A neat little batch file for shutting down/restarting XP with no Application popup

[DarrenDavisLeeSome]

Just another tiny little work-a-round to keep from getting the Application popup for XP users till ESET gets around to fixing it (wouldn't attempt on pre-XP OS's, might damage Registry), could give it a shot on Vista...might work:

Make a batch file. Use Command prompt>fsutil file createnew C:\Shutdown.bat 5000 (5000 = size in bytes, but not all too critical)>Enter.

Edit .bat file to read:

taskkill /F /IM egui.exe
shutdown -s -t 04

(-t 04 = timeout in seconds till shutdown, make it whatever you like).

AND/OR

Use Command prompt>fsutil file createnew C:\Restart.bat 5000>Enter.

Edit to read:

taskkill /F /IM egui.exe
shutdown -r -t 04

(-r = reboot)

Put one and/or both .bat files into your Start Menu>Programs folder.

The rest is elementary, my dear Watson ;D

It really does work if you'be been using the Interface and want to reboot/shutdown. No popup.

[bodgy]

Or you could type EDIT and type and save the above as a bat file,

OR

attach the bat file for others to just copy and paste.


Colin

[DarrenDavisLeeSome]

I didn't want to have all the fun :D

[JohnPlayer]

Just how many people are getting these pop ups in XP???? I've not had one.

[ASpace]

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Just ... him... *puppy* I suppose

[JasSolo]

-{ Quote: "Just ... him... *puppy* I suppose" }-

Good answer, hell i don't even know what pop-ups he's talking about ;D


Cheers

[Jager]

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It's not just him, you should do your homework before you assume... I got them as well from both ESS 4 Beta and ESS 4. Other people have posted in the ESS forum that they have this probelm, and many more in the NOD32 forum. http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=235326

[DarrenDavisLeeSome]

Most of the time it's so quick that almost not noticeable (seen) but is mostly "heard". I've got my volume slider at the lowest setting and I can hear it. However, I do not have my Sounds and Audio devices>Sounds>Program events:>Windows on the default "Windows Critical Stop". I have it on "WindowsXP Battery Critical" which is 2 louder "Boom Booms" compared to the 1 softer "boom" of the default "Critical Stop" .

Good way to see if you're actually getting it is to go to Event/System logs and look for "Application popup".

[DarrenDavisLeeSome]

Kinda getting off the topic of this thread.

Hope the mods do not lock it up.

Just wanted to show the people who are getting it a little work-a-round side step.

No need for the people NOT getting it to come in here...

For all I know those people who are NOT getting the popup have their Windows Error Reporting fully disabled.

For all I know, those who claim they are not getting it are really getting it but they're just yankin my chain cuz they think I'm a kook :wacko: and they feel like giving me a hard time.::)

Oh well...;D

[JohnPlayer]

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No need for the people NOT getting it to come in here...

For all I know those people who are NOT getting the popup have their Windows Error Reporting fully disabled.

For all I know, those who claim they are not getting it are really getting it but they're just yankin my chain cuz they think I'm a kook :wacko: and they feel like giving me a hard time.::)

Oh well...;D" }-

People can look at any post they want to.:isay: I have got error reporting enabled so it's not that.:( No need to yank your chain 'cos you're doing a pretty good job of it yourself.:-X

[DarrenDavisLeeSome]

Does your doggie bite?

[JohnPlayer]

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No,it licks you to death ;)

[DarrenDavisLeeSome]

What a nice doggie ;D

Anyways, JohnPlayer, uh...I'm assuming you're running XP Pro SP3...right??

OEM or Retail?

Your system: is it HomeGrown, Custom built, or off-the-shelf?
Motherboard: Intel Chipset? VIA, Nvidia? On-board LAN?
Processor: Intel or AMD?

Assuming you installed XP yourself, did you use NTFS or FAT32 for the installation?

Do you let Windows/Automatic Updates install all the Windows Updates or do you download/extract/install them yourself?

