Avira AntiVir 9 released!

[strangequark]

-{ Quote: "
Btw, denying Read is where you went wrong in v9. It has to be allowed to read the file attributes. Otherwise it downloads a fresh copy of avnotify.exe every update. Not a good thing. :)" }-

yeah, I realized that after the second "you must reboot".

Now if I could only get a HIPS to stop my wife nagging I'd be a happy man ;D ................ and yes your right she doesn't visit Wilders ............. I think .............. I hope :lurking:

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "yeah, I realized that after the second "you must reboot".

Now if I could only get a HIPS to stop my wife nagging I'd be a happy man ;D ................ and yes your right she doesn't visit Wilders ............. I think .............. I hope :lurking:" }-
You should get her to start posting here at Wilders then.... It might be a good outlet for her. ;D

[apm]

-{ Quote: "can one tell me where in the avira forums does it say that you cannot run another antispyware program like superantispyware pro along side avira? in residence?

thanks
robin" }-
Running Avira free ver together with Dr.Web 5.0 with Spiderguard, no slowdown, Avira compatibility is really good.:thumb:

[apm]

-{ Quote: "i mean if the free version download updates (full pattern or incremental update)?

i mean when i update the free version ,does avira download every time the whole virus database or only incremantal files ?

thanks" }-
Avira free ver do both incremantal and full update too as abserved on my system, of course slower than paid ver and auto update once daily.

[rdsu]

This version we can't be use it with the Windows Scheduler, like we can with v8.0?

http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&postID=192838#post192838
http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&postID=97645#post97645

[jrmhng]

Looks like the scanner is still called 'Luke Filewalker'. No biggie but I thought they were going to change this ages ago. Its a bit immature.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "Looks like the scanner is still called 'Luke Filewalker'. No biggie but I thought they were going to change this ages ago. Its a bit immature." }-

i suppose u can say its a bit immature, but why does everything have to be so serious? i find it refreshing to see the guys at Avira have at least some sense of humor ;D

[Kerodo]

Yeah, who cares what it's called... so long as it does it's job. ;)

[strangequark]

-{ Quote: "why does everything have to be so serious? i find it refreshing to see the guys at Avira have at least some sense of humor ;D" }-

so do I,
now if only the acoustic alert could be in a Darth Vader voice instead of the R2D2 beeps I'd almost buy the premium version ;D

[PiCo]

-{ Quote: "This version we can't be use it with the Windows Scheduler, like we can with v8.0?

http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&postID=192838#post192838
http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&postID=97645#post97645" }-Seems so..

There is not preupd.exe file in version 9.

[rdsu]

-{ Quote: "Seems so..

There is not preupd.exe file in version 9." }-
That is bad... :'(

[aarste]

Has anyone got an Access Denied when changing the Avira AntiVir Guard service from Automatic to Manual? I did this in v8 to stop the real-time scanner from starting up but no longer works in v9 as access to the service is restricted.

Also should avnotify.exe be running? It's using up 24mb of memory and 18mb of VM but haven't got a nag screen yet since installing v9 last night.

[The_Duality]

-{ Quote: "so do I,
now if only the acoustic alert could be in a Darth Vader voice instead of the R2D2 beeps I'd almost buy the premium version ;D" }-

You can change it ;D

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "Has anyone got an Access Denied when changing the Avira AntiVir Guard service from Automatic to Manual? I did this in v8 to stop the real-time scanner from starting up but no longer works in v9 as access to the service is restricted.
" }-
I think I heard someone say you gotta boot into safe mode to change the service. I have not tried it myself though.....

[bman412]

-{ Quote: "Has anyone got an Access Denied when changing the Avira AntiVir Guard service from Automatic to Manual? I did this in v8 to stop the real-time scanner from starting up but no longer works in v9 as access to the service is restricted." }-

Have you tried turning off avira's self-protection before setting the services manually?

[aarste]

-{ Quote: "Have you tried turning off avira's self-protection before setting the services manually?" }-

Doesn't work, but then again this is probably a security measure, read up somewhere about the conficker virus disabling services, but it wouldn't be able to touch Avira's. :)

[Carver]

Avira v9 seems to be preventing my desk top icons and taskbar from loading, sometimes I have to restart 3 times before it loads. I push the re set button as I don't have access to my taskbar.

[Thug21]

Avira 9 workin' fine here.

Still waiting for that 7z support, though.

[Carver]

-{ Quote: "Avira 9 workin' fine here.

Still waiting for that 7z support, though." }-
7z works fine on my machine.

