could in this release but I've been informed we should be seeing the tray icon in the next beta release (should be the RC) or in the final release.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "I've looked into this and it appears the reason we didn't include the new icon in this beta release was just due to time and priority. We wanted to get as many bug fixes as we could in this release but I've been informed we should be seeing the tray icon in the next beta release (should be the RC) or in the final release." }-

Thanks Nick for your reply and we can't wait to see what they came up with but anything would be better than it is now! ;) It's working very well in all of my VM's! :thumb:

TH

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "I've looked into this and it appears the reason we didn't include the new icon in this beta release was just due to time and priority. We wanted to get as many bug fixes as we could in this release but I've been informed we should be seeing the tray icon in the next beta release (should be the RC) or in the final release." }-

thats great news :thumb:

[Triple Helix]

VIPRE & CounterSpy 4.0 Beta 4 Release Announcement

Sunbelt Software is very pleased to announce the release of CounterSpy and VIPRE 4.0 Beta 4. This Beta 4 build is the Release Candidate, and we encourage as much testing as possible prior to the final release. The build number is 4.0.3235.

There are three products available for testing:

• VIPRE Antivirus Premium--Antivirus, Antispyware, Firewall
• VIPRE Antivirus--Antivirus + Antispyware
• CounterSpy--Antispyware

Beta Keys are supplied!

You have to join to get it http://beta.sunbelt-software.com/log...2fdefault.aspx (http://beta.sunbelt-software.com/loginlocked.aspx?FTVAR_REDIRECTURLFRM=http%3a%2f%2fbeta.sunbelt-software.com%2fdefault.aspx)

But where is the new Tray Icon Nick? :lurking:

TH

EDIT: I was told the Icon will be changed at some point in the Hotfix #1 after release! Better late then never! :thumb:

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "VIPRE & CounterSpy 4.0 Beta 4 Release Announcement

Sunbelt Software is very pleased to announce the release of CounterSpy and VIPRE 4.0 Beta 4. This Beta 4 build is the Release Candidate, and we encourage as much testing as possible prior to the final release. The build number is 4.0.3235.

There are three products available for testing:

• VIPRE Antivirus Premium--Antivirus, Antispyware, Firewall
• VIPRE Antivirus--Antivirus + Antispyware
• CounterSpy--Antispyware

Beta Keys are supplied!

You have to join to get it http://beta.sunbelt-software.com/log...2fdefault.aspx (http://beta.sunbelt-software.com/loginlocked.aspx?FTVAR_REDIRECTURLFRM=http%3a%2f%2fbeta.sunbelt-software.com%2fdefault.aspx)

But where is the new Tray Icon Nick? :lurking:

TH

EDIT: I was told the Icon will be changed at some point in the Hotfix #1 after release! Better late then never! :thumb:" }-

well i hope the tray icon isnt postponed any further...

[nikanthpromod]

Running Vipre premium beta now.
How to turn off that splash screen while opening from the system tray??
Thats very disturbing.:-\

[NickHSunbelt]

-{ Quote: "VIPRE & CounterSpy 4.0 Beta 4 Release Announcement

Sunbelt Software is very pleased to announce the release of CounterSpy and VIPRE 4.0 Beta 4. This Beta 4 build is the Release Candidate, and we encourage as much testing as possible prior to the final release. The build number is 4.0.3235.

There are three products available for testing:

• VIPRE Antivirus Premium--Antivirus, Antispyware, Firewall
• VIPRE Antivirus--Antivirus + Antispyware
• CounterSpy--Antispyware

Beta Keys are supplied!

You have to join to get it http://beta.sunbelt-software.com/log...2fdefault.aspx (http://beta.sunbelt-software.com/loginlocked.aspx?FTVAR_REDIRECTURLFRM=http%3a%2f%2fbeta.sunbelt-software.com%2fdefault.aspx)

But where is the new Tray Icon Nick? :lurking:

TH

EDIT: I was told the Icon will be changed at some point in the Hotfix #1 after release! Better late then never! :thumb:" }-

Yes, this unfortunately got pushed to a lower priority as we had a few bugs we needed to get fixed before the RC and official release. Luckily, hotfix 1 will likely be released not too long after the official release with a few extra features we've seen requested often.


