Prevx RC 3.0.4.183

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "can you specify more details about "additional malware protection @ 64bit" that you mentioned ?
thank you !" }-

The 64bit version benefits from the additional antimalware protection we've added to both the 32bit/64bit versions - we have some new and tighter tuned engine heuristics and database reporting methods which provide a nice boost to detections :)

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Will this update be automatically installed if I have a paid version of Prevx when it is ready for final release, or should I get the RC and install it now. I have a 64 bit machine." }-

The live version 3.0.1.65 will automatically update to the new version as soon as we've released it on 32bit and 64bit machines so you don't need to install the RC yet :)

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Like I said, seems odd to me that Maximum is now default, given how Maximum is described. Or is that the text that you plan to change? Sorry, confused. :)" }-

The "(Standard)" part is what we will be removing, as well as a rewording of the Maximum text. We've corrected the incompatibilities resulting from Maximum self protection so it should be much more reliable now and will now be the default to aid in protecting the browser from outside tampering.

[Page42]

-{ Quote: "The "(Standard)" part is what we will be removing, as well as a rewording of the Maximum text. We've corrected the incompatibilities resulting from Maximum self protection so it should be much more reliable now and will now be the default to aid in protecting the browser from outside tampering." }-
Okay, so I'll reset Self Protection to Maximum. :)

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "In Web Browser Security, with Basic Configuration Protection Enabled, is this the drop down dialog that a user is supposed to see? Also, is it possible to make this drop down movable on my desktop? I'd like to slide it to the right. It would be cool to be able to drag and drop it to a desired location. :)" }-

It is possible that GeSWall is blocking Prevx from fully seeing into the browser, which is why the text reads "Unknown". We have another user reporting this as well and will be investigating it closer with the next build.

I love your suggestion about letting the user drag/drop the tab - I think that will clear up a lot of the possible tab position incompatibilities with other security applications also integrating similarly into the browser. We will be adding this functionality as soon as we've finished all of the compatibility fixes/additional pieces :thumb:

[Page42]

-{ Quote: "It is possible that GeSWall is blocking Prevx from fully seeing into the browser, which is why the text reads "Unknown". We have another user reporting this as well and will be investigating it closer with the next build." }-
Yes, I found that post and commented there as well. I'd like to learn the differences between an isolated browser in GeSWall and a browser protected by Prevx Whatever You're Gonna Call It. :)
-{ Quote: "I love your suggestion about letting the user drag/drop the tab - I think that will clear up a lot of the possible tab position incompatibilities with other security applications also integrating similarly into the browser. We will be adding this functionality as soon as we've finished all of the compatibility fixes/additional pieces :thumb:" }-
Glad you like the idea! :)

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Also, I'm sorry to see Prevx getting away from the Edge name. What used to be "Edge Realtime Protection" in the Security Status dialog is now "Realtime Protection". I liked having that Edge. :)" }-

Indeed :-\ We found that there were too many users being confused by our branding changes so we are fully moving away from the Edge/CSI/eSAC branding with the next version to simplify everything (except for the inclusion of the new name of the browsing security which we're having because of the completely parallel functionality :))

[Page42]

-{ Quote: "Indeed :-\ We found that there were too many users being confused by our branding changes so we are fully moving away from the Edge/CSI/eSAC branding with the next version to simplify everything (except for the inclusion of the new name of the browsing security which we're having because of the completely parallel functionality :))" }-
Maybe just the new name of the browsing security can retain the old edgy branding... Prevx EdgeBrowse, EdgeSurf, or EdgeLock! (Shameless plug for Name Game submission (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1537975&postcount=157)) :)

[Page42]

I want to report that I am unable to take screen shots, even when allowing them, and I also want to report some weirdness with RC3.0.4.183 and MailWasher Pro. What I see is a black square around each of the buttons at the top of the MW page (Check Mail; Stop; Process Mail; Mail Program & Spam Tools.) But I can't take a screen shot of it because Prevx won't let me, even when I follow the prompts and allow FastStone Capture to take a screenie. The page I want just disappears. This also happens with MSPaint. I get a Prevx warning about the screen capture attempt, I click through saying it should be allowed, then the subject disappears. This is with GeSWall not isolating my browser.

When I switch back to isolated browser in GeSWall, there is no MailWasher Pro trouble with black buttons, and I can easily take screen shots, as seen below.

