NORTON 2010 is out!

[quanzi_1507]

-{ Quote: "The final version of Norton Internet Security 2010 (build 17.0.0.136 on 01.09.2009) is now available in German and English: " }-

http://updatecenter.norton.com/

The box shots are incredibly good ;D

[LagerX]

Nice!
Going to update my relative's computers :)

[Victek123]

-{ Quote: "Nice!
Going to update my relative's computers :)" }-
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Tried it and the updater says my NIS2009 is the latest version. Is there a direct download link for the new build?

[PnP]

-{ Quote: ".
Tried it and the updater says my NIS2009 is the latest version. Is there a direct download link for the new build?" }-

use manual and not automatic... now currently use nis 2010

[Legendkiller]

well this seems exciting,will trial it soon.......

[trjam]

a very very good product.:thumb: That was a fun beta.

[1boss1]

So... Can anyone find the direct download?

[sarad]

Servers appear to be down -overwhelmed?

[LagerX]

I was able to download and install it.
Now it seems to be offline. Installer was 128MB if I am not wrong.
First update was 2MB, but it was unsuccessful. Then after I checked again, update size was 48MB.

[cqpreson]

what does it update?

[sarad]

http://community.norton.com/norton/board/message?board.id=nis_feedback&thread.id=71974&view=by_date_ascending&page=3


"All,

2010 is not officially available yet. You must have caught us during our prep work to get things prepared for the final release. When we post the final release, it will be announced here on these forums, in the Norton Internet Security/Norton AntiVirus release forums, and on Symantec.com. We are still planning to release the 2010 version some time this month; I'm sorry I can't give you more specific dates for the release.

I know some of you are anxious to see this released. Believe me, I share the same feelings . Keep an eye on the forums for an update on the official release. "


Cheers,
Tim Lopez
Norton Forums Administrator
Symantec Corporation

[Malcontent]

http://download.cnet.com/8301-2007_4-10321265-12.html
-{ Quote: "
Debuting Wednesday, both the basic Norton AntiVirus 2010 and the more robust Norton Internet Security 2010 will use Quorum, which Symantec is calling an advanced security network based both on traditional malware signatures and on reputation for both files and software.

The Quorum technology is designed to expose system and threat-detection data, so users who want more than just "set-it-and-forget-it" information can customize Norton's responses. The Insight Network incorporates Quorum and uses statistical analysis of file attributes to judge the trustworthiness of a file. Norton Threat Insight provides information on detected threats, such as the URL of a threat. Norton System Insight uncovers system information and can be used to detect system slowdowns. Norton Download Insight uses Symantec's cloud data to determine the safety of a downloaded file before it runs. " }-
Looks like tomorrow could be the official release day.

[Hezakiah]

Will I need to uninstall NIS 2009 first, or can I install over the top of it with 2010?

[zfactor]

you can prob install over but imo when any company does a full version change i prefer to do a fresh install. it usually prevents issues that way

[Hezakiah]

Ahh ok, thanks :)

[DigitalMan]

If I'm licensed for IS2009 for another 150 days can I update to IS2010 for free or do I have to stay on 2009?

[1boss1]

Your license entitles you to the latest version, so your key isn't year/version specific.

When you grab 2010 final and input your key you will have the same amount of days left. The Beta's however are a different process.

[Rain_Train]

Does anybody know if there is – or will be – a NAV 2010 version of GE?

[Ade 1]

Looks like it's now on the official Symantec site. http://nct.symantecstore.com/fulfill/0184.092

I've got 126 days left on my license so I'm just downloading the full trial which will hopefully accept my key!

[1boss1]

Let us know if it works.

I think they need to get their UI designers to tear the whole Symantec site down and make a new one from scratch. Currently it's a waste of pixels, broken links everywhere, can't find anything i even ran in to a page today offering to upgrade me to 2007.

[Ade 1]

Uninstalled NIS 2009, installed NIS 2010 (trial), subscription carried over and everything working great! Version 17.0.0.136, installer was 80.7mb in size.

[zfactor]

file is still called beta though?

[kinwolf]

I installed it tonight also.

