View Full Version : New MBR rootkit VS Returnil
betaman
April 14th, 2009, 06:53 AM
Link
http://www.prevx.com/blog/120/MBR-rootkit-changes-itself-and-strikes-again.html
Does Returnil protect from this new variant of MBR rootkit?
I know Returnil protect the master boot sector, but this rootkit use new techniques, and the blogger says:
-{ Quote: "its creators decided to develop a new version of it, virtually able to bypass almost all security products" }-
Can someone test this rootkit?
Coldmoon
April 14th, 2009, 11:32 AM
Hi betaman,
Without having a sample to test against I would not be able to difinitively say yes or no. In theory however, RVS should protect against this type of attack. We do encourage testing and will be following this discussion closely.
Be sure to make your reports as detailed as possible sans content mentioned in the warning below:
Side note for participants in the discussion: Do not post links to the content as that information will be removed per the site TOS. If your testing reveals an issue, use the information in the malware sample submission Sticky (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=232901) to send us the binary or links where our research team can obtain the content.
Thanks
Mike
developers
April 14th, 2009, 01:34 PM
I have tested this new mbr rootkit, and it's able to bypass Returnil. After the restart, system is infected by hidden code.
I will send this sample to Returnil support tech, but please fix this issue and also the file protection issue, for the security of the user.
Coldmoon
April 14th, 2009, 01:58 PM
Thanks developers - Please PM me the details of the submission (subject, name or nickname) so I can alert the team to it ASAP.
Edit: We have recieved the sample and the team has been alerted.
Mike
caspian
May 13th, 2009, 12:58 PM
Have you been able to validate this yet?
developers
May 30th, 2009, 05:04 PM
Returnil Virtual System 2009 beta 3 is immune to new MBR rootkit :thumb:
SIR****TMG
May 31st, 2009, 06:40 PM
can we get a link to it now? Beta is ok with me. I did fill out the beta tester form also.
SystemJunkie
June 1st, 2009, 05:19 AM
-{ Quote: "Returnil Virtual System 2009 beta 3 is immune to new MBR rootkit
" }-Interesting.
Coldmoon
June 1st, 2009, 10:23 AM
-{ Quote: "can we get a link to it now? Beta is ok with me. I did fill out the beta tester form also." }-
Hi,
The list should be getting an e-mail later tonight (US EDT) or tomorrow announcing availability of Beta 4.
Mike
SIR****TMG
June 1st, 2009, 05:18 PM
Sweet thank you
StevieO
June 3rd, 2009, 02:59 PM
" Returnil Virtual System 2009 beta 3 is immune to new MBR rootkit "
If this 100% correct then, as far as i'm aware it's the only App of ANY kind on the planet that can ! This includes all other similar products, and VM type Apps, and various flavours of System Restorers etc etc.
So based on what was stated, full marks to all involved @ Returnil.
Looking forward to some independent tests to confirm above.
aigle
June 3rd, 2009, 05:58 PM
StevieO, you mean than this new MBR rootkit can bypass VMware etc as well?
StevieO
June 3rd, 2009, 06:04 PM
aigle
Proviso " as far as i'm aware "
I'm sure i read about it in a tech blog somewhere. If i can remember where and locate it, then i'll post it.
StevieO
June 3rd, 2009, 06:17 PM
Well here's something i found to be going on with, posted by one of our members Elite.
http://forum.sysinternals.com/printer_friendly_posts.asp?TID=13179 " I just ran it on a VM to test something quickly, and to my surprise, upon rebooting, it appears the rootkit has auto-updated itself to the latest version. "
aigle
June 3rd, 2009, 07:01 PM
-{ Quote: "aigle
Proviso " as far as i'm aware "
I'm sure i read about it in a tech blog somewhere. If i can remember where and locate it, then i'll post it." }-
I don,t think that it,s true.
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