-{ Quote: "Running Vipre premium beta now.
How to turn off that splash screen while opening from the system tray??
Thats very disturbing." }-

Unfortunately, there is currently no way to disable the splash screen. I believe this option has already been added as a feature request.

[eBBox]

-{ Quote: "Yes, this unfortunately got pushed to a lower priority as we had a few bugs we needed to get fixed before the RC and official release. Luckily, hotfix 1 will likely be released not too long after the official release with a few extra features we've seen requested often.." }-

Why plan to release a hotfix 1 already. To me it sounds better to use a month more and release a better working product. When I read this, I get the feeling that U plan to release a 89% working product just to release it, If U get what i mean ;)...

[NickHSunbelt]

-{ Quote: "Why plan to release a hotfix 1 already. To me it sounds better to use a month more and release a better working product. When I read this, I get the feeling that U plan to release a 89% working product just to release it, If U get what i mean ;)..." }-

We're actually very happy with how 4.0 has turned out. It's a very solid product. We should probably not use a name like hotfix 1 as it may imply it's being released just to fix something. In actuality, we are planning on adding some additional feature in the next few software updates that we have seen a lot of demand for. We wanted to get a stable release out mostly for our customers who want to use the firewall on Windows 7 and 64 bit systems but we also have several features we still want to implement in the coming updates.

[eBBox]

-{ Quote: "We're actually very happy with how 4.0 has turned out. It's a very solid product. We should probably not use a name like hotfix 1 as it may imply it's being released just to fix something. In actuality, we are planning on adding some additional feature in the next few software updates that we have seen a lot of demand for. We wanted to get a stable release out mostly for our customers who want to use the firewall on Windows 7 and 64 bit systems but we also have several features we still want to implement in the coming updates." }-

Im glad to hear that :) Been following the development and are looking forward for the final release! Btw. I agree about the hotfix ;)

[Ibrad]

NichHSunbelt do you know if the ability to decide the location where Vipre creates its temp files will make it into Vipre 4?

[NickHSunbelt]

Ibrad,

This option won't be included in VIPRE 4.0. It will still use the temporary folder on the drive that Windows is installed on.

[Triple Helix]

VIPRE & CounterSpy 4.0 Release Candidate 2

There are three products available for testing:

The build number is 4.0.3248.

• VIPRE Antivirus Premium--Antivirus, Antispyware, Firewall
• VIPRE Antivirus--Antivirus + Antispyware
• CounterSpy--Antispyware

Beta Keys are supplied!

You have to join to get it http://beta.sunbelt-software.com/log...2fdefault.aspx (http://beta.sunbelt-software.com/loginlocked.aspx?FTVAR_REDIRECTURLFRM=http%3a%2f%2fbeta.sunbelt-software.com%2fdefault.aspx)

TH

[fblais]

Registered the current version a few days ago and like it very much.
I use an old P3-1000 and Vipre runs very light with no slowdowns.

Question #1: do you plan to add other languages with version 4? (my primary language is french, and even your Firewall has localizations already)

Question#2: the database updates are not as frequent as other products. Should I worry about that?...

Thanks again!

Best regards,
François

[Ibrad]

More frequent database updates are planned to come soon if I remember correctly.

[m0unds]

-{ Quote: "More frequent database updates are planned to come soon if I remember correctly." }-

there are a couple references to hourly updates starting "within a couple of weeks" on the official sunbelt forums. posts by both nick and alex. the last one i found was 2/19/2010.

[NoIos]

-{ Quote: "More frequent database updates are planned to come soon if I remember correctly." }-

I think that more frequent updates are a fact already. I have noticed Vipre update twice everyday...these 2 last days.

[Securon]

Good Evening ! just updated Vipre to the final Release Candidate 2 the product goes officially on release as of Tuesday March 2nd. The info was found on Sunbelt's Vipre web forum. There still isn't final info on it's pricing,I suppose everything will be revealed Tuesday. The product itself downloaded as smooth as silk. I'm interested in Vipre 4 Premium with the newly developed firewall. So far so good,something to look forward too. Sincerely...Securon

[ViVek]

i enabled Hips in vipre 4 premium but i dont understand how this hips works,there are ant popup

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "i enabled Hips in vipre 4 premium but i dont understand how this hips works,there are ant popup" }-

well in the current Vipre stable version thers an option of what areas u want it to monitor. not sure if v4 is the same.

