What the hell is Sysfader.exe ?

[tempnexus]

Ok I get a crash once in a while and many times is just a window that takes a second but right now I actually did a window capture and got this.

Sysfader:Explorer.exe
Instruction at 0x77f57e4f reference memory at 0x00000067 the memory was unable to be written.

I've ran SpySweeper, AdAware, TD-3, BoClean, Nod32 and Bitdefender. IT comes up with nothing...but the pc is sometimes unstable...so what the hell is sysfader?

Thanks so much

[Pieter_Arntz]

Hi tempnexus,

Have you checked your computer for spyware?
Stupid question. I now see you ran SpySweeper.
Try this anyway http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=15913

I found this:
http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/topic/15565/

Regards,

Pieter

[Pilli]

Hi Tempnexus, I can only find one possible useful link:
http://www.opentechsupport.net/forums/archive/topic/19441-1.html

Hope it helps Pilli

[tempnexus]

This is weird no one knows for sure some say it's a file that places win into hybernation mode others say: "sysfader is used to effect fade in/out of menus and tooltip balloons. If it's persistently hanging-up, it can be disabled in Display Properties -> Effects -> uncheck "Use Transition Effects for menus and tooltips" (note: this is how it's disabled in Win2K; it might be done differently in XP)."

[finewings]

I don't kown what it is either. BUT i solove it just now. Try to boot in the safe mode. Run msconfig in start->run. There seems to be some doubtable services there, stop them. Restart the computer... Good luck!

[Sgt Bilko]

I have exactly the same problem. Unfortunatly I can't offer any help as to what it is :(

[Jooske]

Could you check with SFC (?) if the explorer.exe is still ok?

[freedom1]

I am having a similar problem with SysFader

I have run Ad Aware, Spy Bot and Notons and cant find anything

Everytime I go to a ftp site my browser hangs. When I go to my task manager I always has SysFader as not responding. Normal surfing seems OK its only when I go to a ftp site

Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks in advance!

[freedom1]

I thought that I would also post my HJT log as it may help in working out what the problem is

Logfile of HijackThis v1.97.7
Scan saved at 5:59:54 PM, on 10/07/2004
Platform: Windows XP SP1
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXPPS.EXE
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccEvtMgr.exe
C:\WINDOWS\soundman.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7Debug\mdm.exe
C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\AdvTools\NPROTECT.EXE
C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_03\bin\jusched.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\nvsvc32.exe
C:\Program Files\BIPAC-7000 ADSL USB Modem\CnxDslTb.exe
C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ZONELABS\vsmon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\msnmsgr.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\IEXPLORE.EXE
C:\Documents and Settings\My Documents\Downloads\HijackThis.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page
O2 - BHO: (no name) - C:\PROGRA~1\SPYBOT~1\SDHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: (no name) - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Radio - C:\WINDOWS\System32\msdxm.ocx
O3 - Toolbar: Norton AntiVirus - C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\NavShExt.dll
O3 - Toolbar: MSN Toolbar - C:\Program Files\MSN Toolbar\en-us\msntb.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SoundMan] soundman.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccApp] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [ccRegVfy] "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccRegVfy.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Advanced Tools Check] C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\AdvTools\ADVCHK.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\NvCpl.dll,NvStartup
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [nwiz] nwiz.exe /install
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] C:\Program Files\Java\bin\jusched.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Zone Labs Client] "C:\Program Files\Zone Labs\ZoneAlarm\zlclient.exe"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [CTFMON.EXE] C:\WINDOWS\System32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Microsoft Office.lnk = C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office10\OSA.EXE
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\Office10\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console (HKLM)
O9 - Extra button: Messenger (HKLM)
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Messenger (HKLM)
O12 - Plugin for .png: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\PLUGINS\npqtplugin4.dll
O16 - DPF: (Shockwave Flash Object) - http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\..

[Jooske]

Found a dutch page in the MS knowledge base telling the problem is known in Internet Explorer 6.0 and in a later hotfix it would have been fixed.

Somewhere i saw this description:
Based on Google it seems to be part of the Windows system and is used when you enable the "Fade effect" in Windows Display properties (Display properties -> Appearance -> Effects).

So not sure if the one combines the other?

[Taze]

Found in another thread... Hope it helps!
_________________________________
Well ultimately I've found the answer, and lo and behold it was a virus. It didn't have anything to do with the installation I did, however - it had seemingly been on my PC for almost a month without doing anything.

The virus is a Trojan called 'Winshow'.

Here is the fix...
This problem is created by a trojan (VBS_Winshow.A, as Trend Micro refers to it as)
http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=TROJ_WINSHOW.A&VSect=T

or adware as Symantec refers to it as.

http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/adware.winshow.html

This past weekend happens to be about the one month anniversary of its initial appearance; perhaps this is the reason why it the 'copy' error started showing up. On my machine, it looks like it first deposited itself on 10/30/03. Its main impact for me was it would not allow multiple launches of IE from the desktop icon, and it became impossible over the weekend to synch my pda, HD MP3 player or use my multi-card reader, and impacted anything else that was hooked up through my USB 2.0 card. IE session since the beginning of November have seemed somewhat buggy; anything depending upon a plug-in applet (like Java) took FOREVER to load. The 'copy' boot error does not show up with every bootup or login, making it seem like the problem goes away.

In 2000/XP, you need to search for the folders Winshow and Winlink, usually deposited in C:\ Documents and Settings \ (user) \ Local Settings \ Application Data, where (user) is whatever name you log into or use XP/2000 with. If you have them, you will need to delete eventually, but you'll first have to delete the registry entries (if you don't, the trojan will simply recreate the folders with the next bootup). There probably is the file 'msupdater.exe' on your machine as well, this and the two folders have been associated as a IE hijacker routine a number of people have reported on the internet.

Norton's WinDoctor can delete some of the registry entries (it did for me, but it didn't get everything), but you really need to use it or better yet, use Hijack This, booted into Safe Mode (where the trojan isn't allowed to start before attempting to delete its components).

For those who don't know, Hijack This is an anti-hijacking app is easy to find (and best of all, is free). You can find it on CNET and other places to download. In my case, it came in a .zip file; within it was a .exe file that launches Hijack This when clicked. It doesn't appear to install itself to Windows. Upon starting in Safe Mode, you should get a window; select Scan, and in a second or two you will get a listing of the processes that launch on startup with your specific computer. Look for the Winlink and Winshow entries (under BHO on my computer), click the tick boxes, and click Fix Check.

Once done, you can reboot normally, go and find the the msupdater.exe file, Winshow and Winlink folders and delete w/o them showing up again.

To further clean up, you can go into the registry (with regedit, but only if you know what you're doing in there), and search for both winlink and winshow; there may be remnants still lurking as there were on my computer. If you find them, delete them; the trojan shouldn't be active at this point so it shouldn't recreate them. NOTE: if you have multiple login user identities on your machine, you may have to do this exercise for EACH one. If you're knowledgeable and brave enough, you can delete the registry entries in Safe Mode also, without using Hijack This or any other app.

[Rockersuke]

Nops, I have also the same "Sysfader" symptoms but none of the Winshow files/keys. I think "Winshow" is not related to this.

Damn! ^_^''

[Whynot]

Have a read of this - it may throw some light on the subject
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;828133
HTH

[Jooske]

I wonder if people who updated IE 6.0 with all patches still have the problem?

[granduke]

I have win XP and update my IE 6.0 almost like everyday (although there's none atm).

And guess what,i dont even have sysfader.exe in my comp.I've searched and couldn't find one. :)

[ipje]

You have spysweeper on you're computer if this is version 3.0 then this could be you're problem. The last month I had problems with the "right click" of my mouse and crash of explorer.exe. But things were getting worse today I was not able to access files/maps with rightclick/using keyboard. In a dutch forum I read the same problems for other OS and spysweeper 3.0 (I use XP). Give it a try when you have version 3.0, uninstall it and see if you're problem is solved.

[Rockersuke]

I've never installed Spysweeper and I always install Micorosoft updates, including the ones that they have released right today om my WinXP SP1 system...

...but the ###### explorer chrash with sysfader message is still there! Sometimes when I rightclick something, sometimes when I try to open anything... as random as usual...

sigh!

[Squib]

I experienced it for the first time today - it froze the taskbar, but after several minutes (and pressing Alt-Ctrl-Del) the taskmanager came up and I could exit the hung "Sysfader.exe"

Everything returned to normal. No restart needed.

I have no idea what it is, but I was trying to open the start menu at the time it struck... background task was initialising a really old HDD from a 386.

Recent changes to my system: Disabled hardware acceleration because alpha blending caused display drivers (3dfx) to crash when I was in the middle of writing an application :(

Maybe having little or no hardware acceleration increases the chances of suffering the dreaded sysfader attack?

[Jamesyb]

Can anyone give more help to this issue?

What services did you delete/stop?

How do I get to display settings in XP???

[ronny]

When you talk about the devil...
Today i was watching filmtrailers using IE & Quicktime6.5.1 , when suddenly i got also & for the first time(! ) this Sysfader error:
"Instruction at 0x10023b12 reference memory at 0x000000b8 the memory was unable to be written"
When i used Mozilla1.7 & QuickTime i don't have the error.

I think it is not a virus because i checked my pc with Kaspersky, Norton online, Housecall, e-Trust and they didn't found anything.
I also scanned using Adaware, Spybot S&D, Spysweeper, Bazooka, a² and Pestpatrol.
Only Pestpatrol found 593 pests. But they were almost all from GameSpyArcade and the other 4 must be false positives, because they were Microsoft dll's.

And yes my IE & XP is updated with the last patches.

edit: :o problem seems to have dissapeared, everything works fine now. And strangely, i can't find any sysfaderfile on my computer. So i am sorry, my post doesn't seem to be very usefull anymore. But i leave it here cause I did had the same mistake at one point.

[Qwack]

You aren't nuts.

I have the same problem.

Sysfader not responding and can't be stopped with Windows Task Manager.
Have to shut down thr Sytem with the Power Button.

Looked for Sysfader. Couldn't find it.

I also have another symptom. When I shut down Zone Alarm it comes back
with a message about "True Vector Internet Monitor not responding".

I'm looking for a way to solve the problem.....

[Griffman1]

Hi, I've been having a problem with my computer for about a week now and today when I was playing around with it trying to fix it sysfader.exe popped up in the task manager. It was only for about a half second and I'm not exactly sure that it was spelled correctly..when I saw it though I typed it in google and it brought me here.

The problem I've been having with my computer is whenever I load it up the icons on the desktop and the start menu all disappear..I went into the task manager at first when it happened and there was no explorer.exe so I ran a new task through the manager "explorer.exe". The icons came back and so did the start menu..but it was for about 2 seconds and then reclosed. I don't know if this is tied in with the sysfader.exe thing but if anyone could help me it would be greatly appreciated. :)

[Griffman1]

me again..I don't know what you might need to know but I'm running windows XP

[hmmm]

hi there i was just having the same error sysfader blah and i know where it comes from at least in my case....


its the machine debug manager servive which gets installed with visual studio.net and similar such as .net framework etc just check it and disable it in services ....but u need to enable it if u r programming wih studio again


test it for meit helped

[hmmmm]

and i forgot its mdm.exe

[Zone alarm]

also i have this problem and it al started when i installed Zone alarm. Maybe thats the problem??????

[???????]

last week I installed Zone alarm, after a few days my computer was responding strange, as example: when I went to start>search, my computer just crasht for a minute and after that it runs further as if noting has happen.
so now i can't use the search button. When I shutdown my computer it gives a error of that sysfader. Before Zone alarm there was nothing wrong. but one thing is certain, it's not a virus. Now I can't even open some website's. And if someone know's the answer: what is connectionstray???

[pmore]

I have a sysfader.exe program which in my case is a valid Soundblaster Live program installed with my card.

http://philippe-moreau.com

[Someone else]

It's nothing to do with ZoneAlarm. I don't have ZA, but I just found out today I have Sysfader being executed with each (and only with) IExplorer.

(XP). Hope this helps eliminating..

