Rising Internet Security 2010 Beta

[maymoons]

i am just trying

-{ Quote: "
Rising Internet Security 2010 has major innovation regarding intelligent active defense, adding features of home mode for safe accessing disk, system reinforcement white list and system reinforcement:

Safe accessing disk

Prohibit explorer.exe accessing autorun.inf in the USB disk to prevent USB disk from automatically activating virus process. You can check the checkbox [Safe Accessing Disk] in the system reinforcement settings page to realize protection and control to disk access.

System Reinforcement White List

You can customize the white list in the system reinforcement function under computer protection. The applications added to system reinforcement white list will not be limited by intelligent active defense, satisfying your individual requirements.

Home Mode of System Reinforcement

When you select home mode in the system reinforcement settings page, Rising will process pop-up in the home mode according to default strategy to minimize interference to your normal use of computer.

Application Reinforcement

The function can reinforce the specified applications. You can manually add rules for programs required to be reinforced to realize reinforcement protection for applications. When application reinforced is activated, Rising will monitor its abnormal behavior, such as the word.exe should not execute operation of activating rundll.exe. If the program is found with abnormal behavior, Rising will block the behavior by default, and prompt you to note this abnormal condition.

Additionally, when Rinsing is installed for the first time, it will automatically scan programs that can be reinforced in you computer system, and reinforce them automatically.

Embedded Email Monitor

In the version 2010, we add and enhance OUTLOOK monitor in the Email monitor function, so that you can unify Email monitor and management.

Malicious Behavior Detection

The function can check dangerous behavior of the process. When a process is found with dangerous behavior, Rinsing will prompt. You can check the checkbox [Enable Dangerous Action Analysis] in the Trojan behavior defense settings page of the computer protection, to prevent malicious attacks from the process. Additionally, you can manually add [Behavior Analysis White list] in the Trojan behavior defense setting page. The rules added to white list will not be limited by intelligent active defense.
" }-
official site;
http://www.rising.com.cn/
you can use google translate, if you dont know chinese.

Paid Version Beta Link;
http://rsdownload.rising.com.cn/for_down/ceshi/2010/RIS2010.exe

Free Version Beta Link;
http://download.rising.com.cn/for_down/ceshi/2010/free3/RISfree2010.exe

[maymoons]

Some other screenshots;

[tipstir]

Good you had figured out how to get it down! I couldn't pull it down until now.. Thanks! But it's slow going though...

[maymoons]

And, Rising has unknown trojan defense;

[firzen771]

hope to see some people test this soon, looks pretty cool

[Fajo]

The "Shiney" Pinto returns...

Sorry someone had to say it. :dry:

[tipstir]

Funny Fajo! I guess there is needed a shot in the gut for that one. DD-WRT still needs software firewalls running on systems still you know. Anyway I hope they use the same code for nagging you to pay. I got a fix for that one to make you keep on using it forever. I'll try the beta on test box when I get back to home base next week! ;D

[simisg]

rising internet security is free?
where do you find this link....?

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "rising internet security is free?
where do you find this link....?" }-

Those are virtual servers on the Chinese side.

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "Funny Fajo! I guess there is needed a shot in the gut for that one. DD-WRT still needs software firewalls running on systems still you know. Anyway I hope they use the same code for nagging you to pay. I got a fix for that one to make you keep on using it forever. I'll try the beta on test box when I get back to home base next week! ;D" }-

off-topic.

DDWRT
No nagging here. just got to know the right people not to be botherd with those sorts of issues. ;D


ONTOPIC.
If free means you have to pay for it. sure its free ;)

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "off-topic.

DDWRT
No nagging here. just got to know the right people not to be botherd with those sorts of issues. ;D

If free means you have to pay for it. sure its free ;)" }-

I run DD-WRT at home on two wireless access points but still I run either RIS or CIS. I can't see anyone just depending on firmware to protect them. But that's you. I see I can run CIS without the need of the router to protect. Not by choice but that's how it is since I am offsite for month.

[2good]

how many process does that thing run & how is the memory consumption on it.

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "how many process does that thing run & how is the memory consumption on it." }-

I know that RIS 2009 uses less system resources than anything out there right now. I would like to know how RIS 2010 Beta is using also.

