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psi2003
April 16th, 2009, 06:22 PM
Why ESS 4 isn't integrate in network and sharing center like v3?

And why netbios name, lan mac adress, etc is recheable?

??? ??? ???

Please Stem explain this...

Stem
April 16th, 2009, 06:34 PM
-{ Quote: "Why ESS 4 isn't integrate in network and sharing center like v3?" }-I did not look at V3, and have not installed ESS onto Vista, so cannot answer.

-{ Quote: "And why netbios name, lan mac adress, etc is recheable?" }-Can you please give more details/ explain further?

- Stem

psi2003
April 16th, 2009, 08:31 PM
Stem

I take some screenshots to explain the differences that I see between V3 and V4.

Here is Network and Sharing Center with ESS V3:
207963

Here is Network and Sharing Center with ESS V4:
207964

And here is firewall test with ESS V4:
207965


What do you thing about this? :-\

Stem
April 16th, 2009, 09:47 PM
Hi,

I am not seeing this on my XP setup.

It is very late here (2-45am), so I will have a look tomorrow to see what info the scan is attempting to take from Vista.

Dont panic. As you are not exposed directly then there is not a major problem.


- Stem

psi2003
April 17th, 2009, 06:16 AM
One more observation!

Win Vista without SP1 -> Firewall works fine with Network and Sharing Center and pass in that firewall test.

So is something relating with SP1 and Windows Filtering Platform (WFP).

It's bug or design? :-\

Stem
April 17th, 2009, 04:07 PM
Hi,

I have set up ESSv4 on Vista (all updates). I current have netbios etc enabled and ESS is set to automatic. I am not seeing this info leak.

What mode is the firewall currently set to?
Have you added/ disabled any rules?


- Stem

psi2003
April 17th, 2009, 04:17 PM
Hi Stem

Firewall mode is set to Automatic (out of the box). No rules.

Do you have set up in vista with or without SP1?

Stem
April 17th, 2009, 04:57 PM
Hi,

I un-installed ESSv4, then went to check if I had missed any updates, and there are some outstanding, but after waiting the updates wont download. Looks like ESSv4 uninstaller as screwed my set up.

Edit:
The update center is now locking up when attempting updates. So I will have to revert to original image, then update to SP1 again. I will not be re-installing ESS onto this Vista setup.


- Stem

Temp Member
April 17th, 2009, 05:29 PM
You need the Windows Firewall running to change them to the likes of OFF (I have no network and do not share and it states this if you read part with Yellow warning).

Running ESET you cannot do this, unsure if same for all other AV's/FW's.

Stem
April 17th, 2009, 05:43 PM
-{ Quote: "You need the Windows Firewall running to change them to the likes of OFF" }-
If you refer to post 3 on thread. psi2003 was putting forward that ESSv3 installation was integrated with the "sharing and discovery" and the control of this could be made through ESS setting, but with ESSv4 on Vista sp1 this integration is missing.

- Stem

psi2003
April 17th, 2009, 06:12 PM
-{ Quote: "If you refer to post 3 on thread. psi2003 was putting forward that ESSv3 installation was integrated with the "sharing and discovery" and the control of this could be made through ESS setting, but with ESSv4 on Vista sp1 this integration is missing.

- Stem" }-
YES! That is correct :) The integration of ESSv4 ON VISTA SP1 is missing.

I install v4 on vista without sp1 and integration is fine.

What can we do to correct this? ???

Stem
April 17th, 2009, 06:37 PM
-{ Quote: "What can we do to correct this? ???" }-

We cannot do anything, we will need to wait for Eset to look at this.


- Stem

psi2003
April 20th, 2009, 03:26 PM
This issue remains in build 424 :-\

Temp Member
April 20th, 2009, 05:03 PM
-{ Quote: "If you refer to post 3 on thread. psi2003 was putting forward that ESSv3 installation was integrated with the "sharing and discovery" and the control of this could be made through ESS setting, but with ESSv4 on Vista sp1 this integration is missing.

- Stem" }-


Yes the 2 Screens look familiar but I did use v3 until the launch of this buggy v4.

I have never been able to Totally Turn Off Sharing or/and Discovery with ESET, only on Windows Firewall (what I ideally need/want).

Same in Plain Vista or SP1 or SP2 RC.

psi2003
June 5th, 2009, 11:50 PM
Network and Sharing Center with ESS V3:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=207963&d=1239928129

Network and Sharing Center with ESS V4:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=207964&d=1239928129

Firewall test with ESS V4:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=207965&d=1239928129

This issue still remain in Vista X64 SP2 :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

ESET dev are sleeping? :wacko:

flyrfan111
June 6th, 2009, 07:41 PM
Not seeing this in my Vista SP2 systems, do you have some services disabled? There are network services that need to be enabled for these settings to work properly.

funkydude
June 6th, 2009, 09:00 PM
Um, someone completely erased my post without notifying me? Wtf?

psi2003
June 7th, 2009, 09:35 AM
-{ Quote: "Not seeing this in my Vista SP2 systems, do you have some services disabled? There are network services that need to be enabled for these settings to work properly." }-
Hi flyrfan111

What network services need to be enabled for these settings work properly?

flyrfan111
June 7th, 2009, 10:54 AM
I am at work now, I will try and look it up when I get home. I stumbled on the Custom settings issue a week or so ago. I clicked on help in the Network settings tab and it took me to an MS site explaining why the custom settings shows up. I believe you need SSDP and UPnP enabled for it to show off or on, if one of those or both are disabled it switches to Custom, don't qoute me on the services though, I am not positive it's those two.

flyrfan111
June 7th, 2009, 05:57 PM
Found it;

Network discovery requires that the dnscache, fdrespub, ssdpsrv, and upnphost services (mshelp://windows/?id=2d342bd8-c7fb-4dc1-96dd-b75979627148#gtmt_service_def) are started, that the Windows Firewall exception for network discovery is enabled, and that other firewalls are not interfering with network discovery. If some but not all of these are true, the network discovery state will be shown as Custom.

psi2003
June 8th, 2009, 04:23 PM
Hi flyrfan111,

Thanks for your info. But I still get this (test in www.grc.com):

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=207965&d=1239928129

:wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: