Norton Antivirus Classic 2009

[HAN]

Anyone know much about it? The lightest possible version of new NAV 2009?
http://shop.symantecstore.com/store/symnahho/en_US/ContentTheme/ThemeID.504200/pbPage.DRTV11NAVC/API1.DRTV/API2.FAST10?resid=7HWoggoBAiMAAFknug8AAAAj&rests=1244414906262 Certainly looks interesting to me...

[raven211]

-{ Quote: "Anyone know much about it? The lightest possible version of new NAV 2009?
http://shop.symantecstore.com/store/symnahho/en_US/ContentTheme/ThemeID.504200/pbPage.DRTV11NAVC/API1.DRTV/API2.FAST10?resid=7HWoggoBAiMAAFknug8AAAAj&rests=1244414906262 Certainly looks interesting to me..." }-

I would rather have spyware protection and intrusion prevention and stuff incl., but it's cool news and a neat price tag. :P Wonder if SONAR is still there, cause otherwise it's even worse. ;D Not that it's proven very useful the last time I've tested it. :D

[TrojanHunter]

Nothing special here, just Norton Antivirus stripped of it's Anti-spyware protection. It's cheap, but those using it will need a separate application in real-time to prevent Spyware and Adware, so any speed boost is cancelled out.

[RejZoR]

For 15 bucks, it's really cheap. But lack of ad/spy detection makes it kinda useless. I'm sure many would opt for Norton if you'd get this package + ad/spy protection for 20 bucks.

[Pleonasm]

I’m surprised that Symantec would market a product that provides no spyware or adware protection, even at a reduced price point. Users with a negative Symantec experience won't be likely to renew a subscription to Norton AntiVirus 2009 Classic, nor will they be inclined to upgrade to Norton Internet Security, in my opinion.

As a result, the reduction in long-term brand equity may exceed any short-term gain in revenue, I suspect.

[Graystoke]

If it's basically a stripped down Norton AV, why not offer Classic as a free version? I know, I know, because Symantec doesn't have to.

[QBgreen]

I suppose that if you already have SAS Pro or another quality anti-spyware on your system, this would make sense. However, Norton Scan & Clean is available for free on Softpedia. While it doesn't have on access protection, it scans and cleans malware including spyware and it's free!

[gery]

put some extra money and buy another full alternative. maybe Norton are trying toward a economic fall and trying to recover a little:argh: :argh:

[vijayind]

-{ Quote: " maybe Norton are trying toward a economic fall and trying to recover a little:argh: :argh:" }-
I think Norton is ~snip~ up new ways to swindle (ASK toolbar, Classic version) because they're afraid that Microsoft Morro (http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2008/nov08/11-18NoCostSecurityPR.mspx) will cause most people to drift away.

[virtumonde]

I like all 2009 line products from Norton a lot, but this is just an effort to squezze a few bucks more.They should give this free IMO.
I'm not sure who would pay for this.

[dawgg]

-{ Quote: "I'm not sure who would pay for this." }-
The user looking for a bargain and don't know a lot about security, resellers ripping people off or manufacturers looking for a cheap OEM AV.

The users wont be happy though, they wont know the difference and will see it as Norton being crap at detecting ad/spyware.

[jrmhng]

-{ Quote: "I think Norton is ~snip~ up new ways to swindle (ASK toolbar, Classic version) because they're afraid that Microsoft Morro (http://www.microsoft.com/Presspass/press/2008/nov08/11-18NoCostSecurityPR.mspx) will cause most people to drift away." }-
Maybe, but why buy it when you can get Avira, AVG, Avast or MS's new product for free?

[TrojanHunter]

The big names in security have tried to play down Microsoft's morro as no great concern because of Microsofts current market share with one care. Will it still be like this when they offer a free anti-virus? I don't think so. Morro will undoubtedly take away sales in my opinion. I just hope Microsoft don't blow it and Auto update at the same rate as Windows Defender (not that ofter)::) .

[HAN]

-{ Quote: "I just hope Microsoft don't blow it and Auto update at the same rate as Windows Defender (not that ofter)" }- To expland on that, I hope they don't use Windows Update as the update conduit. Defender should NEVER have been set up that way and neither should an AV.

[mercurie]

-{ Quote: "I’m surprised that Symantec would market a product that provides no spyware or adware protection, even at a reduced price point. Users with a negative Symantec experience won't be likely to renew a subscription to Norton AntiVirus 2009 Classic, nor will they be inclined to upgrade to Norton Internet Security, in my opinion.

As a result, the reduction in long-term brand equity may exceed any short-term gain in revenue, I suspect." }-I am in total agreement. If spyware infects the PC they will never gain that customer back. I saw this in the store and went ??? why is this so cheap...I don't need AV at the moment but as I was walking away I said there had to be a catch...now I know!!

[lodore]

To me its like paying for a big lock on the front door but you leave the back door wide open with a sign saying "come in"
the sort of people who use this will use it as their only security and wont know the limits of the program.

[vijayind]

-{ Quote: "The big names in security have tried to play down Microsoft's morro as no great concern because of Microsofts current market share with one care. Will it still be like this when they offer a free anti-virus? I don't think so. Morro will undoubtedly take away sales in my opinion. I just hope Microsoft don't blow it and Auto update at the same rate as Windows Defender (not that ofter)::) ." }-
I agree. You'll see most OEMs/Resellers bundling Morro instead of other paid options. Because all you need is a genuine windows license and you are not run afoul by the EULA like that of Avira Free or AVG Free. So definitely bundling will be seen extensively and customers aren't going to complain seeing that the product is MICROSOFT.

I think the update will be similar to onecare/forefront. They will use same engine.

