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Paul Wilders
July 16th, 2002, 05:39 PM
One of our afilliates has performed a new anti-trojan test - unfortunately it's German Language only - A translater might come in handy here:

www.rokopsecurity.de/main/article.php?sid=294&mode=thread&order=0 (http://www.rokopsecurity.de/main/article.php?sid=294&mode=thread&order=0)

As ever, I'll leave it up to all to draw conclusions - or not. It's just "another" test.

regards.

paul

controler
July 16th, 2002, 07:11 PM
What do the X's and O's mean?



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Paul Wilders
July 17th, 2002, 02:58 AM
x = passed
o = failed

regards.

paul

Pieter_Arntz
July 17th, 2002, 03:43 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Forum Admin link=board=25;threadid=2425;start=0#16940 date=1026855544]
A translater might come in handy here:
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Anything in particular??

Regards,

Pieter

Checkout
July 17th, 2002, 04:30 AM
It would have been good to have seen BOClean listed. The table shows a good case for multiple, overlapping defences.

Paul Wilders
July 17th, 2002, 04:41 AM
-{ Quote: "It would have been good to have seen BOClean listed." }-

I'm afraid that will not happen, due to some "problems" between PSC/BOClean and the testers. Before you ask: I will not elaborate on that one! ;)

regards.

paul

Checkout
July 17th, 2002, 06:19 AM
Message received and understood. As ever, the users are losers. Shame.

DrSeltsam
July 17th, 2002, 05:01 PM
I can understand why psc doesn't want boclean to be tested ... . But further information perhaps another day ;o).

controler
July 17th, 2002, 05:12 PM
Who is PSC? and wher is Ants 3.0 ?

Prince_Serendip
July 17th, 2002, 05:18 PM
;D And the "winner" is (according to the results above) TDS! 8)

DrSeltsam
July 17th, 2002, 06:30 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: controler link=board=25;threadid=2425;start=0#17039 date=1026940371]
Who is PSC? and wher is Ants 3.0 ?" }-

PSC is the producer of BOClean. Rokop (the tester) got a copy of ANTS 3.0. Don't ask me why he didn't test it :o).

Vampirefo
July 17th, 2002, 07:06 PM
Yes, I like this test, the results are good for TDS-3, and TH which to be honest is what I expected, to bad BOClean, is not tested, it would also do well.

100% opposite of PcFlanks results, as far as where Tauscan placed. I would like to see more tests, like this, where the AT is allowed to use it's full capabilities to detect the Trojan, not just a file scan, but the Trojan is activated.

Also can some tell me what the last tests are? TH looks like it got a no but I don't know what they mean.
Monitor wird gekillt
Hauptprog.wird gekillt

Paul Wilders
July 17th, 2002, 07:59 PM
Hi Vamp,

and welcome back.

Indeed Roman did perform quite a different test than PCFlank has - the one I described as "rubbish". Rokop has performed sortalike test before - and most probably will keep on doing so. As stated before, it's up to everyone to read this particular test as s/he wants to. Fact is indeed, it's a far more reliable test than PCFlank has performed.

As for your question:

monitor wird gekillt = resident running guard will be killed;
haupt.prog wird gekillt = the software itself will be put out of business.

regards,

paul

root
July 17th, 2002, 09:18 PM
Hey looks like PC DoorGuard is coming on strong with a good solid fifth place showing. ;D
Ideally suited for a person such as my Mother. She does not use the internet, uses Juno for email and plays solitaire all day long. He he.
Sorry, couldn't resist. :)

Vampirefo
July 18th, 2002, 06:12 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Forum Admin link=board=25;threadid=2425;start=0#17046 date=1026950348]
Hi Vamp,

and welcome back.

Indeed Roman did perform quite a different test than PCFlank has - the one I described as "rubbish". Rokop has performed sortalike test before - and most probably will keep on doing so. As stated before, it's up to everyone to read this particular test as s/he wants to. Fact is indeed, it's a far more reliable test than PCFlank has performed.

As for your question:

monitor wird gekillt = resident running guard will be killed;
haupt.prog wird gekillt = the software itself will be put out of business.

regards,

paul
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Paul,

Thanks for the welcome, and the translation.

Best Regards,

Vampirefo

Paul Wilders
July 18th, 2002, 06:58 AM
My pleasure, Vampirefo ;)

regards.

paul

MyNethingyman
July 18th, 2002, 07:44 AM
Hi Vamp,
We have been friends for a while now. There is a drive on here at Wilders for 1000 members. I would like to see you back in here before that number reaches 1001.
No pressure guy...it just make sense. :) It would be nice to have something back..that no one ever wants to give up..

Be Well Everyone,
John

Checkout
July 18th, 2002, 02:22 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Vampirefo link=board=25;threadid=2425;start=0#17073 date=1026987143]

Thanks for the welcome, and the translation.
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Big welcome-back wave from me, too. :)

wizard
July 20th, 2002, 09:49 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Andreas Haak link=board=25;threadid=2425;start=0#17043 date=1026945022]
Rokop (the tester) got a copy of ANTS 3.0. Don't ask me why he didn't test it :o).
" }-

It is a little bit unfair to test unfinished products. Release Ants 3.0 and you'll get your review. :)

wizard

controler
July 20th, 2002, 10:05 AM
I AGREE it has been a couple weeks since we were informed
ANTS 3.0 BETA could be released to testers.
What happened?

Over a month ago I heard through the grapevine TDS-4, ANTS 3.0
and a new version of LockDown were comming soon to a theater
near you....
I am now wondering if all are just waiting for the other to unveil their product first... The paranoia is creaping up again........

DrSeltsam
July 21st, 2002, 07:50 AM
3 of 5 developers of ANTS 3.0 are pupils and they have holydays now. Tobias for example is in spain for a few weeks. So just wait a little bit.

At the moment ANTS 3.0 release candidate is stable on windows nt based systems. There are a few problems with the system firewall under windows 9x. The bugs will be fixed as soon all developers are back from them journeys.

At the moment the neural network of ANTS 3 is trained. ANTS 3 uses this neural network to detect new malware.

controler
July 21st, 2002, 02:18 PM
Thanks for the update Andreas

I am sure everybody here will be happy to hear all is going well
and will now wait patiently for ANTS 3.0 to be BETA tested.

Randy_Bell
July 23rd, 2002, 01:59 PM
-{ Quote: " quoting: Vampirefo link=board=25;threadid=2425;start=0#17044 date=1026947168]Yes, I like this test, the results are good for TDS-3, and TH which to be honest is what I expected, to bad BOClean, is not tested, it would also do well. 100% opposite of PcFlanks results, as far as where Tauscan placed. I would like to see more tests, like this, where the AT is allowed to use it's full capabilities to detect the Trojan, not just a file scan, but the Trojan is activated.
" }-
Yes, I'm pleased too, with these results, Vamp!! :) :)