[KKENNED3]

like many others, could not log into firefox. got brief "SysFader" in Task Manager 'Applications'. Firefox showed in 'Processes' but would not come up. Stopped Process "soffice.exe" and was able to load firefox. still don't know why.

[franck H]

hello mesdames ,messieurs.....
j'ai ce probleme...je l'ai localisé avec "regedit"
mais je ne sais que faire maintenant.....
alors très grand sera mon plaisir ....de lire alors vos suggestions!
Voici ma démarche..
executer REGEDIT
EDITION
RECHERCHER....."sysfader"
AND it was here!!!!!!!!!!
filesnamedMRU
thank you very much for answers
franck

[Helius]

What our you find in the regedit is a record of the files that you just try to find with the Explorer, every time you make a file search, its get registered there, and when you are about to start another file search, the explorer pops a list of the ten last file searches.

[kaller]

Its the winshow trojan, thats what it is

[Mahi]

I have XP SP2 on the computer. I see SysFader in the Task Manager as an application. Would like to know what's happenin' and how I can stop it!

[the answer]

If you want to cure this problem, download "Security Task Manager" . I found out EXACTLY what was running in my background it it took care of it.. The program I had problems with was a software called "navexcel".

[fozzi]

Sysfader is not a virus. It seems to be installed with nVidia drivers.
My display driver is provided by nVidia. It offers all kinds of options and one of them is the culprit. The solution is Go to START > CONTROL PANEL > DISPLAY > NVIDIA NVIEW DESKTOP MANAGER > tab DESKTOP MANAGEMENT > PROPERTIES > tab APPEARANCE > EFFECTS and uncheck the FADE EFFECT option. God knows what it does but unchecking it solves the problem.

[linney]

These mention Sysfader errors.


http://www.computing.net/windowsxp/wwwboard/forum/83062.html

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win2000/t1020125925

They seem to point to turning off Transition Effects in IE and Effects in Display Properties.

[Chanties]

I seem to have similar problem, but the Sysfader.exe wasnt as obviously shown as in the above mentioned cases.

For the past few months, whenever I go online, after a while my CPU seems to overide and then my computer crashes and restarts.

I have also noticed that in all these cases I have had a problem goin into Outlook express and giving me an error sign The connection to the server has failed..... Error Number: 0x800CCC0E.

Accidentally, while going into outlook express i have my windows task manager open on the Applications and on my screen quickly flashed Sysfader.exe.

I noticed that everytime i go into outlook express or into IE and even some f my other programs, Sysfader seems to activate

What does this mean?

And what can i do to correct the problem. My computer sometimes shuts down like this 4 times after each other


HELP!

[Chanties]

-{ Quote: "If you want to cure this problem, download "Security Task Manager" . I found out EXACTLY what was running in my background it it took care of it.. The program I had problems with was a software called "navexcel"." }-

Thanks,

I'm going to try it out. Hope it works!

[ggerri.com]

sysfader is MS stuff - check this out:

http://groups.google.ch/groups?q=sysfader&hl=de&lr=&selm=195401c47bfe%24314ff5d0%24a501280a%40phx.gbl&rnum=5

[Mi2chel]

it is a spyware or trojan!!!!!

Scan hard drive disk with ad-aware se and remove all spywares

good luck

[xyzz]

-{ Quote: "it is a spyware or trojan!!!!!

Scan hard drive disk with ad-aware se and remove all spywares

good luck" }-

Unhelpful remark removed Pilli

[lamjam]

I have been experiencing the same problem except the file is Lexpps.exe which I know has something to do with my Lexmark printer. I've seen a few forums where people had this issue with the same file as me and they were told to delete the file. I don't want to do that and have my printer stop working. Has anyone had the "memory could not be written" error with this file (Lexpps.exe)?

Any thoughts on what to do here?
Thanks!

[Pilli]

-{ Quote: "I've seen a few forums where people had this issue with the same file as me and they were told to delete the file. I don't want to do" }- You could try renaming the file to something like Lexpps.bak. - Re-boot your computer and check that your printer works OK.

Pilli

[bigbuck]

From http://www.answersthatwork.com/
Lexpps.exe
Lexmark Printer Port Scanner. Background task which auto-loads with the rest of the printer drivers and which allows your Lexmark X or Z Series to be shared over a Windows peer-to-peer network using the conventional method of setting up a shared networked printer (without it, you will not be able to share the printer using the conventional Windows method).

Recommendation :
This task is a comprehensive nightmare. From preventing your PC from booting up, to interfering with your network card, to asking your Internet firewall for permission to install itself as a server application, to general PC instability, this task has everything to make you instantly return your Lexmark X or Z Series printer and go for something else, and some users have done so !! In order to regain your sanity the first thing to do is to rename LEXPPS.EXE to LEXPPS.EXE.OLD (do it in Safe Mode if you cannot boot your PC normally) – this will ensure that this task never loads and will cure all the problems that it causes. If you need to network the printer over a peer to peer network, do not use the standard manner, instead install the printer as a local printer on the remote PC, and then go and change the port from a local port to the network share that the printer is known as.

[Pilli]

Hi bigbuck, Thanks for the elaboration :)

Pilli

[Smokey]

-{ Quote: "You dummies who respond that everything is a virus or trojan should just keep your misinformation to yourselves. You are not helping anyone." }-I know you are very wise and have knowledge about everything, but I didn't find in your reply a solution to solve the problem.::)


Ciao,

Smokey

[bigbuck]

-{ Quote: "I know you are very wise and have knowledge about everything, but I didn't find in your reply a solution to solve the problem.::)


Ciao,

Smokey" }- Guest!

[Smokey]

-{ Quote: "Guest!" }-I know, guest are welcome on Wilders and that's ok.
We must be polite against every guest, but it should not be a one-way road.


Ciao,

Smokey

[bigbuck]

-{ Quote: "I know, guest are welcome on Wilders and that's ok.
We must be polite against every guest, but it should not be a one-way road.


Ciao,

Smokey" }- But the guest was not too polite in this case!!!

[Paul Wilders]

-{ Quote: "But the guest was not too polite in this case!!!" }-

...as long as we are ;)

regards.

paul

[pricinosus]

When I instaled, few days ago, the windows xp pro (sp2 buit in)... for a second in the midle of she screen, just when windows setup trying to restart the computer for the last time, before i can use the system, a window with a message like this "you should't see this".......very strange, and after that setup restart system. But after 2 days this "sysfader.exe" came up and freezes "windows explorer" and load 100% my cpu. After ending "windows explorer" from aplications tab in task manager, things go to normal until double click "My Computer" again and so on.

In my firewall settings was three programs in port exception window:

1.odc
2.Yahoo! FT Server (I don;t know what the #### is that...yet)
3.Yahoo! Messenger

After I have unticked no 2 & 3 and running computer since yesterday there is no "voodo" from sysfader.exe.

I dont know if is the final solution for me or for you, but hope that will help !

[Martie]

Hey people,
I suppose it must be a windows thingy, i made a clean installation of windows xp and corel draw (just bought it) on a formatted harddisk, sysfader is there right from the beginning, it blinks for a second while launching corel and it prevents corel from opening.
Other apps work just fine, I get no sysfader error messages.

Very weird.

Thanks,
Martin

[Martie]

I experimented a bit and I discovered that when I deactivate the first two items in Effects / Appearance / Display / Control Panel, there is no sysfader reference whatsoever in the Task manager window on running applications or opening windows.

This solved the sysfader problem for me. With the first two items deactivated, windows runs a lot faster.

Martie

[RoHe]

For those wondering how they got spysweeper (from Webroot) without ever loading it, spysweeper is installed behind the scenes by Earthlink's TotalAccess software so if you've ever had that on your machine that's how you got spysweeper. It's a problem on my XPpro SP2 system. It created an unnamed process with unspecified command line prompt that shows up on startup tab under msconfig. When I edited the registry to remove it, my PC crashed. Had to undo the regedit and can't figure out how to get rid of it. The spysweeper files aren't anyway to be found, even when searching hidden and system files. From time to time PC crashes and the error message blames spysweeper. Webroot was totally unhelpful, even denying that spysweeper was installed with TotalAccess.

The only solution may be to remove TotalAcess but I'd lose my internet connection.

[Th3May0r]

my suggestion, remove it, then set up a PPPoE connection in Windows..

[Guy]

So far, the only solution i have was defragmenting my drives and scan disk them every day. My computer used to get frozen all the time and sysfader was the problem, now it doesnt do it anymore. Sysfader makes the computer slower but its not a big deal anymore only the high cpu usage that i have but it doesnt get frozen or ends programs, everything runs fine. I have also tried everything, Ad Aware, Norton, spy subtract, etc, nothing on it

[jbru]

the problem with the SysFader has started after installing Mcafee anitvirus 8.0. I suffered 1 week. Always the PC got stucked or i was not able to switch of the PC without pulling the plug. After removing Mcafee the problem was solved. Now im back to Norton Antivirus without any problems.

[danny123]

-{ Quote: "I am having a similar problem with SysFader

I have run Ad Aware, Spy Bot and Notons and cant find anything

Everytime I go to a ftp site my browser hangs. When I go to my task manager I always has SysFader as not responding. Normal surfing seems OK its only when I go to a ftp site

Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks in advance!" }-

You should download Microsoft Anti-Spyware because Ad-Aware ADDS it's OWN SWYWARE.

[danny123]

Did you know that Ad-Aware adds it's own adware and spyware? SpySweeper is good, but not the best. The best is Microsoft Anti-Spyware. It's very good and doesn't add it's own adware and spyware.

[snowbound]

-{ Quote: "Did you know that Ad-Aware adds it's own adware and spyware?
" }-

What the? ???

It does no such thing, believe me.



snowbound

[bigc73542]

-{ Quote: "Did you know that Ad-Aware adds it's own adware and spyware? SpySweeper is good, but not the best. The best is Microsoft Anti-Spyware. It's very good and doesn't add it's own adware and spyware." }-


Would you mind letting us know where you got this information?

bigc

[Some guy]

I had this problem awhile ago. I turned out that Sysfader.exe is a utility used by some NVidia graphic card packages. This can be verified by using a program such as QuickView to see the file's publisher or opening the Sysfader.exe file in a hex editor. To remove the file uninstall the NVida drivers then WITHOUT REBOOTING go into the registry and remove any references to NVidia. There were three if I remember correctly. Then reboot and reinstall the NVidia drivers. Be sure when reinstalling the drivers NOT to check any option that "speeds up opening and closing windows" or any of the window or taskbar transparency options. Sysfader is used to implement these options and if they are not used then Sysfader will not be installed. Apparently the Sysfader utility clashes with Windows 2000 and XP window display processes i.e. they both try to 'lock' the same memory in user space at the same time. Strangely this is an unintended side effect of user space memory protection that is intended to protect your computer from hijacking programs.

[suhail alam]

i have installed a p2p program called azureus. it is a java based program, and when i try to start it, starts to load and suddenly acts as if it is idle. When this happens first, i realized that azureus is a java based application so i downloaded sun microsystems java webstart. However the problem still remained. Then today before i opened up the program i opened tasks view up. then opened the p2p program up. then sysfader appeard in taskmanger briefly before returning to idle state and show the desktop. i decided to open up search and look for it and it appeared again however search function worked. therfore I BELIEVE it is randomly disallowing appications to run becuase for some people the search function did not work. but i am going to unselect the crossover and fade slection option and see what happens

if you have any ideas and comments u can email me directly at xxx@hotmail.com

[suhail alam]

i disabled the fade effect thingy and it still did not work.

[Petary791]

I'm getting basically the same thing, this is what it says:
"The instruction at "0x01e7d065" referenced memory at "0x00000000". The memorty could not be "written".

