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whitedragon551
August 22nd, 2009, 08:32 PM
I currently use Comodo without Defense + on. I also use Avira Antivir. Im thinking about switching from Comodo to a lighter FW. I play alot of games and need as many resources as possible.

Any others that are just at good at protection without being annoying?
Any others have a user interface that is as easy and straight forward?
Any others have ARP, SPI, etc detection?
Any others have the ability to stealth ports that arent used?

I have checked Matousec, but it doesnt give the answers Im looking for.

JohnnyDollar
August 22nd, 2009, 08:41 PM
-{ Quote: "I currently use Comodo without Defense + on. I also use Avira Antivir. Im thinking about switching from Comodo to a lighter FW. I play alot of games and need as many resources as possible.

Any others that are just at good at protection without being annoying?
Any others have a user interface that is as easy and straight forward?
Any others have ARP, SPI, etc detection?
Any others have the ability to stealth ports that arent used?

I have checked Matousec, but it doesnt give the answers Im looking for." }-

Are you wanting a free one?

whitedragon551
August 22nd, 2009, 08:42 PM
Free would be fantastic, but for the right interface and options Ill consider pay.

JohnnyDollar
August 22nd, 2009, 08:50 PM
-{ Quote: "Free would be fantastic, but for the right interface and options Ill consider pay." }-

I run Vistax64 like you, so it narrows your options. I use Comodo (firewall only) myself also, but am seriously considering trying out Look n Stop http://www.looknstop.com/En/index2.htm
Private Firewall didn't work on my x64 rig. Jetico is light I think http://www.jetico.com/firewall-jetico-personal-firewall/ I am not sure if Outpost free is any lighter than Comodo with defense plus disabled.

HKEY1952
August 22nd, 2009, 08:52 PM
Have you ever considered implementing the Microsoft Vista Ultimate two way firewall, or, at minimum, the inbound protection?


HKEY1952

whitedragon551
August 22nd, 2009, 08:59 PM
-{ Quote: "Have you ever considered implementing the Microsoft Vista Ultimate two way firewall, or, at minimum, the inbound protection?


HKEY1952" }-

Not really. It does poorly in all reviews.

JohnnyDollar
August 22nd, 2009, 09:00 PM
Vista x64 Firewall control is super lite, but doesn't offer any more protection than Vista firewall. http://www.sphinx-soft.com/Vista/order.html

How much ram will that laptop hold?

whitedragon551
August 22nd, 2009, 09:02 PM
I have 3Gbs. It will take up to 4. I can send you my Paypal if you want. $40 sound good? I just havent dropped the money for it yet since I dont have it. Hence the reason free would be fantastic.

Jetico doesnt really have a very nice, streamlined interface. Its rather ugly just look Look N Stop.

HKEY1952
August 22nd, 2009, 09:05 PM
-{ Quote: "Not really. It does poorly in all reviews." }-

Do not go by reviews, go by your own experience.....try it.....if it is not to your satisfaction, then you know.


HKEY1952

JohnnyDollar
August 22nd, 2009, 09:06 PM
-{ Quote: "I have 3Gbs. It will take up to 4. I can send you my Paypal if you want. $40 sound good? I just havent dropped the money for it yet since I dont have it. Hence the reason free would be fantastic.

Jetico doesnt really have a very nice, streamlined interface. Its rather ugly just look Look N Stop." }-

They don't have an attractive gui. That vista x64 firewall control has a free and paid version. It's gui is extremely easy, not pretty but simple. It uses the same api as vista firewall, just makes it easier to control app access.

JohnnyDollar
August 22nd, 2009, 09:10 PM
-{ Quote: "Do not go by reviews, go by your own experience.....try it.....if it is not to your satisfaction, then you know.


HKEY1952" }-

I agree with HKEY1952, Matousec puts those firewalls through a gauntlet of tests, and a lot of those tests do not pertain to what a pure firewall does. I think most people will tell you that Look n Stop is an excellent firewall for example, but look how poorly they do on Matousec.

whitedragon551
August 22nd, 2009, 09:10 PM
-{ Quote: "Do not go by reviews, go by your own experience.....try it.....if it is not to your satisfaction, then you know.