I should note that I am running an older version of MWPro, v5.3. I have not wanted or needed to upgrade. Maybe that is the problem with the black squares, but I'm still having problems allowing screen shots even when I say it's okay. :)

[Luden]

Hopefully this hasn't already been covered (I skimmed the previous pages); Using Firefox and IE I see the Prevx menu in the browser, but nothing in Google Chrome (see image).

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4964/googlechromeu.png

Other then that, the RC is looking great so far :)

[1000db]

-{ Quote: "In Web Browser Security, with Basic Configuration Protection Enabled, is this the drop down dialog that a user is supposed to see? Also, is it possible to make this drop down movable on my desktop? I'd like to slide it to the right. It would be cool to be able to drag and drop it to a desired location. :)" }-

I agree that a drag and drop tab would be cool. Since it's so small it's not too bothersome where ot is unless you are using Iron/Chrome/Chromium.

[simmikie]

-{ Quote: "Great! I've received a couple reports of possible issues with DefenseWall, could you do a quick test and visit http://www.citicards.com and see if it changes to a green browser tab automatically on FF/IE8? DefenseWall's protection may be blocking this data in some cases (still investigating it, however :))" }-

Joe, i may have been one of those reports, and as i PM'ed you, it is not Defensewall, it's Opera (and not 10, i use 9.6something). Both IE8 and FF 3.0.1 provide the green websecure icon whereas Opera does not. another apparent anamoly is, that since i have installed .183, i can no longer open pdf files (in Opera). i receive an "internal error" dialog.

so with respect to DFW the new P3 seems compatible. Opera, at least on my box, there are issues.

EDIT: i just checked and i am unable to open pdf's in IE8, while i can in FF 3.0.11

Mike

[Baldrick]

-{ Quote: "I want to report that I am unable to take screen shots, even when allowing them, and I also want to report some weirdness with RC3.0.4.183 and MailWasher Pro. What I see is a black square around each of the buttons at the top of the MW page (Check Mail; Stop; Process Mail; Mail Program & Spam Tools.) But I can't take a screen shot of it because Prevx won't let me, even when I follow the prompts and allow FastStone Capture to take a screenie. The page I want just disappears. This also happens with MSPaint. I get a Prevx warning about the screen capture attempt, I click through saying it should be allowed, then the subject disappears. This is with GeSWall not isolating my browser.

When I switch back to isolated browser in GeSWall, there is no MailWasher Pro trouble with black buttons, and I can easily take screen shots, as seen below.

I should note that I am running an older version of MWPro, v5.3. I have not wanted or needed to upgrade. Maybe that is the problem with the black squares, but I'm still having problems allowing screen shots even when I say it's okay. :)" }-
Hi Joe

Can confirm what Page42 is reporting...and I am running the latest version 6.51 of MailWasher Pro.

???

[Page42]

I have the Prevx Web Browser Security feature disabled and that has alleviated my aforementioned problems with FastStone Capture and with MailWasher Pro.

I also began receiving multiple BSDOD's this morning...

STOP: 0X0000008E, which I believe might be related to device drivers? Unfortunately, I am looking at this Prevx RC with a skeptical eye, since I am not getting the same blue screens on my other machine, and I still have Prevx v3.0.1.65 running on it.

[Triple Helix]

Again I would like to be able to have a Delete All button if possible instead of one at a time.

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "I have the Prevx Web Browser Security feature disabled and that has alleviated my aforementioned problems with FastStone Capture and with MailWasher Pro.

I also began receiving multiple BSDOD's this morning...

STOP: 0X0000008E, which I believe might be related to device drivers? Unfortunately, I am looking at this Prevx RC with a skeptical eye, since I am not getting the same blue screens on my other machine, and I still have Prevx v3.0.1.65 running on it." }-

Sorry for the BSODs :-\ We will be investigating these ASAP - if you have any minidump files from C:\Windows\MiniDumps, could you possibly send those to report@prevxresarch.com so that we can investigate them closer?

At this point, I'd recommend uninstalling and going back to v3.0.1.65 just for stability reasons. We will have a new build out within the next couple days which should greatly improve stability throughout but will need to take a closer look at FastStone Capture/MailWasher.