A small warning, if your current subscription has less than 30 days left, run it through with 2009 because 2010 will tell you that your current sub has less day left than the 30 days of the product and will then only accept a new subscrption key, it won't accept the old one and won't give you 30 days. I'll contact support about that but looks like a subs bug to me.

[Victek123]

-{ Quote: "Will I need to uninstall NIS 2009 first, or can I install over the top of it 2010?" }-
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I had some difficulty trying to install "over the top" of 2009. What worked best was to do a "custom uninstall" of 2009 which saved the key (and any passwords, etc. if you're using the website logon feature). Then when I installed 2010 the key was automatically inserted.

[Pleonasm]

Interestingly, the Norton Update Center (http://updatecenter.norton.com/) reports that my Norton Internet Security 2009 (16.7.2.11) version is “up-to-date” and does not offer to download the 2010 edition.

[zfactor]

-{ Quote: ".
I had some difficulty trying to install "over the top" of 2009. What worked best was to do a "custom uninstall" of 2009 which saved the key (and any passwords, etc. if you're using the website logon feature). Then when I installed 2010 the key was automatically inserted." }-

use complete uninstall anyway it still saves the lic key

[zfactor]

-{ Quote: "Interestingly, the Norton Update Center (http://updatecenter.norton.com/) reports that my Norton Internet Security 2009 (16.7.2.11) version is “up-to-date” and does not offer to download the 2010 edition." }-

click choose manually then pick nis then pick 2010

[sarad]

Now working automatically. Downloading as I write.

[Ade 1]

-{ Quote: "file is still called beta though?" }-

No - it's the official release.

[zfactor]

yeah it changed since i posted that now it is

[Arin]

-{ Quote: "Interestingly, the Norton Update Center (http://updatecenter.norton.com/) reports that my Norton Internet Security 2009 (16.7.2.11) version is “up-to-date” and does not offer to download the 2010 edition." }-

It says the same thing for me and ironically I am using McAfee!

You already have the latest version of your Norton product installed on your computer. Your Norton product version is up-to-date.

Anyway I have more than 6 months left on my NAV license so will give it a spin on my primary rig.

http://nct.symantecstore.com/fulfill/0184.093

[Pleonasm]

-{ Quote: "click choose manually then pick nis then pick 2010" }-
Zfactor, I also tested that method, too -- and, either an automatic or a manual process with the Norton Update Center (http://updatecenter.norton.com/) produces the same result: “You already have the latest version of your Norton product installed on your computer. Your Norton product version is up-to-date.”

I suspect this is a temporary problem with the Norton Update Center, since Norton Internet Security 2010 is scheduled to be officially released yet today.

[Colts_Fan]

-{ Quote: "Zfactor, I also tested that method, too -- and, either an automatic or a manual process with the Norton Update Center (http://updatecenter.norton.com/) produces the same result: “You already have the latest version of your Norton product installed on your computer. Your Norton product version is up-to-date.”

I suspect this is a temporary problem with the Norton Update Center, since Norton Internet Security 2010 is scheduled to be officially released yet today." }-

You have to pick NIS 2009 and then it will give you the option to download NIS 2010. By picking NIS 2010 it thinks you already have the new version installed.

[kinwolf]

There are some small bugs still with the interface. On some links you have to hover you mouse over it many times before it becomes clickable.

And anyone knows what it is doing when you click "Optimize"? I couldn't tell.

[Sputnik]

Is SONAR 2 compatible with Windows x64? I know SONAR 1 was not.

[rayoflight]

-{ Quote: "And anyone knows what it is doing when you click "Optimize"? I couldn't tell.
" }-
NAV Help:
-{ Quote: "About optimization
The data storage space on a disk is divided into discrete units. These units are called clusters. When files are written to the disk, they are broken up into cluster-sized pieces. When all of the pieces of a file are located in adjacent or contiguous clusters, the file can be accessed quickly.
Your computer's hard disk stores all of your files, applications, and the Windows operating system. The bits of information that make up your files gradually spread over the disk. This process is known as fragmentation. The more that you use your computer, the more fragmented the hard disk gets.
When a fragmented file is accessed, the disk performance is slower. The performance is slower because the drive head locates, loads, saves, and keeps track of all of the fragments of the file. If free space is also fragmented, the drive head might have to track adequate free space to store temporary files or newly added files.
Optimization rearranges file fragments into adjacent or contiguous clusters. When the drive head accesses all of the file data in one location, the file is read into the memory faster. Optimization also maximizes the usable free space on a disk by grouping most frequently used files and infrequently used files. Optimization consolidates free space to avoid fragmenting newly added files. It adds extra space after major data structures so that they can grow without immediately becoming fragmented again.