Click on OK to terminate the program
Click on CANCEL to debug the program

Now when I click ok, my taskbar and icons go away for a second, then they come back. I can't click on or use anything that involves Windows, I can only use Trillian and Firefox. I have everything in multiple icon folders on my desktop (I only have like 10 icons with sub-icons.) This is really pissing me off, please help!

xxxx@gmail.com

[mobstert2005]

i have the exact same problem and it is really making me made. my computer was running really good then one day it did that sysfader **** and screwed evry thing up. i can run programs but i can not open folders. and it sucks bad HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please help someone

[mobstert2005]

and another thing my internet web page is set at about blank and i keep changing it back to msn but it changes its self back and i dont know how to change it permenatly if any one can help me with either of my problems then please email me at
xxxxx2005@yahoo.com

[Mobstert2005]

hey guess what i got rid of that sysfader sh*t.!!!! ya. i will tell you how i did it hopefully it works for you to. go to favorites and delete the files in the folder. you will not be able to delete the whole folder. then restart. then dont go on the internet but search on your computer for sites about then it will come up and u delete it fast. i dont know if this works for you but it did for me.

if you need me to explain it better tell me ok.

[Whodini]

can you explain it better since I am having the same problem. You delete all of the files in your favorites folder through IE and then restart. What will come up when you search for sites on the computer?

Thanks.

[mobstert2005]

First of all is your homepage about.blank?

[Whodini]

yes it is.

[mobstert2005]

did you delete the sites about folder in favorits?

[Whodini]

I deleted everything in the Favorites folder, which I did through IE and also via the command prompt just to make sure. This was in the c:\document and settings\owner\favorites

However, when I restarted I still get the error if I select Search, Control Panel, My Computer, etc. I am still only able to open applications or browser.

[Pilli]

I've moved this thread to here as it was serving no useful purpose in the TDS3 forum.The thread may also get better attention here :)

Thanks. Pilli

EDIT: Please use this link for malware cleaning instructions:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=50662

[mobstert2005]

go into windows meadia player and then go into open file and go into it and delete it from there.

[Cynheidre]

I seem to remember something about sysfader, IE and browseui.dll somewhere in the recent past.

[matrixreloaded]

Hi,there, I got the same SysFader problem couple of weeks ago. I solved my problem by change the display property of it. Google led me here. Now I came back to give my solution to this problem hoping it can cast some light on others' problem.

I recalled that it was the time after I upgraded a microsoft security patch, the problem appears. It seems that the glitch here not related to virus, borland, video card etc. I have tried the proposed solution from the posts above, but in vain.

Ok, here we go. I put a screenshot of the display dialog box settings.

http://storage.msn.com/x1pAdjo0uCo2H2TkMjjJTLe7iiQIHO2RrB5rk29YmQWwrfDYKF5urq5ho_-WDggK5CvK8PrvSyOcbekmDbWQkFYS-bkROkL5NzD9ol-BXLxSHETV75s99Lk1Q

Change Diaplay property setting's tab something like "Web", "using active desktop to display web content", (I am using a non-English version w2k), you have to guess it to get the nuts and bolts together. Although you didn't tick it (blank box) but "current page" is selected below, then you got the problem! Solution is to UNcheck it, you have to tick something like "using active desktop to display web content" to enable the tick option box below FIRST, uncheck it, then uncheck the option box above as in the screenshot.

If other's problem can also be solved, then this should be reported as a system bug to MS. Please reply here so that more people come here can know whether it works or not. For the nitty and gritty, no ideas about that. IMHO, probably it's related to one of the security upgrade somehow loaded the SysFader in error when openning any file windows although it is UNchecked from the display property window.

Cheers and good luck!

tclandtk

[mikel]

Gentlemen,

I just got rid of the SYSFADER bug by simple "restoring" system from the basic windows function. Take a restoring date which firmly predates the date on which you first encountered SYSFADER memory issues, e.g. one week before that time.

This way you reset system and do not harm latest personal files.

Good luck. I have to leave, going to make back-ups....

Mikel

[cho]

Anyone,

My Microsoft Windows XP Home platform is in a state where any invocation of Windows Explorer results in a fatal error in an error dialog window that appears with the following text:

SysFader: explorer.exe - Application Error
The instruction at "0x10040065" referenced memory at "0x00000000". The memory could not be written.
...

Other symptoms included:

other applications fail
after failure, the Microsoft Error Reporting interface appears (and I select send), the desktop "freezes" and after a long wait, the task bar, system trays and desktop shortcuts are slowly "redisplayed"
longer boot times

I've unsuccessfully applied many techniques that I've used in the past or that are commonly posted in related threads, which included:

I applied all the latest operating system and application patches and service packs, which had no impact on the problem.

I ran a virus detection & removal technology with the latest definition files and engine. To be specific, I ran:

McAfee VirusScan Pro 2005 Version 9.0

with the latest definitions and several issues were identified. I tried to delete, quarantine and clean the flagged files with McAfee VirusScan Pro 2005 Version 9.0 and a few were removed but for the majority of the files, it failed on all attempts. It had issues with problematic files as identified and named in the GUI that did not exist when it attempted to "cleanse", e.g. it identified C:\WINDOWS\explorer.scf:jzdeh as one of the problematic files during the scan but when I attempted a delete or quarantine or clean ", no file of that name existed.

I scanned with "spyware" detection and removal tools with the latest definition files and engine. I used:

Microsoft Windows AntiSpyware Beta
Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE Personal Edition 1.05
Webroot Spy Sweeper 3.5
PepiMK Software Spybot - Search & Destroy 1.3

and each addressed other less significant issues but did not solve the problem I identified earlier.

I executed the latest:

Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool

that resulted in no change.

I reran all the previously mentioned tools in "Safe Mode", which made no difference.

I've disabled all "Transition Effects", which did not solve my problem.

I looked at some of the descriptions of similar problems listed at sites like:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=24363&page=2

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/win2000/t1020125925

but all the recommendations did not work or the files or configuration settings did not exist in this situation.

I manually removed the explorer.scf. This worked only for explorer.exe issues and only temporarily. It allowed me to invoke Windows Explorer but after several hours of use the problem reappeared.

I manually removed the explorer.scf since I didn't recognize it and it seemed to be "wrapping" the real application. This worked. It allowed me to invoke Windows Explorer but after several hours of use the problem reappeared.

Does anyone have any suggestions short of reformatting and reinstallation?

Thank you in advance for your help.

[ryn]

A SOLUTION (for me anyway)


I have spent the past 2 days helping a friend with this Sysfader error. Specifically, when they clicked on My Computer, My Documents, My Pictures, Control Panel, or Search the following error appeared:

Sysfader:Explorer.exe
The instruction at "0x021f0065" reference memory at "0x00000000".
The memory could not be "written".


I followed most of the suggestions in this post and numerous other posts. Including:
Windows Updates
Microsoft Antispyware
Symantec Antivirus
SpyBot S&D
Editing the Display Properties
Searching for the WinShow virus (not there)

None of these solved the problem. Even when run in Safe Mode.

I managed to get into the AddRemovePrograms (as I could not click on control panel, I went to START - SET PROGRAM ACCESS AND DEFAULTS). There I found several suspicious programs running that were not picked up by the previously mentioned programs. These included:

Home Search Assistant
Shopping Wizard
Search Extender

I also noticed that Microsoft Antispyware was going crazy trying to block changes from being made to Internet Explorer's default home pages and other default pages.

This is how I realized that the computer was infected with CoolWebSearch. I proceded to spend forever trying to remove it. I used the reccomendations from this site:
http://www.short-media.com/review.php?r=259
This did not remove the offending organism.

Also then used the most recent CWshredder.exe found at CNET. This removed the organism. CoolWebSearch (Home Search Assistant, Shopping Wizard, and Search Extender) was gone. Unfortunately, Microsoft Antispyware and Symantec Antivirus no longer functioned properly. I reinstalled them.

VOILA. The SysFader problem was fixed too.

I recognize that this SysFader error may be due to different causes for different people. But in my case, it was fixed by removing the CoolWebSearch infection with CWshredder.

I hope someone finds this helpful.

[jryan15]

i have been clean with cwshredder for a few days now and am still having problems with sysfader. i do have problems with my nvidia drivers during shutdown. i always have to manually end the nvidia program becuase it doesn't respond.

i am going to delete the drivers and see what happens. i will post with any results. thanks.

[djash]

Look guys, I'm having exactly the same problem and my INTERNET explorer is working fine but my EXPLORER.exe isn't working at all.

I looked through so many sites and none of them have worked. Can someone please just tell me what I do to get rid of this problem.

By the way, I think it originated from the Dr Watson bug. I have gotten rid of that but it seems to have left some nasty tracks on my computer.

Can someone please tell me how to stop this virus? No suggestions, I want how to get rid of it properly.

Please help

[kami]

well i have a prb with sYsfader.exe i first noticed it in my task manager applications tab after i tried to load up into a game server and the game froze (not responding status in manager) and it took forever to get the game shut off (had to hit end task repeatedly) finally i went to task manager and notcied sYsfader.exe in my applications tab, the cpu usage was fluctiating from the normal 5 percent to like 35 and an all i had running was a voice chat program (teamspeak) and it seemed odd to me how do i get rid of this without messing up anything useful...

[ams123]

I have had the problem of not being able open IE after a hybernation or standby, W2K. After going through these forums and having none of the solutions fix my problem I deleted the most recently installed software, itunes, and fixed my problem. Hope this helps someone else.

[ams123]

Well I was just a little to quick on that one. Seems my problems are still there.

[chubb]

i had a similar problem with sysfader: explorer.exe error and it seems to be caused by a bho. i can't open folders when i have the problem and i managed to track it down using a combination of spyware and antivirus programs!

[chubb]

PS... i still get the bho comin back but i'm able to disable it, an annoyance but less so than not opening ANY folders!

and does anyone know what C:\WINDOWS\apifs32.exe is?? it seems to pop up with the bho always!

[DFP]

I've also encountered this problem -- it is a real pain. I think I have found a temporary fix. I noticed when I opened Tools>>Manage Add-ons in IE that there were some add-ons that were enabled that I had no clue what they were or why they were running. I simply disabled them and now things work fine -- for now anyway. Hope this helps.

DFP

[slacker]

I have been having the same problems--Sysfader unable to write to memory errors whenever I tried to open My Computer--and here is what I did:

1st attempt - Windows repair - did not work
2nd attempt - disabled all transition and display effects - did not work
3rd attempt - VIA patch - did not work
4th attempt - booted to safe mode and 1. ran CWShredder (removed HomeSearch), 2. Ran Hijack This! (fixed a changed start page), 3. Installed latest nVidia drivers. 4. Rebooted

This worked for me. I also enabled the fade effects again, and the problem did not come back.

Hope that helped,

Dan

[Loot]

I have the same problem with this virus. I just got rid of it. Here's what I suggest.

1. Try system restore from a week or so before infection. My system restore was not working so this option was unavialable.

2.Download Symantek antivirus(or other virus sw), Microsoft Anitspyware, Lavasoft Ad-aware, Spybot S&D and Hijackthis AND cwshredder.exe.

3. Boot into safe mode.

4. Run Deep system scan in symantek and kill the bad files.

5. Run Full system scan with MS Anti-Spyware and kill the bad files.

6. Run lavasoft ad-aware and kill the bad files.

7. Run Spybot S&D and kill the bad files.

8. Run HiJackThis and delete the BHO entries as well as other start up entries associated with ur version of the virus.

9. Reboot and hope you are Cool Free.

[TLB]

-{ Quote: "I've also encountered this problem -- it is a real pain. I think I have found a temporary fix. I noticed when I opened Tools>>Manage Add-ons in IE that there were some add-ons that were enabled that I had no clue what they were or why they were running. I simply disabled them and now things work fine -- for now anyway. Hope this helps.

DFP" }-
Your recommendation to disable add-ons worked great. Thru process of elimination I fold one add-on called javaus.dll that was causing the problem where I could not launch "windows explorer". It also solved the problem of an anoying home page that I could not get rid of.

Thanks!

[SexIsGood4U]

Hi Guys & Gals,

I really don't wanna throw a spanner in the works as I have read all the post messages and all is correct in their own way and congrats for all who have attempted to solve the matter at hand. But here goes......
I own and run a new established internet cafe and build all my computers to the same spec so that I unify any issues (in theory it works) (by the way, all new hardware aswell). But when I first set up twenty (20) computers (they are not terminals but independent PC) one (1) PC had this problem on a regular basis (like everyday, but roughly about 20 minutes into boot up). I had nortons but upgraded to another anti-virus software (which now I have removed cos my serve does all the hard work now). But anyhow, it was near impossible to remove Nortons completely so I just wiped the hard drive and re-installed XP (sp2) with all its current updates. Guess what..... the one (1) pc that had the issue runs perfectly fine, BUT the PC next to it and another one have that issue now. So I thought and did re-installed XP (sp2) those two again and again, and they still have the problem, but only when they felel like crashing. Sometimes the PCs are getting heavily used and they run smooth as. When I go to clean and service them, sometimes they just crash (at first I thought the room might be cursed with ghosts cos no other IT friends and associates knew or understood of my problem) till I came across this site and well, well, well.... the room is not cursed. Others are having this issue aswell ???