[2good]

Actually last time I used it it had one too many process thats why I asked & the same goes for the firewall.

[clocks]

-{ Quote: "I know that RIS 2009 uses less system resources than anything out there right now. I would like to know how RIS 2010 Beta is using also." }-


Less than Comodo IS or Norton? Last time I tried RAV, it used between 17-45 meg. And thats just AV.

[cqpreson]

Looking forward to seeing its HIPS.I am very interested in its HIPS.

[clocks]

I installed it, but uninstalled it pretty quickly. With limited testing, it appeared to use 2 processes when everything was closed up. Used about 20meg ram, but about 500meg of virtual memory.

The install took a long time, almost as if I were installing a mini service pack for windows or something. Seemed to have a lot of hooks into the operating system. The reason I unistalled it quickly is it wouldnt update. Part of my internet would not work, etc..

Like older versions of Rising products, even with using Revo uninstaller, it still left a lot of files and directories behind. It's only beta, and I believe there may be some potential there, but I will pass on it for now. So if you decide to try it, be warned. Again, Rising products leave A LOT of junk behind when you uninstall.

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "I installed it, but uninstalled it pretty quickly. With limited testing, it appeared to use 2 processes when everything was closed up. Used about 20meg ram, but about 500meg of virtual memory.

The install took a long time, almost as if I were installing a mini service pack for windows or something. Seemed to have a lot of hooks into the operating system. The reason I unistalled it quickly is it wouldnt update. Part of my internet would not work, etc..

Like older versions of Rising products, even with using Revo uninstaller, it still left a lot of files and directories behind. It's only beta, and I believe there may be some potential there, but I will pass on it for now. And if you decide to try it, be warned. As I mentioned earlier, Rising products leave A LOT of junk behind when you uninstall." }-


Yes the Rising isn't a clean product code. But beta code is still a work in progress so there bond to be bugs in it. I find the RIS 2009 runs lite compared to the RFW and RAV they use more memory to run because of the processes that tend to bleed over.

[cqpreson]

-{ Quote: "Yes the Rising isn't a clean product code. But beta code is still a work in progress so there bond to be bugs in it. I find the RIS 2009 runs lite compared to the RFW and RAV they use more memory to run because of the processes that tend to bleed over." }-

When the Rising can't be uninstalled,how do you deal with it?Deleting the main applications and all files,and then cleaning the registry?

[mvdu]

Do people think this beta + Prevx would be a secure setup?

[cqpreson]

-{ Quote: "Do people think this beta + Prevx would be a secure setup?" }-

I don't think they are a good combination.They are very similar.This combination will reduce their ability on any side.

[simisg]

i have download the free one.... is very light and poweful on my system xp sp3
it seems to be completely free!!!! very strong hips and wed shield it has everything!!

[simisg]

sorry but i test it against a rootkit and bypassed prevx says high risk rootkit in system32...... ris failed.... and i unistalled right now
malwarebytes also find this rootkit like trojan fake alert and removeit malwarebytes rocks.!

[majoMo]

-{ Quote: "Like older versions of Rising products, even with using Revo uninstaller, it still left a lot of files and directories behind. ( ... ) Again, Rising products leave A LOT of junk behind when you uninstall." }-
Using Rising uninstaller it doesn't "leave A LOT of junk behind". In fact you don't need to use special uninstall remover like with McAfee, Norton, ThreatFire, etc. ...

It isn't adviced to uninstall this kind of app. with Revo Uninstaller.

Like tipstir and zen_usuario said (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1493354&postcount=338):

- These programs should not be removed with Revo if so they can damage the Registry.
- Rising's final installation process starts before Windows logging, so uninstallation process could be completed by the same way.

Better is to use an uninstaller like ZSoft Uninstaller - 1st Rising own uninstaller and after ZSoft analyzed log to do an accurate uninstall.

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "Using Rising uninstaller it doesn't "leave A LOT of junk behind". In fact you don't need to use special uninstall remover like with McAfee, Norton, ThreatFire, etc. ...

It isn't adviced to uninstall this kind of app. with Revo Uninstaller.

