DirectX 11 Goes Mainstream with ATI Radeon HD 5770 & 5750 Launch

[JRViejo]

{QUOTE-> With the Windows 7 launch a little over a week away, ATI is preparing to serve the mainstream performance market by introducing two new cards. The Radeon HD 5770 and the Radeon HD 5750 with 1GB of GDDR5 will be introduced at $159 and $129 respectively. A 512MB Radeon HD 5750 version will also be introduced at $109. All cards in the Radeon 5700 series will have two DVI outputs, a HDMI output, and a DisplayPort output. Up to three monitors can be driven at the same time using a single card. <-QUOTE}
DailyTech Article (http://www.dailytech.com/DirectX+11+Goes+Mainstream+with+ATI+Radeon+HD+5770++5750+Launch/article16485.htm)

[TechOutsider]

So much for those that brought a 4770.

[DOSawaits]

Anhd those who waited years before finally buying a 4890 a month ago ! :(

[TechOutsider]

I remember when the 4890 was 500. Not even 200 now.

[JRViejo]

{QUOTE-> AMD’s Radeon HD 5970 takes the performance crown, and now offers DirectX 11 GPUs top to bottom.

You can forgive AMD for stealing a line from Nvidia’s playbook. From the name and marketing materials, it’s not obvious that this card is a dual GPU card. One AMD chart even refers to the card as the “ATI Radeon HD 5970 GPU,” much like Nvidia’s 295 GTX is a dual GPU card that’s sold as if it were a normal graphics card. <-QUOTE}
ATI Radeon HD 5970: The Undisputed Performance Champ (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/ati_radeon_hd_5970_undisputed_performance_champ) by Loyd Case & Gordon Mah Ung

[Keyboard_Commando]

I got an email today from the place where I buy my PC parts saying they have limited supplies of 5970's @ £538.99 :o Insane prices. I definitely won't be keeping up with the Joneses.

The switch around in GPU card making is welcomed! - ATI currently being #1. Not that long ago they were headed for the scrapheap.

[NoIos]

I would wait till Nvidia brings to the stores the Fermi cards. Then we'll see better prices for all the ATI cards again and we'll have two new generations of hardware to compare and decide.

[YeOldeStonecat]

It's incredible how much video power you get for such a good price these days. Considering a 5770 myself...for well under 200 bucks that's a lot of performance. Even the lesser 5750 for a little over 100.

These days you can build an awesome gaming computer for well under a thousand bucks if you do it yourself.

Those complaining of prices....I suppose don't remember back in the early Pentium days, when you'd build a gaming computer that would easily cost over 4,000.00...even past 6 or 8 thousand dollars if you went with multiple Voodoo boards and a 17" CRT. Back in the Pentium and Pentium II days..even early Pentium III days...there really wasn't much in the offerings of mid-range graphics cards under 200 bucks. You either had old crummy ones, or had to spend over 300 bucks for a decent one.

[JRViejo]

{QUOTE-> AMD's newest HD 5970 is the fastest videocard on the planet, and as it turns out, it's also the hardest to find (http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/16514/1/). And not just in the U.S. either, the card has been equally elusive in the EU. <-QUOTE}
Stoked about AMD's HD 5970? Good Luck Finding One in Stock (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/stoked_about_amds_hd_5970_good_luck_finding_one_stock) by Paul Lilly.

[JRViejo]

{QUOTE-> Don't have $150+ to spend on a DirectX 11 videocard? No problem - AMD today unveiled (http://www.amd.com/us/press-releases/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-5670-jan-13-2010.aspx) its entry-level Radeon HD 5670 graphics card, which the chip maker intends to position in the sub-$100 sector. <-QUOTE}
AMD Adds Sub-$100 Radeon HD 5670 to Graphics Lineup (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/amd_adds_sub100_radeon_hd_5670_graphics_lineup) by Paul Lilly.

[dw426]

{QUOTE-> AMD Adds Sub-$100 Radeon HD 5670 to Graphics Lineup (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/amd_adds_sub100_radeon_hd_5670_graphics_lineup) by Paul Lilly. <-QUOTE}

It's quite likely the card I'll be sticking in my new system.

[JRViejo]

{QUOTE-> It's quite likely the card I'll be sticking in my new system. <-QUOTE}
dw426, to be sure, check the ATI Radeon™ HD 5670 System Requirements (http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-5000/ati-radeon-hd-5670-overview/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-5670-system-requirements.aspx), especially the PSU recommendation.