My opinion is that it is a combination of issues causing this problem;

It has something to do with Microsoft Operating System programm >:(
I "think" it does have something to do with a trojan (but some of you guys have thrown some of the well know software into your pc and some hacker out there would not have created such a small pest if so) >:(
What I would also like to know is what are your hardware configurations? (motherboard, chip, ram, harddrive, videocard, psu, extra fans... ect. Including brands and models eg. my hard drive is Seagate - SATA) cos for example it might be heat related and making the chip malfuction. (i doubt it but just curious that we all might have something in common, like ram from the same factory)

[Heat]

If none of this works and you have XP SP2, you will have to remove SP2. That was the only thing that worked for me after trying all solutions I can find on the net. SP2 jacks up everything. I have to get a new soundcard also. Hope this helps.

[SexIsGood4U]

You are absolutely correct. I would love to run linux, but being public operator, you can not train everyone to use your set-up in 5 seconds.
For example I did a test by removing "internet explorer" and leaving "mozilla firefox". I had 95% people lost with 90% of them sit there like idiots. What do you do? .... give people the option of both (a little more work on my side but thats life) :P
I even changed the picture icon and naming of mozilla firefox to the internet explorer and had 80% people lost in goo goo land ???
I hate Microsoft and it's low life operating system. After all the years and billions of dollars it makes.... they can not even correct their own operating system, but are still finding ways to make more billions of dollars saying it's more friendly user for who... a moron that can not even boot a pc. MS cause more grief than pleasure to all (beginners to professionals), I assure you of that I am certain. >:(

[Kitty]

I've had this little thing pop up in my taskbar for a month or so now, but never managed to catch it in time to see what it was.
Finally I was watching the Applications and saw SysFader pop up.
I have no idea what it is or what's causing it because...well....I've run everything and searched through things and can't find a thing wrong with my computer....

[Kitty]

Forgot to mention one thing.
After searching high and low for this file, it's nowhere to be found.
It's almost like it only exists when it wants to...and this little thing popping into my taskbar but not my desktop and being a blank button is really starting to annoy me....

[jerryfr40]

I have been fighting this for over a week now also. It may have started with me about the time I downloaded an update for Java. Did anyone else download this update? There has to be a common cause and if it could be identified maybe someone would be able to find a solution.

[Kay P]

According to Dell tech support, sysfader problems are caused by conflicts between Service Pack 1 and Service Pack 2. Options to fix are wiping your hard drive and then reinstalling XP (in my case, didn't ask about other OS) with SP 1 and then never downloading SP 2. Or wife your hard drive and buy a new XP with SP 2, thereby putting $ in the coffer of Microsoft, which caused the problem. Dell has been getting many, many calls, with a wide variety of symptoms, as evidenced by this thread.

[WilBeDed]

I HAVE FIXED THE PROBLEM!!!!

Start, Right click My Computer, Properties, Advanced Tab, Click the settings button under performance, Choose Adjust for best performance. Job Done!

I have been working on it all night, it was that simple. If this worked for you, please tell me throu email.*****@hotmail.com

[SexIsGood4U]

Alright all,

The last couple of notices are correct in their proceedures in solving the issue. This is just another one if all the others fail.

sysfader = system fader (me will shorthand it "SF" here)

SF is fading of widows and icons from your screen. Basically what it is written as.

If you have the courage to touch your hardware in the PC. What I did was remove the CPU and place it back in. I have been thrashing this PC for the last two days and she is running sweet.

Only thing is you just have to reconfigure you bios if you have changed any of your bios setting.

[SexIsGood4U]

Got some even worse news for guys and gals out their with "sysfader".

I have do everything that has been posted in the site and many more, including the options that I have offered. And the bloody machine still craps itself. The mouse icon seems to be still moving aound the screen but then after 5 minutes, it goes beeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppp........ till I turn the power switch off from the back.
SOFTWARE -
I have used some of the best software that people have recommended and even paid for the full edition cos some of them are pretty usefull in other areas of business. THIS HAS NOT HELPED.
HARDWARE -
I have slowly changed every part of my PC hardware with the exact same model and brand (video card, RAM, CPU, PSU, hard drive). Even wiped the hard drive and re-installed all the programms with another disc. The only one component I have not changed till 48 hours ago was the motherboard (keeping with the same brand and model). YES

Guys and girls, it has something to do with the motherboard. Don't ask me what, as I'm not here to explain the problem but only to solve it any way I can. I have thrashed my machine for over 48 hours now and not one crash. Not one "sysfader error", whatever the hell that is. (who cares about the issue, just fix the issue)

Thats all folks

[Primrose]

-{ Quote: "Got some even worse news for guys and gals out their with "sysfader".

I have do everything that has been posted in the site and many more, including the options that I have offered. And the bloody machine still craps itself. The mouse icon seems to be still moving aound the screen but then after 5 minutes, it goes beeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppp........ till I turn the power switch off from the back.
SOFTWARE -
I have used some of the best software that people have recommended and even paid for the full edition cos some of them are pretty usefull in other areas of business. THIS HAS NOT HELPED.
HARDWARE -
I have slowly changed every part of my PC hardware with the exact same model and brand (video card, RAM, CPU, PSU, hard drive). Even wiped the hard drive and re-installed all the programms with another disc. The only one component I have not changed till 48 hours ago was the motherboard (keeping with the same brand and model). YES

Guys and girls, it has something to do with the motherboard. Don't ask me what, as I'm not here to explain the problem but only to solve it any way I can. I have thrashed my machine for over 48 hours now and not one crash. Not one "sysfader error", whatever the hell that is. (who cares about the issue, just fix the issue)

Thats all folks" }-

Looks like you went about it the hard way..that bugger is being cleaned off systems without going through the nightmare you experienced..but glad you put some humour into the postings you are making today. ;D


http://forum.gladiator-antivirus.com/index.php?showtopic=25087&hl=sysfader\.exe&st=0

[SexIsGood4U]

Hi Primrose,

Need your assistance. Whats the easiest way to remove this god forsaken virus. (remember, I am no wiz kid) It has popped up in another one of my pc's and starting drive my nuts ???

Kindest Regards
;D

[JayB4twenty]

Man, this has been driving me nutz for weeks now too....I finally got it by turning off all add ons in IE. I know the problem is supposed to be with explorer.exe but turned off the add-ons did the trick for me. Hopes this helps. IE>tools>manage add ons>turn all the ******* off. I think this problem may be with a new update for JAVA; but I am not certain. Thanks for the help. Oh, by the way I tryed everything else posted on the thread before this worked so I know how it feels. Latz.

[Kay P]

Update to my conversations with Dell re sysfader. (See 2nd to last message on p. 4 of this thread.) Have been away so haven't acted on Dell's advice to wipe my hard drive and install either my OS + SP1 or OS + SP2. Dell now says the solution is ONLY to wipe the hard drive and reinstall the OS + SP1, that the problem is in SP2, not in a conflict between SP1 and SP2 as they previously told me. The Dell tech told me he expects 99 out of 100 computers with SP2 will have sysfader problems!!!!! Down the rabbit hole: Only one teeny mention of sysfader.exe, related to email, on Microsoft's support site, no mentions on Symantec's (thinking most people will first think it's a virus), and NONE on DELL'S support site!!!

[Primrose]

-{ Quote: "Hi Primrose,

Need your assistance. Whats the easiest way to remove this god forsaken virus. (remember, I am no wiz kid) It has popped up in another one of my pc's and starting drive my nuts ???

Kindest Regards
;D" }-

First do these steps

Guidelines for Posting in This Forum, READ THIS FIRST PLEASE


http://forum.gladiator-antivirus.com/index.php?showtopic=10517

Then post your hijackthis log in a new topic at this fourm


HELP! Think you are Infected?

http://forum.gladiator-antivirus.com/index.php?showforum=170


To use that forum you must first register at our Board.

[Primrose]

-{ Quote: "Hi Primrose,

Need your assistance. Whats the easiest way to remove this god forsaken virus. (remember, I am no wiz kid) It has popped up in another one of my pc's and starting drive my nuts ???

Kindest Regards
;D" }-

I would caution anyone who is getting info from many forums on this Sysfader.exe supposed problem..and then taking action based upon what they have read..rather than having someone help to take a closer look with them..that they might end up doing more harm than good..since not all PC's with a file called Sysfader.exe is exploited and you may end up with more problems.

see this thread


http://forum.gladiator-antivirus.com/index.php?showtopic=25533&st=0

[zoriv]

visit this page:
http://www.talkaboutsoftware.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.accessibility/search.html?q=Sysfader%3AExplorer.exe&Submit=Search%21

[AGILITY]

We fixed this problem on XP SP2 by running CWShredder and HijackThis. We had three Shopping Assistants installed that couldn't be deleted, but since running these tools all's been well.

[Kir]

Hi. I had a problem with SysFader - in my case it was constantly changing my dial-up connection settings to odd numbers. Every time I opened Settings->Internet Connections->Dial-up connection I saw an application SysFader appearing for a second in the Task Manager. I searched through the system, found no files of that name. AVG antivirus, MsAntiSpyware and AdwareSpy found nothing... Finally in MsAntiSpyware events logfile i found that an unknown application "usbn.exe" was allowed to be added to the Windows startup registry - perhaps my child did so while searching the internet. I went to reported adress (c:\windows\system32\usbn.exe) - a file with no icon, couldn't neither open nor delete it... but I dragged it into Notepad and it appeared to be something linked with porn sites... Finally it allowed to rename itself, after rename I could delete it, emptied the recycle bin and bye-bye :) Now have no more problems!

[real1adam]

Whenever I open up McAfee SecurityCenter (Shortcut, Link, Actual Program), in my TaskManager I see:

SysFader.exe for like 2 seconds, and then it disappears.

SysFader doesn't affect my Internet Explorer nor does it seem to affect my system. Only McAfee SecurityCenter (Virus Scan works like a miracle). Very strange.

What do I do?

[DMF_ex]

Let me through a monkey wrench into the works. My biggest problem is the Dial-up dialog constantly popping up (I use cable modem, but keep a idal-up modem as backup). And I see unexplained network activity. I've seen random "can't write to memory location" errors, but those are usually harmless. No crashes. What got me onto SysFader is that it (whatever it is) wouldn't close on reboot. Symantic AV (corporate), AdAware, Spybot, Spyblaster, CWSshredder, couple of others find nothing. No "sysfader.exe" or "usbn.exe" anywhere on the system.

Here's the thing, though. I have practically none of the supposed "suspect" s/w or h/w. This is Win2K with SP2, Firefox, nothing from nVidia. No Outlook or Express. I *did* install Azureus recently.

Hope that doesn't confuse things too much.

[thiscomputer]

I sent an email to Microsoft's online support service after reading all the posts here caused me to fear the worst. They responded in one day and my sysfader problem was history:

Thank you for contacting Microsoft Online Support Service.

From your description, I understand that after installing Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2) when opening any files the following error message occurs:

"SysFader: Explorer.EXE Application Error
instruction at 0X025b0065 referenced memory at 0X00000000. memory could not be written."
If there has been any misunderstanding, please let me know.
I understand the inconvenience that you are experiencing. Please be assured that I will try my best to help you resolve this issue.

The issue can be caused by incorrect settings of Data Execution Prevention (DEP). I suggest we perform the following steps to work around this problem:

1. Please click "Start" menu => click "Run" => type "cmd" <without quotation marks> and click "OK".
2. Type or copy the following commands into the prompt window:
Note: Please do not press Enter key until you see the (Press Enter Key) prompt.