Like tipstir and zen_usuario said (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1493354&postcount=338):

- These programs should not be removed with Revo if so they can damage the Registry.
- Rising's final installation process starts before Windows logging, so uninstallation process could be completed by the same way.

Better is to use an uninstaller like ZSoft Uninstaller - 1st Rising own uninstaller and after ZSoft analyzed log to do an accurate uninstall." }-


Sorry but false.

This thing is almost as bad as Norton. The diff is norton at least gives you a way to get there software out. :dry:

[clocks]

Norton provides a removal tool. Not sure if Rising has anything similar.

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "Sorry but false.

This thing is almost as bad as Norton. The diff is norton at least gives you a way to get there software out. :dry:" }-

Not false, but I can't say anything about Norton since I don't use it anymore.

Rising IS good uninstall can be clean experience if you do it right.

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "Not false, but I can't say anything about Norton since I don't use it anymore.

Rising IS good uninstall can be clean experience if you do it right." }-

You click Uninstall.. how the hell can you do it wrong ? :dry:

[2good]

there is a settings when unistalling Rising the last screen is reboot & right above it there is a check mark keep settings or something of that nature if you don"t uncheck it Rising will be there when you reboot providing that you uninstall it without Revo for instance.

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "You click Uninstall.. how the hell can you do it wrong ? :dry:" }-

Depends?

1. If you want to re-install it later I would use it's uninstall and don't delete it's files leftover.

2. Use Revo and remove everything and delete any left over files with Rising uninstall. Then reboot and use CCleaner Registry to see if anything still hanging around.

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "Depends?

1. If you want to re-install it later I would use it's uninstall and don't delete it's files leftover.

2. Use Revo and remove everything and delete any left over files with Rising uninstall. Then reboot and use CCleaner Registry to see if anything still hanging around." }-

Ok but the argument still stands. It leaves alot of crap left over when you use its uninstall.. Just like Norton, ACCEPT at least Norton has a official way of getting there crap off your system.

Please don't take me wrong I'm not trying to ruffle feathers its just a fact it sucks when you use its uninstall.

[simisg]

i dont care about unistall . unistall is good . the problem is it looks powerfull so many options but is not!!
says stops registry modification by malware but bypaseed says stop trojan but bypassed... only detection not prevention . i test it against rootkit and bypassed.... who cares about options and unistall

[majoMo]

I installed several Rising products (RIS, Personal Firewall, AV, PC Doctor) without any uninstall problems.

Using their own uninstaller the uninstall process is clean. I monitored the installations with ZSoft Uninstaller and reconfirmed that their uninstall does the work.

There aren't no simile with what happened with Norton, Privatefirewall, ThreatFire, etc..

If Revo is used it could have some annoyances. Why? See post #24 and the link there.

Rising doesn't need a removal tool like others. Definitely. Their own uninstall is good.

-{ Quote: "i dont care about unistall . unistall is good . the problem is it looks powerfull so many options but is not!!" }-
I agree. Uninstall isn't an issue indeed. Their performance is the question.

[tekkaman]

-{ Quote: "i dont care about unistall . unistall is good . the problem is it looks powerfull so many options but is not!!
says stops registry modification by malware but bypaseed says stop trojan but bypassed... only detection not prevention . i test it against rootkit and bypassed.... who cares about options and unistall" }-


Most Security products fail against new spywares, hack attacks and other things. The so called almighty Prevention only works if the user understands the alert. Being bombarded with pop ups the non technical user will either block all and render pc useless or allow all and render pc useless. Prevention can act like a virus if the user don't know what to do with the alerts.

I installed Rising 2009 to my dad. He downloads anything and everything. I think it's the best test. And his pc haven't been infected. Before I installed Rising I had to continuously deal with viruses on his computer. On the other hand. Rising has bad opinions from chinese users. Maybe it's why they're trying so hard to be popular abroad. I still think their products have improved a lot.

[simisg]

because im advanced user i can tell you when this software says stop a registry modification or a start up item is not true has hips but malware passed that hips even if you know what to alow and block

[tipstir]

RIS works with RPCD (PC Doctor) as Internet Security Aid.

[cqpreson]

The GUI looks bad.Just look like the product which was in 1990s.

[Tarnak]

-{ Quote: "The GUI looks bad.Just look like the product which was in 1990s." }-

Here is screenie of RIS 2009 that I installed recently, in another snapshot(FD-ISR). Doesn't look 1990's to me.

[quanzi_1507]

-{ Quote: "The GUI looks bad.Just look like the product which was in 1990s." }-
RIS allows you to change skins :D Also some chinese forums have designed skins for RIS, kafan for example.

Three skins offered in RIS 2009:

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n58/quanzi_1507/security/ris2009a.png

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n58/quanzi_1507/security/ris2009b.png

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n58/quanzi_1507/security/ris2009c.png

[cqpreson]

The GUI of Rising wasn't changed.What a pity.It is long time since this GUI was used.

[cqpreson]

-{ Quote: "RIS allow you to change skins :D Also some chinese forums have designed skins for RIS, kafan for example.

Three skins offered in RIS 2009:

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n58/quanzi_1507/security/ris2009a.png

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n58/quanzi_1507/security/ris2009b.png

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n58/quanzi_1507/security/ris2009c.png" }-

In Kafan,I haven't see such a skin which is as beautiful as Kaspersky's.What a pity.

[tipstir]

Windows 7 Black is what I have running but RIS 2009 and RPCD 6.0.0.63 are both in Blue. I had changed the skin to basic prior. This is what it looks like in the Blue Skin for both. Still doesn't really matter how it looks as longs as it functions and protects (fixes/update) the system.

[NobleT]

the official version will be relased soon.Improving many points.expecting it.

[tipstir]

Small P Rising ultimate evaluation - Foreword (from china forum to english)

After a long period of testing tens of millions of users and engineers in their efforts, Rising 2010 has been increasingly improved the final version is about to enter.

In the final version before the release of the Rising once again the ultimate evaluation, the evaluation of each test are detailed.

1. Each evaluation will be gradually released, so stay tuned valuation content: a killing ratio test (large sample size, so stay tuned)

2. Rising two main anti-testing - System Reinforcement single test Defense of malicious acts of individual tests (daily tests simultaneously, so stay tuned)

3. Rising self-protection test (from weak to strong, XE incomparable, so stay tuned)

4. Rising cloud security to report speed test (large number of ultra-accurate, so stay tuned)

[the Tester]

-{ Quote: "The GUI of Rising wasn't changed.What a pity.It is long time since this GUI was used." }-

Judge according to your own criteria.
The least of my concerns with any security program is whether it looks pretty or not. I'd be more concerned with how effective it performs what it's supposed to do.

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "Judge according to your own criteria.
The least of my concerns with any security program is whether it looks pretty or not. I'd be more concerned with how effective it performs what it's supposed to do." }-

This should of never been said in this topic. :blink:

"SHINNY PINTO".. INCOMING!

Sorry could not resist. :argh:

[tipstir]

Here you go I got RIS2010 loaded, updated still works with my tricks to keep on using it. I had installed it over RIS2009, what an experience to do that though! ;D Though as no one here cares I now have a black theme skin for it..
RegProt goes wild now I have to stop the service and uninstall it darn..:o RIS2010 doesn't mention beta anywhere though. Security Level is now Adv.

[tipstir]

Ran Comodo Leak Test, only missed 11 so 329/340 total before RIS2010 detected the threat application as Trojan and thus shut it down (closed it) completely from running. When I had also launched Peer Block that application couldn't run and got an error from Peer Block. But RIS2010 reported the application as a Trojan threat. I had to add Peer Block to the white list so it could run. Now RIS2010 can be setup to work with WinRAR and scan files before they get unrar or etc. In RIS2009 it had the same feature but it's now gives you the option to run such features.

[zfactor]

looks much better that way imo

[the Tester]

-{ Quote: "This should of never been said in this topic. :blink:

"SHINNY PINTO".. INCOMING!

Sorry could not resist. :argh:" }-


I disagree.
If a program is a "shiny pinto" as far as performance or detection rates, that's more important than appearance/GUI.
That's my point anyway.