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Again I would like to be able to have a Delete All button if possible instead of one at a time." }-

Added to the list :) Thank you for the suggestion!

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Joe, i may have been one of those reports, and as i PM'ed you, it is not Deensewall, it's Opera (and not 10, i use 9.6something). Both IE* and FF 3.0.1 provide the green websecure icon whereas Opera does not. another apparent anamoly is, that since i have installed .183, i can no longer open pdf files (in Opera). i receive a "internal error" dialog.

so with respect to DFW the new P3 seems compatible. Opera, at least on my box, there are issues.

EDIT: i just checked and i am unable to open pdf's in IE8, while i can in FF 3.0.11

Mike" }-

We're nearly done rewriting the Opera support entirely. Opera uses some different interfaces from IE/FF which make it non-trivial to work with but I believe we now have a stable implementation for it which will be included in the next RC update :)

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "Added to the list :) Thank you for the suggestion!" }-

Thanks!

Or a reset button?

[raven211]

-{ Quote: "Thanks!

Or a reset button?" }-

That sounds like a great alternative... simply resetting the feature's configuration to how it was out-of-box. :thumb: :)

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "That sounds like a great alternative... simply resetting the feature's configuration to how it was out-of-box. :thumb: :)" }-

Yes exactly! ;D

TH

[Baldrick]

-{ Quote: "I have the Prevx Web Browser Security feature disabled and that has alleviated my aforementioned problems with FastStone Capture and with MailWasher Pro.

I also began receiving multiple BSDOD's this morning...

STOP: 0X0000008E, which I believe might be related to device drivers? Unfortunately, I am looking at this Prevx RC with a skeptical eye, since I am not getting the same blue screens on my other machine, and I still have Prevx v3.0.1.65 running on it." }-
Apart from the Mailwasher Pro issue the RC is working perfectly and not a BSOD in sight...so my eye is far from skeptical ;)

[MatDE]

Well, I had yesterday also a BSOD with RC version:

0x1000008e (0xc0000005, 0x804ef196, 0xb3984bb0, 0x00000000)

Minidump file is already sent to report@prevxresearch.com

I am back to 3.0.1.65 because that version works fine,
so I guess I am in the skeptical camp too. ;)

[Page42]

-{ Quote: "Sorry for the BSODs :-\ We will be investigating these ASAP - if you have any minidump files from C:\Windows\MiniDumps, could you possibly send those to report@prevxresarch.com so that we can investigate them closer?

At this point, I'd recommend uninstalling and going back to v3.0.1.65 just for stability reasons. We will have a new build out within the next couple days which should greatly improve stability throughout but will need to take a closer look at FastStone Capture/MailWasher." }-
Sorry Joe, I viewed a minidump file, but then didn't save it, and now there is nothing in the folder you mentioned. I have reverted to v3.0.1.65.

[apathy]

I really enjoy this version of Prevx although it consumes more memory that the old version. The secure browser addition is really worth the price of Prevx itself. I have a problem with clipboard data and Clipmate. I disabled all of the identity protection and still Clipmate doesn't see Firefox's clipboard data.

[Page42]

-{ Quote: "Well, I had yesterday also a BSOD with RC version:

0x1000008e (0xc0000005, 0x804ef196, 0xb3984bb0, 0x00000000)

Minidump file is already sent to report@prevxresearch.com

I am back to 3.0.1.65 because that version works fine,
so I guess I am in the skeptical camp too. ;)" }-
I didn't save the minidump, but I did write down the full STOP 0X8E, in case that makes a difference...
STOP: 0X0000008E (0XC0000005, 0X804EF196, 0XAFF77BB1, 0X00000000)

[jmonge]

do i still need keyscrambler if i have the new prevx browser protection?

[Habakuck]

-{ Quote: "do i still need keyscrambler if i have the new prevx browser protection?" }-
I think not, no. If the malware is able to bypass the prevx "tunnel" it should be possible to bypass keyscrambler too. So i think it is kind of unnecessary overkill.