[Thug21]

Me too. What I mean is Avira can't scan inside 7z archives yet.

[Stefan Kurtzhals]

7z support is being added very soon.

[Stefan Kurtzhals]

-{ Quote: "
Quote:
Originally Posted by bman412
Have you tried turning off avira's self-protection before setting the services manually?

Doesn't work, but then again this is probably a security measure, read up somewhere about the conficker virus disabling services, but it wouldn't be able to touch Avira's.
Reply With Quote" }-

Hmm, it should be possible to access the service settings when the self-protection is disabled. This might be a bug. However, it does not make sense to set the Guard service to manual loading. If you want to permanently disable the Guard, please use the Avira setup (not the configuration).

[RejZoR]

Is it just me or there is no Self-Protection on Vista x64 ?
Netbook with WinXP does have that option, but on my main system with Vista x64, there is no self-protection option. Haven't tested though, but it seems there is none.

[Leo2005]

-{ Quote: "Is it just me or there is no Self-Protection on Vista x64 ?
Netbook with WinXP does have that option, but on my main system with Vista x64, there is no self-protection option. Haven't tested though, but it seems there is none." }-
yes this iscorrect there is no selfprotection on 64 bit systems

[RejZoR]

Thats kinda stupid. avast! has it even on 64bit systems.

[Pigula]

Hi there everybody. I would like to ask one simple question. After scanning for example the whole computer in the report file I see "Deviating risk categories...........: +APPL,+GAME,+JOKE,+PCK,+SPR,
", whereas I marked all risk categories. Does it mean, that AntiVir does not scan for example for Adware/Spyware or it is not written in the report file? Thanks in advance.

[Leo2005]

no antivir has a standard setting which is used for the scan. everything wich is listed behind this entry in the logfile differs from the deault settings. + means that additionally to the default settings antivir is also searching for these categories. and waht - means you can guess yourself ;)

[Pigula]

Thank you very much, another question. Does Antivir free upgrade (I mean for example from version 8 to 9) automatically through build-in updater or user has to do it on his own by installing the new version manually?

[Arup]

-{ Quote: "Thank you very much, another question. Does Antivir free upgrade (I mean for example from version 8 to 9) automatically through build-in updater or user has to do it on his own by installing the new version manually?" }-


You will get a choice and in case you select, the installer will remove the old one and install version 9 for you.

[Pigula]

I get it, but I would like to know if there is possibility to auto-upgrade to the newer version through the build-in updater, or do I have to download the file manually?

[Arup]

-{ Quote: "I get it, but I would like to know if there is possibility to auto-upgrade to the newer version through the build-in updater, or do I have to download the file manually?" }-


I auto upgraded through the built in upgrader, actually it offered me the new version and I allowed it to do so.

[tonyseeking]

If I install the latest FREE Avira, will it take a lot of resources and affect my online gaming and make Vista run slower?

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "If I install the latest FREE Avira, will it take a lot of resources and affect my online gaming and make Vista run slower?" }-
It shouldn't, but only one way to find out. ;)

[tonyseeking]

-{ Quote: "It shouldn't, but only one way to find out. ;)" }-

I just installed latest Avira and I skipped the section to enter personal details during the installation.

Will that stop Avira updating?

[Arup]

-{ Quote: "If I install the latest FREE Avira, will it take a lot of resources and affect my online gaming and make Vista run slower?" }-

Nope, Avira is among the lightest performers and Free Avira has no webshield either so no online gaming impact if any.

[Securon]

Dear Wilderites! The Proud owner of Avira Security Suite Premium 9. Runs as light as a whisper. Simple Gui,straight forward,stellar protection! What more could one ask for? Cheers...Securon

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "I just installed latest Avira and I skipped the section to enter personal details during the installation.

Will that stop Avira updating?" }-
Nope, you can skip that without any adverse consequences......

[tonyseeking]

-{ Quote: "Nope, Avira is among the lightest performers and Free Avira has no webshield either so no online gaming impact if any." }-

I hope so. I will try that later tonight and give you a report. Later I will be playing BF2142 online.

[tonyseeking]

-{ Quote: "Dear Wilderites! The Proud owner of Avira Security Suite Premium 9. Runs as light as a whisper. Simple Gui,straight forward,stellar protection! What more could one ask for? Cheers...Securon" }-

Heheheheh :argh:

Thank you Dear Wilderite ;)

[blacknight]

As I posted previous in this 3D, Avira 9 free after the installation doesn't update: I try to run the update but nothing happens. I first uninstalled Avira 8, I cleaned my pc, also trying the Avira remotion tool, but the result is the same.