[ViVek]

http://www.imagebam.com/image/5ed63b70110467
i set now to allow and notify but nothing happens..........dont understand that

[NickHSunbelt]

-{ Quote: "Question #1: do you plan to add other languages with version 4? (my primary language is french, and even your Firewall has localizations already)" }-

I don't believe we currently have it available in other languages.

-{ Quote: "I think that more frequent updates are a fact already. I have noticed Vipre update twice everyday...these 2 last days." }-


Yes, we have already implemented the new update system. You'll notice more frequent definitions updates from VIPRE from now on. We now have the ability to do multiple definitions updates per hour if necessary.

-{ Quote: " http://www.imagebam.com/image/5ed63b70110467
i set now to allow and notify but nothing happens..........dont understand that" }-

The HIPS in VIPRE Premium would only be monitoring for code injection. If nothing is injecting code then you shouldn't expect a pop up.

[NoIos]

Nick thank you for all the infos. I have to confirm that Vipre is a great product and I wish you the best with the new version and all the rest of the changes. Do you have any infos if Comodo will treat better the new Vipre version?
Thank you.

[whitedragon551]

Im seriously considering running Vipre and the Firewall, but I havent seen any detection testing. When will Vipre get put into the Matousec FW test and AV Comparatives?

[ViVek]

-{ Quote: "

The HIPS in VIPRE Premium would only be monitoring for code injection. If nothing is injecting code then you shouldn't expect a pop up." }-
Thanx:):):)

[NickHSunbelt]

-{ Quote: "Nick thank you for all the infos. I have to confirm that Vipre is a great product and I wish you the best with the new version and all the rest of the changes. Do you have any infos if Comodo will treat better the new Vipre version?
Thank you." }-

I've actually just been doing some testing with this. In version 3.1 of VIPRE, the Defense+ feature from COMODO would cause issues because of the way it hooked into running processes. Because we have done a lot of process hardening in VIPRE 4.0, I don't believe this is a problem any longer. Unfortunately, I have seen some issues where COMODO seems to not be working correctly.

I have only tested this on a single system running XP SP3. When VIPRE was installed alongside COMODO, the COMODO Application Agent appears to be unable to start successfully. After a while I received an error on the Summary page and the option to run a diagnostics. After running the diagnostics, the issue seems to have been resolved.

It does appear there is some incompatibility here although there may be workarounds to issues. It may also be a good idea to add COMODO's program files to VIPRE's Always Allowed list. We'll have to do some further testing to determine what kinds of conflicts you may run into when running both programs. Of course you can always just use the firewall in VIPRE Premium. :)



-{ Quote: "Im seriously considering running Vipre and the Firewall, but I havent seen any detection testing. When will Vipre get put into the Matousec FW test and AV Comparatives?" }-

I unfortunately don't have much information on this. Working in support I don't have much to do with this sort of thing. I know there has been a lot of talk about comparative testing recently but I don't have any specifics. I do know that our recent changes to our update process have helped to improve our detection rates, especially on rogue security programs. I also know that development did a lot of work making sure we didn't have any problems passing any of the leak tests and such that are available.

[vijayind]

Hi Nick,
I see Vipre 4 is out. What is the procedure to upgrade from Vipre+SPF to Vipre Premium 4 ?
Do I just download and allow it to upgrade the older components ?

[Pain of Salvation]

From VIPRE FAQ:

"If you are running another antivirus product or firewall, DO NOT enable VIPRE's Active Protection. Doing so may result in significant performance issues. Uninstall other antivirus products and firewalls before you install VIPRE Antivirus Premium."

Will I have any problems if I run Vipre with Prevx?

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "

Will I have any problems if I run Vipre with Prevx?" }-

No I do in my VM's without issues! But I was just using VIPRE Antivirus without Firewall ???

TH

[NickHSunbelt]

-{ Quote: "Hi Nick,
I see Vipre 4 is out. What is the procedure to upgrade from Vipre+SPF to Vipre Premium 4 ?
Do I just download and allow it to upgrade the older components ?" }-


We'll have a page available on our website shortly which will allow you to upgrade your current VIPRE and SPF keys to a VIPRE Premium key. We have the download available on our website but we actually haven't started sending out the automatic updates yet. The automatic updates will be started once we have finished making the changes on our site which will be necessary to upgrade your key. We hope to have this completed by the end of the day.

[Triple Helix]

Sunbelt Software Announces Major Upgrades to its VIPRE and CounterSpy Product Lines

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/sunbelt-software-announces-major-upgrades-to-its-vipre-and-counterspy-product-lines-85952507.html

Sunbelt Software Upgrades VIPRE, Announces New VIPRE Antivirus Premium

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/sunbelt-software-upgrades-vipre-announces-new-vipre-antivirus-premium-85952637.html


TH

[ViVek]

my Vipre Fw settings
http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/44970/2010_03_03_073840_gtRW6m.jpg

I set Hips to "block and notify" ,of course ih hips block a program that i trust i will add this program to "Exceptions"
Thishis is really"quiet

I disabled Web filterin because it makes problems with comments on my blog,and pictures on few sites(when using Fire fox)

really like this new Vipre


Vipre detects keyloggers?

[lonelywolf]

It would be great to see Vipre Premium on a Matousec test now.

[TheIgster]

-{ Quote: "It would be great to see Vipre Premium on a Matousec test now." }-

Would be great to see Vipre included in AV Comparative tests as well, but that hasn't happened yet either.

[whitedragon551]

-{ Quote: "It would be great to see Vipre Premium on a Matousec test now." }-

Their user base would grow alot if they would just buckle down and get into Matousec and AVC.

[Triple Helix]

Hey Nick can you comment on these Questions of VIPRE & VIPRE Premium being tested by third parties?

TH

[NickHSunbelt]

I mentioned ten or eleven posts back, I unfortunately don't have much information on the comparative testing. I work in a completely different department than the people who deal with that. I'll see if I can get any further information on this.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "I mentioned ten or eleven posts back, I unfortunately don't have much information on the comparative testing. I work in a completely different department than the people who deal with that. I'll see if I can get any further information on this." }-

That would be nice Thank You! Or get someone from that Dept to make a comment here for then we can all find out! Maybe Mike (Inspector Clouseau) can come by and say hi to us? :thumb:

Regards,

TH

[NickHSunbelt]

I had mentioned there had been a lot of talk around here recently about the comparative testing. As I'd suspected, you should see us included in the www.av-comparatives.org testing very soon. Apparently we had been waiting for the 4.0 release. We'll also still be included in the next VB100 as well as some other tests.

[firzen771]

so in the final version has that tray icon been changed?

[NickHSunbelt]

This unfortunately wasn't able to make it into this release. We tried to get it in but we had too many other high priority features and bug fixes that needed to be implemented. I spoke to the product manager about this and he told me it should be included in hotfix1 which is already being worked on. This update should include some improvements and new features although I don't have the specifics on what exactly is going to be included in this. We still have a lot of things we want to include in the product which we weren't able to get into the first 4.0 release. You should see quite a few nice features added in the next few updates.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "This unfortunately wasn't able to make it into this release. We tried to get it in but we had too many other high priority features and bug fixes that needed to be implemented. I spoke to the product manager about this and he told me it should be included in hotfix1 which is already being worked on. This update should include some improvements and new features although I don't have the specifics on what exactly is going to be included in this. We still have a lot of things we want to include in the product which we weren't able to get into the first 4.0 release. You should see quite a few nice features added in the next few updates." }-

is ther an ETA on hotfix1?

[NickHSunbelt]

We're planning to have this out sometime in April but this can always change depending on how testing of the beta release of this hotfix goes and if there are additional features we decide should be added before releasing the update.

[whitedragon551]

You guys should implement a theme type package such as what KAV and KIS has. As well as an option to disable the splash screen.

