Kaspersky

[volvic]

Over at http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Kaspersky-AntiVirus/1008918303/1 Kaspersky is in beta

In the US Kaspersky has not been released in its 2010 incarnation

In the rest of the world, it has

WTF are they playing at?

[entropism]

The US version of 2010 was released a while back. Did you miss it on their home page?

[Ade 1]

@Volvic - so you're interested in Kaspersky now!? After your comment on the Eset forum?

"KIS and KAV are horrible monstrosities, which make your machine sluggish (although clearly it must work for some people ....)!"

Anyway, 2010 has been released for like 2 months now.

[Sjoeii]

It has been released for a while now. You can download the latest here; http://www.kaspersky.com/productupdates

[sourav_gho]

You can get the latest stable versions form here..

Internet Security
http://www.kaspersky.com/kis_latest_versions

Antivirus
http://www.kaspersky.com/kav_latest_versions

[lordpake]

-{ Quote: "WTF are they playing at?" }-
They are not playing anything. Betanews lists the newer BETA version, the actual release version has lower build number :) (.691 vs. .463)

[mvdu]

-{ Quote: "You can get the latest stable versions form here..

Internet Security
http://www.kaspersky.com/kis_latest_versions

Antivirus
http://www.kaspersky.com/kav_latest_versions" }-

I have changed setups a lot, but like trjam, I have a favorite - KIS. It just doesn't work on my computer as well as some others. Even the more stable versions of KIS 2010 slow browsing and freeze a little on large threads.

[sourav_gho]

-{ Quote: "I have changed setups a lot, but like trjam, I have a favorite - KIS. It just doesn't work on my computer as well as some others. Even the more stable versions of KIS 2010 slow browsing and freeze a little on large threads." }-


ok buddy...I know u tried but please try again... :)
Ok... please post the GSI log and traces of KIS in their forums they are on the process of releasing Critical Fix 2(Beta testing going on), so ur problems might be fixed, the developers need to find the root of ur problems(GSI logs +traces). You can post your issues in performance and compatibility thread of beta testing
PS: In my system KIS 2010 build 463 is running very smooth no issues. I also had some issues in build 459, like BSOD and system instability with GOM player and winamp, I posted in their forum with traces and details and it was fixed in build 463.

[volvic]

-{ Quote: "@Volvic - so you're interested in Kaspersky now!? After your comment on the Eset forum?

"KIS and KAV are horrible monstrosities, which make your machine sluggish (although clearly it must work for some people ....)!"

Anyway, 2010 has been released for like 2 months now." }-

You are quoting me out of context, refer to my other posts as well before making assumptions, please.

[mvdu]

-{ Quote: "ok buddy...I know u tried but please try again... :)
Ok... please post the GSI log and traces of KIS in their forums they are on the process of releasing Critical Fix 2(Beta testing going on), so ur problems might be fixed, the developers need to find the root of ur problems(GSI logs +traces). You can post your issues in performance and compatibility thread of beta testing
PS: In my system KIS 2010 build 463 is running very smooth no issues. I also had some issues in build 459, like BSOD and system instability with GOM player and winamp, I posted in their forum with traces and details and it was fixed in build 463." }-

I'm thinking the browsing slowdown might just be how the web AV scans and there's not much that can be done. Since the delay isn't THAT long but long enough to notice. The slight freezes are perplexing, though.

[sourav_gho]

-{ Quote: "I'm thinking the browsing slowdown might just be how the web AV scans and there's not much that can be done. Since the delay isn't THAT long but long enough to notice. The slight freezes are perplexing, though." }-
ok it could from anything maybe bcoz of any software... its always better to post the problems and u can get it fixed:thumb:

[mvdu]

-{ Quote: "ok it could from anything maybe bcoz of any software... its always better to post the problems and u can get it fixed:thumb:" }-

Thanks, perhaps the freezes can be solved at least. I'll try with Prevx off first.

[sourav_gho]

-{ Quote: "I'm thinking the browsing slowdown might just be how the web AV scans and there's not much that can be done. Since the delay isn't THAT long but long enough to notice. The slight freezes are perplexing, though." }-
ok it could from anything maybe bcoz of any software... its always better to post the problems and u can get it fixed:thumb:
Anyways, did u tried surfing by disabling web av?

[mvdu]

-{ Quote: "ok it could from anything maybe bcoz of any software... its always better to post the problems and u can get it fixed:thumb:
Anyways, did u tried surfing by disabling web av?" }-

Yes, turning off Web AV helps.

[trjam]

but wouldnt turning off web av make rogue sites more of a issue.

[mvdu]

-{ Quote: "but wouldnt turning off web av make rogue sites more of a issue." }-

There's a slight risk; probably not worth worrying about since I'm not a high risk surfer.

[sourav_gho]

-{ Quote: "There's a slight risk; probably not worth worrying about since I'm not a high risk surfer." }-
Hey man u can always surf in kaspersky sandbox(saferun) while surfing... ;)

[trjam]

.691 has to be the worst beta yet. I mean I could live with the last but the was the first that ever did self shut downs and ask me to send the info. To much, to much, simplify the product again, please.

[Sjoeii]

-{ Quote: ".691 has to be the worst beta yet. I mean I could live with the last but the was the first that ever did self shut downs and ask me to send the info. To much, to much, simplify the product again, please." }-
Please be patient Trjam.
It will be back. Lot's of bugs are collected and they will solve it

[volvic]

-{ Quote: "Please be patient Trjam.
It will be back. Lot's of bugs are collected and they will solve it" }-

They need to rewrite it from the ground up.

[Cherub]

How much protection do you lose by staying with KIS 2009 and not upgrading to KIS 2010? Right now, that's what I'm doing and just waiting until some of these problems get fixed.