HKEY1952" }-

This is a mix between security and the above mentioned things. Windows built in firewall doesnt cover security.

What about Outpost Pro? Anyone have any info on the amount of resources that it uses?

JohnnyDollar
August 22nd, 2009, 09:21 PM
Private Firewall has a nice gui and is simple. The x64 version doesn't have a process monitor, which sounds like you don't want anyway. I couldn't get it to block access to anything on my x64 machine, but it may work on yours. If you have sp2 installed the memory usage is very low.

JohnnyDollar
August 22nd, 2009, 09:26 PM
-{ Quote: "This is a mix between security and the above mentioned things. Windows built in firewall doesnt cover security.

What about Outpost Pro? Anyone have any info on the amount of resources that it uses?" }-

I think about the same as Comodo with defense plus turned off.

HKEY1952
August 22nd, 2009, 09:30 PM
-{ Quote: "This is a mix between security and the above mentioned things. Windows built in firewall doesnt cover security.

What about Outpost Pro? Anyone have any info on the amount of resources that it uses?" }-

It most certainly does cover security, however, I will not try to convince you otherwise whitedragon551. I will only leave you with this:
My test computer has no active or installed firewall or antivirus for over seven months now.....no problems, no attacks, fast computer, all behind an Firewall Router.
For peace of mind, at least implement the Vista Firewall inbound protection.....have fun gamming!


HKEY1952

JohnnyDollar
August 22nd, 2009, 09:41 PM
I would add this suggestion. If your games that you are playing are not online, then just disable your network connection then turn Comodo off and then play your game. That is of course if the game is not online. Other than that I don't know of any other firewalls other than what I have suggested for x64 Vista that come close to what you want.

whitedragon551
August 22nd, 2009, 10:52 PM
Im going to give Agnitum Outpost Pro a try. I keep getting an error though at install along with an unsigned driver.

JohnnyDollar
August 23rd, 2009, 07:58 AM
-{ Quote: "Im going to give Agnitum Outpost Pro a try. I keep getting an error though at install along with an unsigned driver." }-
How did Outpost workout?

whitedragon551
August 23rd, 2009, 08:50 AM
Im currently testing it. It has a nice interface. Fairly easy to use. Has a few more features than Comodo did.

JohnnyDollar
August 23rd, 2009, 09:17 AM
-{ Quote: "Im currently testing it. It has a nice interface. Fairly easy to use. Has a few more features than Comodo did." }-

I would have suggested it, but thought you wanted one lighter than that.

cqpreson
August 23rd, 2009, 09:58 AM
Maybe,PCTools is a good choice.But just PCTools 5.0.Because my friend used PCTools 6.0,and felt annoyed.
6.0 is not stabler than 5.0.

JohnnyDollar
August 23rd, 2009, 11:10 AM
-{ Quote: "Maybe,PCTools is a good choice.But just PCTools 5.0.Because my friend used PCTools 6.0,and felt annoyed.
6.0 is not stabler than 5.0." }-

Yeh but... PC Tools 5.0 isn't x64 compatible

dell boy
August 23rd, 2009, 11:30 AM
may i ask what the problem with windows firewall is?
if its not broken, dont fix it.

entropism
August 23rd, 2009, 11:46 AM
At this point, considering the OP was using Comodo with D+ turned off, he's not worried about a HIPS too much. I'd suggest Rising FW, to be honest. GUI is nice and clean, it works well, it's light, and no HIPS.

funkydude
August 23rd, 2009, 12:16 PM
-{ Quote: "may i ask what the problem with windows firewall is?
if its not broken, dont fix it." }-

No problem, but since it's free, it doesn't need to advertise marketing gimmicks like "advanced" and "100%". As so, people feel less secure with it and view it as inferior.

whitedragon551
August 23rd, 2009, 04:29 PM
-{ Quote: "may i ask what the problem with windows firewall is?
if its not broken, dont fix it." }-

Already been stated. Im looking for something light. Outpost doesnt fit the bill. It weighs in at about 50,000K just idle.