OT: HAPPY EASTER ! :)

[Kees1958]

-{ Quote: "As I posted previous in this 3D, Avira 9 free after the installation doesn't update: I try to run the update but nothing happens. I first uninstalled Avira 8, I cleaned my pc, also trying the Avira remotion tool, but the result is the same.

OT: HAPPY EASTER ! :)

" }-

Try running OSAM, to check for unremoved software.

[blacknight]

-{ Quote: "Try running OSAM, to check for unremoved software." }-

Thanks, surely I'll try it . :)

[blacknight]

OSAM didn't find anything, but Avira 9 again doesn't run the update. Conflict with my CIS - 3.8.477 version - ? I don't believe, I have a friend who runs the same CIS version and Avira 9 without problems.

[raven211]

Bought a license for Premium, only because complete automatic operation wasn't a part of Personal Edition. Can't say I'm disappointed till now, though. ;D

[BJStone]

-{ Quote: "OSAM didn't find anything, but Avira 9 again doesn't run the update. Conflict with my CIS - 3.8.477 version - ? I don't believe, I have a friend who runs the same CIS version and Avira 9 without problems." }-


HUH? Running CIS 3.8.65951.477 with Avira Premium 8 (reverted back from 9 to 8 ): no problems updating. The time I used Premium 9 (that I used 8-10 days) I had no problem either updating.

Could it be a misconfig in CIS?

[blacknight]

-{ Quote: "

Could it be a misconfig in CIS?" }-

It's the first thing I thaught: I tried all with CIS to install Avira 9: disabling Defense + or setting in Training Mode, setting the fw in Training Mode...nothing; and it is not necessary anyway with Avira 8

[rdsu]

Do you know if with this version AntiVir can auto-upgrade its program version, like avast! already do?

[RejZoR]

Yes, AVIRA can fully auto-update itself (sigantures and program) just like avast! does.

[rdsu]

-{ Quote: "Yes, AVIRA can fully auto-update itself (sigantures and program) just like avast! does." }-
But that is only with this version or the previous also have it?

[RejZoR]

It was the same with previous version. AntiVir 6 had this too as far as i can remember, it just wasn't this flexible as it is today.

[rdsu]

-{ Quote: "It was the same with previous version. AntiVir 6 had this too as far as i can remember, it just wasn't this flexible as it is today." }-
I tried to use the program update feature in v8.0 and the results said that everything is optimal... :(

It seems that they have the feature but doesn't work...

[Macstorm]

want to test security suite? pm me

[Leo2005]

-{ Quote: "want to test security suite? pm me" }-
simply install the installationpacket from avira.com there is a 30 day trial in it!!

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "simply install the installationpacket from avira.com there is a 30 day trial in it!!" }-
I was misunderstood sorry, meant i'm offering to anyone interested to try the suite beyond that period.

[metalforlife]

Will the free version detect and remove malware in real-time?

[raven211]

Yes, it always has and probably always will. What it doesn't have is ability to set it to automatic operation, and this can produce a lot of prompts which are complicated as well for the user.

[metalforlife]

Perfect for me.

[raven211]

Okay, good. Just a warning, if you don't check the checkbox of a prompt, it might not do what you tell it to for 4 times. I clicked quarantine everytime and it would prompt me 4 times for ONE freakin' EICAR-test-file. You have been warned...

[tipstir]

I ran this program on a test wireless g laptop. It has detected a program on my USBFlash which is good as I know what it is.. But I told it to denied and remember next time. It has come back to haunt me~ Telling me it has detected the same program again.

That Automatic Notifier which is used to pull in that nag screen when you update the software can be blocked all together with PCT FWP. I am sure other firewalls should be able to do the same.

[MrGSM]

Is there any information about french version, we are April 24...

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "want to test security suite? pm me" }-

I already tested this suite I wasn't impressed.

Firewall blocked the internet
Firewall kept on prompting my network caller ID as I did give it access

I didn't check out the web guard as I could never get on the internet with it. It never could update as it could never connect to your servers. Scanner kept on reporting the same info back that I got with the Free version. FPs (false positive) I like to know what the heck happen to this AV in 2001-2002 it was great to use. The Ad popup you have now in the Free caused one system to crash as I had lock the system so when the update started and the ad GUI Dialog Box with the Okay would be better to use a delay timer code then have the user input to click on okay this make the system wait for the user. But if the user did the same thing I did and lock user account then same would happen.