[Mongol]

There seems to be some conflict with the new Beta and sites that use Java animation. Not sure if it has to do with the sites themselves or what, they are Government sites but not https sites. The Java player will load but I get no animation...??? ::) :blink:

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "I think not, no. If the malware is able to bypass the prevx "tunnel" it should be possible to bypass keyscrambler too. So i think it is kind of unnecessary overkill." }-thanks,i may try this with a screenshot poc;)

[Nail64]

Does the new changes to Prevx work with EdgeGuard Solo? Do the features overlap between the two?
Thanks

Here is a link to the product page:
http://www.blueridgenetworks.com/products/edgeguard.php

[Habakuck]

Question: Will PrevX 3.5 provide Iron (Browser) support?

[Threedog]

Trying out the Prevx Beta with a LUA account with Surun and noticed something a little strange. When you use the browser normally the Surun tray icon stays it's usual green smiley face and if you hover your mouse over it the standard user popup comes up. However, if you go to a secured site where the Browser Protection kicks in the Surun tray icon goes to blue with a question mark and will stay that way until you close and reopen the browser. Does this with Firefox or IE8. Seems to be along the same line as Defensewall loosing the browser banner when doing things in the same manner.

[Mongol]

-{ Quote: "There seems to be some conflict with the new Beta and sites that use Java animation. Not sure if it has to do with the sites themselves or what, they are Government sites but not https sites. The Java player will load but I get no animation...??? ::) :blink:" }-

Well.....seems to be working ok now...:blink: :dry: :)

[dorgane]

hi,
i am noob and my english is very bad, but i have windows seven 64 bits and in prevvx i don't see web protection :

212185


thank you

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "hi,
i am noob and my english is very bad, but i have windows seven 64 bits and in prevvx i don't see web protection :

212185


thank you" }-

Look here in the first post!

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1536311&postcount=1

-{ Quote: " 64bit: http://info.prevx.com/download.asp?grab=edgebeta64 (the web security functionality is not 64bit compatible yet but there are significant improvements "under-the-hood" of Prevx for 64bit still)" }-

TH

[dorgane]

oh ok, sorrry :wacko:

[Triple Helix]

-{ Quote: "oh ok, sorrry :wacko:" }-

Not a problem! :thumb:

TH

[BrendanK.]

Got a crash today :( Only running Prevx + Online Armor.

Error log is attached.

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Got a crash today :( Only running Prevx + Online Armor.

Error log is attached." }-

Thank you for the information - we will be investigating this shortly :)

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "I really enjoy this version of Prevx although it consumes more memory that the old version. The secure browser addition is really worth the price of Prevx itself. I have a problem with clipboard data and Clipmate. I disabled all of the identity protection and still Clipmate doesn't see Firefox's clipboard data." }-

We will be making the configuration easier to work with but we've designed it to intentionally block clipboard readers - you will most likely need to temporarily disable the Prevx protection temporarily to allow it to read the data.

The memory usage should only be marginally higher (less than 1MB higher, which is just because of the additional graphics in the new version) but let me know if you are seeing anything different :)

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Trying out the Prevx Beta with a LUA account with Surun and noticed something a little strange. When you use the browser normally the Surun tray icon stays it's usual green smiley face and if you hover your mouse over it the standard user popup comes up. However, if you go to a secured site where the Browser Protection kicks in the Surun tray icon goes to blue with a question mark and will stay that way until you close and reopen the browser. Does this with Firefox or IE8. Seems to be along the same line as Defensewall loosing the browser banner when doing things in the same manner." }-

I suspect this is because of the process isolation - I'm not sure how much we will be able to modify with this/Defensewall's messaging without reducing security as we need to be "all or nothing" in many cases to block malware from accessing the browser :-\

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Sorry Joe, I viewed a minidump file, but then didn't save it, and now there is nothing in the folder you mentioned. I have reverted to v3.0.1.65." }-

No problem - we received a minidump from another user here which let us locate/fix the problem.

We will have the next version ready early next week which will prevent this issue from happening in the future :)

Thank you for the details!

[Threedog]

-{ Quote: "I suspect this is because of the process isolation - I'm not sure how much we will be able to modify with this/Defensewall's messaging without reducing security as we need to be "all or nothing" in many cases to block malware from accessing the browser :-\" }-

That's cool. I was just making sure that it wasn't jumping up some part of the browser to "Administrator" level unintentionally. Defensewall's messaging isn't a big issue for me. It still indicates properly in the icon itself and I have tested and Defensewall still works as always.

Otherwise the Beta is working good. No issues with it in LUA on XP. :thumb:

[Page42]

-{ Quote: "No problem - we received a minidump from another user here which let us locate/fix the problem.

