Ubuntu 9.04 released.

[Arup]

http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/

http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/9.04/ (Kubuntu)

[clansman77]

thanks for the update arup.gonna download the 64 bit version now.been using 32 bit for some time now.i am planning to retain the home partition and format the root with ext4.will this cause any problems as i am planning to use the 64 bit version with my 32 bit home partition??

[Arup]

You are welcome clansman77, I don't foresee any such problems, x64 bit Ubuntu has no issues with x32 XP partition on my other PC. You can go ahead and install and enjoy the power of x64 computing which I have been doing since the x64 CPUs from AMD became common .

[cheater87]

When will it be available for updating through Ubuntu???

[steve161]

-{ Quote: "When will it be available for updating through Ubuntu" }-

Should be very soon, probably sometime today. I'm running 8.04, so 9.04 will probably not show in update manager until I update to 8.10. Anyway, I find it quicker and easier to back up my data and do a fresh install. Plus, it's a lot of fun. Something to consider.

[chronomatic]

If you want to download it, use Bittorrent. I am maxing out my connection. If I try any of the mirrors it is a slow crawl.

[Arup]

Yep, torrent is the only way here, there is also apt-p2p which allows you to update your distro via the torrent. By using torrent the Ubuntu servers get full relief and you get way better speed.

[Nick Rhodes]

You can download the iso, mount it and create it as a source repository and then upgrade from there.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu for more info.

[tlu]

-{ Quote: "When will it be available for updating through Ubuntu???" }-

Now. :) But I suggest to wait a bit. The repositories are rather slow ATM.

[Arup]

http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-use-apt-p2p-for-faster-upgrades-from-ubuntu-intrepid-810-to-jaunty-904.html

Best way to upgrade at full speed.

[sukarof]

I upgraded to the RC a week ago or so. It's been stable and I had only one problem (that the installer warned about btw) and it was OnTv that stopped working, but otherwise runs perfectly.

[tlu]

I had intended to upgrade with the Alternate CD but then I decided to install anew by formating my root partition with ext4 while keeping my unchanged home partition with ext3.

And I really have to say: WOW! The performance gain is absolutely remarkable! You really feel the difference - and I'm not talking only about the considerably faster booting but about smoother operating and more responsive applications.

In the meanwhile I have converted ext3 to ext4 for the partition where I have my Virtualbox VMs and - using a Live CD - also for my home partition without any problems. It remains to be seen if that gives an additional performance boost, too. I doubt that, though, as I understand that the new ext4 features only apply to new (or altered) files. So the additional speed should become noticeable only after some time.

To cut a long story short: Go for ext4 if you want more speed.

[cheater87]

I tried updating and it said it failed to update. I'll try later.

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "To cut a long story short: Go for ext4 if you want more speed." }-
Can you opt for ext4 during the install? I'm going to download the final and reinstall everything. I assume you'd have to do manual partitioning and from there you could select ext4 for root and all partitions?

[Arup]

-{ Quote: "Can you opt for ext4 during the install? I'm going to download the final and reinstall everything. I assume you'd have to do manual partitioning and from there you could select ext4 for root and all partitions?" }-


Yes you can but you have to manually select the partition.

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "Yes you can but you have to manually select the partition." }-
Ok, no problem. Thanks Arup. :thumb:

[loli22]

-{ Quote: "i am planning to retain the home partition and format the root with ext4.will this cause any problems" }-

i believe grub doesn't support ext4 yet, you have to create a partition to boot or format /boot as ext3 and / as ext4.

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "i believe grub doesn't support ext4 yet, you have to create a partition to boot or format /boot as ext3 and / as ext4." }-
That's kinda weird.... that's about as bad as all the x64 machines out there without any x64 flash for Win yet.... not quite, but still, if ext4 is here, why hasn't grub been updated to handle it?

[Alphalutra1]

-{ Quote: "That's kinda weird.... that's about as bad as all the x64 machines out there without any x64 flash for Win yet.... not quite, but still, if ext4 is here, why hasn't grub been updated to handle it?" }-
There's two different grubs, the legacy version that they know works completely and is essentially bug free. Almost every distribution uses it. There's a v2 of grub that has all the fancy features and supports a ton more filesystems. Unfortunately, it is not completely stabilized.

To solve this problem, most distributions have patched the legacy version of grub with ext4 support. I would assume ubuntu has done this.

Cheers,

Alphalutra1

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "There's two different grubs, the legacy version that they know works completely and is essentially bug free. Almost every distribution uses it. There's a v2 of grub that has all the fancy features and supports a ton more filesystems. Unfortunately, it is not completely stabilized.

To solve this problem, most distributions have patched the legacy version of grub with ext4 support. I would assume ubuntu has done this.

Cheers,

Alphalutra1" }-
Thanks for the explanation Alpha.... Didn't know all that.

[steve161]

-{ Quote: "To solve this problem, most distributions have patched the legacy version of grub with ext4 support. I would assume ubuntu has done this." }-

Since I dual boot with another linux distro, I hope that is the case. This thread has me wanting to install with ext4.

[Arup]

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904overview

Ext4 filesystem support


Ubuntu 9.04 RC supports the option of installing the new ext4 file system. ext3 will remain the default filesystem for Jaunty, and we will consider ext4 as the default for the next release based on user feedback. There has been extensive discussion about the reliability of applications running on ext4 in the face of sudden system outages. Applications that use the conventional approach of writing data to a temporary file and renaming it to its final location will have their reliability expectations met in Ubuntu 9.04 beta; further discussion is ongoing in the kernel community.