[m0unds]

Can't really say I understand why people make the icon into such a big deal. If the product works as advertised, who cares if the icon sucks? The larger png icon looks great..the tray icon is like 16x16 pixels and is hardly visible to begin with...

that being said, i got a temporary key to tide me over til i can upgrade my home site license (hope that capability is added to sunbelt's site sometime soon...) and i agree with the feature request to disable the splash screen, although it doesn't bother me in the slightest, it'd be nice to be able to turn it off.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Can't really say I understand why people make the icon into such a big deal. If the product works as advertised, who cares if the icon sucks? The larger png icon looks great..the tray icon is like 16x16 pixels and is hardly visible to begin with...

that being said, i got a temporary key to tide me over til i can upgrade my home site license (hope that capability is added to sunbelt's site sometime soon...) and i agree with the feature request to disable the splash screen, although it doesn't bother me in the slightest, it'd be nice to be able to turn it off." }-

Because some of us would like a nicer looking Icon and it will be done ;D I have suggested something like the Desktop Icon but we will have to wait and see what they come up with!

TH

[NoIos]

-{ Quote: "Because some of us would like a nicer looking Icon and it will be done ;D I have suggested something like the Desktop Icon but we will have to wait and see what they come up with!

TH" }-

Actually I like the current icon. It contains the V from Vipre. But also reminds the lambda of the Spartans...inverted, so if you have some imagination and historical knowledge...that simple Vipre icon...becomes more attractive. ;D

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Actually I like the current icon. It contains the V from Vipre. But also reminds the lambda of the Spartans...inverted, so if you have some imagination and historical knowledge...that simple Vipre icon...becomes more attractive. ;D" }-

To each our own Opinion ;) I don't like it and never will!

TH

[qpok]

From my personal viewpoint, I can't understand the discussion that revolves around the tray icon (well, I have it in the "Only show notifications" state anyway). The current icon is clear and, above all, intuitive when it comes to the program state (e.g. active protection enabled, active protection disabled etc).

I'd be much happier to see that resources are spent on new malware detection or prevention innovations than implementing themes or alternative icon sets. On a similar note, it's great to see the more frequent malware definition updates in action!

[firzen771]

well i dont even consider the effort needed in creating a half decent icon to be a very high resource using process...and the reason is, if thers many other equally as good or better alternative, why settle for one that didnt take the effort to polish their product AND be effective? ther no point in my going with Vipre in that situation (yes i know they are adding the icon, im just saying thats the train of though im explaining)

[NickHSunbelt]

I believe a new icon was actually finalized and would be ready to be sent out but the main issue is changing a lot of documentation and other internal tasks here that would need to be done before this was approved for a release. Creating the icon is simple but there is a lot more to it than just throwing the icon into the product. Just for starters, there is a lot of changes that would need to be made to the help documentation. We unfortunately just did not have the resources to spare on the icon as this update to 4.0 was the biggest update we've had since the release of VIPRE. We are hoping to get this in the next release as we'll likely have more resources to put into features such as this and others that customers have requested.

[tanstaafl]

I have a question about licensing...

We use ESET currently - 65 PCs - and I am seriously considering a change to VIPRE, for 2 reasons - their support is terrible, and ESET constantly allows these damn Rogue Security Apps to get through (just had to clean another one yesterday). I don't expect anything to be perfect, but this is ridiculous.

Also, they had a lot of serious issues with v3 *and* v4 on servers that took a long time to get resolved - and some issues are *still* not resolved.

But, one thing I really, really like about their licensing is that if you have a current license, you can use any version of their product you want. If a new major version is released, your current license allows you to download and use it - or not.

What is Sunbelts licensing policy in this regard?

[tanstaafl]

I have another question about Microsofts recommendations for files/directories that should be exempted from realtime AV/security scanners.

Microsoft has very specific recommendations for certain files and folders that should be exempted from real-time scanning by AV and other security software, which vary from Windows version (XP, Vista, 7) and even more for Servers:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822158

Does VIPRE hard-code these files/directories as exempt from scanning? Or are we expected to manually exempt these locations ourselves (which is another thing that bugs me about ESET)?

[whitedragon551]

-{ Quote: "I have a question about licensing...

We use ESET currently - 65 PCs - and I am seriously considering a change to VIPRE, for 2 reasons - their support is terrible, and ESET constantly allows these damn Rogue Security Apps to get through (just had to clean another one yesterday). I don't expect anything to be perfect, but this is ridiculous.

Also, they had a lot of serious issues with v3 *and* v4 on servers that took a long time to get resolved - and some issues are *still* not resolved.

