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ssj100
October 13th, 2009, 12:44 AM
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Security-Related/COMODO-Internet-Security.shtml

NoIos
October 13th, 2009, 12:45 AM
Had no doubt it will happen.

NoIos
October 13th, 2009, 12:47 AM
Maybe I'm wrong but still I don't see the label...no spyware...no viruses etc. that usually softpedia displays with the listed software.

NoIos
October 13th, 2009, 12:48 AM
-{ Quote: "Here's how Softpedia have explained Comodo's tactics:

http://www.softpedia.com/user/licensing_adsupported.php" }-

Thanks, this explains everything.

NoIos
October 13th, 2009, 01:07 AM
-{ Quote: "But it's great to see a respected site like Softpedia being sensible." }-

You said it right. And Softpedia handled the whole thing perfectly.

firzen771
October 13th, 2009, 07:12 AM
im actually glad its back on softpedia, gives it easier access when i want to test. and when is an officially supported Win7 version gunna come out?

gh0st
October 13th, 2009, 07:40 AM
Seven is just a glorified patch regarding Vista and is working just fine so far.

Official Version V4 is expected soon this year.

LockBox
October 13th, 2009, 04:03 PM
I'm glad it's back as I'm all for choices. But the real question remains - why would anybody want to use it at all with its dismal ratings for virus/malware detection?

firzen771
October 13th, 2009, 04:12 PM
-{ Quote: "I'm glad it's back as I'm all for choices. But the real question remains - why would anybody want to use it at all with its dismal ratings for virus/malware detection?" }-

typically people dont use its AV component...

the Tester
October 13th, 2009, 05:39 PM
I'm somewhat surprised.
But I don't see anything wrong with the way Softpedia lists Comodo.
It will benefit anyone that wants to d/l and install Comodo. That's a good thing as far as I'm concerned.

renegade08
October 14th, 2009, 12:57 AM
-{ Quote: "You said it right. And Softpedia handled the whole thing perfectly." }-

Well, when they first made plugging-up and giving ridiculous explanation about that, it was too much. Is not about this or that product, or using the product or not, but one must asks himeself what was the reason for that? :lurking:
While this product was "banned", and users go browsing trought Softpedia and find many other products like from Symantec or others that have the identical thing it was dubious and really silly situation to see.
RejZoR has explained here (http://my.opera.com/rejzor/blog/comodo-products-removed-from-softpedia).

That's one :thumbd: for Softpedia.

MICRO
October 14th, 2009, 02:50 AM
-{ Quote: "

No doubt we'll still see Comodo bashers do what they do best. But it's great to see a respected site like Softpedia being sensible." }-

All I have read re. Comodo and it's antics will cause me not to touch anything
of it's with a 20 foot pole, BUT, it appears to be getting increasingly tough to
keep clear of these types as can be seen at, 'The hall of Shame',they just don't seem to care for anything other than a bag full of bullion.
(No wonder I guess, look at the price of it).

Mike at MVPS.org is very well regarded, as are Corrine, Donna, Ben Edelman,
etc.,etc, they watch everything security and don't like the attitude of these
characters,

http://msmvps.com/blogs/hostsnews/archive/2009/07/22/1705234.aspx

subset
October 14th, 2009, 10:46 PM
What is the real difference between Adware and Ad-supported software ???
I mean regardless of Softpedia's New Wording Order...

Wikipedia does not make a difference:
"Adware or advertising-supported software is any software package which automatically plays, displays, or downloads advertisements to a computer after the software is installed on it or while the application is being used."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adware

Apart from that I don't think CIS is Adware, it's just Software with a superfluous, preselected Toolbar.

Cheers

NoIos
October 15th, 2009, 08:38 AM
-{ Quote: "Well, when they first made plugging-up and giving ridiculous explanation about that, it was too much. Is not about this or that product, or using the product or not, but one must asks himeself what was the reason for that? :lurking:
While this product was "banned", and users go browsing trought Softpedia and find many other products like from Symantec or others that have the identical thing it was dubious and really silly situation to see.
RejZoR has explained here (http://my.opera.com/rejzor/blog/comodo-products-removed-from-softpedia).

That's one :thumbd: for Softpedia." }-

Softpedia never gave ridiculous explanations. They have shown respect for their policies and opinions. Now if they have treated other software in different ways...everyone is free to say it around and eventually discredit Softpedia and/or eventually make Softpedia correct the issues. Forgive me but I would also like to ask...since when wikipedia and RejZoR have become the pure source of truth and wisdom?

These for sure are old discussions and had no intention to open them again, but in general I cannot accept any security software that provides with the installer and something else, except of the software itself, even if it's free. In any case these toolbars like Ask etc. are not the end of the world although I find them highly annoying.

NoIos
October 15th, 2009, 08:46 AM
And something else. For me the Comodo installer is Adware. CIS itself is not.

NoIos
October 15th, 2009, 06:54 PM
-{ Quote: "Then maybe you need to try convincing Avira, Avast, Kaspersky, Prevx, Norton, MBAM, SAS etc to add the Comodo installer into their "black-list" etc?" }-

I don't have to convince anybody. The point for a software is to not get blacklisted by all us...the client base ( it's not the case of CIS...I'm talking in general ).

For me the installer is clearly a different thing from the program installed and functioning. In any case I'm tired discussing the same things over and over again and I leave this thread alone.

metalforlife
October 16th, 2009, 03:08 PM
Who defines what "adware" is ? I, personally, concur with how Softpedia defines it. Any software that advertises other softwares is adware. CIS's installer promotes Ask Toolbar, which is clear advertising. The user doesn't install CIS expecting an appended toolbar.

There isn't much to say here. All softwares that come bundled with extraneous programs are adwares, and CIS is one of them.

firzen771
October 21st, 2009, 09:40 PM
-{ Quote: "Real? The computer software game called "Starcraft" is adware then - it advertised and promoted "Diablo II", "Warcraft II" and a couple of other games haha." }-

maybe, but i dont think ANYONE WANTS the ask toolbar, while people who play starcraft, typically wuld like those other games... ask toolbar is completely unrelated to the products job, so i consider it that for that reason. like if CIS promoted CIS Pro then that wuld be fine cuz its a related product and something a user of CIS MIGHT actually be interested in.

wtsinnc
October 21st, 2009, 10:17 PM
Regarding CCleaner and the Yahoo toolbar;

deselecting the option to add it doesn't entirely remove it from the install process.

Following installation of CCleaner and opting out of also installing the toolbar, it still shows up in the registry as "Yahoo Partner Toolbar" (two instances).
I've been told it doesn't matter, that it hasn't been installed, but those registry keys shouldn't be there if the user opted out.

Things like this make me wonder what goodies might be hidden in these free one year licenses for antivirus/security suite applications as well as other software.
I've taken advantage of some of these offers and will continue to do so if the offer is for something I can use, but I still wonder about my privacy being compromised and if this "free" software is really free in the truest sense of the word.

firzen771
October 21st, 2009, 11:45 PM
-{ Quote: "Use CCleaner Slim - it doesn't have the toolbar in its installation process. CCleaner Slim doesn't appear on the default CCleaner downloads page though." }-

whats the diff between the slim version and regular? less capabilities? updated less?

JRViejo
October 21st, 2009, 11:51 PM
FYI. CCleaner Slim (http://www.ccleaner.com/download/builds) - 1/3 of Standard Build's file size.

Seer
October 22nd, 2009, 12:36 AM
-{ Quote: "CCleaner Slim doesn't appear on the default CCleaner downloads page though." }-

It's there -

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Cheers,

firzen771
October 22nd, 2009, 06:46 AM
-{ Quote: "Exactly the same mate, as far as I know. Just doesn't have the Yahoo toolbar!" }-

ok thx.

the Tester
October 23rd, 2009, 08:57 PM
-{ Quote: "Exactly the same mate, as far as I know. Just doesn't have the Yahoo toolbar!" }-

You are right.
I have it installed.