[JohnPlayer]

-{ Quote: "What a nice doggie ;D " }-
It sure is ;) Right I've got a custom build with an Asus P5B mobo,Intel Dual Core 2.66,NVidia graphics (1Gig),Marvell Yukon Ethernet Controller,4 Gig ram, along with 3x500 Gig hard drives. I'm running XP Pro. SP3 Retail with updates turned off on NTFS. I just go onto Windows Update every month to top up. Edit: I'm using IE8 never had IE7 on this install.

[DarrenDavisLeeSome]

Hmmm...

Motherboard is in my Sig. Intel Chipset. Memory and HDD config in my Sig too.

I've got an Intel Wolfdale E8600 3.3Ghtz.

Tried IE8...they can keep it. Reminded me too much of Vista. Furthermore I hated it.

I download/extract/install ALL the Windows patches. I do use Windows Updates via the Device Manager to update a few of my device drivers.

I've got OEM XP Pro. No red carpet treatment from Microsoft for me :-\

I have used FAT32 for all but maybe 3 or 4 months with XP since it was first released. Hated the way my system ran with NTFS. Very unstable and a handful of my apps ran really crappy. Some of my device drivers didn't like it either. Also had some problems after installing a few of XP's patches. When I decided to go back to FAT32 my system ran 10x better so I stuck with it.

The difference in our filing systems is probably a key.

Dunno...maybe someday I'll try installing XP with NTFS and see if I still get the popup. Even if I convert to NTFS on my present OS, I'll still get the popup.

[DarrenDavisLeeSome]

Okay.

I am using my tennant's computer right now. Some piece of junk that he (my tennant) paid $200 total for which also includes some piece of junk Dell CRT Monitor. Some piece of junk Dell Mouse, some piece of junk Dell keyboard. But, my tennant likes it. Works good enough for him. Just a toy for him. He's uh...mentally challenged...so I have to help him alot with his computer stuff.

Running XP Pro SP3 OEM (Student or Academic version...or something like that), fully updated.

Had to upgrade the memory to 1GB. Had only 512Kb when he bought it...boy was it SLOW. I hated working on it.


So, I uninstalled ESS 3.0.672 then installed ESS 4.0.417. Everything went well. Used the Toolbar Icon to update it. Updated fine, no problems. No problems with the network/internet connection. Surfed a little here, little there. No sweat.

Then I rebooted/shutdown.

And....

Got the Application popup.

So, that makes a total of 4 different machines running XP Pro SP3 that have gotten the Application popup after I installed ESS 4.0 then rebooted/shutdown after using the Interface. Heck, my tennant's machine is still slow enough that sometimes when I reboot/shutdown I can actually see it, plain as day, and read it too.

[patch]

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Same happens on my multiple computers.
Hadn't bothered to comment only because their are larger problems with ESS eg
- Firebird blocking
- False DNS attacks -> internet blocking
- Mediocre firewall protection
- Firewall set up labour intensive (unless use automatic with Microsoft equivalent functionality).
- ESET assuming production users actually want to beta test there software

[JohnPlayer]

@DarrenDavisLeeSome just a silly thought here. It wouldn't be anything to do with your ISP would it?

[DarrenDavisLeeSome]

Uh...my ISP?

Are you asking me if the Application popup that I'm getting (and probably thousands of others are getting) is caused by my ISP?

You're...uh...well......joking....right?

Hmmmm.


That's a real brain-teaser.

I mean, I can be totally disconnected from the network/internet, use the Interface to maybe run a short little 5 second custom scan, reboot/shutdown and get the Application popup.....on all 4 machines....so....um...that...*sigh*...pretty well takes my ISP out of the picture.

Oh..c'mon, John. Are you serious?

[JohnPlayer]

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Oh..c'mon, John. Are you serious?" }-
It was only a thought. You're in the US I'm in the UK.

Have you tried:
Open REGEDIT and navigate to 'HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\'
Highlight the 'WaitToKillAppTimeout' value.
Set it to '1000' (the default should be 20000).
Now highlight the 'HungAppTimeout' value
Set it to '1000' also.