[Leo2005]

-{ Quote: "Is there any information about french version, we are April 24..." }-
will be released the 28 april if no problems occure.

[Arup]

-{ Quote: "I already tested this suite I wasn't impressed.

Firewall blocked the internet
Firewall kept on prompting my network caller ID as I did give it access

I didn't check out the web guard as I could never get on the internet with it. It never could update as it could never connect to your servers. Scanner kept on reporting the same info back that I got with the Free version. FPs (false positive) I like to know what the heck happen to this AV in 2001-2002 it was great to use. The Ad popup you have now in the Free caused one system to crash as I had lock the system so when the update started and the ad GUI Dialog Box with the Okay would be better to use a delay timer code then have the user input to click on okay this make the system wait for the user. But if the user did the same thing I did and lock user account then same would happen." }-


You probably and most likely have a system which has remnants of your previous installation of other AVs or you are just plain anti Avira for some reason, all the issues you have posted in this thread and other one is absolutely non existant on every PC I have Avira installed in, in fact two of the machines have been running Avira for more than two years. Your whole tirade against Avira in every thread discussing it goes to show you are on some personal mission against Avira, you even discredit established testers who have tested Avira and have given it full marks. The irony of it all is that you don't bring any legit top tier AV like Eset, KAV, Avast etc. into your perspective but all we see is a bottom rung program being declared superior to Avira as per your unscientific subjective tests.

[Macstorm]

Well said Arup.

Avira's terrific abilities certainly causes anxiety in some people ;)

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "Well said Arup.

Avira's terrific abilities certainly causes anxiety in some people ;)" }-
I think it's called Envy Anxiety, a common ailment wherein one wishes they had something as good as Avira but are too stuborn to let go of their own and install it. :)

[Arup]

-{ Quote: "I think it's called Envy Anxiety, a common ailment wherein one wishes they had something as good as Avira but are too stuborn to let go of their own and install it. :)" }-


Quite true and in some cases, its peddling their own wares as well.

[Osaban]

-{ Quote: "I think it's called Envy Anxiety, a common ailment wherein one wishes they had something as good as Avira but are too stuborn to let go of their own and install it. :)" }-
The thing I can't understand is that if you don't like a particular AV, you may actually post your problem once, and leave it to that. I don't particularly fancy two big players, and therefore don't even bother reading their threads, let alone post anything negative. Somehow being among the best, it attracts a lot of criticism from people who feel somewhat diminished from not having it, Envy Anxiety is a pretty good definition of it. Oddly enough this happens most of the time with AVs, not so much with other types of applications.

[Page42]

-{ Quote: "The thing I can't understand is that if you don't like a particular AV, you may actually post your problem once, and leave it to that. I don't particularly fancy two big players, and therefore don't even bother reading their threads, let alone post anything negative. Somehow being among the best, it attracts a lot of criticism from people who feel somewhat diminished from not having it, Envy Anxiety is a pretty good definition of it. Oddly enough this happens most of the time with AVs, not so much with other types of applications." }-
Historian Will Durant said, "To speak ill of others is a dishonest way of praising ourselves." While that may not always be the case, it has given me pause to contemplate sometimes why I go on and on about a particular topic that rankles me... an example would be Symantec. I go through spells where I rant about how crappy their support has been for me in the past, then I chill out and don't feel compelled to post about them again for a long time. :) I'd like to think I am not dishonestly praising myself, but I admit, when I see people taking shots at "the big guy" (whoever that may be at that time), it does cross my mind that they think they are praising themselves by tearing down a popular product. Just a thought. :)

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "You probably and most likely have a system which has remnants of your previous installation of other AVs or you are just plain anti Avira for some reason, all the issues you have posted in this thread and other one is absolutely non existant on every PC I have Avira installed in, in fact two of the machines have been running Avira for more than two years. Your whole tirade against Avira in every thread discussing it goes to show you are on some personal mission against Avira, you even discredit established testers who have tested Avira and have given it full marks. The irony of it all is that you don't bring any legit top tier AV like Eset, KAV, Avast etc. into your perspective but all we see is a bottom rung program being declared superior to Avira as per your unscientific subjective tests." }-

No so all remnants were remove both HDD, registry locations. None are present. I do have backup images of the first, stable and current build. I use for testing. I am just saying this AV is suppose to be the best but it just doesn't catch the rouge, cloak-malware and I can go on and on and then there is the FPS way to many.

Tested so far

PC Tools INS 2009 (current)
Comodo INS Free (current)
PC Tools Spyware Doctor SE with AntiVirus Full Free (current)
Rising Sun PC Doctor Free (current)
Avira Free (current)
Avira Premium + IS (current)
AVG Free (current)
VIPRE Non Free (current)
VIPRE Rescue (free) (current)
PrevX Business (current)
PrevX Home (current)
ThreatFire (current)
RegProt (free) (current)

Out of all of those above none (except AVG Free) was able to catch Win32/Heu/dropper 75411.exe, There was a few more hidden in side the C:\Windows\System32 that nothing could even fine except AVG Free did and ThreatFire found one also in Local Settings\temp folder.

Threats that were setting up as Run as or Run - RegProt was popping up like an advert.. Never fails and it's for free go figure a simple program can do wonders.

Those that work were..

A-Squared Free (found high threat cloaked-malware
AVG Free (found 2 viruses and removed them
VIPRE Rescue 5.x (needs to run in Safe Mode) it found 5 threats in the registry and only removed 2.

Those that crashed badly were
PrevX Home and Business..

You got to understand one thing these programs only work good if they have all the AV/SPY/MW defs otherwise they can't detect the worst ones. Still one of the cloaked or hidden threat was blocking A/V from updating or you couldn't even go to their sites I would get a message saying Firefox was unable to connect to the server.. All had the same issue. Except ThreatFire could update.

Setting ThreatFire to Level 5 and using max setting for custom did find some threats but as much as AVG Free did, even though this couldn't update it did managed to say it found Virus located in System32 folder it was cloaked.

Anyway this wraps up the testing.. I've blown and use wipe IT commercial CD we use at the client on HDD to all zeros and installed fresh copy Win7 on it now.. The other systems will still have XPPro SP3 and the server SP2.

[Arup]

So av-comparatives and other sites are talking crud when they consistently for the last two years find that Avira's detection rates are the highest.

[Thankful]

-{ Quote: "So av-comparatives and other sites are talking crud when they consistently for the last two years find that Avira's detection rates are the highest." }-What? Where is av-comparatives talking crud?

[the Tester]

-{ Quote: "What? Where is av-comparatives talking crud?" }-

I think Arup is being sarcastic with that statement.;)

[Thankful]

-{ Quote: "I think Arup is being sarcastic with that statement.;)" }-
Especially since AV-comparatives awarded Avira AV of the year for 2008.

[Arup]

-{ Quote: "I think Arup is being sarcastic with that statement.;)" }-


Thanks Tester :)

[tipstir]

The threat is worst than years ago.. Anyone can setup a test lab and hire some techs and sit there and run some scripts to trigger Trojans, worms, malware, viruses, spyware, bad tracking cookies an etc.. Comodo has their little apps to run to see how well your protection is that's so cute.

Real time is different. I know most of you won't run into what I see everyday. I tell clients listen this is what you need to do and this is how I going to fix it. Friends and family I do the same thing. If I have to rebuild the system, then protected correctly then you should be set. Those who don't follow the rules will get a boot disc to recovery of a partition image before they got their systems screwed up. They get instructions also as I got tired to saying the same info over and over again.

So if you see the task bar disappear after you boot up, if you see AntiVirus 2009 flashing run stick the disc in press reset and run the recovery disc. All docs and important stuff is on a partition drive along with the backup image. I can't see how anyone would screw up. Anyway this the way to do it.

Also last test had shown that AVG Free was giving FPS and slowing down the system over the network, it was using system resources like crazy as if you were going to scroll over network drives files it would slow down. Once AVG was shutdown the problem was gone. Version 8.5x..

I think the folks over AVG Free has to go back and see what the heck is going on with the free version. Why is it scanning files so slowly and hanging the system. I had scanned 6GB of data on C it took good 1 hr to scan. Again they need to pull out the adverts another waste of CPU and system resources.

Spyware Doctor with AV I need to change some settings and give that another shot as that doesn't run slow. Still to me if the system is a brand new build and you configure the right protection using ThreatFire then you should be okay. This is going free though.

As for Avira they need to rid the advert or limit the features for the free version. Crack down the FPS. AVG Free need to do the same and fix the high CPU spikes. Guys go back to the basic GUI to scan/capture/remove for pest you don't need to use high res frame windows.

[Boost]

I had zero false postives with Version 8 and have zero false postives on version 9,using all settings on high.