Optimizing your boot volume
The Optimize option lets you optimize your boot volume to improve the boot time of your computer. Optimization of your boot volume maximizes the usable free space by rearranging file fragments into adjacent and contiguous clusters. When the drive head of your hard drive accesses all of the file data in one location, the file is read into the memory faster.
When you use the Optimize option in Windows XP, Norton AntiVirus optimizes only the boot volume (for example, C:\Windows). Therefore, it requires less time to complete optimization. However, when you use the Optimize option in Windows Vista or Windows 7, Norton AntiVirus optimizes the drive that contains the boot volume. Therefore, it requires more time to complete optimization.
You can access the Optimize option at the top of the security status graph in the Performance window.
To optimize your boot volume
In the Norton AntiVirus main window, click Performance.
In the Performance window, at the top of the security status graph, click Optimize.
" }-

[dawgg]

-{ Quote: "And anyone knows what it is doing when you click "Optimize"? I couldn't tell." }-
Judging by the post above this, it defragments it (easier way of putting it) :D

[quanzi_1507]

I'm wondering... if NAV and NIS already has that kind of TUNEUP features then what we'll get from N360 4.0 is only an extra BACKUP???

[Ade 1]

-{ Quote: "Is SONAR 2 compatible with Windows x64? I know SONAR 1 was not." }-

Yes it is and also SONAR 1 was compatible with x64 in NIS 2009 with the 16.5 update.

[Sputnik]

@Ade 1
Thanks for the information!

[Ade 1]

-{ Quote: "@Ade 1
Thanks for the information!" }-

You're welcome.

[SIR****TMG]

Mine updated just fine.:thumb:

[lu_chin]

Does anyone use GeSWall 2.9 (free edition) with NIS 2010? When I use them together and run IE8 isolated, the Norton site-safety and cards & log-ins buttons are disabled. Is there anyway to make them stay enabled?

Thanks.

[virtumonde]

So if i download something with Firefox ,norton pop-s telling if the download is safe, suspicious,etc.
If i use a download manager it doesn't.So how does this feature work???I can't find any info.
I'm testing Norton Antivirus 2010 .

[Birdman]

2 questions....

1) is it recommended to install NIS 2010 over an existing version (ie NIS 2009) or do a un-install of the old version and a "clean" install of the new?

2) is NIS 2010 lighter and faster than NIS 2009?

I have an old pc (currently using NIS 2009) and I was wondering if it's recommended to upgrade or not.

Thanks.

[Victek123]

-{ Quote: "2 questions....

1) is it recommended to install NIS 2010 over an existing version (ie NIS 2009) or do a un-install of the old version and a "clean" install of the new?

2) is NIS 2010 lighter and faster than NIS 2009?

I have an old pc (currently using NIS 2009) and I was wondering if it's recommended to upgrade or not.

Thanks." }-
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Personally I recommend uninstalling NIS2009 using the "custom uninstall" option. That will save the key plus any data you have in the password manager. Then install 2010 and the data will be imported automatically. It seems like the impact on system resources is about the same as 2009. I would definitely try it as there are many improvements.

[Birdman]

-{ Quote: ".
Personally I recommend uninstalling NIS2009 using the "custom uninstall" option. That will save the key plus any data you have in the password manager. Then install 2010 and the data will be imported automatically. It seems like the impact on system resources is about the same as 2009. I would definitely try it as there are many improvements." }-

Thanks for your insight Victek123. One more thing, how or where do I download NIS 2010?

I went on Symantec's site, but couldn't find a direct link that didn't include paying them upfront. I have about 4 months left on my current NIS 2009 subscription.