Open REGEDIT and navigate to 'HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT\Control Panel\Desktop'
Highlight the 'WaitToKillAppTimeout' value.
Set it to '1000' (the default should be 20000).
Now highlight the 'HungAppTimeout' value.
Set it to '1000' also.

Open REGEDIT and navigate to 'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\'

Highlight the value 'WaitToKillServiceTimeout'

Change this value to '1000.'

Open REGEDIT and navigate to 'HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop'

Highlight the value 'AutoEndTasks.'

Change the value to '1'

[DarrenDavisLeeSome]

Hello from the other side of the planet :thumb: ;D

Actually, your question was worth some thought.

Tried the Registry fixes. Rebooted twice. Came back and ran a custom scan. Rebooted and got the popup.

I'm wondering if there is a difference between your English version and the American English version...

Wondering if there could be something amiss with my downloaded install package. I must have downloaded it at least 4 different times. I'm assuming that I am downloading from the ESET servers in Europe. It does take quite awhile to download. You'd think that ESET would have a server in the U.S. by now.

[JohnPlayer]

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Very strange. Normally doing that to the registry stops everything.???

[DarrenDavisLeeSome]

I'll go double check....

[DarrenDavisLeeSome]

Okay. I did set up all the Registry keys that as you suggested.

I then took your suggestions a bit farther: I changed ALL of the corresponding "WaitToKillTimeout" and "HungAppTimeout" values using Find.
Rebooted, came back, looked for updates, ran a couple of quick custom scan, rebooted, and got the popup.

Hey, John, did you catch the editions that I made?:

-{ Quote: "I'm wondering if there is a difference between your English version and the American English version...

Wondering if there could be something amiss with my downloaded install package. I must have downloaded it at least 4 different times. I'm assuming that I am downloading from the ESET servers in Europe. It does take quite awhile to download. You'd think that ESET would have a server in the U.S. by now." }-

[JohnPlayer]

Eset has got a server in the US: BetterAntivirus.com. It's where I bought mine. Sorry to hear that changing the registry hasn't helped at all.

[DarrenDavisLeeSome]

I went to betterantivirus.com. They don't have a download link for ESS 4.0, just ESS 3.0.621. I attempted to download the ESS 4.0 Trial version from their website. They must have redirected it to the the ESET server in Europe. A 35Mb file wouldn't take that long to download from a U.S. server.

[JohnPlayer]

Could be. I bought a renewal for $75.99 and downloaded it there. It looks like it might be re-directing to: http://download.eset.com/download/win/ess/ess_nt32_enu.msi

[DarrenDavisLeeSome]

I went ahead and downloaded the Trial version using my License Username and Password.

I didn't bother uninstalling v4.0.314. Just installed with the new Trial version of 4.0.417 right over the top of it.

Went pretty seamlessly. Just had to reboot mostly. Did the updating. Rebooted....still got the popup.

So,....

I'm gonna be busy watching an NBA Playoff game. My Hometown Los Angeles Lakers up against the Utah Jazz.

[JohnPlayer]

Might be best to uninstall and have a clean up,then install 4.0.417 fresh. Good luck.;)

[DarrenDavisLeeSome]

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Without a doubt, normally. I'm not really all that concerned with it right now. I've got some work I gotta get started on soon so I don't plan on keeping my current OS up and running much longer. I can have a whole new OS up and running in less than 10 minutes if I wanted to.

I've got something even better than doing the uninstall/reinstall bit; burned on a DVD I have a Ghost Image without any AV/Security applications on it at all, just a bareboned XP SP3 with all the updates, maybe 2~3 minor knick-knack applications and tweaks on it.

Playing the "waiting game" right now. Hopefully someday ESET will manage to include a little fix for the Application popup issue amongst all the other MAJOR fixes. Till then I can only wait before I start rebuilding my Ghost Image "library" again.