[Zyrtec]

Hmmmmm...I see this thread diverting from its original title and purpose and becoming increasingly an A vs. B thread plus personal attacks.

I believe it might be drawn to a close pretty soon. I'm hopping to be wrong but...


Best regards,



Carlos

[Arup]

Every setting on high and no FPs with Avira, as for the ad, a very small price to pay for the best AV out there period and free.

[Boost]

-{ Quote: "The ad is easily disabled using Win XP, SP3, 32 bit. Not sure about other systems. Once again, I'd use Avira if it was even lighter on the system. It's a very good black-listing program for sure." }-

I'm sure Arup is already aware of this :argh:

[tipstir]

Good you found a way to disable the advert.. One down.. FPS fix then you got a good old AV from the past to the present.

[pykko]

One of my friends got a product update: 9.0.0.423 (dated 24.04.2009)

It has the long-waited 7-zip support and probably some other tweaks and bug fixes.
Unfortunately it seems it was a lucky download from an Avira testing server. ;D

It is not yet available to all, but it seems it will be soon: today, tomorrow.. who knows. :D

[Stefan Kurtzhals]

Pykko, don't spill all the beans! ;)

The funny part is - people complain about missing support for 7z, NSIS and so on. But once that feature is added, they continue to complain, now about "reduced" scan speed! If you scan more files and unpack more archives/SFX, of course your scan will take longer! ::)

People complaining about false positives, send them to me (heuristik2@avira.com) and I will get them fixed. Especially when the fps are HEUR/ or .Gen detections. But I also noticed that those complaining about false positives mostly got APPL/ and SPR/ detections, which are often dual-use tools (extract Windows serial number etc.). Which are unwanted in corporate environments. APPL/ and SPR/ should not be used on home user PCs unless you really understand what are you going to detect with it.

[IceCube1010]

Having tested a boat load of security apps and liking very few, I can confidently say using Avira PE and GeSWall is all the security I need.

Thank you Avira for a superior product!
Ice

[Arup]

-{ Quote: "Pykko, don't spill all the beans! ;)

The funny part is - people complain about missing support for 7z, NSIS and so on. But once that feature is added, they continue to complain, now about "reduced" scan speed! If you scan more files and unpack more archives/SFX, of course your scan will take longer! ::)

People complaining about false positives, send them to me (heuristik2@avira.com) and I will get them fixed. Especially when the fps are HEUR/ or .Gen detections. But I also noticed that those complaining about false positives mostly got APPL/ and SPR/ detections, which are often dual-use tools (extract Windows serial number etc.). Which are unwanted in corporate environments. APPL/ and SPR/ should not be used on home user PCs unless you really understand what are you going to detect with it." }-


True Avira users are pleased and we stick to it and are loyal to it, the bickering and moaning is from the vested interests crowd and they have no objectivity in their complaints.

[RejZoR]

Stefan, why does "Scan system now" link in the main interface always scans with default settings and with simple combined mode for cleaning? If i remember correctly version 8 used settings that were defined in preferences.
Because i'd prefer to use High heuristics and combined expert mode for actions what to do with the found stuff instead defaults.

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "Stefan, why does "Scan system now" link in the main interface always scans with default settings and with simple combined mode for cleaning? If i remember correctly version 8 used settings that were defined in preferences.
Because i'd prefer to use High heuristics and combined expert mode for actions what to do with the found stuff instead defaults." }-

yes i would like it if the Scan System Now link would use my settings, hope this can be fixed.:thumb:

[Stefan Kurtzhals]

Ok, let me ask tomorrow at work where the scan profile for the "scan system now" button went.

[blacknight]

Please, noone can help me about my problem with Avira 9, see my post here n. 122, n. 292 and 295 ? Thanks. ;)

[pykko]

-{ Quote: "Pykko, don't spill all the beans! ;)
" }-
Sorry. I regret and repent for my sin. ;D :lurking:

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: " Please, noone can help me about my problem with Avira 9, see my post here n. 122, n. 292 and 295 ? Thanks. ;)" }-
blacknight, what about installing Avira first, then CIS?

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "I'm not too worried about the false positives for Avira. Detecting a Superantispyware component as a virus was indeed annoying (a few weeks ago), but I never noticed any further false positives with heuristics set on highest. The same goes with Comodo AV - only found one false positive on my system so far with heuristics on highest. I see a lot of people complaining about false positives, but until I get problems myself, I couldn't really care less (to be rather blunt haha!)" }-

I am sure they'll get it right one day..