[zfactor]

http://spftrl.digitalriver.com/pub/symantec/tbyb/NAM/NIS10TBEN.exe

i recc a full install myself it WILL STILL STORE the lic key and then you start over again. but maybe thats just me. and yes actually it is running a bit lighter for me. it seems to use a tad bit more cpu at times but does things faster imo and does use a bit less ram during scans etc on my systems mine is idling around 3-4mb and doing a full scan with high settings and using live update at the same time i say only a tad over 22mb total on this system

one thing i dont like is the look of the new gui though its growing on me. but its just to dark and they could have used better overall colors instead of all black and yellow

[Birdman]

Thanks zfactor. I was looking for a direct download link likwe the one you posted instead of the stupid Norton Update Center software install.

I was really happy with IS 2009.....so hopefully this will work even better.

Any install tips regarding NIS 2010 (ie custon install or disabling any features that might hog system resources)?

I know that during the beta stage of NIS 2010....some people disabled something (not sure what it was) to make NIS 2010 more responsive. Is this still necessary w/ the final version?

Thanks,

[zfactor]

not sure about that i have 0 issues with it. its very responsive. that is also a 30day trial now as well.. i recc early load be turned on but it does increase boot time just a bit..

[1boss1]

On a Vista Ultimate i done an over the top install and got a blue screen. An XP SP3 i just upgraded i done a custom uninstall (it saved the key) then installed 2010 fresh and no issues.

So yeah like zfactor, it's wiser to do a fresh installation.

But otherwise all running good.

[Ade 1]

Still running great here too. Really don't see any reason to move to anything else (famous last words!).

Someone at work asked me what security app I use. As soon as I mentioned Norton a look of disgust came over their face and words like 'hog', 'slow', 'heavy', 'horrible' were thrown around. I asked had they tried the 2009/10 version and were honest and said the last version they tried was about 2006. So unless ppl make other ppl aware as to how good the 2009/10 products are, then there's still people out there who associate Norton with resource hogging.

Spread the word people!!!

[Victek123]

-{ Quote: "Still running great here too. Really don't see any reason to move to anything else (famous last words!).

Someone at work asked me what security app I use. As soon as I mentioned Norton a look of disgust came over their face and words like 'hog', 'slow', 'heavy', 'horrible' were thrown around. I asked had they tried the 2009/10 version and were honest and said the last version they tried was about 2006. So unless ppl make other ppl aware as to how good the 2009/10 products are, then there's still people out there who associate Norton with resource hogging.

Spread the word people!!!" }-
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Yeah, Norton's bad reputation from the past continues to linger. Even the 2008 NIS was dog slow in my experience, so it's only been a year since the dramatic improvements of the 2009 products.

[Birdman]

Just installed NIS 2010 and thus far it looks and works great.

During the install, it did not ask my for a serial key. It went ahead and installed a 30-day trial. How do I go about entering my key and resume my subscription?

Is there a manual way to do this?

[LagerX]

-{ Quote: "Just installed NIS 2010 and thus far it looks and works great.

During the install, it did not ask my for a serial key. It went ahead and installed a 30-day trial. How do I go about entering my key and resume my subscription?

Is there a manual way to do this?" }-

Look below the Norton UI. There is Renew or something.

[zfactor]

yup click renew and then simply enter your key click next and your done

really liking the new version....

[larryb52]

the company policy hasn't chged have they? I'm mean same folks that give away your info to others...I don't care how good it runs...

[Ade 1]

-{ Quote: "the company policy hasn't chged have they? I'm mean same folks that give away your info to others...I don't care how good it runs..." }-

Excuse me for being ignorant but please explain......

[Arin]

So far so good. the only hiccup was during installation where it asked for my email address and password to access my Norton Account. But even after doing so it said I have 30 days of validity. After installation I had to go to Subscription and enter my key manually to get it extended beyond that.

[Birdman]

-{ Quote: "Look below the Norton UI. There is Renew or something." }-

Worked great. Thanks.

NIS 2010 gets :thumb: :thumb: up from me. It improved on an already great 2009 product. Kudos to Symantec.

This coming from a long time Kaspersky user. Unfortunately they've seem to have gone the other way.

[Zyrtec]

Hey,

I have to admit they [Norton] have improved a lot when it comes to resource usage [CPU/RAM] of NIS 2009/2010.

Even their corporate solution called Symantec Endpoint Protection 11.0 [MR4 MP2/11.0.4202.75] unmanaged install runs very light on a somewhat old laptop with a Pentium M 1.73GHz, 1GB RAM and XP SP-3. Only uses 12MB Ram idle.

The only thing I hate about them is that so called Norton Toolbar which installs without permission on IE and Firefox. Other than that they are very competitive now.

Regards,

Carlos

[1boss1]

-{ Quote: "The only thing I hate about them is that so called Norton Toolbar which installs without permission on IE and Firefox. Other than that they are very competitive now.

Regards,

Carlos" }-

Exactly, i disabled all that from within Norton before i launched Firefox/IE and the toolbars were still jammed in to both browsers. Same with Office Outlook, my server sorts the wheat from the chaff so i disabled Nortons anti-spam and the toolbars were still stuck in Office when i launched it.

But otherwise very good, my PC has been running 36 hours since a reboot and Nortons 2 processes come to 113,104K and CPU is averaging 0.9%

[ink]

Runs fine. Set Sonar to aggressive, then detect my Mplayer as security risk as this file is never see before, then I restore my quarantine and check never scan this file for sonar, but nothing work, next run still deteck, I had to set Sonar to automatic in order to run. Later, I found a way, right click the file, Norton File Insight, click to trust the file

[Siro]

Installed it day before yesterday and had no problems at all accepted my key from NIS 09 and working good till now.

[Fly]

What about SafeSearch/ask.com/IAC in this version ?

[norky]

i like it other than the toolbars and the ugly flip animation.

[Victek123]

-{ Quote: "i like it other than the toolbars and the ugly flip animation." }-
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Yeah, the flip animation seems like a concession to the gaming crowd - at least they didn't include space invaders LOL :) I found the toolbar password manager quite useful until I switched to LastPass. Fortunately the toolbar can be hidden.

[jlo]

Just updated from NIS 2009 to 2010 on wifes computer. Tried a bit of new malware I found and fired it off in Sandboxie. Norton insight instantly blocked and said not trusted.

This insight seems to really add some strong 0 day protection. Good job Norton!

Cheers

Jlo

[kinwolf]

-{ Quote: "i like it other than the toolbars and the ugly flip animation." }-

I love the flip animation. Why can't apps have a little jazz in it ;D

[Chuck_IV]

I gotta say Norton has really cleaned up their act. I picked up a couple netbooks(Gateway 3103 and 3114) which had Norton 2009 preinstalled. I was gonna wipe it but decided what the heck, it has 2 free months, so I may as well use it.

It has done VERY well and hasn't slowed down the netbooks really at all. I was impressed with it enough to give 2010 a try on my main PC and I'm pretty impressed. Again, no bogging down at all and I find it is quicker than what I was using(KIS and Bitdefender).

The only complaint I have is the dog slow receiving of my email. Norton's anti spam REALLY slows down the receipt of my mail, MUCH more than my previous security suite. I was hoping 2010 would be better with this, but it's about the same as 2009 is(at least when comparing to 2009 on my netbooks).

Also one other pet peeve of mine that Norton's Antispam does(or doesn't do) which irks me is when it mis classifies an email as spam and I tell it, it is not spam, it still leaves [Norton AntiSpam] in the header, instead of removing it like many other packages do.

[TonyW]

I've seen this version on a laptop. It was interesting to note the stats provided by Download Insight. Over 62m files processed with the figure increasing in real-time. Over 49m were marked as good and 9m as bad, but 4m was left unclassified.

[iwod]

Have been beta testing for few months, i really wish i could continue to use this product but it was too expensive for me.

The cost for NIS 2010 here is 2 - 3 times more then KIS and NOD32

[Defcon]

I purchased Norton 2009 for my fathers pc running Vista. there were issues running it under UAC (e.g. it did not elevate and there was no way to access settings unless logged on as admin) which I didn't like.

Has this been fixed? I've been using MSE (Morro) for last few months - has anyone switched to Norton from that and what are your thoughts?

[zfactor]

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=212247&stc=1&d=1253002594

notice the non admin access to settings.

[iwod]

Where can i Download a Trial Version? I wanted to test to see if AV only is enough for me. Since Identity and Firewall is a bit useless for me.

Edit: Found it. It is in Download Section. I was expecting a Trial link inside the product page.

Edit 2: Er........... are there any more 14 days trail instead of this Stupid Opt Out Trial that require me to input my credit card?

[1boss1]

Norton's site is hopeless:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Firewall/Norton-Internet-Security.shtml

[dawgg]

-{ Quote: "Edit 2: Er........... are there any more 14 days trail instead of this Stupid Opt Out Trial that require me to input my credit card?" }-
ha ha :argh: forgot they do that

-{ Quote: "Norton's site is hopeless:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Firewall/Norton-Internet-Security.shtml" }-
Softpedia say next to Licence/Price "Ad-Supported / USD 59.99..."
Whats the Ad? Is Softpeadia wrong, is it the Ask toolbar or is the trial different to the pay-for product and has other ads with it?

[zfactor]

-{ Quote: "Where can i Download a Trial Version? I wanted to test to see if AV only is enough for me. Since Identity and Firewall is a bit useless for me.

Edit: Found it. It is in Download Section. I was expecting a Trial link inside the product page.

Edit 2: Er........... are there any more 14 days trail instead of this Stupid Opt Out Trial that require me to input my credit card?" }-

~removed direct download link of exe....Bubba~

30 day trial direct link

[1boss1]

-{ Quote: "Softpedia say next to Licence/Price "Ad-Supported / USD 59.99..."
Whats the Ad? Is Softpeadia wrong, is it the Ask toolbar or is the trial different to the pay-for product and has other ads with it?" }-

From comments on different threads on Wilders, it's the Ask toolbar during install however i upgraded from NIS09 and it picked up the serial itself and i didn't see any toolbar option.

-{ Quote: " ~removed direct download link of exe....Bubba~

30 day trial direct link" }-

Yes exact link Softpedia has, however i wasn't sure about direct linking to .exe's

[zfactor]

no toolbar option for me either. and i figured since its digital river its for sure a legit download. i can upload it to one of my accounts if need be. its only a trial.. so i didnt think there was anything wrong

[Fly]

-{ Quote: "the company policy hasn't chged have they? I'm mean same folks that give away your info to others...I don't care how good it runs..." }-

Would you care to elaborate, please ?

[Bubba]

-{ Quote: "i figured since its digital river its for sure a legit download." }-Possibly no harm no foul but our preference is no direct download links. In this case, we'll defer on the side of caution since it's not Symantec and ask that direct links to a site where members can then choose the exe link would be our preference.

[Ade 1]

-{ Quote: "Would you care to elaborate, please ?" }-

I have asked LarryB the same a couple pages back but no response!

[zfactor]

can i upload it then somewhere into a zip file for those to download??

[Ed_H]

Is there no place to download this without giving credit card info?

[Ade 1]

-{ Quote: "Is there no place to download this without giving credit card info?" }-

Have PMed you a link!

[ambient_88]

-{ Quote: "Is there no place to download this without giving credit card info?" }-
I find it unacceptable that they require you to include your credit card number before you can download the trial (opt-out trial, that is).

[xdot]

For those who may need a symantec link for 2010 (2009 in html address is your "current" version).

http://updatecenter.norton.com/display_product.ftl?NUCSID=2&NUCVER=2009

[Ed_H]

-{ Quote: "Have PMed you a link!" }-

Got it...thanks!!!

[firzen771]

any link to the AV alone?

[Fly]

-{ Quote: "I find it unacceptable that they require you to include your credit card number before you can download the trial (opt-out trial, that is)." }-

It is very strange indeed.

However, can you give them a fake CC number and name ?

I'm not sure if that is legal.

[ambient_88]

-{ Quote: "It is very strange indeed.

However, can you give them a fake CC number and name ?

I'm not sure if that is legal." }-
I don't think so. You see, downloading the trial is like purchasing from their store, which is really strange. The store will verify your card, and if it is not valid, the transaction may not go through.

[sun88]

This link to NIS 2010 30 day trial didn't ask me for any credit card info http://nct.symantecstore.com/fulfill/0184.092

[sun88]

If you want to update from NIS 2009 to NIS 2010 use this update link http://updatecenter.norton.com/manually.ftl

This way you don't have to uninstall first and it doesn't ask for your key, etc.
Warning - the new version won't have your old settings, like firewall exclusions, scanning exclusions, etc.