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trjam
June 17th, 2009, 12:35 PM
It would seem to me the ideal way to make a home PC would be to do away with these 2 items. For banking security a retina scanner embedded in the PC for your identification or a seperate module to check your fingerprint. For doing away with keystrokes the ability to speak to the computer via a secure line, for websites and entering in any pertinent information.

Technology will grow and I do think at some point make secuirty more viable.

Kees1958
June 17th, 2009, 01:19 PM
-{ Quote: "the ability to speak to the computer via a secure line" }-

He doc, what's up, why speak through a secure line? thrown in some voice analysis, you are getting old ;D

funkydude
June 17th, 2009, 06:42 PM
Your retina scan could potentially be stolen in transit, packets reconstructed, then used to fake a bank login. Then again that's no more secure than typing in details. :)

Boost
June 17th, 2009, 06:54 PM
The technology is already here,just has not been released to the public for sale.
Some examples Ive seen is the keyboard actually being projected onto your computer desk top. HP has a computer that you use the LCD screen for all input.

It's here,just not ready for the public ;D

Boost
June 17th, 2009, 07:28 PM
-{ Quote: "Interesting. However, even if it was released to the public, I don't think it would sell very well haha.

The best security would actually be to live on a deserted island full of fruit trees and roaming deer. Free your mind haha." }-

Public has no choice to get used to it,because it's been said long ago,future computers will not have keyboards and mouse.

All will be voice operated and or touch screen.

BrendanK.
June 17th, 2009, 07:29 PM
Reading threads like this make me paranoid :o

Oh and I wouldn't mind a computer that listens to my voice, rather then me typing. I mean computers physical activity is already low, now people won't even feel the need to move their fingers. ;D

BrendanK.
June 17th, 2009, 07:45 PM
-{ Quote: "Trust me, you would mind it a lot when you have laryngitis haha. Also how about computer games? No mouse? No keyboard? Um..." }-

Haha. I'm glad you brought that up :D

http://digiscents.com/blog/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/technology/e3-2009/5437978/E3-2009-Project-Natal-hands-on-preview.html
http://news.bigdownload.com/2009/06/09/e3-2009-peregrine-pc-gaming-glove-controller-eyes-on-impression/

Boost
June 17th, 2009, 08:02 PM
-{ Quote: "Trust me, you would mind it a lot when you have laryngitis haha. Also how about computer games? No mouse? No keyboard? Um..." }-

Rule of thumb:

If you think something is impossible with technology,dont worry because there's someone willing to make it work.

Laser technology is coming aboard in the new televisions,get ready because the day is coming!
http://laser-tv.org/what-is-laser-tv/

kwismer
June 17th, 2009, 08:13 PM
-{ Quote: "It would seem to me the ideal way to make a home PC would be to do away with these 2 items. For banking security a retina scanner embedded in the PC for your identification or a seperate module to check your fingerprint. " }-

sorry, but that's just not secure. if you don't have a trusted path between the biometric sample acquisition device (retina scanner/fingerprint reader/etc) and the biometric verifier (the computer that stores and matches biometric templates against the biometric samples coming in) then a simple replay attack voids any security you may have thought you were gaining.

and you most certainly do not have anything even approaching a trusted path over the internet or any setup involving end-user-controled computers.

Page42
June 17th, 2009, 08:23 PM
To demonstrate how difficult (and ridiculous) it is for us to try to predict the future of technology, I am reminded of what the President of Digital Equipment, Ken Olson, said in 1977...
-{ Quote: "There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home." }-

Boost
June 17th, 2009, 08:31 PM
-{ Quote: "Never said anything about "impossible". I was just trying to make the point that some old technology would still be useful for a very long time to come, like the mouse and keyboard." }-

Very long time to come is almost history ;D

There are many companies,small and large alike who are already doing away with keyboards and using touch screens and pens. The workplace has changed,just a short time til it's in your home.

BlueZannetti
June 17th, 2009, 08:38 PM
-{ Quote: "That may have been taken out of context though." }-and if you knew history...., you'd realize it's in context.

Blue

Boost
June 17th, 2009, 08:49 PM
-{ Quote: "Like which companies? I'd also like to know how using touch screens and pens helps with typing up articles and assignments. I know I'd definitely keep using my keyboard until there was a way to do these things faster.

From what I've seen so far, there's nothing out there to match the keyboard or type-writer. Please feel free to educate me with some links etc if there is though! I'll be keen to ditch my keyboard as soon as possible haha.

