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ako
August 28th, 2009, 04:35 PM
I tested MBAM with 10 malware. It stopped 5 with and only with its "IP protection" during connecting to the infected sites, but other pdf-exploits, trojans, and rogues went through.
IP protection
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8475/mb5d.jpg
pdf-exploit
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6876/mb2h.jpg
Rogue (french :)
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8094/mb3z.jpg
Rogue
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3900/mb4f.jpg
I scanned first with Prevx. It found 7 different infections, including a rootkit. Then I scanned and cleaned with MBAM, rebooted and scanned again: clean.
Prevx found still two malware files, but no active infection was present anymore.
So: MBAM gives some real-time protection, but it is suprisingly low when compared to its good cleaning capabilities.
P.S. Notice in figures, that Prevx real-time protection is still not working in my VM, showing green. Hopefully the reason is found soon.
jmonge
August 28th, 2009, 04:56 PM
cool test;)
Franklin
August 28th, 2009, 06:14 PM
Seven of the latest morphed installers for PC Antispyware 2010 scanned from MBAM's right click:
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Franklin
August 28th, 2009, 06:40 PM
Newish rogue - SaveDefense:
-{ Quote: "File setup.exe received on 2009.08.28 22:23:22 (UTC)
Result: 5/41 (12.2%)" }-
MBAM hits this new rogue no probs but the point I want to make is that any and all blacklist vendors want any samples they don't hit.
If you get your samples over to em detections/cleanups will be included asap.
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Zimzi
August 28th, 2009, 08:47 PM
-{ Quote: "That's what happens when you rely on a black-lister/behaviour-blocker. 5/10 is probably about right. " }-
It would be very interesting to test Threatfire with the same malware samples.
If ako would be so kind to test TF for us or send them to me ... :argh:
StevieO
August 28th, 2009, 08:50 PM
SaveDefense
Looks nice, how much ?
Franklin
August 28th, 2009, 08:59 PM
-{ Quote: "SaveDefense
Looks nice, how much ?" }-
Have PM'd you the price StevieO. ;)
andyman35
August 28th, 2009, 09:49 PM
-{ Quote: "SaveDefense
Looks nice, how much ?" }-
If the guys creating the GUI for these rogues ever decided to go straight,they'd be in great demand from some legitimate vendors.:dry:
firzen771
August 28th, 2009, 10:43 PM
-{ Quote: "If the guys creating the GUI for these rogues ever decided to go straight,they'd be in great demand from some legitimate vendors.:dry:" }-
lol too true...
bellgamin
August 28th, 2009, 10:44 PM
-{ Quote: "SaveDefense
Looks nice, how much ?" }-AFAIK SaveDefense is a well-recognized ROGUE. Google the name "savedefense" to see for yourself. I am puzzled as to why Franklin seems to be promoting a rogue software. Have I been misinformed?
Dregg Heda
August 28th, 2009, 11:12 PM
I thought MBAM was poor in detecting static files? Is this true?
thathagat
August 29th, 2009, 02:52 AM
-{ Quote: "It stopped 5 with and only with its "IP protection" " }-
but its IP protection does not seem to diferentiate b/w the good and the bad it blocks regardless....maybe its a new feature so it'll improve
-{ Quote: "So: MBAM gives some real-time protection, but it is suprisingly low when compared to its good cleaning capabilities." }-
well...that's not the first time i've heard that.
P.S.
Ako ! thanks for testing
progress
August 29th, 2009, 03:28 AM
-{ Quote: "
So: MBAM gives some real-time protection, but it is suprisingly low when compared to its good cleaning capabilities.
" }-
PCMag some months ago: However, the real-time protection in the $24.95 Pro edition just doesn't do the job. If I were rating the Pro edition, which promises both cleaning and protection, I'd probably give it 2.5 stars. Go ahead and add the free scanner to your security arsenal :)
Franklin
August 29th, 2009, 03:47 AM
-{ Quote: "I thought MBAM was poor in detecting static files? Is this true?" }-
If you take into account the amount of installers just for one rogue floating around you will see that it's quite a job to keep up with them for all blacklist vendors.