[GES/POR]

Hmmm, so much negativity - for me its a good alternative right now, in the boat for a cheap (not free) quality av and this seems to fit that bill - i allready got sas pro so no need for duplication

[dawgg]

-{ Quote: "To me its like paying for a big lock on the front door but you leave the back door wide open with a sign saying "come in"" }-
Locking the doors but leaving the cat flap open? - the big ones cant get in, the lill ones can!

-{ Quote: "Hmmm, so much negativity - for me its a good alternative right now, in the boat for a cheap (not free) quality av and this seems to fit that bill - i allready got sas pro so no need for duplication" }-
Hey, you might have another antispyware program running and that's good for you, but the mass market only uses one product - especially the market who are most likely to buy this.

[stratoc]

it's still norton! i tried this one too and still get the millisecond longer opening any file than i do with eset or kis and they're suites!
i have had this with any 2009 product i have tried it's only just noticeable, but it is noticable. and this is just antivirus, but performance wise on standard (not games) settings i notice a very slight slowdown and i dont get this with the other 2 im testing.

[trjam]

I actually saw a television commercial for this last night. What a hoot.

[iiiears]

Norton products are expensive this a great way to get virus protection at an affordable price.
Does it offer protection from changes to the registry and checksum system files? Can it run when the screen saver comes on?

[raven211]

-{ Quote: "Norton products are expensive this a great way to get virus protection at an affordable price.
Does it offer protection from changes to the registry and checksum system files? Can it run when the screen saver comes on?" }-

It should. It'll run when you've not been doing anything for 10 minutes (moving your mouse, typing on the keyboard), and when in screensaver as this indicates you're not active with anything.

[yeuxbleus]

-{ Quote: "it's still norton! i tried this one too and still get the millisecond longer opening any file than i do with eset or kis and they're suites..." }-
Hmmm...and I noticed more of a slow down with KAV (yes, KAV, not KIS) than NAV (full 2009, not Classic) and about the same impact with NOD32. Oh well...I guess it depends on one's rig.;)

[stratoc]

"Hmmm...and I noticed more of a slow down with " that's my point i don't get ANY slowdown at all with nod and a slightlty longer shut down with kasper, but no slowdown unzipping/ moving files about, sadly i do (and always have done) with norton.
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[cybercoach]

No one seems to be addressing whether this stripped down version, although marketed to the uninitiated and useless these days as a complete solution, may in fact be a GREAT BENEFIT to sophisticated users. Norton is not a Best-of-Breed AntiSpyware Solution, nor are NOD or Avira. Installing NAV or NIS 2009 AND any memory-resident Best-of Breed AntiSpyware solution (eg. Spyware Doctor, Spysweeper) will slow a system noticably and can cause hangs. I am wondering if Norton Classic 2009 alleviates the conflict causing redundancies and better accommodates other, better AntiSpyware solutions? Alas ... the AntiSpyware Community wants to get into the AntiVirus business, and their antivirus capabilities pale in comparison with the Top Tier AV products, so maybe they will never co-exist peacefully. This would be a good avenue for investigation.

[Fly]

-{ Quote: "No one seems to be addressing whether this stripped down version, although marketed to the uninitiated and useless these days as a complete solution, may in fact be a GREAT BENEFIT to sophisticated users. Norton is not a Best-of-Breed AntiSpyware Solution, nor are NOD or Avira. Installing NAV or NIS 2009 AND any memory-resident Best-of Breed AntiSpyware solution (eg. Spyware Doctor, Spysweeper) will slow a system noticably and can cause hangs. I am wondering if Norton Classic 2009 alleviates the conflict causing redundancies and better accommodates other, better AntiSpyware solutions? Alas ... the AntiSpyware Community wants to get into the AntiVirus business, and their antivirus capabilities pale in comparison with the Top Tier AV products, so maybe they will never co-exist peacefully. This would be a good avenue for investigation." }-

Viruses and spyware have blended into malware. Some malware which is technically a virus, behaves like spyware.

Definitions may vary, but a virus is a program that replicates.

There are many kinds of malware: trojans, backdoors, rootkits, malicious scripts, ransomware etc. You may want one program that deals with viruses, and another that deals with spyware. But how could you be sure that both programs just complement each other, do not overlap, and leave no gap ? That's just not possible.

And two real-time scanners consume significantly more resources than one integrated scanner.

As a side note, AVs tend to be more stable and reliable.

[Pleonasm]

-{ Quote: "Norton is not a Best-of-Breed AntiSpyware Solution" }-
For an alternative point-of-view, consider: “Norton scored better than any other suite or standalone antispyware utility on the current round of tests” (see The Best Security Suites for 2009 (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2333445,00.asp)).

-{ Quote: "And two real-time scanners consume significantly more resources than one integrated scanner." }-
On a general note, the report Performance Test: Impact of Anti-Virus Software on System Performance (http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/performance/performance08a.pdf) may be of interest.

[Vladimyr]

-{ Quote: "If it's basically a stripped down Norton AV, why not offer Classic as a free version? I know, I know, because Symantec doesn't have to." }-

Ah! But they do!
It's a litlle rough around the edges.
It's called PC Tools Antivirus/ (http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/) ::) ;D

[gery]

-{ Quote: "Ah! But they do!
It's a litlle rough around the edges.
It's called PC Tools Antivirus/ (http://www.pctools.com/free-antivirus/) ::) ;D" }-
yes they offer a good firewall PCTOOLS FIREWALL FREE and they offer good stuff too from Pctools:argh: :argh: :argh:

[iwod]

Actually i really like this products. It still protects you from rootkits, Trojan and Worm.
For 14.99 it is a bargain. The only things is Classic Version is not avalible anywhere else apart from US.