EDIT: also, what about PC games like I mentioned before? What if I wanted to play these games? No mouse? No keyboard? Help! If the mouse and keyboard are being phased away so quickly, like you're implying, why are computer game companies still making games? Starcraft 2 is coming out soon. What is Blizzard thinking if the mouse and keyboard are already fast becoming "history"?" }-

Girlfriend works for a company as I do myself. Sorry no links . Entering in finished work orders or tasks is simpler / faster,which equals more time for more projects.

Games dont dictate the future technology advances sorry to tell ya.

Boost
June 17th, 2009, 09:05 PM
-{ Quote: "Again, the point seems to have been missed. Sorry if I'm not being very clear. You said the mouse and keyboard are fast becoming history. I'm arguing that they are not and in fact they are here to stay for a long time to come - I've also provided examples of why I'm thinking like this. PC games are one, since there is a huge market for it. Usability and efficiency is another one (see my comments on how to create text documents with the speed of the keyboard or type-writer).

I didn't say games dictate the future technology advances at all (nor did I mean to imply that), so no need to apologise." }-

Your way behind on technology it seems. In 1980s, word processor applications on personal computers had replaced the tasks previously accomplished with typewriters.

Good luck in whatever decisions you make,sounds like your gonna need it!

wat0114
June 17th, 2009, 09:11 PM
-{ Quote: "Again, the point seems to have been missed. Sorry if I'm not being very clear. You said the mouse and keyboard are fast becoming history. I'm arguing that they are not and in fact they are here to stay for a long time to come - " }-

Well ssj, maybe we're living on a different planet, but I fully agree with you on this. I see no evidence whatsoever the keyboard and mouse are soon to be replaced.

Boost
June 17th, 2009, 09:23 PM
-{ Quote: "Well ssj, maybe we're living on a different planet, but I fully agree with you on this. I see no evidence whatsoever the keyboard and mouse are soon to be replaced." }-

You and SSJ are both behind on technology advances then. I do not have the time to go over everything,but you both should start by reading a link such as this:

http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/22393/

wat0114
June 17th, 2009, 09:28 PM
-{ Quote: "You and SSJ are both behind on technology advances then. I do not have the time to go over everything,but you both should start by reading a link such as this:

http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/22393/" }-

No doubt or argument the technology is there, just as compact disc technology was in full swing in the 60's and technology to land man on the moon in that era, but I see no absolute replacement of the mouse or keyboard anytime soon.

Boost
June 17th, 2009, 09:31 PM
-{ Quote: "No doubt or argument the technology is there, just as compact disc technology was in full swing in the 60's and technology to land man on the moon in that era, but I see no absolute replacement of the mouse or keyboard anytime soon." }-


Windows 7 is the next operating system as mentioned in the article will offer services.

-{ Quote: "However, it's fair to say that Apple's iPhone has helped revive the potential of the approach with its multitouch screen. Several cell-phone manufacturers now offer multitouch devices, and both Windows 7 and future versions of Apple's Macbook are expected to do the same. Various techniques can enable multitouch screens: capacitive sensing, infrared, surface acoustic waves, and, more recently, pressure sensing." }-

Boost
June 17th, 2009, 09:38 PM
-{ Quote: "Windows 7 and future Microsoft operating systems will also offer support for the mouse and keyboard for many many years to come." }-

I didnt say they wouldnt. I said they offered touch screen features.
Dont twist my words around.

BlueZannetti
June 17th, 2009, 09:47 PM
-{ Quote: "Apologies if you took offense. I did not intend to "twist" your words around at all. I was just trying to make the point that the mouse and keyboard are here to stay for a long time...which is what we were originally arguing about." }-One detail you should consider is the manner in which something we refer to as a keyboard and/or mouse are implemented. Consider the possibility that both remain, yet both are gone in terms of the physical devices that we now use.

Blue

BlueZannetti
June 17th, 2009, 10:00 PM
-{ Quote: "If it was being phased out so quickly (as has been implied very strongly), why is Windows 7 (not even released yet) going to provide support for the mouse and keyboard as we know it?" }-You really need to consider what that means. Generalize it. Point/selection device, text entry device. Neither is constrained to maintain a static definition based on current physical devices.

A lot of this is likely to be driven by MID's and other small mobile devices. What's learned there will permeate the other domains.

Blue