[Arup]

In case of Avira, they already got it right, since version 8 they have been consistent with minimal issues. Avira unlike others have never hosed files, slowed systems down, wiped out MBRs rendering the OS unbootable, so as for track record goes, with the best detection, minimal system impact, good scan speed, Avira is close to getting it right than many of its competitors.

[the Tester]

I haven't experienced any f/p's with Avira AntiVir 9 on high settings either.

[Boost]

-{ Quote: "I am sure they'll get it right one day.." }-

They already have.

The majority of users have no problems with FP's. The majority of users describe avira as doin what it was designed and written for,detecting viruses / malware,and in the end,the job gets done.

[disinter1]

-{ Quote: "Pykko, don't spill all the beans! ;)

The funny part is - people complain about missing support for 7z, NSIS and so on. But once that feature is added, they continue to complain, now about "reduced" scan speed! If you scan more files and unpack more archives/SFX, of course your scan will take longer! ::)

People complaining about false positives, send them to me (heuristik2@avira.com) and I will get them fixed. Especially when the fps are HEUR/ or .Gen detections. But I also noticed that those complaining about false positives mostly got APPL/ and SPR/ detections, which are often dual-use tools (extract Windows serial number etc.). Which are unwanted in corporate environments. APPL/ and SPR/ should not be used on home user PCs unless you really understand what are you going to detect with it." }-


Well, I have no idea how to send samples, trust me I've tried, but if you go to gamefaqs.com with avira premium on high alot of detections are made (if u click on any system xbox, etc), I am sure they are false positives please fix this thank you

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "They already have.

The majority of users have no problems with FP's. The majority of users describe avira as doin what it was designed and written for,detecting viruses / malware,and in the end,the job gets done." }-


I'll still recommend this AV I've already done so. As PCT SDAV can't catch them all or just doesn't protect so well if you consider yourself a power user. So far it found 10 pest one USB WD HD and another one it found 100 Pest where the user didn't bother to clean his PC off of Pest, but Avira AV found enough for both users to be happen. They same it was able to removed what it found.

[pykko]

I just got build 9.0.0.430 (17.04.2009) here. ;D

[xan K]

so did I, but the update process was painfully slow. :)

[blacknight]

-{ Quote: "blacknight, what about installing Avira first, then CIS?" }-

Macstorm it's one of the many ways that I tried, alone result. I'm angry 'cause a my friend uses CIS and Avira 9 and they run perfectly.

[bonedriven]

Just within these two days,my avira updated 3 or 4 major updates.Each is about 5mb. These updates all require reboot. Is that normal?? Or it's just something wrong with mine?

[Ed_H]

Yep, big update today. 37 files changed but I have not seen any info about what all the changes are.

[the Tester]

-{ Quote: "Just within these two days,my avira updated 3 or 4 major updates.Each is about 5mb. These updates all require reboot. Is that normal?? Or it's just something wrong with mine?" }-

I updated this morning and a reboot was required.

[Ed_H]

From what I read on Avira's forum the reboots are required because of firewall updates in the suite.

[siberianwolf]

got the update today, but no reboot took place. it was as if it were a vdf update.

[siberianwolf]

-{ Quote: "So just to clarify, the Avira Antivirus component has had a big udpate? Thanks.

EDIT: Okay, I think that question has been answered by the last poster. Hmm, any changes you noticing? Is it any lighter etc?" }-
seems it's not a major update:
http://techblog.avira.com/2009/04/27/avira-antivir-9-eu2-a-few-bugfixes/en/
edit: @ssj100, it's more of an update that's addressing some minor issues with the mail guard and fw components of avira ss.

[the Tester]

I have the free antivirus only and I needed to reboot.
So, it's not just the suite with firewall that prompts a reboot with this update.

[icr]

Got the update now had to reboot
48 files are updated:o

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "
Macstorm it's one of the many ways that I tried, alone result. I'm angry 'cause a my friend uses CIS and Avira 9 and they run perfectly." }-
Did you check if your avira updates correctly without CIS? you're using the free version right? try the latest build (http://www.filehippo.com/download_antivir/). Or you might want to test the premium version and find if your problem lies in the free version (i sent you a PM). Lastly, do you use any registry cleaner tool? I would advice you to consider the regcleaner feature included in jv16 PowerTools (http://www.macecraft.com/) and run it between installs (30-day free without limitations).

[Osaban]

I never ever had to reboot, I suspect it depends on what the computer was performing or if other programs were active while the update was taking place with people needing a reboot.

[Arup]

No reboots here. Avira premium or free.

