View Full Version : Registry Defragmentation
blueman
April 21st, 2009, 07:42 AM
How do you Refrag/Compact/Compress your Registry?
YeOldeStonecat
April 21st, 2009, 07:49 AM
I don't...I never found it to do anything to help performance. At the most I'll run a registry cleaner like CCleaner on a badly messed up PC, but for healthy PCs...I leave the registry alone. The theoretical .0000003% performance boost you're supposed to get on paper isn't worth the higher risk of the machine running wonky after running some registry program on it.
funkydude
April 21st, 2009, 07:59 AM
NTREGOPT
Dark_Hanzo
April 21st, 2009, 10:31 AM
I don't use any, but I've tried it once while I was trialling TuneUp Utilities which includes registry defrag :)
Warlockz
April 22nd, 2009, 03:08 AM
I use Xp Repair Pro which has registry and system repair and a Registry Defrager in one app, this is the only one that has ever made my machine run like new again!
raven211
April 25th, 2009, 03:55 AM
Auslogics (and the one in iolo System Mechanic...) is/are the only one(s) I've found doing it the right way - that's, scheduling it for next boot. This means you don't have to worry about losing data or something because something is actively doing stuff in your registry when you defragment (in the other software...).
If there's some other prog. doing it the "right way", and is free, please PM me. :)
Page42
April 25th, 2009, 04:10 AM
NTREGOPT "activates the optimized registry" on the next boot ...
raven211
April 25th, 2009, 04:56 AM
-{ Quote: "NTREGOPT "activates the optimized registry" on the next boot ..." }-
... And I've used it, and it caused serious problems, which I believe would be the same by now as well - unless it has been updated. NIS and TF wouldn't work after restart as I "defragmented" before those installations and clicked no on NTREGOPT's prompt. Misplacement of desktop icons also occured.
funkydude
April 25th, 2009, 07:29 AM
-{ Quote: "... And I've used it, and it caused serious problems, which I believe would be the same by now as well - unless it has been updated. NIS and TF wouldn't work after restart as I "defragmented" before those installations and clicked no on NTREGOPT's prompt. Misplacement of desktop icons also occured." }-
It strictly states you HAVE to reboot immediately after running the program. I've never had issues with it. My routine consists of:
Reboot > CCleaner > NTREGOPT > Reboot Safe Mode > Defrag > Reboot
TonyKlein
April 25th, 2009, 08:34 AM
I've used NTregopt for over five years on all my boxes, and, like funkydude, ive never had a single prob with it.
I sometimes also use the Registrar Registry Manager (http://www.resplendence.com/reglite) Registry defrag tool
Page42
April 25th, 2009, 02:05 PM
-{ Quote: "It strictly states you HAVE to reboot immediately after running the program." }-
Thanks for pointing that out... you made me go back and re-check the Readme file. ;) And there are the instructions:
"To optimize your registry, simply run NTREGOPT, click 'OK', and when
the process is complete click 'OK' to reboot the computer. You should
do so immediately because any changes made to the registry after
NTREGOPT has been run are lost after the reboot."
I always have rebooted immediately after optimizing, until last night that is. Last night I messed around and did a few other things before rebooting. Fortunately, there was no harm done.
I too have used ERUNT for at least a few years without any bad experiences.
noone_particular
April 25th, 2009, 08:41 PM
I set up a test system using the most recent 7zip backup image of my Win2K system. Prior to making the backup image, the registry was cleaned of usage tracks by MRU blaster. By using 7zip to restore the image, all files including those that make up the registry are whole.
I ran REGOPT on this system to see if it could improve on what I already did. The registry size reduction was minimal, well under 1%. There was no noticable change in system performance. As far as I can tell, all REGOPT does is copy the fragments of the registry files, then rewrites them as unfragmented files. If they're not fragmented to start with, there's little or no gain. On PCs with one OS, that can be useful since the OS won't allow you to copy the files while it's running. On PCs with more than one OS, each OS can defrag the others registry files just by copying them, deleting the originals, then pasting them back.
tipstir
April 26th, 2009, 02:28 AM
Some of you like to play with fire don't you. Leave the Registry alone!!! Backup it up before you start playing the game of compress it down to size. Years ago it was the System.ini under Windows 3.1 now it's Registry under all versions of MS OS. Defrag your HDD, and clean out the junk files, just be careful of your temp files.
Some of these optimizers you got to be cautious with otherwise you can screw-up the registry and then well you know insert the OS CD and start installation again.. Unless you have a backup image you can recovery from.
Page42
April 26th, 2009, 02:49 AM
-{ Quote: "Backup it up before you start playing the game of compress it down to size." }-
What ERUNT and NTREGOPT do.
-{ Quote: "Unless you have a backup image you can recovery from." }-
What Acronis TI does. ;)
ruinebabine
April 26th, 2009, 02:59 AM
I am using the truely life saver Registry WorkShop to optimize registries (one among other tasks it will safely do). Essential tool, IMHO.
TOMxEU
April 26th, 2009, 03:45 AM
I use Auslogics RegDefrag (last FREE version) and I am quite surprised, that it is no longer freeware, time to change.
As for performance, it helps as well as defragmenting HDD, along with proper registry cleaning it helps even more.