Attrib -R -H -S c:\boot.ini (Press Enter Key)
Notepad C:\Boot.ini (Press Enter Key)

3. In new pop up window, replace the parameter /NoExecute=xxxxx with /Execute
4. Save the Boot.ini file
5. Restart your computer
Note: Save a copy of your original c:\boot.ini file as a backup before you make changes.

[bkw515_d_sysfader]

I think I am on the right track...I tried to used the Hijack This and deleted some HBO files or something but it still sysfader.exe happened...but then, I tried to delete a file in safe mode, because access was denied, it is in windows/system 32/odobzx.exe...and a similar dll name. McAffee pick these up and I blocked them...I tried to start a game and got the sysfader.exe and the ef7194.tmp process, but then it loaded after telling me I needed to do an upgrade after reinstall...

BKW515

[bkw515_d_sysfader]

My system is XP...

BKW515

[JediFrank]

do this

Click Start, go to Settings, click Control Panel, double-click Display. Click Appearance, then click Effects. Now UNCHECK the first four boxes.Not only do you not need any of these, but they will cure your problem and speed up your Desktop.

Sysfader is the program used in XP to give you those Fade Effects. It is not a virus or a malware.

[srlan]

I kill process called "hpcmpm" and the problem are solved. No more problem.

Try it.

I have a HP PSC 1315

By

[Grubi]

Hi,

I had the same Problem. sysfader.exe didn`t response when I wanted to shutdown my XP throught start menue (classic style).
I don`t know why, put I solved the problem by deactivating and re-activating my network card.

good luck

[Zix]

I had same exact problem...All I did was, Boot in safe mode and restored Win XP (serv.Pack2) to 2 days before...After that my machine was back to normal...
Z

[OMG]

-{ Quote: "Got some even worse news for guys and gals out their with "sysfader".

I have do everything that has been posted in the site and many more, including the options that I have offered. And the bloody machine still craps itself. The mouse icon seems to be still moving aound the screen but then after 5 minutes, it goes beeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppp........ till I turn the power switch off from the back.
SOFTWARE -
I have used some of the best software that people have recommended and even paid for the full edition cos some of them are pretty usefull in other areas of business. THIS HAS NOT HELPED.
HARDWARE -
I have slowly changed every part of my PC hardware with the exact same model and brand (video card, RAM, CPU, PSU, hard drive). Even wiped the hard drive and re-installed all the programms with another disc. The only one component I have not changed till 48 hours ago was the motherboard (keeping with the same brand and model). YES

Guys and girls, it has something to do with the motherboard. Don't ask me what, as I'm not here to explain the problem but only to solve it any way I can. I have thrashed my machine for over 48 hours now and not one crash. Not one "sysfader error", whatever the hell that is. (who cares about the issue, just fix the issue)

Thats all folks" }-

OH MY GOD

This was never going to be a hardware problem. If you had taken the simple step of either creating another XP user or a reinstall of XP you would have relised this is definately a software issue. And a MOTHERBOARD problem, god dam you need to be shot!! Stay away from your PC, you dont have a clue!! I don't know exactly why its now working for you, but id stake my house you O/S has changes settings in some way


Simple logical procsess of elimintation, the first thing you should have done is eliminated software before you even considered touching a screw on your PC.

I have EXACTLY the same problem, I know its not hardware because I installed a 2nd duel boot copy of XP on my system, 2nd copy works perfectly. It looked like software, smelt like software. If your PC is doing 1 thing wrong consistantaly and everything else works pretty much ok, its probably software!!

[iceni60]

when i was playing around with my computer i found SysFader. if i do a search for it it's not found. here's where i came across it.

[para]

-{ Quote: "I have been fighting this for over a week now also. It may have started with me about the time I downloaded an update for Java. Did anyone else download this update? There has to be a common cause and if it could be identified maybe someone would be able to find a solution." }-



yes thats what i also did hmm

[Birdonthewater]

-{ Quote: "I HAVE FIXED THE PROBLEM!!!!

Start, Right click My Computer, Properties, Advanced Tab, Click the settings button under performance, Choose Adjust for best performance. Job Done!

I have been working on it all night, it was that simple. If this worked for you, please tell me throu email.*****@hotmail.com" }-
I wouldn't call it a solution, it's a workaround.

I'm amazed to see so many many people come up with different causes; virus, BO, video card issue, OS, etc.

I hope you don't mind me saying so, but you all sound like real amateurs...

[Paolo]

-{ Quote: "

JediFrank you are the best! Thank you!

[JBrowne]

Hello,

I have been experiencing Sysfader problems as well, though they mostly concerned themselves with email issues (got messages popping up, etc)

That does not concern me, what concerns me is:

Is Sysfader a keylogger in any shape or form?

i have accesed highly sensitive financial information on my computer that now has this problem, should I go about changing it?

Thanks

J. Browne

[Rashea]

I had the SysFader attack too but I was able to stop it with Windows Task Manager. I really wann kno what it is because if it's a virus I wanna figure out how to get rid of it. But if it's a Microsoft dll then I wanna figure out why it's actin like an idiot! >__<

[Possible help]

I was able to stop this problem (WindowsXP Pro) by unchecking "Enable page transitions" under the "Advanced" tab in Internet Proberties for Internet Explorer and unchecking "... page transition effects for menus ..." in Display Properties under "Appearance," "Effects." I didn't try to determine whether it was necessary to do both actions, but I have not had a problem with SysFader since disabling these two items. Hope this helps.

[Possible help]

Sorry all. Please disregard my previous message (disabling page transitions). SysFader error has come back......

[Shalina]

Hi Everyone.

After reading all the posts here, I want to expose my problem, I have a network with 6 Computers (WinXP Pro) And a PC with WIN2003 Server, and when I attempt to open a file (TXT, DOC, XLS, BMP) It open 2 minutes later..., When I disconnected the pcs from the network it worked fine, the files where opening as fast as usual, but when I connected Again, the files where slow to open again. I start wondering what was going on, and then I opened the task manager while the file was loading, at the taskmgr I saw the famous "SYSFADER.EXE" executing. Oh My!, I searched it over the net and now I'm really confused, we don't use Internet at those machines, and we only installed an Accounting Software a few days ago..

What can I do? is that a "Fade Effect" Thing, Is a Trojan? or it's a major thing?. Does anyone here solved the problem with a posted Solution?.

Thanks.

[Megatronsin]

Anyone who having problems by any chance using cordless mouse/keyboards.

Ive spent the last hour trying to figure out why

a) nothing would open without right clicking and selecting open
b) i couldnt click back when going through the folders or links on
c) Why double click wouldnt work.

Today was the problem when i installed my Logitech MX300 keyboard (the MX1000 mouse worked fine up til then)

Noticing for the first time that sysfader would show up, google brought me here, and i tried some of the fixes.

Restarting for the last time, still not able to make anything work, i thought, ill try my usb corded mouse, which is still plugged in in case the cordless croaks, and it works fine. All the menus and buttons that didnt work now work. Also noticed that i have 2 MX1000's listed in the setpoint config. So am now gonna uninstall the setpoint stuff and try and get both cordless devices working nice together.

[SexIsGood4U]

-{ Quote: "Hi Everyone.

After reading all the posts here, I want to expose my problem, I have a network with 6 Computers (WinXP Pro) And a PC with WIN2003 Server, and when I attempt to open a file (TXT, DOC, XLS, BMP) It open 2 minutes later..., When I disconnected the pcs from the network it worked fine, the files where opening as fast as usual, but when I connected Again, the files where slow to open again. I start wondering what was going on, and then I opened the task manager while the file was loading, at the taskmgr I saw the famous "SYSFADER.EXE" executing. Oh My!, I searched it over the net and now I'm really confused, we don't use Internet at those machines, and we only installed an Accounting Software a few days ago..

What can I do? is that a "Fade Effect" Thing, Is a Trojan? or it's a major thing?. Does anyone here solved the problem with a posted Solution?.

Thanks." }-

Sysfader lukes within. I would like to ask afew firstly. Do all your PC's have this problem, or just one?

You mentioned that you have networked 6 pc's. What are you using? (hub, switch - brand andmodel if possible)??

Have you checked each PC how many packets they are receiving and sending??

What configuration are your pc's. Might be the lacking cpu or RAM ?? (just a guess)

Is the problem, with your pc with WIN2003 Server? (if so, change it with a pc without the issue. (going by what you have said so far, hard ware configuration are the same)

Sysfader is a hard one to answer. It's not within your hard drive, but I reckon it's a bios issue. I own a computer business, along with a internet cafe. One of my pc's had this problem and I swapped all the hardware one by one. Leaving the motherboard to last. And no more bloody issue. I don't have the pleasure of wasting time to find the problem but to solve it as quickly as possible. Cost of efficiency is what I come down to. One less pc means your efficiency is not maximised. I would assume that is the way you would look at it as well ;)


Kind Regards
SIG4U ;D

[SexIsGood4U]

-{ Quote: "Anyone who having problems by any chance using cordless mouse/keyboards.

Ive spent the last hour trying to figure out why

a) nothing would open without right clicking and selecting open
b) i couldnt click back when going through the folders or links on
c) Why double click wouldnt work.

Today was the problem when i installed my Logitech MX300 keyboard (the MX1000 mouse worked fine up til then)

Noticing for the first time that sysfader would show up, google brought me here, and i tried some of the fixes.

Restarting for the last time, still not able to make anything work, i thought, ill try my usb corded mouse, which is still plugged in in case the cordless croaks, and it works fine. All the menus and buttons that didnt work now work. Also noticed that i have 2 MX1000's listed in the setpoint config. So am now gonna uninstall the setpoint stuff and try and get both cordless devices working nice together." }-

Hi Megatronsin,

Try un-installing your old programm from your previous keybaord and mouse. Then installing your new keyboard and mouse programm. Then open each of those programms and check what the default settings are ;)
You might want to change them around to your own liking. I had to change mine. The wheel on my mouse button would take me back to windows. >:( So if I was playing games and accidently hit the wheel on me mouse.... BANG, im back on the windows screen.... aaarrrrhhhhhh. Too late, someone just shot me. :'(

Let me know how you go. Hope we don't have to take your matter to far on the technical side ;)

Kind Regards
SIG4U
;D

[Mario]

Thanks, this fixed my ie hanging problem.


-{ Quote: "Sysfader is not a virus. It seems to be installed with nVidia drivers.
My display driver is provided by nVidia. It offers all kinds of options and one of them is the culprit. The solution is Go to START > CONTROL PANEL > DISPLAY > NVIDIA NVIEW DESKTOP MANAGER > tab DESKTOP MANAGEMENT > PROPERTIES > tab APPEARANCE > EFFECTS and uncheck the FADE EFFECT option. God knows what it does but unchecking it solves the problem." }-

[niggiebro]

Hey All,

Had all the symtom as everyone on Google search. I noticed in Task Manager a program that had 5 to 6 characters, letters and numbers, all in Caps, esp (ZH3B3A.EXE), that chanced after every start-up and end task. This file is located in the C:\WINDOWS\TEMP. It can't be deleted, but can be moved and end tasked, only to come back as a different named file. Its icon is a "LITTLE DOG". What worked for me is using the newest version of ZoneAlarm Pro., that has a "KILL" option in it Program section. It allows you to add the program for you to control it. After that I have not had a problem. I believe it to be a new virus that the AV developers haven't created a definition for. I found it on 3 of my systems as we all share files with one another. Check to see if that "LITTLE DOG" is on your system! If so, that has to be the "SYSFADER"!!!

[niggiebro]

Hey all,

I was wrong about the little dog file, it was part of the Trend Micro AV software I use! ;D

FYI, I just updated my Windows using Windows Update and all is work great!!! :D I believe this update did the trick: Cumulative Security Update for IE for WinXP: KB896727

Apparently it fixed what M$ missed up in the first place with the update before this one! >:(

Oh yeah before you can use Windows Update you have to DL and install "Windows Genuine Advantage" software that checks to make sure your copy of Windows is authentic and licensed to you. ;)

[Vingaard]

You can see the relevant information (and the "solution")
about SysFader here:
http://vingaard.dk/sysfader.htm

[bcearl]

-{ Quote: "I kill process called "hpcmpm" and the problem are solved. No more problem.

Try it.

I have a HP PSC 1315

By" }-



I've tried everythinglisted on this discussion. Nothing worked. It has nothing to do with the Fade Effect, etc. I have a NVIDIA Geforce3 Ti 200 with NVIDIA drivers. I found that NVIDIA wasn't to blame for this. Turns out I have a HP PSC 2355 so I disabled "hpcmpmgr.exe" from startup using msconfig. Turns out this was the problem, which makes sense now because sysfader.exe began showing up around the time I got my printer. Anywho, for anyone who has an HP printer, this is probabaly your reason why! Just disabling hpcmpmgr.exe from startup should fix all HP related sysfader.exe problems. Good luck!

[greenf]

how do you disable it from startup because so far nothing else has worked for me to get rid of this.

[bcearl]

Go to Start -> Run and type msconfig. Under the startup tab, deselect hpcmpmgr. Under the General tab, it should automatically change from Normal Startup to Selective Startup.

[duckman]

I uninstalled mcafee virus protection and that got ride of it for me.

[coil]

If you run Task Manager (Ctl+Alt+Del), then switch to it's "Applications" tab, then press "Start(button)->Turn Off Computer(Start Menu option)", you will see SysFader appear in the Applications list of Task Manager as the desktop ***fades to grayscale*** (leaving only the shutdown window in color).

Thus "SysFader" is a system fader.

[Solution...]

sysfader.exe is an process belonging to the Nvidia graphics device range and is bundled alongside these products. This is a non-critical system process although it should not be terminated unless suspected of causing problems.

[smeea]

I found a fix. As the sysfader comes from nVidia, download a new driver to your desktop, delete all nVidia drivers with the add/remove program, reboot, load the new driver and reboot. Haven't seen it since.

[smeea]

Clarification: sysfader 'may' be a part of XP, but the nVidia software appears to have caused the problem/conflict (I couldn't shut off my computer due to the sysfader not ending.) So removing ALL nVidia drivers with Windows add/remove program function got rid of the registry entries that appear to have been causing the conflict ... loading the new nVidia driver after reboot seems to have resolved the conflict. It worked for me.

[RutDog]

This thread is great. Sysfader is a pain when it "breaks". Every time I shut down my machine i had to EndProcess on it four or five times.

So, first my configuration, and at the bottom, how I fixed it, with help from this thread.

I have an HP Laptop, fully updated XP Peronsal SP2, running McAfee AV and Sybot S&D inoculated.

As mentioned, it does not appear to be malware, and was not detected by Spybot, Bazooka, or McAfee.

I have an ATI graphics card that has no similar option as described for the nVidia card.

And I found turning off some of those XP standard effects not so easy on my 40 year old eyes.

So I went to WindowsUpdate and downloaded all the non-critical updates I'd been ignoring for months: drivers for modem, ethernet, wireless ethernet, touchpad, outlook fixes, just about everything.

Somehow, that did it. No more sysfader problems. And, as a bonus, my touchpad works better. :)

Good luck to y'all.

[sco1234]

This worked for me with the sysfader issue. I had downloaded XP Service Pack 2 and it came with a firewall which conflicted with MCAfee. When I disbaled the firewall from SP2, the sysfader issued diappeared. Good luck.

[death Joker]

sysfader.exe is an process belonging to the Nvidia graphics device range and is bundled alongside these products. This is a non-critical system process although it should not be terminated unless suspected of causing problems

[ntrinzik]

Ok, look... multiple people have stated that it caused by Nvidia drivers right after someone says "I have ATI".. so here's the deal .. its because it is part of windows, and Nvidia drivers have a custom one included in their driver set... so please, for the love of god, stop saying "it nvidia", because thats not whats affecting everyone.

jeez

[Db8366]

I would now think Sysfader is just a IE quirk and really nothing to worry about at all, so many people think are so paranoid that it is a virus,spyware etc...don't lose sleep over it....

[toastter]

Here's the issue. I have this sys.fader just like everyone else here. I have tried changing my settings so that everything is being used for optimal performance, i have used spybot, adaware SE, norton antivirus, symantec, EMCO malware removal, tried run->config, tried run->regedit, tried to change my settings, tried uninstalling SP2 and reinstalling it, tried looking for files in add/Remove files, tried to get Hack This (have it on computer, but i can't open compressed files because of the sys.fader), tried a system restore (unable to restore), tried worm removal, and none of that made a dent in it. I think it came along with my SP2 files, but now it's gone beyond that i am afraid. My symantec was having issues before. I can't open control panel, many desktop items, my computer, my pictures, my music or anything found on that file genera. I don't know what i am supposed to do with this. I even tried that guys thing about the Run=>cmd=>attrib -r -h -s c:\boot.ini, and that didn't do anything really. If anyone comes up with a solution PLEASE help me. I can only function on Firefox, iTunes, and Word Processor as of late. I can also play media files if i access them through the player and not try to get to the files themselves.>:( >:( >:( I am very pissed, and i don't have the slightest bit of patience for this thing anymore.

[jay2]

i got a problem... well i turn my computer on and it gets past the welcome screen... it loads explorer and then explorer freezes at loading my antivirus program. then i open task manager and close explorer.exe and then restart it. I have probally 3 seconds of explorer till it freezes again. In the three seconds i tried to open up My Computer and other folders. It doesnt open anything and i see "sysfader.exe" flash quicking under applicantions. i can do anything out of Task manager except anything using IE, such as My Computer or My Documents. I can use firefox and my interent and any programs otherwise. I ran my antivirus and cannot get anything. Any ideas?? I cannot use search either.

[Tjoolder]

-{ Quote: "i got a problem... well i turn my computer on and it gets past the welcome screen... it loads explorer and then explorer freezes at loading my antivirus program. then i open task manager and close explorer.exe and then restart it. I have probally 3 seconds of explorer till it freezes again. In the three seconds i tried to open up My Computer and other folders. It doesnt open anything and i see "sysfader.exe" flash quicking under applicantions. i can do anything out of Task manager except anything using IE, such as My Computer or My Documents. I can use firefox and my interent and any programs otherwise. I ran my antivirus and cannot get anything. Any ideas?? I cannot use search either." }-

Exactly the same here. I already did the shade thing in windows and the Nvidia.
The last time I had to reboot it showed me the end process popup with the title of the program 'should not see me' ????
I guess that the only thing left that it could be is virus/spyware.

[FrankS1234]

-{ Quote: "I've also encountered this problem -- it is a real pain. I think I have found a temporary fix. I noticed when I opened Tools>>Manage Add-ons in IE that there were some add-ons that were enabled that I had no clue what they were or why they were running. I simply disabled them and now things work fine -- for now anyway. Hope this helps.

DFP" }-
Thanks,

Awesome. This fixed my problem. I had a problem with IE. Every time I tried to open a new session it reverted to and cancelled the open session. This worked for me. The file was associated with an ActiveX upgrade that a website attempt to install. The file was msjava.dll.

Thanks

[wajing]

sysfader.exe is an process belonging to the Nvidia graphics device range and is bundled alongside these products. This is a non-critical system process although it should not be terminated unless suspected of causing problems.

http://www.processlibrary.com/directory/files/sysfader/

[seev]

-{ Quote: "Sysfader is not a virus. It seems to be installed with nVidia drivers.
My display driver is provided by nVidia. It offers all kinds of options and one of them is the culprit. The solution is Go to START > CONTROL PANEL > DISPLAY > NVIDIA NVIEW DESKTOP MANAGER > tab DESKTOP MANAGEMENT > PROPERTIES > tab APPEARANCE > EFFECTS and uncheck the FADE EFFECT option. God knows what it does but unchecking it solves the problem." }-

I had the same problem with SYSFADER and NVIDIA graphics. The solution above worked like a charm. Thanks. Seev

[ftd]

sysfader.exe appear in my task manager when my adobe acrobat reader doesnt start properly, should be from the adobe software

[finder]

hey guys ,
my system was also affected by this sysfader.exe,n it was not allowing me to access any ftp sites.i was searching for a solution for this.n i got the info abt it from symantec site saying that it will make some entries in registry.
and i tried Microsoft Regclean.
try this......
ALL THE BEST

[haiway]

I have meet this problem. My sysfader problem is caused the register. I have forbidden the window update item in start menu. You may check the your register ,start --> run-->regedit.exe ,find the key as follow:
[HKEY-CURRENT-USER\SOFTWARE\MCROSOFT\WINDOWS\POLICIES\EXPLORER], you may find the item NoCommonGroups , and its value is 1. Then you should change the value as 0 ,and restart your computer. Maybe ,your problem will be resovled.
I wish it will help you.

[_stef]

Originally Posted by DFP
I've also encountered this problem -- it is a real pain. I think I have found a temporary fix. I noticed when I opened Tools>>Manage Add-ons in IE that there were some add-ons that were enabled that I had no clue what they were or why they were running. I simply disabled them and now things work fine -- for now anyway. Hope this helps.

DFP

It Worked !!
a big thank you!

[TingB6]

I also had problems with Sysfader. They manifested as being unable to click almost everything when NOT attached to the inet. When attached all was OK. When shutting down, got warning about Sysfader refusing to end, and would have to pull power to get the box down.

I'm running Win2K Server SP4. Here's what fixed it.

Booted to Safe Mode.
Uninstalled a recently-installed program, DivX player.
Removed Zone Alarm from Startup folder.
In Regedit, searched for "fader" (NOT "sysfader") and found an entry under HKey current user/software/microsoft/internet explorer/explorer bars/{C4EEfoo}/[some other folder that isn't there in XPP]. Changed the data to "faderOLD". In same folder there were a Winshow and Winlink items. Changed both of them to "OLD" too.
Rebooted and problem gone.

Did not check midpoint, so not sure which item did the trick.

Previous searches for a "fader" program turned up nothing, and unchecking the fade effect in Display as noted elsewhere above had no effect.
I also am not running Nvidia and there were no listings for it in registry.

Don't think it's a virus (and Trend had no listing). Possibly related to Zone Alarm?

Thanks all!

[Confused Bob]

Hey Hey!!! It worked. This error has been plaguing my 'puter for months now, making it useless. An I got the error on the most basic icons for control when I upgraded to Windows XP SP2. Worked fine when using WIN98. I juggled the memory, uninstalled and reinstalled the operating system countless of times, and tried virus software. All a waste of time in my case. On a chance and the advice of you good people I disabled all of the plug-ins in Internet Explorer. It seems to work fine, now. Now I'll re-activate each, one at a time to see which one is the culprit. Playing with fire here, but i like some of the plug-ins like Shockwave.

Thank you all!
Smilin' Bob

[kittysdoc]

Found sysfader and winshow in :-

Hkey_Current_user/Software/Microsoft/Search Assistant/ACMru/5603

search assistant is basically needed it (can cause problems if deleted)

Going to delete the 5603 key and see if that sorts my problem...noticed it about 15 mins ago.

Seems like this is attatched to C:\windows\srchasst\

[upanther]

Sysfader is on some computers and not others . . . because it is part of the Nvidia video card install. It isn't a virus or spyware. I do not have it on the computer that I am working on right now, but if it is causing you problems, you may want to uninstall/reinstall your video software and drivers.

[gatorgreen777]

Same as above:

Process File: sysfader or sysfader.exe
Process Name: NVidia Graphics Utility

Description:
sysfader.exe is an process belonging to the Nvidia graphics device range and is bundled alongside these products. This is a non-critical system process although it should not be terminated unless suspected of causing problems.

[NeilS]

I just re-formatted my HD because IE turned unresponsive as soon as I tried to to access another website to research the problem. Having read all of the responses I won't make the same mistake again.

Thank you all!!

[ujjvala]

-{ Quote: "Found sysfader and winshow in :-

Hkey_Current_user/Software/Microsoft/Search Assistant/ACMru/5603

search assistant is basically needed it (can cause problems if deleted)

Going to delete the 5603 key and see if that sorts my problem...noticed it about 15 mins ago.

Seems like this is attatched to C:\windows\srchasst\" }-

Hi Kitty,

Did you search for sysfader? That's the registry where the search application stores the recent search keywords. Search Assistant will not be affected on deleting it.