HIPS isnt necessary.

EDIT- Rising FW is very nice. Its easy, light, and has a very nice interface. It didnt fair to well in Matousecs ratings though. Also its not free.

JohnnyDollar
August 23rd, 2009, 09:26 PM
See if you can get private firewall to work. It has a memory leak, but the leak doesn't exist if you have sp2 installed. If you can get it to work, then it is nice and lite, and did well on matousec.

whitedragon551
August 23rd, 2009, 09:27 PM
Im happy with Rising. Just cant shell out $20 for it right now.

entropism
August 23rd, 2009, 11:22 PM
Rising is free, look around here for it.

Secondly, if you don't care about HIPS, you CAN NOT go by Matousec's reports, as the project reports on HIPS, not firewalls.

whitedragon551
August 23rd, 2009, 11:54 PM
-{ Quote: "Comodo Firewall is very light, and is free for life." }-

Not as light as others. It weighed in at nearly 50,000K. Rising takes up no more than 10,000K. It also takes up less HD space and isnt as bloated.

thathagat
August 24th, 2009, 12:03 AM
-{ Quote: "Im happy with Rising. Just cant shell out $20 for it right now." }-
try this....http://rsdownload.rising.com.cn/for_down/rsfree/rfwfree09.exe

Iam_me
August 24th, 2009, 03:42 AM
If this forum wasn't all about sells contracts you would get the decent advice to pay up for more ram, not go buy this or that. The impact would be minimal.

Both Outpost and CIS is light. Your computer sucks. Buy some additional components to it if you feel like playing modern games.

Dregg Heda
August 24th, 2009, 09:20 AM
-{ Quote: "try this....http://rsdownload.rising.com.cn/for_down/rsfree/rfwfree09.exe" }-
Does rising free have boot protection, spi(atleast a state table), and is it able to assign different profiles to different wireless networks? Does it come with HIPS that at minimum can prevent low-level/direcct disk access?

whitedragon551
August 24th, 2009, 10:16 PM
-{ Quote: "If this forum wasn't all about sells contracts you would get the decent advice to pay up for more ram, not go buy this or that. The impact would be minimal.

Both Outpost and CIS is light. Your computer sucks. Buy some additional components to it if you feel like playing modern games." }-

Ha ha my computer is a laptop. Whats yours? Not to mention it handles everything I throw at it with no problems what so ever.

JohnnyDollar
August 24th, 2009, 10:26 PM
Hey whitedragon551,

I figured out that my problem with Private Firewall was Nod32 v3, so if you got vista sp2 (because of the memory leak issue) installed you ought to try Private Firewall out, you may like it, and it's light and free. :thumb:

BTW I am using Vista Firewall with Advanced Security and it seems to work just fine, nothing gets through unless it matches a rule.:)

Anonymous696
August 25th, 2009, 09:44 AM
-{ Quote: "Comodo Firewall is very light, and is free for life." }-
-{ Quote: "Not as light as others. It weighed in at nearly 50,000K." }-
-{ Quote: "Hmm, cfp.exe is currently using 3400K of RAM on my system (I'm only using the Firewall alone)." }-

At the moment my CIS(Comodo Internet Security) install is using less than 10,000 K, and I'm using all of its protection (Firewall, D+, and AV). Though the VM(Virtual Memory) size is around 75,000 K, and seems to (temporary) fly upwards (2XX,XXX K) when there's an (Comodo)AV update.

Pain of Salvation
August 25th, 2009, 10:51 PM
I'm searching for a light firewall too... Outpost conflicts with NOD32 v4. Everything crashes.

Have you tried Rising firewall?

whitedragon551
August 25th, 2009, 11:11 PM
-{ Quote: "I'm searching for a light firewall too... Outpost conflicts with NOD32 v4. Everything crashes.