But, one thing I really, really like about their licensing is that if you have a current license, you can use any version of their product you want. If a new major version is released, your current license allows you to download and use it - or not.

What is Sunbelts licensing policy in this regard?" }-

In ESET there are settings that you have to change to get the best protection. Ive forgotten what setting its called, but I got a screenshot from their manual.

http://lookpic.com/i/629/pPFWfGU6.jpeg

You have to go into everything with a threatsense engine parameter and put a check in usually 2 places. Usually there is the very bottom item missing on the first tab and the second tab has 1 item unchecked as well. Go in and check those for realtime system protection, advanced system protection, document protection, email protection, and web access protection and you should be good to go.

[NickHSunbelt]

-{ Quote: "I have a question about licensing...

We use ESET currently - 65 PCs - and I am seriously considering a change to VIPRE, for 2 reasons - their support is terrible, and ESET constantly allows these damn Rogue Security Apps to get through (just had to clean another one yesterday). I don't expect anything to be perfect, but this is ridiculous.

Also, they had a lot of serious issues with v3 *and* v4 on servers that took a long time to get resolved - and some issues are *still* not resolved.

But, one thing I really, really like about their licensing is that if you have a current license, you can use any version of their product you want. If a new major version is released, your current license allows you to download and use it - or not.

What is Sunbelts licensing policy in this regard?" }-

Our licenses do allow you to use any version of our software you wish. This is actually because all of our updates are free. When we come out with a new version of the software, you don't need to buy a new license, your current license will work with any version. The only exception to this would be between VIPRE and VIPRE Premium which also includes a firewall.


-{ Quote: "I have another question about Microsofts recommendations for files/directories that should be exempted from realtime AV/security scanners.

Microsoft has very specific recommendations for certain files and folders that should be exempted from real-time scanning by AV and other security software, which vary from Windows version (XP, Vista, 7) and even more for Servers:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822158

Does VIPRE hard-code these files/directories as exempt from scanning? Or are we expected to manually exempt these locations ourselves (which is another thing that bugs me about ESET)?" }-

This I'm actually not too sure about. I work with the consumer version of our product and it sounds like you'd be looking for the Enterprise version. I'd suggest posting this question over on our Support forums in the Enterprise section here:

http://supportforums.sunbeltsoftware.com/categories.aspx?catid=27&entercat=y

They'll be able to better answer any questions about the Enterprise product.

[kasperking]

-{ Quote: "Our licenses do allow you to use any version of our software you wish. " }-
hi....does this mean that a vipre premium license can be used in Sunbelt Personal Firewall ?

[NickHSunbelt]

Kasperking,

No, I mean a license for VIPRE would work for any version of VIPRE aside from VIPRE Premium which is considered a different product because it also includes the firewall. A license for SPF would work for any version of SPF.

Basically, a license for a product would work for any version of that product. A license for one product would not work in other products.

[kasperking]

hmmm...okay thanks for the info.....for a moment i thought sunbelt had a remarkably flexible license policy :P

[tanstaafl]

-{ Quote: "In ESET there are settings that you have to change to get the best protection. Ive forgotten what setting its called, but I got a screenshot from their manual." }-
I know - we've been using their s/w for 5+ years so I'm *very* familiar with it. In fact, I use the equivalent of Blackspears settings. His settings were for the 2.X series, 3.X and 4.X are much more secure out of the box, but there are still a few tweaks - like setting cleaning to strict - that I apply to the later versions.

[tanstaafl]

-{ Quote: "Our licenses do allow you to use any version of our software you wish. This is actually because all of our updates are free. When we come out with a new version of the software, you don't need to buy a new license, your current license will work with any version. The only exception to this would be between VIPRE and VIPRE Premium which also includes a firewall." }-
Perfect answer, Nick - almost had to be, but I wanted to make sure.

Also - yes, I could have picked up the phone and called the Sales Rep I've been working with, but I wanted to test out the support forums here - and happy to say you passed with flying colors.