[dw426]

{QUOTE-> dw426, to be sure, check the ATI Radeon™ HD 5670 System Requirements (http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-5000/ati-radeon-hd-5670-overview/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-5670-system-requirements.aspx), especially the PSU recommendation. <-QUOTE}

I'm not too likely to get anything above a 300w PSU in a system bought from a manufacturer (I don't intend to spend more than 650 bucks), but luckily I know how to install a new one :)

[YeOldeStonecat]

For XMas I built the boy a new gaming system, quadcore, 4 gigs RAM, WD Black Edition hard drive, and a Sapphire 5770 video card.

This card whats a minimum 450 watt power supply...the important thing to look at with higher end video cards is how many amps are able to be sustained on the 12v+ rail....you want a power supply which can pump mimimum 14 amps on this rail.

The 5770 is awesome, Newegg has it for $165 bucks.
DX games are looking incredible, he's been playing that car rally racing game....Dirt2. It's jaw dropping in graphics, one of the early DX11 games.

[ance]

{QUOTE-> It's jaw dropping in graphics, one of the early DX11 games. <-QUOTE}

I assume it's the only game which supports DX11 now? :doubt:

[tgell]

{QUOTE-> This card whats a minimum 450 watt power supply...the important thing to look at with higher end video cards is how many volts are able to be sustained on the 12v+ rail....you want a power supply which can pump mimimum 14 volts on this rail. <-QUOTE}

The specs for an ATX PSU is +/-5% so I do not think you meant 14 volts on the 12v+ rail did you? Maybe 14 amps? Maybe I am wrong.

[YeOldeStonecat]

{QUOTE-> The specs for an ATX PSU is +/-5% so I do not think you meant 14 volts on the 12v+ rail did you? Maybe 14 amps? Maybe I am wrong. <-QUOTE}

You were right, I was spacing out for a bit. 12 volt rail would be 12 volts...lol. Yes...amps on the rail.

[YeOldeStonecat]

{QUOTE-> I assume it's the only game which supports DX11 now? :doubt: <-QUOTE}

No there are a couple out, and as the weeks go by, more and more released.
There's a Stalker game which supports DX11, earlier versions of Stalker were also incredible graphics wise.....I can't wait to see this new version on DX11.

[PC__Gamer]

lol, no thanks ATI.

DX11 doesnt mean much, and the 5770 doesnt even meet up to my 4890, and i have 2 of those in crossfire.

sure, i could switch, but lower performance and lower FPS just for the sake of DX11, no thanks.

out of the 5xxx series, only the 5870 and above would be an improvement on the 4890, and they aint that cheap and the margins aint big enough for me to jump ship.

[YeOldeStonecat]

{QUOTE-> lol, no thanks ATI.

DX11 doesnt mean much, and the 5770 doesnt even meet up to my 4890, and i have 2 of those in crossfire.

sure, i could switch, but lower performance and lower FPS just for the sake of DX11, no thanks.

out of the 5xxx series, only the 5870 and above would be an improvement on the 4890, and they aint that cheap and the margins aint big enough for me to jump ship. <-QUOTE}

You're not comparing the same price bracket...you're not grasping the meaning of the tread title. This is "mainstream"..meaning affordable video cards for the masses....not top notch bleeding edge highest performance high budget cards. For mainstream gamers on mid-ranged budgets, and they usually game with monitors commonly in the 17 or 19" sizes. The old 5860 is still approx $400.00.

If we wanted to talk about top high end, we'd be talking about the 5970, but that's a whole different stratosphere of untouchable performance..and budget since it rings in at around $700.00.

If someone were to build a gaming system for under 600 dollars, and wanted great "bang for the buck", as well as a bit of future proofing (DX11)..the 5770 is a logical good choice. ;)

[funkydude]

Not to mention he is comparing 2 cards in CrossFire against 1. That make logical sense how..? :dry:

I personally have a 5770 (mid-range) on order to try it out. :)

I believe the 56xx is now available though, the money saver range.

[PC__Gamer]

{QUOTE-> Not to mention he is comparing 2 cards in CrossFire against 1. That make logical sense how..? :dry:

I personally have a 5770 (mid-range) on order to try it out. :)

I believe the 56xx is now available though, the money saver range. <-QUOTE}
ACTUALLY I was not,

CF is not needed, a single 4890 beats the crap out of one of these cards, but as YeOldeStonecat said, these go Mainstream meaning more affordable.

& of course, i do agree, these are good prices for people wanting a good card, i was just suggesting these would not be a good choice for me.