[ujjvala]

Issue with yahoo Messenger.

It all started with trying to click on yahoo messenger and the process shows for a few seconds before crashing.
On the taskmanager, everytime I bring up yahoo messenger, the sysfader.exe gets fired up and then ypager.exe, which eventually disappears along with sysfader.exe

I have disabled sysfader by unchecking the "User the following transition effects for tools and menus" on Desktop properties -> appearance -> effects.

My yahoo messenger is still crashing thought now I don't see sysfader firing up.

I found a debugger and traced the stack uwind for the crashing process.

80000000`0
eueoeqi!CoolGetVersion+2de7
eueoeqi!CoolGetVersion+2f9c
ntdll!LdrpCallInitRoutine+14
ntdll!LdrpRunInitializeRoutines+344
ntdll!LdrpLoadDll+3e5
ntdll!LdrLoadDll+230
kernel32!LoadLibraryExW+18e
YbSkin2+2741
user32!__ClientLoadLibrary+32
ntdll!KiUserCallbackDispatcher+13
user32!NtUserCallNextHookEx+c
YbSkin2+12d14
user32!DispatchHookA+101
user32!CallHookWithSEH+21
user32!__fnHkINLPMSG+25
ntdll!KiUserCallbackDispatcher+13
user32!NtUserPeekMessage+c
user32!PeekMessageW+bc
user32!DialogBox2+e4
user32!InternalDialogBox+d0
user32!DialogBoxIndirectParamAorW+37
user32!DialogBoxParamA+4c
YPager+88e23
YPager+47623
YPager+4c366
YPager+4598a
user32!InternalCallWinProc+28
user32!UserCallWinProcCheckWow+ea
user32!DispatchClientMessage+a3
user32!__fnINLPCREATESTRUCT+8b
ntdll!KiUserCallbackDispatcher+13
user32!NtUserCreateWindowEx+c
user32!_CreateWindowEx+1ed
user32!CreateWindowExA+33
YPager+45d26
YPager+469d0
YPager+486d2
YPager+99684
YPager+9a946
ntdll!RtlGetFullPathName_Ustr+736
ntdll!RtlGetFullPathName_Ustr+746
80000000`0
ntdll!FastPebLock
ntdll!FastPebLock


Any idea what eueoeqi.dll is all about? Looks more likely to be a yahoo app. Any idea how I can report this to them?

Thanks in advance,
ujjvala

[visual]

I fixed this problem by disabled some of the IE plugins.
Thank you for your help.

[kellerman]

Wow, I've read every one of these posts/solutions and I am amazed at the variety of suggestions! Anyway, I'll just throw another monkeywrench in and see what happens.

This sysfader thing seems to hang up and 'crash' my open programs, periodically. My Dell xps won't shut down and I have to unplug it from the wall and start over. Prior to the sysfader.exe thing coming up and hanging, I have the same window popping up saying that Dell Media Experience can't be shut down (through Windows TAsk Manager) -- the thing is I never USE Dell Media Experience, but it keeps apparently starting up in the background and screwing with my tasking - IE will stop opening, pgs won't load, and everything comes to a HALT. So then after I try to shut everything down w/ ctr/alt/del, eventually it comes down to "Dell Media Experience" is having trouble, blah blah, but like I said I don't use it, and then after that, the last thing is "sysfader.exe can't shut down blah blah" or whatever. On my computer, these 2 things are related, don't know why, other than that I never hear from them... but it happening fairly regularly lately. Today I deleted Dell Media Experience from my computer ,so we'll see. It may be a sound card, or video card or something issue related to the media experience..? I don't have Nvidia, I have an ATI Radeon 9800. I do use Windows Media Player a LOT, so whether that corresponds to when I use that, I don't know yet, I just removed the Dell Media Experience from my computer and am 'hopeful'. LOL! Thanks for all of the suggestions, though, I am preparing to try the Display properties ideas if I continue to have a problem.

[racoonracer]

I had this sysfader problem at work where Internet Explorer v6 works perfectly but whenever java was loaded, IE would crash and the sysfader.exe IExplorer memoery error at 0x0000xxxx - 0x00000xxxx.

After five hours, and the big urge to just reinstall his HD, i decided to remove all the damn toolbars that loaded with IE, specifically the yahoo toolbar which fixed the problem.

try and remove your toolbars from IE if you go sysfader problem with IE

[Lionhead]

http://www.processlibrary.com/directory?files=sysfader

[Kritheon]

-{ Quote: "...Hopes this helps. IE>tools>manage add ons>turn all the ******* off..." }-

Thank you! After trying everything through the first 5 pages, this fixed it. Now I don't expect it to work for everyone because it seems that this general error can come from numerous possibilities, but this one fixed mine.

Specifics:

--A lady brought her computer to me because she couldn't play Yahoo! games Euchre online. As soon as she logged in then clicked on the game link, IE would break and give that general sysfader error.

Solution:

--Driver updates didn't help. Updating to IE7 didn't help. Virus and Spyware scans revealed nothing (no viruses and only a few minor spyware issues). ran with the newest AVG, A2squared, Spybot, and Defender as of November 1, 2006.

--Used the above quote to go into the addons portion of IE7 and turned off the Sun Java addon (cause previous posts mentioned java). Afterwards no more error.


->I haven't reviewed this any further, I'm just happy to post that I fixed my sysfader thing. ;D

**Small UPDATE: Seems the computer had a bad java runtime install. Uninstalled then updated to the newest version and everything is kosher. She can even play her yahoo games again. Noice!

[WizardMaster]

Either me too...... When I restart the computer came popup the taskmanager show a delay timer. I looked a SYSFADER.EXE. Then I click "End Task" button. Gone to Re-boot up.

Until ready the PC, I search the SYSFADER.EXE not found. Then I search a Registry not found. Bit Weird !

I think SYSFADER.EXE came from internet. ??? :-\

Do you think ?

[Nick_morris]

I have been suffering from the Sysfader problem on a lot of curriculum computers, mainly on the Educational Websites such as bbc.co.uk. By removing RealPlayer it resolves the problem. Of course I am now bound to get asked for Realplayer to be reinstalled on some PC's. Any ideas welcome!

Nick.

[KiltJoy]

It's another Microsoft "Added Feature". Like with most M$ unrequested features, turn it off.

To get rid of this problem all you need to do is this:

Press Win Flag + Pause break key. If you don't have the Win Flag key just right click on my computer and select properties.
Go to the 'Advanced' tab
Under 'Performance' click on 'Settings'
Under the 'Visual Effects' tab uncheck the first four check boxes
Click on 'OK'

http://beyondteck.blogspot.com/2006/05/how-to-stop-sysfaderexe-error.html

[ibeme99]

I experienced this same problem. A lot of the proposed solutions here didn't work. What finally seems to have solved the problem for me was turning off the Sandboxie toolbar in IE6 (View-Toolbars).

[D-Technic2000]

The Sysfader error is triggered when iexplore.exe makes the API Function call "mshtml!DllGetClassObject(6365413c)" to the %WINDIR%\system32\mshtml.dll library. It could be a virus/worm that has disabled bits of ie's code (see below), or it may be due to some needed dependancy library(s) that may have been un-installed, & is required for mshtml.dll to complete the called function, & return it's result to iexplore.exe, or ie's web activex control. If that still is not the problem, then iexplore.exe may have requested mshtml.dll to parse corrupted data thus receiving rubbish in return, or an un-wanted program is messing around. If that still is'nt it, then maybe the registry has collision prone entries that is causing IE to try to execute opposing instructions at app termination causing it to get confused, & hang... triggering sysfader (who was told that IE is shutting down) to crash right along with it. Just as a precaution, replace the %WINDIR%\system32\mshtml.dll library with an original copy from either your Win CD, or a trusted dll download site.... it may be corrupted.

It seems to cause the same problem in software that uses the Internet explorer's web control, and makes a similar call.

*----> State Dump for Thread Id 0x1698 <----*
eax=008b52f0 ebx=04b06e68 ecx=03dca5f4 edx=00002539 esi=04b06e68 edi=04a084f8
eip=6365413c esp=0534fad8 ebp=0534fadc iopl=0 nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=001b ss=0023 ds=0023 es=0023 fs=003b gs=0000 efl=00010206

function: mshtml!DllGetClassObject
63654127 56 push esi
63654128 8bf1 mov esi,ecx
6365412a 8b06 mov eax,[esi]
6365412c 85c0 test eax,eax
6365412e 0f858077fdff jne mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0x90ac9 (6362b8b4)
63654134 832600 and dword ptr [esi],0x0
63654137 5e pop esi
63654138 c3 ret
63654139 8b08 mov ecx,[eax]
6365413b 50 push eax
6365413c ff5108 call dword ptr [ecx+0x8] ds:0023:03dca5fc=??.??.??:lurking: The sysfader error message kicks in here.
6365413f ebdb jmp mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0xb9331 (6365411c)
63654141 90 nop
63654142 90 nop
63654143 90 nop Hackers/Crackers... notice anything strange here?
63654144 90 nop
63654145 90 nop
63654146 ff2598105863 jmp dword ptr [mshtml+0x1098 ( 63581098 )]
6365414c 90 nop
6365414d 90 nop How about here?
6365414e 90 nop

[/SIZE]*----> Stack Back Trace <----*
ChildEBP RetAddr Args to Child

WARNING: Following frames may be wrong...

0534fadc 6365c1d4 008b52f0 00000001 6361f804 mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0xb9351
0534fb04 63612699 00000001 04a6eb80 6370a84d mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0xc13e9
0534fb20 6361266d 00000000 00000000 0534fb48 mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0x778ae
0534fb30 63614737 04a6eb80 049fe9b0 049fe8c8 mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0x77882
0534fb48 6370b15d 04a6eb80 00000000 049fe8c8 mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0x7994c
0534fb6c 6365c1a7 049fe8c8 77e6be20 041b6150 mshtml!MatchExactGetIDsOfNames+0x33fe5
0534fb80 6365b766 049fe8c8 0534fb98 636143de mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0xc13bc
0534fb8c 636143de 049fe8d8 0534fbbc 6362695b mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0xc097b
0534fb98 6362695b 041b617c 00000000 041b6150 mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0x795f3
0534fbbc 63703a5c 041b6150 04162ab0 04a2b858 mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0x8bb70
0534fbd8 637039a2 04162ab0 00000000 04162ab0 mshtml!MatchExactGetIDsOfNames+0x2c8e4
0534fbf4 63621c43 00000000 00000000 04162ab0 mshtml!MatchExactGetIDsOfNames+0x2c82a
0534fc18 63640da1 04162ab0 0534fc38 63623cb1 mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0x86e58
0534fc24 63623cb1 04162ab0 00000000 049fc5b0 mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0xa5fb6
0534fc38 6365b766 041b6150 0534fc6c 6370cc84 mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0x88ec6
0534fc44 6370cc84 041b6160 00000000 049fc5b0 mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0xc097b
0534fc6c 6370c735 00000000 00000000 00000000 mshtml!DllCanUnloadNow+0x1993
0534fc94 63610923 049fc5b0 04a48220 0534fcb0 mshtml!DllCanUnloadNow+0x1444
0534fca4 00aa6a9d 04a86db0 0534fcc4 00ac7364 mshtml!DllGetClassObject+0x75b38
0534fcb0 00ac7364 04a48220 04a480d4 04a41e5c IEFRAME!Ordinal300+0x5e87
0534fcc4 00ac760a 00000000 0534fce0 00ac5577 IEFRAME!Ordinal101+0x6400
0534fcd0 00ac5577 04a41e5c 00000002 0534fcf8 IEFRAME!Ordinal101+0x66a6
0534fce0 00ac7284 04a41e5c 00000002 00000000 IEFRAME!Ordinal101+0x4613
0534fcf8 00abbfd8 04a480d4 01d40612 00000002 IEFRAME!Ordinal101+0x6320
0534fd14 00ab1633 04a41e5c 01d40612 00000002 IEFRAME!SetQueryNetSessionCount+0x69b4
0534fd7c 00ac4a29 04a41e5c 01d40612 00000002 IEFRAME!Ordinal224+0x94a3
0534fda4 7739c3b7 04a41e48 00000002 00000000 IEFRAME!Ordinal101+0x3ac5
0534fdd0 7739c484 00ab150b 01d40612 00000002 USER32!EnableMenuItem+0x4cd4
0534fe48 7739ca68 00000000 00ab150b 01d40612 USER32!EnableMenuItem+0x4da1
0534fea4 7739ce7a 007359c0 00000002 00000000 USER32!TranslateMessageEx+0xd5
0534fecc 7c82ec9e 0534fee4 00000018 0534ffdc USER32!MsgWaitForMultipleObjectsEx+0x126
0534ff1c 00ac50de 00000000 04a41e48 04a41e5c ntdll!KiUserCallbackDispatcher+0x2e
0534ff3c 00ac5032 00000000 00000000 041c7f88 IEFRAME!Ordinal101+0x417a
0534ff50 00ac4f6b 00000000 00000000 00000000 IEFRAME!Ordinal101+0x40ce
0534ffb8 77e6608b 04a41e48 00000000 00000000 IEFRAME!Ordinal101+0x4007
0534ffec 00000000 00aa3a37 041c7f88 00000000 kernel32!GetModuleFileNameA+0xeb