Firebytes
April 26th, 2009, 02:56 PM
I have used ERUNT/NTREGOPT for a long, long time and have never had the slightest problem from doing so. I do always reboot immediately after using NTREGOPT though so that may be why.
noone_particular
April 26th, 2009, 11:56 PM
-{ Quote: "Some of you like to play with fire don't you. Leave the Registry alone!!! " }-In order to really understand Windows, one has to understand and be able to work with the registry. Knowing where and how to tweak the registry is central to making Windows perform at its peak while making it look and behave the way you want it. Many of the settings that affect the security of your PC are there.
-{ Quote: "Unless you have a backup image you can recovery from." }-
That's the first thing you should do whether you're working on the registry or using the PC normally. Not having backups is playing with fire. On my 98 system, protecting the registry was as simple as using a few batch files (http://web.archive.org/web/20050207051218/http://dogkennels.net/testrun/testrun.htm). On dual and multi-boot PCs, the same methods can be used to protect and defragment an NT systems registry. All the NT registry files can be copied, deleted, etc with batch files that are run from the other operating system.
raven211
April 27th, 2009, 02:00 PM
-{ Quote: "It strictly states you HAVE to reboot immediately after running the program. I've never had issues with it. My routine consists of:
Reboot > CCleaner > NTREGOPT > Reboot Safe Mode > Defrag > Reboot" }-
What happens if something is actively creating or modifying things in the registry when the defragmention occurs? I dunno... maybe when downloading through Steam? ???
tipstir
April 27th, 2009, 03:00 PM
Yes I know on XP manages the system, but cleaning out the registry once in a while is okay. But these programs will have to do either daily or weekly. I just can't see defrag the registry going to help or compact it down. And to much cleaning the darn thing going to make it work poorly or cause some problem.
majoMo
June 22nd, 2009, 06:35 PM
Released the newest EUSING tool:
. Eusing Registry Defrag 1.0 (http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_defrag/registry_defrag.htm)
I tried it and seems good - like their trusty Eusing Registry Cleaner (http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm).
Reliable Registry Defrag too:
- NTRegOpt (http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/) - of course :thumb: Using it since some years ago.
- Free Registry Defrag 2.40 (http://www.registry-clean.net/free-registry-defrag.htm)
ALL freeware... ;D
TOMxEU
June 23rd, 2009, 05:04 AM
Thanks for the tip, it looks nice, unfortunately it does not work on Windows 7, removes half registry like most others, strange mistake though. ::)
majoMo
June 23rd, 2009, 02:18 PM
-{ Quote: "unfortunately it does not work on Windows 7, removes half registry like most others, strange mistake though. ::)" }-
Useful info, thanks.
Do you know if there is internal changes in Windows 7 Registry'main structure, comparing with olders Windows OS? If so the current registry cleaners don't do a good work also. Did you tried NTRegOpt either?
It seems that isn't good idea to use registry cleaners/defrag in Wind. 7, if they don't support it yet: BSOD on registry defrag (http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/13981-bsod-registry-defrag.html#post139681).
TOMxEU
June 24th, 2009, 03:54 AM
Free Registry Defrag (http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Registry-Tweak/Free-Registry-Defrag.shtml) works in W7, but not entirely. It does not fix missing shortcut icons, like in Vista. Nevermind, I moved back to Vista, I will wait for W8. :)
bigc73542
June 29th, 2009, 08:07 PM
I don't mess around with the registry any more than is absolutely necessary, and defraging it is not necessary.
bigc
Meriadoc
June 29th, 2009, 08:33 PM
Registry Workshop user (TorchSoft - Malware Defender) but in the past I've tried PageDefrag from Sysinternals for placement on the hard drive and NTREGOPT to optimize the contents.
Rules
July 15th, 2009, 04:25 PM
Win ASO 4.2
papillonn
November 13th, 2009, 12:44 PM
I don't understand why some softwares which have huge download counts don't include a registry defrag tool in them? Is it so hard? For instance : CCleaner, piriform even created hdd defragment application but there is not any registry defragment application in their roadmap. Why?
*Because they don't believe a registry defragment.
*They want to give all in one.
*They havent got talented software developers.
mercurie
November 13th, 2009, 08:57 PM
I use an old System Suite Reg Defrag on an old XP system but nothing on the Family XP or my Vista machines I don't notice any benefit by using the System Suite one, but I have never had a Registry issue at all. I like many don't mess with it manually.
subhrobhandari
November 15th, 2009, 11:38 PM
Auslogics RegDefrag (PAID) . I never had any problems with it, but WINASO nearly crashed my computer when it was replacing the files.
Noob
November 22nd, 2009, 12:00 AM
Never tried one, but after reading this, i just tried NTREGOPT :D
Still have to see if theres a difference
TOMxEU
December 31st, 2009, 02:39 AM
I use Quicksys RegDefrag free, it also has a portable version.
SirPeterPan
December 31st, 2009, 03:18 AM
Registry Compaction/Compression/Defragmentation was the main reason for my purchase of PC Tools Registry Mechanic. I always use it for this task.
nikanthpromod
December 31st, 2009, 03:36 AM
Tuneup utilities 2009 :TuneUp Registry Defrag:)
Get
December 31st, 2009, 10:08 AM
NTRegopt. I don't use it frequently. Never had any issues whatsoever.
Mr.PC
June 20th, 2010, 05:26 AM
jv16 PowerTools
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