[xxJackxx]

-{ Quote: ".691 has to be the worst beta yet. I mean I could live with the last but the was the first that ever did self shut downs and ask me to send the info. To much, to much, simplify the product again, please." }-

Same problem here, .691 is just plain unstable. I hope they fix it, and the annoying right click explorer.exe crash that has existed for months.

[sourav_gho]

-{ Quote: "Same problem here, .691 is just plain unstable. I hope they fix it, and the annoying right click explorer.exe crash that has existed for months." }-
Friends,
.691 is a beta version, and it will be updated to next beta in next few days, so it is bound to be unstable, .691 is for beta testing, if you are using it, please upload the traces along with issues you are facing, the next stable version you use is almost guaranteed to be stable in your system. Thatz what I emphasized before and I am telling again, I also had issues i traced and posted in their forum, and I am enjoying it presently in my system without any issues.

[sourav_gho]

-{ Quote: "How much protection do you lose by staying with KIS 2009 and not upgrading to KIS 2010? Right now, that's what I'm doing and just waiting until some of these problems get fixed." }-
Hi,
Developers are doing their best and lot of bugs are collected. But to make double sure you could post your issues along with traces, it would most probably be fixed

[Baz_kasp]

Hi guys,

The purpose of the beta testing that Kaspersky conduct is to find such bugs, and fix them before a build is called a "release" build..... I find that Kaspersky certainly allow the public testing of quite "raw" builds with obvious bugs pr imcomplete functionaltiy, but people who do test should be well aware of the risks and bugs because it is plastered all over the beta forum in bolded lettering. The main problem lies with other tech sites which upload the beta builds without adequate warning that they are unstable and are not yet optimised. I get the impression a lot of people assume that "beta" builds are reflective of the final product and therefore those bugs that are in one beta build will surely be in the final....which is incorrect.....even a product at technical release status can undergo bugfixes and changes before official release...

When new technology is introduced into builds, or settings are changed, crashes/hangs and other bugs are bound to occur and this is the reason why we test- so these bugs are found, and fixed in the next release version. It is not reflective of the quality of the final product.

[Sjoeii]

-{ Quote: "They need to rewrite it from the ground up." }-
Why?
If you just post your bugs at the right place people can work on the bugs and solve them

[Cherub]

-{ Quote: "Hi,
Developers are doing their best and lot of bugs are collected. But to make double sure you could post your issues along with traces, it would most probably be fixed" }-


I just had the same slowdown problems others have talked about. KIS 2009 works really good on my machine and I'm happy with it, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything essential from upgrading to KIS 2010. I don't mind waiting as long as KIS 2009 is still considered to be doing the job.

[JasSolo]

-{ Quote: "Hey man u can always surf in kaspersky sandbox(saferun) while surfing... ;)" }-

True, but it doesn't work in Windows 7 :'(


Cheers

[Sjoeii]

This is one of the things which is being tested

[sourav_gho]

-{ Quote: "True, but it doesn't work in Windows 7 :'(


Cheers" }-
Hey once critical fix 2 is released it will be...:)

[JasSolo]

Yup..and Windows 7 isn't even out yet, "only" in RC stage...again a big :thumb: to Kaspersky, for being in front of things :) .


Cheers

[volvic]

When is CF2 coming out?

"Critical fix" - this should have been ironed out in beta testing. Kaspersky is now behaving like Microsoft, it would seem.

[3x0gR13N]

Most likely in October, when W7 is released.

[Ade 1]

-{ Quote: "When is CF2 coming out?

"Critical fix" - this should have been ironed out in beta testing. Kaspersky is now behaving like Microsoft, it would seem." }-

I think you really need to leave Kaspersky alone and go somewhere else. All the posts you ever make about Kaspersky are negative and not constructive.

[volvic]

Do you work for them? Are they paying you? I doubt it.

My posts are very constructive. Now YOU go and get a life.

[dawgg]

-{ Quote: ""Critical fix" - this should have been ironed out in beta testing. Kaspersky is now behaving like Microsoft, it would seem." }-
As you have shown above, I agree, Kaspersky should call it "Update#" or "SP#" instead. They're the same thing, but people get scared and jump to conclusions because of the words "Critical fix" and imagine it to be a huge bug/problem in the previous build.

CF2's primary change is Windows7 compatibility, of course, its difficult to test on something which wasn't yet finalized, which is why it couldn't have been ironed out in beta testing ;)

Most bugs are ironed out during beta testing and there is no point reiterating about testing/fixing procedures and complications of testing amongst so many software and hardware configurations being extremely difficult and time-consuming etc - as we already know about all this and complications during software development phases - or at least testers/developers know about it anyway.

Most software companies are always constantly developing, tweaking and fixing their software, which is why most software always have a constant flow of new updates, versions, patches etc coming out. Its inevitable and there's always room for improvement for any product.

[volvic]

@Dawgg... that is interesting to know, puts a different perspective on it.

Are you using KIS. Do you find the updating download speed (as compared to say NOD32) to be slow?

[dawgg]

-{ Quote: "Are you using KIS. Do you find the updating download speed (as compared to say NOD32) to be slow?" }-
Yes, I am using KIS. I'm afraid I cannot comment on that as I have not recently used NOD32 (recently being some years).

[Sjoeii]

-{ Quote: "@Dawgg... that is interesting to know, puts a different perspective on it.

Are you using KIS. Do you find the updating download speed (as compared to say NOD32) to be slow?" }-
I did some testing and KIS was faster for me than Eset

[Paul Wilders]

-{ Quote: " Do you find the updating download speed (as compared to say NOD32) to be slow?" }-

Just for the record: A versus B threads is entering a no go area. Please stick to the subject at hand: Kaspersky.