Even though the installer might not be hit straight up the install itself should be hit if the install path stays the same.
Below are some of my sample installers for the rogue "Personal Antivirus" and trust me there are way way more out there with new morphs being released every coupla days.
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Franklin
August 29th, 2009, 04:06 AM
-{ Quote: "AFAIK SaveDefense is a well-recognized ROGUE. Google the name "savedefense" to see for yourself. I am puzzled as to why Franklin seems to be promoting a rogue software. Have I been misinformed?" }-
bellgamin, I like these rogue apps as much as I like our politicians.
Here's another newish rogue for ya.
-{ Quote: "File setup.exe received on 2009.08.29 07:48:41 (UTC)
Result: 4/41 (9.76%)" }-
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stackz
August 29th, 2009, 04:44 AM
That BlockDefense looks very familiar ::) If only I could think where I've seen it. ;)
Franklin
August 29th, 2009, 04:54 AM
-{ Quote: "That BlockDefense looks very familiar ::) If only I could think where I've seen it. ;)" }-
Ya seen one ya seen em all. Well almost. ;D
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Franklin
August 29th, 2009, 04:56 AM
TrustNinja :wacko:
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Franklin
August 29th, 2009, 05:04 AM
SaveSoldier :blink: and there's more but I'll stop here as I don't want to bore you all to death.
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LagerX
August 29th, 2009, 05:06 AM
-{ Quote: "Ya seen one ya seen em all. Well almost. ;D
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http://blog.trendmicro.com/investigations-on-a-cybercrime-hub-in-estonia/
http://us.trendmicro.com/imperia/md/content/us/trendwatch/researchandanalysis/a_cybercrime_hub.pdf
Interesting read :thumb: :-\
ako
August 29th, 2009, 05:42 AM
-{ Quote: "It would be very interesting to test Threatfire with the same malware samples.
If ako would be so kind to test TF for us or send them to me ... :argh:" }-
Hi!
I don't personally find TF too interesting.
I never use local samples. I download them during testing or just visit an exploit site. This way I try to make sure they are real 0-day threats. After testing I usually delete that copy of VM.
Anyway, such a test should give similar (good) results as Matt's at remove-malware. See http://www.youtube.com/user/mrizos
ako
August 29th, 2009, 05:43 AM
-{ Quote: "
P.S.
Ako ! thanks for testing" }-
You are welcome! ;)
TonyW
August 29th, 2009, 07:46 AM
-{ Quote: "MBAM hits this new rogue no probs but the point I want to make is that any and all blacklist vendors want any samples they don't hit." }-In theory, that's how it should be, but unfortunately, in some instances when you send a sample, the analysts reply to say there's no malicious code in the file so it doesn't get added. I've had this with Kaspersky Lab a few times when submitting rogues although, to be fair to KL, they are adding detection for fraudulent programs as not-a-virus:FraudTool, so I don't know why they don't add the submissions to that category also.
This is the issue that has come across in various threads when discussing the detection of rogues in general. Some anti-malware vendors are better than others at this game; others are taking longer to add them as it requires more analysis, especially if the file is said to be "clean".
bellgamin
August 29th, 2009, 07:02 PM
-{ Quote: "bellgamin, I like these rogue apps as much as I like our politicians." }-Good grief! They are all soooo pretty. Ergo, they must be good AVs, right? Umm.. wrong. 8)
BTW, my attitude toward politicians is much the same as a fire hydrant's attitude toward dogs.
BrendanK.
August 29th, 2009, 07:06 PM
-{ Quote: "SaveSoldier :blink: and there's more but I'll stop here as I don't want to bore you all to death.
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Funny you put that up. I just came across another variant of that Rogue a few days ago. 0/41 on VT, and still today only 1/41 :)
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