:)

[tanstaafl]

-{ Quote: "-{ Quote: "Microsoft has very specific recommendations for certain files and folders that should be exempted from real-time scanning by AV and other security software, which vary from Windows version (XP, Vista, 7) and even more for Servers:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822158

Does VIPRE hard-code these files/directories as exempt from scanning? Or are we expected to manually exempt these locations ourselves (which is another thing that bugs me about ESET)?" }-
This I'm actually not too sure about. I work with the consumer version of our product and it sounds like you'd be looking for the Enterprise version. I'd suggest posting this question over on our Support forums in the Enterprise section here:" }-
Heh - thanks again for the reply Nick, but instead, I decided to peruse the QuickStart guide I just downloaded instead (getting ready to install the trial), and answered my own question - no.

I'll be opening up a support issue about this, because, personally, I see absolutely *zero* reason why these should not be hard-coded exemptions - or, at a bare minimum, checkbox options - ie, "[ ] Exempt all files/folders recommended by Microsoft for this OS". For the life of me, I don't see why this would be left to the user, because there is just way too much room for error.

With ESET, they didn't even support Environment variables (like %WINDIR% or %SYSTEMROOT%) when defining these, and there were 3 technicians in the ESET section of these forums who couldn't decide whether or not UNC paths were supported when defining these exclusions - turns out they aren't, and using UNC paths was causing a lot of problems for anyone who had used them.

[tanstaafl]

-{ Quote: "Our licenses do allow you to use any version of our This I'm actually not too sure about. I work with the consumer version of our product and it sounds like you'd be looking for the Enterprise version." }-
Oh - and actually, this would apply to the consumer version as well.

These exclusions recommended by microsoft apply to *all* versions of Windows. Its just that the server versions (2000, 2003 and 2008/R2) have *additional* files/folders that also need to be excluded, in addition to the ones that the workstation versions (XP Pro, Vista and 7) need.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "I believe a new icon was actually finalized and would be ready to be sent out but the main issue is changing a lot of documentation and other internal tasks here that would need to be done before this was approved for a release. Creating the icon is simple but there is a lot more to it than just throwing the icon into the product. Just for starters, there is a lot of changes that would need to be made to the help documentation. We unfortunately just did not have the resources to spare on the icon as this update to 4.0 was the biggest update we've had since the release of VIPRE. We are hoping to get this in the next release as we'll likely have more resources to put into features such as this and others that customers have requested." }-

Hi Nick!

Just wondering if you have any news on the new Tray Icon for Version 4? I just didn't want you to forget! ;D

TH

[whitedragon551]

-{ Quote: "Hi Nick!

Just wondering if you have any news on the new Tray Icon for Version 4? I just didn't want you to forget! ;D

TH" }-

I think passing VB100 would be a better first step.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "I think passing VB100 would be a better first step." }-

They are 1 and 1 :P

TH

[whitedragon551]

-{ Quote: "They are 1 and 1 :P
TH" }-

They failed the newest test after all the hype around the v4 release coming up. Not to mention 50% is not good.

Dont get me wrong I loved the suite, but the FW just didnt work for me and forced me to move on to something else.

[codylucas16]

Considering it failed because of a false positive, it's good enough in my book.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "They failed the newest test after all the hype around the v4 release coming up. Not to mention 50% is not good." }-

Well ask some questions to Nick to see why!

TH

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "
Dont get me wrong I loved the suite, but the FW just didnt work for me and forced me to move on to something else." }-

I never used the suite just VIPRE AV 4 with Prevx on all of my VM's and it works fine on them!

TH

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Considering it failed because of a false positive, it's good enough in my book." }-

Agreed! ;)

TH

[m0unds]

-{ Quote: "Considering it failed because of a false positive, it's good enough in my book." }-

same here. if it failed because of missed detections or because it blew up their office, then i'd see it as a problem. every product has false positives.

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "same here. if it failed because of missed detections or because it blew up their office, then i'd see it as a problem. every product has false positives." }-

True and no AV is 100% that's why most of us use the layered approach :thumb:

TH

[darthsideous666]

-{ Quote: "They failed the newest test after all the hype around the v4 release coming up. Not to mention 50% is not good.

Dont get me wrong I loved the suite, but the FW just didnt work for me and forced me to move on to something else." }-

I too really liked the suite and did not have any real issues with the AV but I recently uninstalled the suite due to the firewall issues as well.:'(

Hopefully the functionality of the firewall will improve and the issues that I experienced will be resolved and I can utilize the product again in the near future!

[ronjor]

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