[zfactor]

what is resource usage on this idle and during scan

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "what is resource usage on this idle and during scan" }-


I'll have to run another scan to check but the full scan was much quicker than under RIS2009. Right now the SR is using under RSTray.exe 22,680K. New feature called Application Reinforcement which I setup for FireFox 3.53. View logs can tell you in graphic form if there was web attacks, virus an etc.. Also tells when the last update was ran.

[zfactor]

i meant all procc combined isnt there more than one with rising??

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "I disagree.
If a program is a "shiny pinto" as far as performance or detection rates, that's more important than appearance/GUI.
That's my point anyway." }-

What I meant is all bark no bite, they tend to spend more time on the GUI then they do anything else. :dry:

[tipstir]

Okay red and the black highlight is for ris2010 and blue is for rising pc doctor. Note: Firefox is showing 198kb for this forum thread.

[tipstir]

I guess the final is almost out.. Final testing in China I was reading.. There seem to be a brand new PC Doctor 6.0.1.46 to go with RIS2010. The version I have workings smoothly updates silently.

[yokinchar]

-{ Quote: "rising internet security is free?
where do you find this link....?" }-
It's not free.

But there is a rising antivirus free edition at here:
http://www.freerav.com/

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "It's not free.

But there is a rising antivirus free edition at here:
http://www.freerav.com/" }-

Simple fix to get around the nag screens, then have free updates.. RIS2009 and RIS2010 can be done using the free trial versions.

[tipstir]

Anyway back at home base now.. Install RIS2010 on all systems including server.

[tipstir]

Hmmm? I've loaded this on server OS, seems to be down today. All other systems seem okay. But so mentioned that RegProt doesn't work with RIS2010 anymore.

[tipstir]

No go with Server OS doesn't update. But on Client OS it does. I had to go back to RIS2009 for the Server OS. Oh well..

[tipstir]

BT box showing RIS2010 latest version so far so good!

[tipstir]

Final testing is on 9/24 for 2010-UT after that they're giving 3 months free usage. But the nag screens can be disabled. Right now I am installed this suite on old Toshiba PII 266MHz with 256MB of RAM 7,200RPM 40GB HDD and wireless 802.11g/n. I've modded it to work with current XP Pro SP3 it's over 11 years and still going!

[tipstir]

Found out today one system won't bootup because of the RIS2010. Under safe mode the RIS2010 doesn't load. But of course that can be uninstalled under safe mode. Once done I was able to load windows again.

[falkor]

So how is this Suite progressing ? I am using the 2010 Suite and find it very good . They even offered a 50% code on Facebook . I must admit this is pretty nice. Looking forward to more development on this:)

[ghodgson]

I wonder if RIS 2010 has been released fully now, as my Free RAV 2009 won't update DEFS anymore. Last update 9/10/09, defs. ver 21.50.44, prog version 21.59.44.

Anyone else noticed this or is it me ??

Cheers Gordon

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "I wonder if RIS 2010 has been released fully now, as my Free RAV 2009 won't update DEFS anymore. Last update 9/11/09, defs. ver 21.50.44, prog version 21.59.44.

Anyone else noticed this or is it me ??

Cheers Gordon" }-

Good I thought I was the only one with RAV 2009 free wasn't updating anymore as of 10/10/09 on all my systems. But I had enough with Rising RAV, RFW and RIS running all those program has caused me all type of issues from unable to detect Trojans, blocking Rising PC Doctor from launching, block wireless RDP and the list goes on and on.. There is something wrong with the way they communicate with other network systems on the same network. I only keeping Rising PC Doctor still it can repair the OS without having to use the Windows Updater which can be disabled.

To me Rising ditching all these free versions and forcing you to buy their software except for PC Doctor product that's still free!

I am gone with Symantec Endpoint Protection all outsourcing companies are using with their clients network infrastructure including enterprise server. Though it uses the old Sygate firewall technology that works right out of the box to pick all network systems and print servers I have on the network. No need to sit there and say well add this IP range or subnet.

Plus it only need 5.9KB to run. I got it on old PII and it runs pretty good on that..

[ghodgson]

Ok so Rising have abandoned it's free AV users. I used to use Symantec before but didn't like it.

Thanks Gordon