microsoft update cd's

[bigc73542]

Just curious if anyone that ordered the update cd's have received them yet. I was notified that they were shipped by e-mail six days ago. I have not gotten them yet. not that big a deal though.

[beetlejuice]

I got an e-mail on the 18th that it has been shipped and should arrive in 3-8 days.

[bigc73542]

I should have all the updates that I wan't . But I am curious about what trialware is supposed to be on the disc. ;)

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=25443;start=0#msg148261 date=1080009984]
I should have all the updates that I wan't . But I am curious about what trialware is supposed to be on the disc. ;)
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Well except for the updates, I hope it's nothing that's "self installing". :P

[bigc73542]

Just supposed to be trialware option to install is what I read. ;)

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=25443;start=0#msg148267 date=1080010310]
Just supposed to be trialware option to install is what I read. ;)
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You don't think it could be a trial of Joe Bob do ya? :o

[bigc73542]

Ay dooo hope sooo y'alll 8)

[solarpowered candle]

Maybe they now have to save up to pay the EU this bill .


European Union states on Monday backed a proposal to fine Microsoft Corp. a record 497 million euros (US$613.5 million) for abusing its dominance of PC operating systems, an EU member state source said.

"It is 497 (million euros)," the source told Reuters.

If the full European Commission backs the fine as expected on Wednesday it would exceed the 462 million euro penalty imposed on Hoffman-La Roche AG in 2001 for being ringleader of a vitamin cartel.

Microsoft associate general counsel for Europe Horacio Gutierrez said in a statement the fine was unjustified.

"We believe it's unprecedented and inappropriate for the Commission to impose a fine on a company's US operations when those operations are already regulated by the US government and the conduct at issue has been permitted by both the Department of Justice and the US courts," he said.

Microsoft reiterated plans to appeal.

As well as the fine, Microsoft is to be ordered to offer a version of its Windows operating system without Windows Media Player and to encourage computer makers to provide other audiovisual software.

It must also license information to make the servers of rivals more compatible with Windows desktop machines.

The fine amounts to slightly more than one percent of Microsoft's roughly US$53 billion cash on hand and did not impress analysts and critics.

"This is a traffic ticket for Microsoft," said Thomas Vinje of Clifford Chance, who represents Microsoft critics.

Neil Macehiter, an analyst with London-based technology research firm Ovum, said even a US$3 billion fine would have been "an irritant to Microsoft but certainly wouldn't break the bank."

The absolute limit on a fine is 10 percent of annual turnover for the year before the decision, which for Microsoft would amount to US$3.43 billion. But the formula for calculating a fine means the limit is rarely reached.

Microsoft Rejects EU Findings

In Microsoft's view there is no reason it should be fined at all. Commission regulations say a company must infringe rules "either intentionally or negligently" to warrant a fine and Microsoft says it did neither.

The two sides held months of talks to find a settlement. Microsoft spokesman Tom Brookes said the very fact that the Commission rejected such a deal with the firm, in part to obtain a legal precedent, shows no precedent existed before, meaning such behaviour had not in the past been found to be anti-competitive.

In a case like this either a symbolic fine or none at all would be justified, Brookes said.

Microsoft is continuing to generate cash at a rapid rate, and on January 22 projected expected revenues of US$8.6 billion and operating income of US$3.1 billion for the current quarter.

In addition to the fine, two remedies requiring Microsoft to change its behaviour will be approved on Wednesday.

One will require Microsoft license at a reasonable fee more information so that rival makers of low-end servers will find their software as compatible with the Windows operating system as Microsoft's own servers.

Some reports say the Commission backed off a stronger remedy for fear of impinging on Microsoft's intellectual property.

The head of legal affairs at Sun Microsystems Inc., which initiated the current case in 1998, said taking away some of Microsoft's intellectual property might be an appropriate remedy, although the company had tried to elevate intellectual property to "the mystical and holy and untouchable."

"When considering a repeat law breaker, a logical approach is to have an asset of that lawbreaker, usually money, taken away in the form of a fine," said Lee Patch, head of Sun Microsystems legal affairs.

"What's so special about intellectual property? It's an asset like many other types."

[spy1]

I got mine this past Saturday.

Two CD set, green, contains one-year free subscription to EZ AV and somebody's firewall program (sorry, haven't looked at it yet). Pete

[Detox]

ain't seen mine yet ffs

[Mr.Blaze]

WHAT UPDATE CD'S

[sig]

These update CD's: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=22187;start=0

[Peaches4U]

Ordered mine Feb. 17th and no sign of the CDS or any notification .... ??? Hopefully it's coming.

[bigc73542]

If you ordered that long ago and no cd's yet I would reorder. What am I talking about I did reorder. ;D ;)

[bigc73542]

I just reordered the cd's again yesterday 03/23/04 I just checked the status and it is already listed as shipped. ;D ;)

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=25443;start=0#msg149383 date=1080188301]
I just reordered the cd's again yesterday 03/23/04 I just checked the status and it is already listed as shipped. ;D ;)
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That makes me wonder if this is for real? You know nothing MS makes works that fast. Well, except to break that is. ;)

[Nick]

I got an email saying they were on the way and it would take 3-8 days to be received. That was a week ago.