Ext4 support in GRUB was provided by Colin King. If you choose to upgrade your / or /boot filesystem in place from ext2 or ext3 to ext4 (as documented on the ext4 wiki), then you must also use the grub-install command after upgrading to Ubuntu 9.04 RC to reinstall your boot loader. If you do not do this, then the version of GRUB installed in your boot sector will not be able to read the kernel from the ext4 filesystem and your system will fail to boot.

Ext4 support in gparted has been provided by Curtis Gedak.

Rest assured it will work.

[Eice]

Downloaded and installed (64-bit version), and here's two questions which hopefully someone can help me with:

1. Unlike Intrepid, Jaunty doesn't automount USB thumb drives anymore upon bootup. Any way to remedy this?

2. How do I stop the !@#$ing Update Manager from popping up constantly. :ouch:

TIA.

[Arup]

-{ Quote: "Downloaded and installed (64-bit version), and here's two questions which hopefully someone can help me with:

1. Unlike Intrepid, Jaunty doesn't automount USB thumb drives anymore upon bootup. Any way to remedy this?

2. How do I stop the !@#$ing Update Manager from popping up constantly. :ouch:

TIA." }-


sudo apt-get install pysdm

Pop in your usb thumb drive and then go to system>administration>storage device manager and then select your usb drive to be automounted at boot.

I don't get any such update manager pop ups in around eight of the PCs I have installed Jaunty in.

[Eice]

-{ Quote: "sudo apt-get install pysdm

Pop in your usb thumb drive and then go to system>administration>storage device manager and then select your usb drive to be automounted at boot." }-
Was one of the first things I tried. pysdm doesn't even see my USB drive. I have to pull it out and plug it back in for Ubuntu to recognize and mount it. :ouch:

[tlu]

-{ Quote: "http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904overview

Ext4 filesystem support


Ubuntu 9.04 RC supports the option of installing the new ext4 file system. ext3 will remain the default filesystem for Jaunty, and we will consider ext4 as the default for the next release based on user feedback. There has been extensive discussion about the reliability of applications running on ext4 in the face of sudden system outages. Applications that use the conventional approach of writing data to a temporary file and renaming it to its final location will have their reliability expectations met in Ubuntu 9.04 beta; further discussion is ongoing in the kernel community.
" }-

Since the patches by Ted T'so that will be included only in the "official" kernel 2.6.30 are already added in Jaunty I don't consider this as a big problem anymore.

[clansman77]

hi arup,
how is flash working for you??are you using the 64 bit version using the scripts or the one with nsplugin wrapper??i am having trouble with both..

[Arup]

-{ Quote: "hi arup,
how is flash working for you??are you using the 64 bit version using the scripts or the one with nsplugin wrapper??i am having trouble with both.." }-


I use x64 Flash 10 downloaded from Adobe site, the one in repos is x32 which needs nsplugin wrapper. In case you wish to use x64 remove previous Flash x32 and nsplugin.

Download Flashx64, untar it, sudo mv libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

Then do a sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/
sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins

[FluxGFX]

Works like a charm so far.

Cheers,
fluxgfx

[kareldjag]

hi,

Super OS/SuperUbuntu, based on the 9.0.4 version, and especially designed to improve Ubuntu multimedia experience:
http://hacktolive.org/wiki/Super_OS

Can be downloaded here:

http://hacktolive.linuxfreedom.com/
http://superubuntu.linuxfreedom.com/

As i am here, a good colection of Ubuntu wallpapers:
http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/60-most-execellent-ubuntu-wallpapers/

Rgds

[Ocky]

-{ Quote: "I use x64 Flash 10 downloaded from Adobe site, the one in repos is x32 which needs nsplugin wrapper. In case you wish to use x64 remove previous Flash x32 and nsplugin.

Download Flashx64, untar it, sudo mv libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

Then do a sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/
sudo ln -sf /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/plugins" }-
Just to ask why the soft links mentioned above are necessary. Flash seems to
be working fine by just copying the libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.
???

[Arup]

-{ Quote: "Just to ask why the soft links mentioned above are necessary. Flash seems to
be working fine by just copying the libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.
???" }-


The soft links are necessary for other programs needing access to Flash, xulrunner for instance. Also if you install other browsers, the soft links make it easier. For standalone browser use, the copy to /usr/lib/mozila/plugins works fine.

[Ocky]

-{ Quote: "The soft links are necessary for other programs needing access to Flash, xulrunner for instance. Also if you install other browsers, the soft links make it easier. For standalone browser use, the copy to /usr/lib/mozila/plugins works fine." }-
Many thanks - will do.

[Ocky]

Anybody have success playing apple trailers in Opera 9.64 with the
mplayer plug-in (medibuntu) ?
I get nothing unless I view source, grab the url, and then 'paste and go'
eg. http://movies.apple.com/movies/wb/sherlockholmes/sherlockholmes-tlr1_h480.mov (ie. h480 not h.480 as shown in source).
Other sites like http://www.hd-trailers.net/ are OK - but sometimes the
player stops at 99% buffering.
Flash works everywhere except in apple trailers. (Using 64 bit plug-in from
adobe).

[Arup]

Have you tried vlc plugin?

[Ocky]

-{ Quote: "Have you tried vlc plugin?" }-
Yes, you are a star. It works well in Opera. Should I uninstall the
mplayer mozilla plugin ?

[Arup]

-{ Quote: "Yes, you are a star. It works well in Opera. Should I uninstall the
mplayer mozilla plugin ?" }-


Yes if you plan to use Opera, keep the vlc and remove mplayer.