Have you tried Rising firewall?" }-

Yes. Very light, very easy to use, 92 day trial. The only thing I dislike is the ability to stealth ports.

firzen771
August 26th, 2009, 11:16 AM
-{ Quote: "I'm searching for a light firewall too... Outpost conflicts with NOD32 v4. Everything crashes.

Have you tried Rising firewall?" }-

if ur comfortable with rules then u wont find anything lighter than Look n Stop.

Pain of Salvation
August 26th, 2009, 07:44 PM
What about PC Tools Firewall? I think it is based on Look'n'Stop.

Gullible Jones
August 26th, 2009, 09:30 PM
So far my favorite choice for a light firewall is Softperfect; it's not heavy on features, but looks like a decent replacement for Kerio.

BTW, Pain of Salvation is *awesome*. Glad to see another fan. 8)

whitedragon551
August 30th, 2009, 05:19 PM
Well Rising Firewall doesnt work to well with Win7 x64. It will sometimes let me access FF. Sometimes it wont until I turn off protection. Settings are the same in both instances. It was also set to compatibility mode and ran as admin. None of it worked. Back to the drawing board.

JohnnyDollar
August 30th, 2009, 07:26 PM
-{ Quote: "Well Rising Firewall doesnt work to well with Win7 x64. It will sometimes let me access FF. Sometimes it wont until I turn off protection. Settings are the same in both instances. It was also set to compatibility mode and ran as admin. None of it worked. Back to the drawing board." }-

Try Private Firewall

tipstir
August 30th, 2009, 07:29 PM
RIS 2009 can be used beyond cut off date to keep it working for free. Out of RAV and RFW the RIS which does both uses less system resources. Comodo FW+Defense is very good also I use both RIS and Comodo on different systems. On wireless laptops Comodo is my choice. On wired servers or desktop or workstations I recommend RIS 2009. I know there is talk about RIS 2010. If Rising releases that as a English/Chinese free then that can be made to go beyond the cut off date also. Simple fix to get that to work.

RIS first
Comodo FW+Defense second.

Right now I am out of town and been traveling for almost a month now I am using Comodo FW+Defense with AVIR PE in different hotels wired or wireless and such even with a direct connection to the VOIP with a Cable Modem without using a router. Results have been very good. I also have Rising PC Doctor running with RegProt and Script Defender all running smooth.

whitedragon551
August 31st, 2009, 05:56 PM
-{ Quote: "Try Private Firewall" }-

I did. The layout is hideous. Its stuck in Windows 2000.

JohnnyDollar
August 31st, 2009, 06:50 PM
Your about out of choices then.:-[

You want a good firewall for Vistax64 that is pretty and light. Jetico, Look n Stop, Private Firewall are all too ugly for you. Outpost and Comodo are too heavy. I guess vista firewall control is ugly too. You don't like Rising and you won't use Vista Firewall. There is not much left. Zone Alarm has a new beta but is probably still too heavy for you, PC Tools is in beta, but it probably is too ugly. There isn't much left. You can configure Vista Firewall to block all outbound and then create rules for windows services and your av and whatever else you want, it's not hard and is very lite.:wacko:

Obviously your gonna have to compromise somewhere. :)

JohnnyDollar
August 31st, 2009, 08:05 PM
-{ Quote: "Comodo is heavy? You must have a system conflict somewhere mate. Outpost is also very light, but not as light as Comodo on my system." }-

Not to me but the op, that is the firewall he was using when he started this thread.

entropism
August 31st, 2009, 09:32 PM
Yeah, something is seriously wrong if Comodo is heavy...

whitedragon551
August 31st, 2009, 11:46 PM
Not sure whats wrong with it. Its also acting up on Win7 for me.

I actually love Rising. I just cant get it to work right with Win7. Sometimes I can connect to the net fine. Sometimes I cant.

Anyone have any experience with PC Tools Firewall and resources?

whitedragon551
September 2nd, 2009, 09:32 PM
-{ Quote: "Not sure whats wrong with it. Its also acting up on Win7 for me.

I actually love Rising. I just cant get it to work right with Win7. Sometimes I can connect to the net fine. Sometimes I cant.