*----> Raw Stack Dump <----* [ADDRESS - HEX - ASCII]
000000000534fad8 f0 52 8b 00 04 fb 34 05 - d4 c1 65 63 f0 52 8b 00 .R....4...ec.R..
000000000534fae8 01 00 00 00 04 f8 61 63 - 00 00 00 00 f8 84 a0 04 ......ac........
000000000534faf8 00 00 00 00 f1 0c 62 63 - 80 eb a6 04 20 fb 34 05 ......bc.... .4.
000000000534fb08 99 26 61 63 01 00 00 00 - 80 eb a6 04 4d a8 70 63 .&ac........M.pc
000000000534fb18 80 eb a6 04 00 00 00 00 - 30 fb 34 05 6d 26 61 63 ........0.4.m&ac
000000000534fb28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 48 fb 34 05 37 47 61 63 ........H.4.7Gac
000000000534fb38 80 eb a6 04 b0 e9 9f 04 - c8 e8 9f 04 00 00 00 00 ................
000000000534fb48 6c fb 34 05 5d b1 70 63 - 80 eb a6 04 00 00 00 00 l.4.].pc........
000000000534fb58 c8 e8 9f 04 00 00 00 00 - 6d 26 61 63 20 be e6 77 ........m&ac ..w
000000000534fb68 00 00 00 00 80 fb 34 05 - a7 c1 65 63 c8 e8 9f 04 ......4...ec....
000000000534fb78 20 be e6 77 50 61 1b 04 - 8c fb 34 05 66 b7 65 63 ..wPa....4.f.ec
000000000534fb88 c8 e8 9f 04 98 fb 34 05 - de 43 61 63 d8 e8 9f 04 ......4..Cac....
000000000534fb98 bc fb 34 05 5b 69 62 63 - 7c 61 1b 04 00 00 00 00 ..4.[ibc|a......
000000000534fba8 50 61 1b 04 00 00 00 00 - 6d 26 61 63 50 61 1b 04 Pa......m&acPa..
000000000534fbb8 c8 e8 9f 04 d8 fb 34 05 - 5c 3a 70 63 50 61 1b 04 ......4.\:pcPa..
000000000534fbc8 b0 2a 16 04 58 b8 a2 04 - 50 61 1b 04 80 eb a6 04 .*..X...Pa......
000000000534fbd8 f4 fb 34 05 a2 39 70 63 - b0 2a 16 04 00 00 00 00 ..4..9pc.*......
000000000534fbe8 b0 2a 16 04 00 00 00 00 - 20 be e6 77 18 fc 34 05 .*...... ..w..4.
000000000534fbf8 43 1c 62 63 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 b0 2a 16 04 C.bc.........*..
000000000534fc08 c0 c9 9f 04 6d 26 61 63 - 01 00 00 00 b0 2a 16 04 ....m&ac.....*..

[PYRoss1]

In XP I right clicked on my screen and went to properties and then to appearance and clicked on the effects tab and changed the effect from fade to scroll ...either way worked for me I no longer get the error when shutting down my PC :)

ot you can uncheck it and disable it I tried that and it worked too

[D-Technic2000]

Downloading software like GetRight, & others are some of the guilty parties who cause this situation in IE.

Remove all related add-ons of the offending software from IE, & un-install whatever software it is from your system. Make sure that IE is totally terminated before you attempt an un-install. Use TaskManager to terminate iexplore.exe if it is still active in memory after you've closed it. Close any other programs that may be useing IE's activex control like instant messengers. When you have completed the un-install, run IE again, & close it to see if it still hangs on its close request.

Still researching this problem.

[Eschatological]

I apologize in advance if anyone has already posted here, or anywhere else for that matter, a solution for this

stupendously aggravating IE7 error or a version similar. Being as how I've searched shallow and deep for a proper

comprehendence and possible end for both Sysfader and a generic 'cannot write to memory' error when opening IE7, I

can only speculate from the enmasse of similar postings, that I am not alone. I can also speculate that either

Microsoft is all too busy with the rolling out of the seemingly debaucherous and holey-coded Vista, or they can't

figure it out either. So once again, it is us fellow geeks, the end user, the uber-obsessive computer recluses, that

must alter and diminish standards set by Microsoft to gain basic and consistent useability.

I tried most of the fixes for these aforementioned IE7 errors, with the exception to Restore points since this is my

fiance's computer, and while so far the Sysfader error has stopped, the other error above hadn't. And then I made

what I believe at this short time span between changing settings, testing and writing this update, is a respectable

discovery, and an applicable fix for IE7 crashing once if not several times on first open, claiming 'cannot write to

memory'. 'Send Microsoft error report'? Why must I continue to send them when they go unanswered?

This is what I came up with. Email me if it works for you, and spread the word as well. Post it on every site

imaginable. It is as follows:

When earlier this morning I began to deeply search for the answer to the Sysfader error, I came across this site, http://beyondteck.blogspot.com/2006/05/how-to-stop-sysfaderexe-error.html

which is the one I mentioned earlier by typing in 'Sysfader error how to fix?'(without the ''s):

http://beyondteck.blogspot.com/2006/05/how-to-stop-sysfaderexe-error.html which also seems to kick back to this

forum board, so I do not know the origin of the posting, but nevertheless... so without taking credit for the

Sysfader fix by my recap, here it is:

1. If you have a Windows key on your keyboard, press that and the Pause button simutaniously and that will bring up

your System settings (better known as Alt+doubleclick on My Computer, or rightclick/properties on My Computer).

2. Go to the Advanced Tab and click Settings on the Performance option.

3. The third tab over says "Data Execution Prevention". What I gathered from the help file (which is like another

language in itself sometimes...or extremely vague and useless) is that while this option monitoring all programs, it

looks for programs using memory incorrectly, which it will associate with the likes of a virus or other malicious

software, and cause it to error out and force it to close. Then it hit me, 'if someone is overloading IE7 with

homepage tabs, and multitasking with other IE windows open outside of the main one, shouldn't that constitute as

poor memory usage, therefore resulting in the DEP to perk up and close down the program? Especially if a users

performance settings are set to 'appearance' and not 'performance'. I believe as well that DEP remembers such

programs repeatedly utilizing poor memory allocation and automatically shuts it down as it opens. This is the only

solution I can apply to my own experience. After about the first week of upgrading to IE7, this began to happen. I

open IE7, my homepages begin to load, I get the error and it crashes. I open it again, and it's fine. But if I shut

it down for any significant amount of time, and decide to reopen, same result. So this is my solution thus:

4. So, going back to the DEP tab, I chose the second option, "Turn on DEP for all programs and services except those

I select" and simply added the IE7 .exe to the list, clicked apply and ok. It asked me to reboot for the changes to

be made, and so I did.

5. Now to test it:

I rebooted as I mentioned, and immediately opened IE7 in excitement expecting dismay, and it did just that...it

opened! Without crashing! So I opened another, and another, and 5 more hoping the memory would funk out and crash

all 7 windows. I didn't get the response I was going for. In fact, only 4 of the windows completely loaded, the

other 3 still churning away; white pages of purgatory.

I closed them all, and opened IE7 again. Loaded. Waited, opened. Loaded. Walked to the store, opened. Loaded!
Now I have but one more test to run, which is again to reboot and attempt it all over again...

(INTERLUDE)

...Rebooted, opened IE7, and it immediately closed itself, but no error.
...repeated the process, and got the same results. It opens, closes itself, but no error message.
This is only a short testing process so far, and like aforementioned, I believe the DEP has a memory of the programs

it monitors, so in theory, it should phase IE7 out the more you use it, but by the immediate test results, that

theory looks bleak. It seems that even the DEP option doesn't seem to do what it should. Maybe there is another

process tied to ie.exe that should also be added to the exception list which I am not aware of. If anyone should

find the combination of settings that correctly disable this atrocious IE7 behaviour, kindly post it and email me as

well. Until then, I will be following my own update advice.

Sorry if this post has been a grand waste of time, but I know that there are more qualified computer geeks out

there, and maybe with this information, a solution is within grasp. One step closer is never a bad thing.


UPDATE:

Simply: Use Firefox v2. That will solve the IE7 problem, and any others that WILL arise.

[dion140981]

so i dont get the sysfader thing till i try to open network places, then i get an explorer error and a drwatson error, any help would be great

[Schloonce]

This worked for me: use an administrator account, and re-install Flash. This doesn't seem to be related to video card drivers or anything like that. Just re-install Flash, that's it.

[NinjaBrian]

We had a user with this EXACT issue while in IE (WinXP Pro OS) and it turns out the fix was this (definitely NOT a virus issue):
An a different pc we went to the same webpage where he was receiving this error and it opened a PDF.
We realized the problem was Adobe. His machine had Adobe Pro 6 installed AND Acrobat Reader 7.0.
Uninstalled Acrobat Reader 7.0, then rebooted.
Upon reboot, opened Adobe, at which point a message appeared asking if we'd like to be able to view PDF's in the browser. Chose yes and closed Adobe.
Visited the webpage again and user no longer receives the Sysfader.exe error.
Problem Fixed.
-Brian

[Arthur Lemos]

I had huge problems with SysFader, Auto Suggest Drop Down, and Connections Tray. All would freeze my computer several times each day so that I could not get to any of my web sites, using Internet Explorer 7. Also, Internet Explorer 7 would many times each day say thay it was shutting down because it had encountered a problem and apologized for the inconvenience. I tried several solutions and nothing worked. Then I noticed that somehow my problems seemed to be connected with my attempts to connect to my e-mail service, NetZero. I also remembered that I had disconnected my Windows Firewall at about the same time that I started having trouble with SysFader, etc. I went to the Control Panel and I reinstated and connected Windows Firewall again. Since them I have had absolutely no trouble with Sys Fader, Auto Suggest Drop Down, Connections Tray, or Internet Explorer 7. Everything is perfectly OK. Such a simple fix and it has worked perfectly and beautifully. I hope this helps others with the same SysFader problem.

[lisa bencaz]

I just got onto my computer and it has slowed down something terribly and my task manager and documents and microsoft word will not respond to the close out command. is this a hacker playing with my computer or is it a program I can delete from my files? I have read several of the posts here and it seem as if nothing is really helping to resolve this problem. why cant people just leave other's belongings alone? :ouch:

[Seer]

Hello lisa bencaz

Is your problem related to sysfader.exe?
If not, please start a new thread with detailed description of your system, security software you're using, recent changes you made, your surfing habits, etc. More details are needed, otherwise it's a guesswork.

From afar, I wouldn't say it's a hacker playing with your system, more likely you picked up some malware - a virus. However, these forums don't provide professional assistance in malware cleaning. See this (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=42148) thread, it should help you to take further steps.

Cheers.

[LoneWolf]

Sorry to join this thread late.(Judging from the OP very late)
Just info from Winpatrol on Sysfader.exe ;D

[tankian]

Well, I cant launch msn messenger, and lo and behold, every time i click the icon, a little sysfader appears in my taskmanager, which disappears in a couple seconds