We will have the next version ready early next week which will prevent this issue from happening in the future :)

Thank you for the details!" }-
I like the way you handle your business. I'm patient, and I look forward to the next version. :)

[Baldrick]

-{ Quote: "I like the way you handle your business. I'm patient, and I look forward to the next version. :)" }-
That why we all love Prevx (and Joe)...true professionals who know who is important in the overall equation...but also because it is a cracking product. :thumb:

PS. Joe, still nothing to report in terms of clashes with KIS 2010 current release version (9.0.0.463 b) although I know that there is a CF2 release due at some point soon...but not sure exactly when. ;D

Also, I have now ditched AVG LinkScanner as I do not think that I need it anymore with Web Secure Browser functionality enabled.

[pegas]

Hi folks,
So far using 3.0.1.65 but carefully watching Prevx beta development. New features seem very interesting and will definitely increase the Prevxs power and efficiency :thumb:. However my policy is to keep out of betas, RCs etc. Therefore I would kindly ask when the new upgrade featuring RCs enhancements is foreseen. I know that it can happen when all issues with RCs are solved and thus ready for public use but would really appreciate ETA. BTW, does web security work in Opera 10? I use IE8 infrequently.
Thanks,
pegas

P.S. Should your reply be of kind "we will launch it once finished", please rather dont revert, as I am really fed up from such replies on other forums ;D.

[PrevxHelp]

-{ Quote: "Hi folks,
So far using 3.0.1.65 but carefully watching Prevx beta development. New features seem very interesting and will definitely increase the Prevxs power and efficiency :thumb:. However my policy is to keep out of betas, RCs etc. Therefore I would kindly ask when the new upgrade featuring RCs enhancements is foreseen. I know that it can happen when all issues with RCs are solved and thus ready for public use but would really appreciate ETA. BTW, does web security work in Opera 10? I use IE8 infrequently." }-

Currently the .183 version doesn't work properly with Opera v10 but our new test version has corrected this and we should have the next RC out by Monday or Tuesday. The official release is still approx. 1-2 weeks away but it largely depends on testing: many of the large AV vendors have made very significant changes to their beta products so we've had to double our testing by going through all of their 2010/2009/2008 versions on IE/FF/Chrome/Opera on 98/NT4/2000/XP/2003/Vista/2008/7... there are literally thousands of combinations so we're trying to get as many as physically possible :)

-{ Quote: "P.S. Should your reply be of kind "we will launch it once finished", please rather dont revert, as I am really fed up from such replies on other forums ;D." }-

Timelines are always a bit dynamic but we try and give users something accurate to go on rather than string them along indefinitely :)

[pegas]

-{ Quote: "Currently the .183 version doesn't work properly with Opera v10 but our new test version has corrected this and we should have the next RC out by Monday or Tuesday. The official release is still approx. 1-2 weeks away but it largely depends on testing: many of the large AV vendors have made very significant changes to their beta products so we've had to double our testing by going through all of their 2010/2009/2008 versions on IE/FF/Chrome/Opera on 98/NT4/2000/XP/2003/Vista/2008/7... there are literally thousands of combinations so we're trying to get as many as physically possible :)



Timelines are always a bit dynamic but we try and give users something accurate to go on rather than string them along indefinitely :)" }-

Thanks for info. I really appreciate your explanation and the given time frame.

[pipiscrew]

with v3.0.4.183 I have troubles...

when install it (firefox is closed)

-install
-scan
-ctrl+shift+esc to see the process

firefox is already open (in background,no window appear in taskbar) and eat 70% from memory

[LagerX]

Windows is acting weird and I can't uninstall Prevx RC from my computer via CCleaner nor with uninstaller tool :P
Uninstaller tools says that Prevx CSI has been removed, but it isn't :D
Seems like it has hang on my system. I will restart tomorrow and try again.

[Triple Helix]

Did you try this?

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1537841&postcount=2

TH

[PrevxHelp]

Hello all,
v3.0.4.191 has now been released for update - your agents will automatically catch it on their next scheduled scan or you can click Check for Updates and apply the update that way :)

I'll lock this thread for now as many of the issues are fixed already - a discussion over v3.0.4.191 will take place starting here: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=253396

Thank you all for your testing! :thumb: