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acr1965
October 24th, 2009, 09:24 PM
What would be the most likely scenario that would make you drop a particular antivirus? If you choose "other" please explain.

ThunderZ
October 24th, 2009, 09:36 PM
No option for "Any\All of the above".

Or is that "Other"?

acr1965
October 24th, 2009, 09:37 PM
The poll is to see what of the options would most likely drop an av first. What of the options will you tolerate the least? Other is if there is something that would make you immediately drop an av that is not listed.

RSpanky
October 24th, 2009, 10:59 PM
Trying another security strategy (i.e. Virtualization with no AV)

Page42
October 24th, 2009, 11:11 PM
Voted 'Other'... If I grew to distrust the developer.

acr1965
October 24th, 2009, 11:21 PM
-{ Quote: "Voted 'Other'... If I grew to distrust the developer." }-
what do you mean by that? As if the product may become abandoned ware or sold out to another company with no further upgrades/updates for current license holders?

beethoven
October 24th, 2009, 11:45 PM
I side with ThunderZ - most if not all of the options are likely to make me drop an AV. If pushed for really one answer only I probably would go for "conflicts with other software I cannot do without " or company commits social wrong (though that would be a matter of evidence not just someone alleging behaviour).

the Tester
October 24th, 2009, 11:47 PM
My pet peeve is configurability.

noone_particular
October 25th, 2009, 12:23 AM
The poll should allow multiple selections, so I voted "other". I stopped using AVs a long time ago, primarily for these reasons, in order:
Compatibility issues, both software and OS.
Too heavy on resources.
Too many missed detections.
No off switch. No manual startup option.
Either not configurable enough or doesn't perform as configured, ie keeps detecting something it was instructed to ignore.
False positives, especially on my batch files.
Switched security policies from default-permit with AV to default-deny with SSM.

overangry
October 25th, 2009, 12:52 AM
-{ Quote: "The poll should allow multiple selections, so I voted "other"." }-
Agree

Pedro
October 25th, 2009, 12:54 AM
-{ Quote: "The poll is to see what of the options would most likely drop an av first. What of the options will you tolerate the least? Other is if there is something that would make you immediately drop an av that is not listed." }-
Going with this explanation, i voted "conflicts with programs you won't part with", which for me would include "too resource heavy" ( = incompatible with using a computer).

Creer
October 25th, 2009, 07:10 AM
Outdated mechanisms - based on blacklists, plus many FP, plus too resource heavy, plus does not stop a malware infection... etc etc

blacknight
October 25th, 2009, 07:27 AM
" conflicts with programs you won't part with "

Osaban
October 25th, 2009, 08:53 AM
I go by 2 criteria with AVs:
1) Impact on my system (most important issue)
2) Detection percentage

acr1965
October 25th, 2009, 02:16 PM
There are a couple other optional answers I should have included- poor detection ability/ malware test result shows unacceptable performance ability / product becomes abandon ware / don't like the GUI / etc

The problem with multiple answers or "all the above" is that most people would choose "all the above". I am wanting to know if there is any particular reason that stands out above others as a reason people drop an av.

Pinga
October 25th, 2009, 06:42 PM
I don't know what you want to achieve with this poll, but whatever it is, its methodology seems inadequate to me. People can only vote for one 'reason', in reality it will likely be a combination of factors that will make somebody consider an alternative. You'd also need to weigh these reasons somehow; i.e. becoming infected despite supposedly adequate protection is more likely to trigger immediate action than merely finding a product 'difficult to understand'.

SammyJack
October 25th, 2009, 06:55 PM
"Other",as chronic update difficulty not listed.
Also,moved away from Anti-Virus, towards virtualization, due to the above update difficulty.

acr1965
October 26th, 2009, 08:20 AM
-{ Quote: "You'd also need to weigh these reasons somehow; i.e. becoming infected despite supposedly adequate protection is more likely to trigger immediate action than merely finding a product 'difficult to understand'." }-

That's why you can vote for only one - it's easier to weigh the reasons as a group.

Page42
October 26th, 2009, 04:38 PM
-{ Quote: "what do you mean by that? As if the product may become abandoned ware or sold out to another company with no further upgrades/updates for current license holders?" }-
No, although that is a case that I had not considered... sold out to another company... and I did actually quit using a security app that I once swore by when there was strangeness surrounding the transition.