[JRViejo]

{QUOTE-> While all the talk today is on Nvidia's Fermi architecture and the company's upcoming GF100 GPU, there's still the entry-level and lower mid-range market that needs catering to, and AMD plans to do that by releasing a pair of low-end videocards (http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20100118PD212.html) in February. <-QUOTE}
AMD to Launch HD 5450, 5570 Next Month (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/amd_launch_hd_5450_5570_next_month) by Paul Lilly

[JohnnyDollar]

I bought the Sapphire HD5850 (came with a free key to Dirt2 DX11 game) back in October right after they were released. It was in the $250-260 range then. Demand brought it up to nearly $350 and now it's around $300. I guess you could call it a mid to upper range card. I thought $250 was a decent price at the time because they had just been released. Ever since then though, they have been hard to get a hold of until very recently. I wouldn't be surprised if the price dropped down to around $200 this summer. About the card though, I have been very satisfied with it so far. This is my first ATI card. I like the way it clocks down when idle and runs nice and cool. It has enough horsepower to handle everything that I have played on it easily. I got this card because of the DX11 compatibility and it's beefy enough to handle all of the modern games without a problem.

[YeOldeStonecat]

{QUOTE-> I like the way it clocks down when idle and runs nice and cool. <-QUOTE}

The GPU HSF....a key factor when selecting your card. I've had some cards that are screamers..and man does it get annoying. Since then, in selecting vid cards I always check out notes on the fan noise.

[JRViejo]

{QUOTE-> A significant amount of ATI users have taken to the AMD user to user forums to complain about gray screens, crashes and colored-striped hangups.

So far it's unclear as to what is causing the problem. Users report that gray, brown or colored stripes/screen appear while playing games, watching movies and in some cases, while idle. The problems seems to be confined to the HD 5xxx series, although there are a couple of mentions of 4xxx cards. <-QUOTE}
Radeon 5xxx Owners Report Gray Screens/Hangs (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ATI-Radeon-Gray-Screen-Crash,9529.html#xtor=RSS-181) by Jane McEntegart.

[funkydude]

Never experienced or heard of this issue before your post. Odd.

I am however running the latest 10.1 drivers.

[YeOldeStonecat]

So far smooth sailing with the one I got for the boy this XMas when we built his new gaming rig, a Sapphire 5770. He pushes it hard on his system with the latest games that are very demanding of the video card. Last night he downloaded the newly released Beta of Battlefield Bad Company 2....and wow is that a great looking game.

[JRViejo]

{QUOTE-> AMD over the weekend released a new Catalyst 10.1 hotfix intended to alleviate the "gray screen and vertical line corruptions that may randomly appear during normal usage when using an ATI Radeon HD 5800 series graphics card."

You can download the hotfix, which is available for Windows 7, Vista, XP, and XP Media Center, right here (http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/Grey-screen-and-vertical-line-corruptions.aspx). <-QUOTE}
AMD Rolls Out Another Catalyst 10.1 Hotfix (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/amd_rolls_out_another_catalyst_101_hotfix) by Paul Lilly.

[ance]

Radeon HD 5xxx are very slow on 2D applications, it's a shame:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2d-windows-gdi,2539-10.html :-[

[YeOldeStonecat]

{QUOTE-> Radeon HD 5xxx are very slow on 2D applications, it's a shame:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2d-windows-gdi,2539-10.html :-[ <-QUOTE}

Interesting...although I'd gather that CAD/Design users would/should be using professional grade graphics cards anyways (ATI FireGL, nVidia Quadro). Those professional graphics workstations are the ones I sell my clients that do heavy graphics work.

The article also mentions that nVidias discrete cards also have a performance drop, although not as severe as ATI's 5xxx series.

The problem seems to stem from Aero in Windows 7...as if you disable Aero performance in 2D rockets up.

And not on the last page of the article, they have a reply from AMD/ATI that they seemed to have addressed the problem and it should be in an upcoming Catalyst release. Since ATI releases new Catalyst drivers monthly...it should be soon, if not already in this months release.

[JRViejo]

{QUOTE-> AMD’S latest addition to the Radeon line-up, the ATI Radeon HD 5570, is a card primarily aimed at gamers on a tight budget, as well as green-conscious consumers looking for an energy efficient and low profile card that can fit into the case of most small form factor PCs.

Boasting both DirectX 11 support and ATI’s Eyefinity software, the ATI Radeon HD 5570 delivers full 1080p HD video playback, as well as boasting ATI’s Stream technology, which improves video both online and off. <-QUOTE}
ATI’s latest Radeon, the HD 5570, is a power-efficient DirectX 11 GPU for budget minded gamers (http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/atis-latest-radeon-the-hd-5570-is-a-power-efficient-directx-11-gpu-for-budget-minded-gamers-20100211/) by John Brownlee.

[JRViejo]

{QUOTE-> Good news for ATI videocard owners who have been struggling with gray lines, vertical corruption, and other unpleasantries. AMD has released its Catalyst 10.2 package, and if the company follows through on its promise, these look to take things a little more seriously. <-QUOTE}
AMD Catalyst 10.2 Now Available for Download (http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/amd_catalyst_102_now_available_download) by Paul Lilly.