Anyone have any experience with PC Tools Firewall and resources?" }-

Anyone? PC tools did nothing, but have popups every 2 seconds for nearly 10 minutes at which point I uninstalled.

I need something x64 Win7 compatible.

entropism
September 3rd, 2009, 12:54 AM
What do you mean, PC Tools did nothing? It's working fine on my system, which is also Win 7 x64 (Pro, retail).

Honestly, I think you might be infected. Something seems to be seriously wrong with your system.

whitedragon551
September 3rd, 2009, 07:32 AM
Its impossible to be infected. Its a brand new image of Windows 7 x64. Installed yesterday.

Dregg Heda
September 4th, 2009, 02:41 AM
I have heard of malware that survive a disk wipe but I didnt investigate it.

trismegistos
September 4th, 2009, 03:38 AM
-{ Quote: "I have heard of malware that survive a disk wipe but I didnt investigate it." }-
OT: Are we talking here about some stealth MBR rootkit which low-level writes at some sectors in hard disk on which usual formatting wouldn't wipe or another banana?
Care to give some links? I'm interested to learn more about this.

Dregg Heda
September 4th, 2009, 08:54 AM
I am going to assume the first. I only saw the thread title but didnt have time to investigate it. I think a search of wilders might get you the thread in question.

trismegistos
September 4th, 2009, 12:12 PM
-{ Quote: "I am going to assume the first. I only saw the thread title but didnt have time to investigate it. I think a search of wilders might get you the thread in question." }-
If it's the first, no need for me to bother searching.

JerryM
September 4th, 2009, 05:33 PM
I am aware that many/most here do not use the Windows XP firewall because they want outbound protection.

I am curious to know how many have needed an outbound firewall? I use IS applications now, but there has never been any malware that has attempted to connect to the internet. Of course I have never had an infection.

So I wonder it there is a real need for outbound protection or whether it is just another "layer" that most want? Who has caught an infection through outbound firewall protection?

Regards,
Jerry

JohnnyDollar
September 4th, 2009, 06:05 PM
-{ Quote: "I am aware that many/most here do not use the Windows XP firewall because they want outbound protection.

I am curious to know how many have needed an outbound firewall? I use IS applications now, but there has never been any malware that has attempted to connect to the internet. Of course I have never had an infection.

So I wonder it there is a real need for outbound protection or whether it is just another "layer" that most want? Who has caught an infection through outbound firewall protection?

Regards,
Jerry" }-

I had a program in my temp files that tried to access outbound one time. My av didn't pick it up. I uploaded it to jottis and about all of the av's reported it as a trojan. I can't remember what av I was using at the time. I killed it and deleted it.

JerryM
September 4th, 2009, 07:49 PM
-{ Quote: "I had a program in my temp files that tried to access outbound one time. My av didn't pick it up. I uploaded it to jottis and about all of the av's reported it as a trojan. I can't remember what av I was using at the time. I killed it and deleted it." }-

Thanks, I was just wondering about the risk.

Regards,
Jerry

whitedragon551
September 4th, 2009, 11:00 PM
Take your thread jacking else were. Kthxbai.

eezdva
September 5th, 2009, 09:47 PM
OK I used all firewalls . Tried and many of them are somewhere rather heavy or obtrusive with pop-ups etc etc.

In the end after long testing Outpost is just the best.And it's light for me with 6,632 k.

Plus it came out as one of the toppers at the Matousec testing. Even the free one . ( I am using the PRO version) . And using it with Nod32 V4 .

I really had problems with each firewall in some way or another. Outpost seems to be bug free for me.

firzen771
September 5th, 2009, 09:57 PM
-{ Quote: "OK I used all firewalls . Tried and many of them are somewhere rather heavy or obtrusive with pop-ups etc etc.

In the end after long testing Outpost is just the best.And it's light for me with 6,632 k.

Plus it came out as one of the toppers at the Matousec testing. Even the free one . ( I am using the PRO version) . And using it with Nod32 V4 .

I really had problems with each firewall in some way or another. Outpost seems to be bug free for me." }-

for me its the same, i just prefer to not use a firewall on my desktop.

eezdva
September 5th, 2009, 10:24 PM
I really need to cause there are several people on the same network. Amd I have a laptop which I move around.


Anyway Outpost rocks. And feel rather secure with it.

Fajo
September 6th, 2009, 11:49 PM
On this system Comodo seems to run light as can be, never seemed to have a problem with it being Heavy. :wacko:

This is also on Windows 7 RTM and has been running now on this system for the last month. 8)


(Screen Shot REMOVED) Refer to the one below as it better explains what I was trying to say.

firzen771
September 7th, 2009, 12:19 AM
-{ Quote: "On this system Comodo seems to run light as can be, never seemed to have a problem with it being Heavy. :wacko:

This is also on Windows 7 RTM and has been running now on this system for the last month. 8)

211958" }-

lol at using memory consumption as a way of showing how light it is, maybe that wuld matter if u had a 256mb RAM computer...

Fajo
September 7th, 2009, 04:17 AM
-{ Quote: "lol at using memory consumption as a way of showing how light it is, maybe that wuld matter if u had a 256mb RAM computer..." }-


The last computer I had that had 256 megs of ram in it was in the late 90's. If you honestly want corporations to make programs to run on computers from 10+ years ago your dreaming. Coming in here and saying they are to heavy because your lack of hardware is just stupid. If your complaining about 2 megs of memory being used (Screen shot above) then my friend the problem is yours not the software. ::)

Just a FYI. I have a OLD P120 Laptop with 32 megs of ram that runs Avira, and a old version of Comodo Just fine. Even on that old beast it still works about as well as can be expected. Running Windows 2k no less. :blink:

ellison64
September 7th, 2009, 03:02 PM
-{ Quote: "I am aware that many/most here do not use the Windows XP firewall because they want outbound protection.

I am curious to know how many have needed an outbound firewall? I use IS applications now, but there has never been any malware that has attempted to connect to the internet. Of course I have never had an infection.

So I wonder it there is a real need for outbound protection or whether it is just another "layer" that most want? Who has caught an infection through outbound firewall protection?

Regards,
Jerry" }-

Outpost version 1 alerted me to advapi.exe (netdevil) trying to connect out ,many many years ago.AVG which was my av at that time didnt detect it.
ellison

firzen771
September 7th, 2009, 09:25 PM
-{ Quote: "The last computer I had that had 256 megs of ram in it was in the late 90's. If you honestly want corporations to make programs to run on computers from 10+ years ago your dreaming. Coming in here and saying they are to heavy because your lack of hardware is just stupid. If your complaining about 2 megs of memory being used (Screen shot above) then my friend the problem is yours not the software. ::)

Just a FYI. I have a OLD P120 Laptop with 32 megs of ram that runs Avira, and a old version of Comodo Just fine. Even on that old beast it still works about as well as can be expected. Running Windows 2k no less. :blink:" }-

i dont understand, are u saying that I said it was too heavy? ur wording is somewhat confusing. im pointing out that YOU are saying its running light by showing a simple screenshot of RAM usage...

Fajo
September 8th, 2009, 12:31 AM
-{ Quote: "i dont understand, are u saying that I said it was too heavy? ur wording is somewhat confusing. im pointing out that YOU are saying its running light by showing a simple screenshot of RAM usage..." }-

I think I miss understood your last Post and sorry if I did. The whole point of the screen shot was to show how much CPU time used and how much ram were being used and allocated On Windows 7, as a few post about Windows 7 and it being heavy. Sorry for the misunderstanding. 8)



Edit.
Ok here is the screen shot that better shows what I'm talking about, Notice the CPU usage ram usage and any other relevant info. ;D

Not bad means this computer normally has World of Warcraft running in 2-3 different windows and Utorrent (P2P) Running in the background still Comodo stays pretty light even with all that traffic.

