Returnil and GesWall

[s4u]

Where do Returnil and Geswall are complementary to eachother and where do they clash?

Can I use Returnil without a regular AV?

[ypestis]

For a short time I used GeSWall free along with Returnil Premium edition.
I had several BlueScreen errors,that ended when GeSWall was removed.

These Blue screens could occur at anytime,but seemed to happen most at shutdown.
I regret that I did not make an effort to disable restart,and obtain the text of the error message,so I really do not know what the issue was.

Nevertheless,on my system, at least, Geswall and Returnil did not get along.
I now use Sandboxie Free with Returnil,and all is trouble free.

I do not use Realtime AV,and my on-demand scans are all clean.
I feel fairly safe.
If I did online banking,or a lot of credit card transactions online,i would
feel better with a real time guard.


Edit: to echo and agree with Karad,Keyscrambler is a great low overhead addition.
I would not be without it on Firefox or IE.

[karad]

Contrary to ypestis experience mine was very good: i used both Returnil and GesWall in a couple of computers without any trouble whatsoever. I'm talking about Geswall Free,anyway,which mainly takes care of the browser's activities only. Now I'm only using the combination in one pc as I purchased Prevx for the other one,so it would have been a bit of an overkill.
In my notebook I ran for a few months Returnil (free),Geswall Free AND PrevxEdge Free without any glitch,they were all very light and integrating perfectly. Obviously, the pay version of them all might pose a few problems if run simultaneously,especially when something obnoxious is found out, but I never tried that.
I find that a usefull addition to either Geswall or Returnil is certainly KeyScrambler (free-personal), which adds a lot of protection and is very light.

[Coldmoon]

Hi,
Thanks for the heads up re GeSWall. Can you try to reproduce the issue and let us know the exact text of any errors (especially critical stop errors)?

Mike

[ypestis]

Coldmoon,

I am sorry, it has been maybe three months since I had GesWall on my
machine.
Since Karad ran the Returnil and GesWall without problems,It may have just been a quirk of my system.