When I said, "If I grew to distrust the developer", what I meant was flat out growing to not trust the owner of the company. If, for example, program users who are forum members begin to ask the developer questions about the program that he then does not adequately answer, his credibility begins to suffer. If, for example, program users who are forum members begin to question some of the developer's advertising practices, and his responses are hardly what I would expect in the way of professionalism and proficiency in dealing with the public, his credibility suffers some more. Soon I begin to wonder about the integrity of the individual and lose the relative comfort that we all must have when we install security applications. First thing you know, the writing is on the wall, and the only thing left to do is remove the program from my machines and make sure I have no further dealings with the company.

Pedro
October 26th, 2009, 07:28 PM
Heh, happened to me too.. i wonder..

funkydude
October 26th, 2009, 07:33 PM
Too many FPs/terrible support attitude.

Keyboard_Commando
October 27th, 2009, 07:03 AM
Voted for - resource heavy - as a reason to drop ... but, I recently dropped Avira because I had problems with updates.

rdsu
October 27th, 2009, 07:15 AM
Other: I don't need "File System Shield"...

progress
November 3rd, 2009, 12:18 AM
-{ Quote: "Voted for - resource heavy - as a reason to drop ... but, I recently dropped Avira because I had problems with updates." }-

There's nothing more to be said :thumb:

funkydude
November 3rd, 2009, 02:58 AM
-{ Quote: "There's nothing more to be said :thumb:" }-

Heh, you really will take any chance to bash Avira and promote AVG huh :P complete stubbornness ^^

ASpace
November 3rd, 2009, 10:32 AM
-{ Quote: "The poll should allow multiple selections" }-

:thumb:

If/When the program gets too heavy on resourses
when it starts to miss lots of samples (more compared to other AVs)
when the Virus , Partners or Support team are becoming slow or when it seems they have gone on quite a long holiday
when the AV vendor (the company) has no strategy for future development and it seems to be going nowhere , when there is no innovation
when there seems to be lots of small issues :



this is when I change antivirus and the AV company

progress
November 3rd, 2009, 12:43 PM
-{ Quote: "Heh, you really will take any chance to bash Avira and promote AVG huh :P" }-

I bash an AV if it doesn't work flawlessly :-[ Where do I promote AVG? ::)

funkydude
November 3rd, 2009, 01:15 PM
-{ Quote: " Where do I promote AVG? ::) " }-

Post history my friend.

funkydude
November 3rd, 2009, 01:16 PM
-{ Quote: "

when the AV vendor (the company) has no strategy for future development and it seems to be going nowhere , when there is no innovation
" }-

I really support this idea, a future strategy/plan tends to show the people working there enjoy what they are doing, they want the product to evolve and succeed, whether it is for money or protecting the user, they are still enthusiastic in their creation.

mercurie
November 5th, 2009, 05:45 PM
Does not stop malware infection....one of it's main functions. Heavy on resources is another big no, no too. Really there were a lot of reasons there to move on, but number one would be lack of preventing malware.

korben
November 7th, 2009, 09:45 AM
auto update issues e.g. avira free

demonon
November 7th, 2009, 10:34 AM
I stopped using AV's and the main reason is that they use too much resources.
Furthermore, I think I can decide whether a file is safe or not.
And if I really want to play around, I still have an option of virtualisation or backing up an image.

subhrobhandari
November 15th, 2009, 11:41 PM
does not stop a malware infection.

cortez
November 16th, 2009, 11:58 PM
If the AV cannot be activated on multiple partitions then this is the "Kiss of Death" as far as using it.

xxJackxx
November 20th, 2009, 01:41 PM
I voted other as I have dropped 3 products this year for the same reason. Just plain too buggy to use. BSODs, blocked network connections when they shouldn't, GUI crashes, etc. I am tired of all of the poorly written software that cause me more problems than they solve. Every time they start to get it stable and working somewhat well it is time for next year's version and it starts all over again. I feel like a permanent beta tester for these companies. >:(

Mr.PC
June 20th, 2010, 05:35 AM
Does not stop a malware infection.

xandros
September 7th, 2010, 01:55 PM
i like light very light on my computer, and i like it never slow the internet , i like it to be good detection and find any virus in my computer , thats why i use comodo internet security now