(CFP.EXE) is the file to look at for those that don't know.
212001

Wildest
September 8th, 2009, 08:37 AM
-{ Quote: "Ok here is the screen shot that better shows what I'm talking about" }-
Your screenshot is invalid.
-{ Quote: "(CFP.EXE) is the file to look at for those that don't know." }-
For those that don't know, in addition to (CFP.EXE), where is the file (cmdagent.exe)? ::)

Fajo
September 8th, 2009, 12:24 PM
-{ Quote: "Your screenshot is invalid.
" }-

Screenshot works fine, It pulls up on all 5 of my computers so I don't know what your saying. ::)

-{ Quote: "
For those that don't know, in addition to (CFP.EXE), where is the file (cmdagent.exe)? ::)" }-

Jee golly its clicked. :dry:
27 hours of continuous use and OMG its still low How can that be. ::)
212037

Wildest
September 8th, 2009, 01:27 PM
-{ Quote: "Screenshot works fine, It pulls up on all 5 of my computers so I don't know what your saying. ::)



Jee golly its clicked. :dry:
27 hours of continuous use and OMG its still low How can that be. ::)" }-
Yes, you are correct; you don't know what I am saying.

In a prior post you mentioned that Comodo used 2 Megs of memory, and in the previous screenshot, cmdagent.exe (a necessary component of CIS), is not listed.
That screenshot was therefore invalid, since it makes it impossible to determine how much total resources CIS consumes.

However, your most recent screenshot is valid, as it clearly shows resource usage information for both components.

nhamilton
September 8th, 2009, 05:48 PM
A firewall generates events that occurs, these should be in a log ..

which is better, writing it straight to a file and getting it out of memory, or keeping in memory.

Maybe you can reduce memory as well by keeping more information in the kernel memory via the driver, that way it makes that app look like smaller memory.

Maybe you can look at keep memory low by keep paging out the memory so you only have a small foot print, but high cache misses.

Low memory size used could actually be more of a problem then a benifit. If it stores less and has to compute more then are you saving memory to do more CPU processing ..

Securon
September 8th, 2009, 08:15 PM
Good Evening ! I've been using Outpost Free and it's superb. Very unobtrusive and it's layout is very clean and easy too navigate. I'm using it along side Prevx 3.0 and Vipre. All run without any confliction and are light and quick. Sincerely...Securon

whitedragon551
September 8th, 2009, 08:27 PM
I tried Outpost. It took awhile to bootup for some reason. Right now my current setup is Avira Antivir Premium and PC Tools Firewall. PC Tools seems to lag a bit at startup like most of their other software, notably Spyware Doctor. However I have yet to find one that started almost instantly like Rising Firewall while having a nice stream lined interface.

tipstir
September 8th, 2009, 10:26 PM
Most hardware firewalls will protect you. Software firewalls just give you that added protection letting you know who-is trying to connect to you. I see most of you believe not to run a software firewall. If you ever had someone try to connect to your system without you knowing then I bet you'll go back to the software firewall. Until I/O can be better monitored then most of what we have today can protect the system. I like Rising Internet Security runs lite, and I know it didn't do well in Comodo Leak test but those test are more geared for Comodo though. PC Tools Firewall Plus is a bit flaky to me.

I am seeing issue with Comodo and Outlook 2007 it seems to be blocking SMTP connections all of a sudden.

Fajo
September 9th, 2009, 02:21 AM
-{ Quote: "A firewall generates events that occurs, these should be in a log ..

which is better, writing it straight to a file and getting it out of memory, or keeping in memory.

Maybe you can reduce memory as well by keeping more information in the kernel memory via the driver, that way it makes that app look like smaller memory.

Maybe you can look at keep memory low by keep paging out the memory so you only have a small foot print, but high cache misses.

Low memory size used could actually be more of a problem then a benifit. If it stores less and has to compute more then are you saving memory to do more CPU processing .." }-

Hence why you look at the memory and the CPU aspect of the program find out how it works. Low CPU low Memory and good protection = Win/Win if the program you are looking at fits your taste.

whitedragon551
September 14th, 2009, 11:59 PM
Im having some weird problems with PC Tools FW Plus. For some reason uTorrent is blocked even though in the settings it has full internet access and program access. It also says I have an invalid subscription status, but Im using the free version.

tipstir
September 15th, 2009, 12:14 AM
-{ Quote: "Im having some weird problems with PC Tools FW Plus. For some reason uTorrent is blocked even though in the settings it has full internet access and program access. It also says I have an invalid subscription status, but Im using the free version." }-

Did you register your PC Tools FW Plus, I did years ago still works. Still I too had a problem with utorrents with PTFWP way back when I had used it. There is a fix on the PCTools forum. Post your request there or search for it. They have some sort of rule for torrents.

Habakuck
September 15th, 2009, 08:29 AM
-{ Quote: "Most hardware firewalls will protect you. Software firewalls just give you that added protection letting you know who-is trying to connect to you. I see most of you believe not to run a software firewall. If you ever had someone try to connect to your system without you knowing then I bet you'll go back to the software firewall. ." }-
You can log the connection with a hardware firewall!

whitedragon551
September 15th, 2009, 08:57 AM
Logging it wont help. Its set to allow ALL traffic through uTorrent. UDP and TCP traffic. Theres no reason it should be blocked at all.

whitedragon551
October 6th, 2009, 09:19 PM
Alright well PC Tools is getting tossed out. It refuses to update and says I have an invalid subscription when in fact I dont have one at all. Yes I am using the free version. I tried Outpost Free again and it caused 2 BSODs trying to running BF2. Thats out of the question now. Any new ones I should consider or maybe older ones that have had recent updates?

1boss1
October 7th, 2009, 04:29 PM
-{ Quote: "Not sure whats wrong with it. Its also acting up on Win7 for me.

I actually love Rising. I just cant get it to work right with Win7. Sometimes I can connect to the net fine. Sometimes I cant.
" }-

Thanks for the info, i was going to give Rising a try on Win7 but might hold off.

I have Outpost Pro but don't like it, and only a single license for Malware Defender but it's on my XP partition so was looking at Rising.

Have you thought about getting an old PC and setting it up as a dedicated firewall considering resource usage is a concern and your running out of software options?

Edit: Scratch that, been mentioned.

whitedragon551
October 7th, 2009, 04:32 PM
Nope. Way to much of a hassle for what Im looking for. Besides I use my laptop at school and a firewall would be necessary there.

dcrowe0050
October 7th, 2009, 10:04 PM
I had alot of problems with PC Tools on my Vista laptop. For some reason it kept some of my apps from opening. I had rules created and that wasnt the problem, there was some kind of conflict. But I still run it on my XP machine and out of the 4 most popular freebies(outpost, OA, Comodo, PCT) its definately my favorite. Neways decided to test a new one and am currently running Fort Knox firewall and I am happy with it. But it is a little heavier on resources than some.

whitedragon551
October 7th, 2009, 10:33 PM
I tried that. It lagged in the control panel where you configure it. I immediately uninstalled it.

sudeepd12
October 25th, 2009, 05:44 PM
Hi Folks,

I have a 32 bit Vista. I was wondering if the following defence is the best that I can have:

Comodo Firewall Pro 3.0 (minus D+)- Build 25.378, Avast Anti-Virus 4.8 Pro, Spywareblaster, Ccleaner, Spybot Search and Destroy.

Does this defence mechanism sound robust:doubt: ?
1. Is Comodo the best firewall available?
2. I also have an option to go for Vipre, AVG and Avira Anti-virus mechanisms.
3. What other anti-spywares should I consider?
4. What am I missing?

I will appreciate your thoughts on this.

Thanks,
Sudeep

whitedragon551
October 25th, 2009, 05:46 PM
First wrong thread. Second Spybot sucks. Super Antispyware or MBAM are better choices. Spywareblaster does the same thing as Spybots immunize feature. Viper IMHO is much better than AVG or Avast. Now the ones that you want to run are based on individual needs and system specs. Everyone always tells me testing them out is the best way to find what works for you.