[Peaches4U]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=25443;start=0#msg149380 date=1080187940]
If you ordered that long ago and no cd's yet I would reorder. What am I talking about I did reorder. ;D ;)
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Thanks bigc, will do ... Actually I forgot about it until I read this thread. What would I do without you all. ??? ;D

[Peaches4U]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=25443;start=0#msg149383 date=1080188301]
I just reordered the cd's again yesterday 03/23/04 I just checked the status and it is already listed as shipped. ;D ;)
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Just re-ordered mine .... wonder what happened with the original order?? Thanks again for the reminder. :-*

[DMo224]

I just put in my order today. Start the timer! ;D

[bigc73542]

The update page said that my order had been fulfilled but I got an e-mail that said it had already shipped and they regretted any inconveniance caused by there having to back order more cd's. Any previous orders will also be fulfilled. ;D

[beetlejuice]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=25443;start=15#msg149833 date=1080261338]
The update page said that my order had been fulfilled but I got an e-mail that said it had already shipped and they regretted any inconveniance caused by there having to back order more cd's. Any previous orders will also be fulfilled. ;D
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So what you're saying is that your PC will run twice as good--err--umm--well, I guess that's not saying much is it? :D

[bigc73542]

I am one of the few people it seems that likes windows. ;D I have tried some of the alternatives and I don't personally care for them. I really haven't had very many problems that were actually windows fault. it was usually some other companys software that screwed up. I don't like b. gates but I do like his companys software. ;D ;D ;)

[bigc73542]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=25443;start=15#msg149865 date=1080267067]
I am one of the few people it seems that likes windows. ;D I have tried some of the alternatives and I don't personally care for them. I really haven't had very many problems that were actually windows fault. it was usually some other companys software that screwed up. I don't like b. gates but I do like his companys software. ;D ;D ;)
" }- that might get me kicked out of the linux club ;D

[hayc59]

would that be so bad?? *puppy*

[bigc73542]

i wouldn't lose any sleep over it. ;D

[beetlejuice]

Well this is day 8 and nothing so far. :P

[bigc73542]

My first order was 02/17/04 and nothing on that one yet. and the second one supposedly was just shipped yesterday. Yeah right. :(

[Pretender]

I got a confirmation email today saying that my order (second time around) had been received and is being processed uh-huh..... :D

[gerardwil]

ordered on march 21, shipped on march 26

[Nick]

I think mine must be coming by way of Siberia.

[bigc73542]

I got the first order in today. Can't use the updates since I already have them installed. But I did install the av and firewall.

[Peaches4U]

What side of the planet do you guys live on? ??? I have order confirmations but nada!! :'( Guess I will have to be patient and wait. ;)

[Pretender]

I understand that my cd is now on Venus and should soon be on Pluto and then to Earth maybe. You know those Spaceship people never get it right!!!

[bigc73542]

-{ Quote: "What side of the planet do you guys live on? I have order confirmations but nada!! Guess I will have to be patient and wait. " }- The cd's I received today are the ones I ordered 02/17/04 I think they came by way of andromeda galaxie. ;D

[Nick]

The question though is, who here actually needs the cd to get the updates?

Or is it we all just want something free from MS.

[bigc73542]

If you have xpsp1 it wont update because that is what it installs. along with options for WMP9 and directx 9. and on the second disc is a free year of eztrust av and firewall.

[beetlejuice]

With as long as it's taking, MS must also stand for "Mighty Slow". :P

[beetlejuice]

Well, I finally got mine. Must come by way of Mars. ;)

[bigc73542]

We could have just picked them up on the way ;D

[beetlejuice]

I'm sure it would have been quicker. ;D

[bigc73542]

You would think that after them saying they have a new batch to send out that it wouldn't take half a lifetime. I guess I can feel fortunate for receiving mine. ;D *puppy*

[notageek]

I just got mine on Saturday. I think mine got lost in the milky way becuase it took forever and a day to recieve it.

BigC I know the firewall is just like ZA but how good is it and the AV? How do you like the firewall and AV?

[bigc73542]

It is a good AV and firewall computer associates has always had good detection rates. I am running CA av also but the server version with two scanner engines. Inoculate and vet. I believe tha the one that comes on the disc has the vet engine. It does pretty darn well. Check it out at
http://www.virusbtn.com/adredirect.cgi?2

[notageek]

thanks bigc

[Peaches4U]

Got my CDs in the mail this a.m. The AV is eTRust but do not know what the firewall is as it does not say on the CDS. Someone told me it may be ZoneAlarm Pro..... anyone here know for sure which one it is and the terms of use?? Been out in the garden all day and have no intentions of being on the computer all evening ... too tired & sore!! :'(

[bigc73542]

The FW is ZA pro lite ;)

[Peaches4U]

-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=25443;start=45#msg157189 date=1081361930]
The FW is ZA pro lite ;)
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Thanks - you must have peeked. ;D I already have Zonealarm Pro and am using Avast which so far is working very well for me so I shall just put away the CDs for the time being.

[gerardwil]

Hi,

Bit strange they sending all different kinds AV/FW progs.

[dangitall]

The only thing I've been able to think of is that MS is sending out different 'samplers' from various companies in order to avoid charges of favoritism toward just one company. Anyone else?

[bigc73542]

When the av companies heard of the great give away they probably jumped on the band wagon and donated a wad of free subscriptions. Good free advertising. ;)

[Pretender]

-{ Quote: " quoting: Peaches4U link=board=27;threadid=25443;start=45#msg157206 date=1081364152]
-{ Quote: " quoting: bigc73542 link=board=27;threadid=25443;start=45#msg157189 date=1081361930]
The FW is ZA pro lite ;)
" }-

Thanks - you must have peeked. ;D I already have Zonealarm Pro and am using Avast which so far is working very well for me so I shall just put away the CDs for the time being.
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I'm not going to go for the free trials yet. I'm using NOD32 and it's doing fine and using the free ZoneAlarm. I'll wait until subscription date comes up on NOD32 before making a change if I decide to do so.