[Boost]

No rebooting needed here.

Using the free version.

[innerpeace]

I'm still using Avira Premium 8. Is there any way to get the program to update to ver. 9? I've tried clicking Update and then clicking Start product update and it doesn't work.

[Ed_H]

-{ Quote: "I'm still using Avira Premium 8. Is there any way to get the program to update to ver. 9? I've tried clicking Update and then clicking Start product update and it doesn't work." }-

Do you get a pop-up asking if you want to update to the new version when you re-boot?

[Boost]

-{ Quote: "I'm still using Avira Premium 8. Is there any way to get the program to update to ver. 9? I've tried clicking Update and then clicking Start product update and it doesn't work." }-

I had to uninstall version 8,then download version 9. I know some other people have had to do this as well.

[innerpeace]

-{ Quote: "Do you get a pop-up asking if you want to update to the new version when you re-boot?" }-
No. I haven't had the pop-ups since the first week 9 was released.

-{ Quote: "I had to uninstall version 8,then download version 9. I know some other people have had to do this as well." }-
I have a strange feeling that is what I need to do.

Thanks for your replies.

[blacknight]

-{ Quote: " Or you might want to test the premium version and find if your problem lies in the free version (i sent you a PM). Lastly, do you use any registry cleaner tool? I would advice you to consider the regcleaner feature included in jv16 PowerTools (http://www.macecraft.com/) and run it between installs (30-day free without limitations)." }-

Thanks.... ;) with the free I already tried with jv16 PowerTools, I have the license.

[blacknight]

Neither the premium version runs the updater. I believe that Avira 8 let in my system some file tha no one registry cleaner and unistaller sw can delete. Unlucky I hadn't an old TIA image without Avira 8 installed.

[apm]

Avira 9 Premium bug:
Freeze after scan.
http://xs538.xs.to/xs538/09182/avira9970.jpg

[Arup]

Interesting........so called Avira bug being posted by someone with Dr. Web avatar, maybe its the spider bug from Dr. Web causing the alleged Avira scan freeze ;)

Guess its time to pay Dr. Web forum a visit and check the number of spiders and other creepy crawlers in the closet eh!

[MrGSM]

French language available for Avira Products: http://www.avira.com/fr/downloads/avira_antivir_premium.html

[Thug21]

Where is the 7z support? I see other new archive types but not 7z.

Does anyone have it working?

[the Tester]

-{ Quote: "Where is the 7z support? I see other new archive types but not 7z.

Does anyone have it working?" }-


I don't see it either.

[pykko]

-{ Quote: "Avira 9 Premium bug:
Freeze after scan.
http://xs538.xs.to/xs538/09182/avira9970.jpg" }-
What were you scanning?
Is it can't be reproduced it may be realated to your OS, other applications installed that are interfering with Avira.

[pykko]

-{ Quote: "Where is the 7z support? I see other new archive types but not 7z.

Does anyone have it working?" }-
No 7zip support yet.

[trjam]

-{ Quote: "No 7zip support yet." }-

pykko, is there anything I can do to help. He He He:dry:

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "Neither the premium version runs the updater. I believe that Avira 8 let in my system some file tha no one registry cleaner and unistaller sw can delete. Unlucky I hadn't an old TIA image without Avira 8 installed." }-
but.. does it update correctly without CIS installed? that was my first question in my last post. If you plan to install avira again, try running the 'software uninstaller' feature in powertools after using Windows ControlPanel's add/remove. I have another workaround for you but I need you to try the above first ;)

[apm]

-{ Quote: "Interesting........so called Avira bug being posted by someone with Dr. Web avatar, maybe its the spider bug from Dr. Web causing the alleged Avira scan freeze ;)

Guess its time to pay Dr. Web forum a visit and check the number of spiders and other creepy crawlers in the closet eh!" }-

o, i don't know that at this forum one must post relative to one's avatar, maybe i should never post any thing not related to spider or green color again, thanks for reminding me.

[Arup]

-{ Quote: "o, i don't know that at this forum one must post relative to one's avatar, maybe i should never post any thing not related to spider or green color again, thanks for reminding me." }-


No harm if you are posting genuine issues, that only helps making Avira better for us, sadly users of your choice of AV have done nothing but spread FUD and sheer nonsense in the past and thats truly understandable as the Spider refuses to come to the realm of AV testing and they place a veil of confusion to cite the reason for their cop out.

Don't take it personally but with a Avatar of Spider you are posting a bug which has not been seen by those of us who are using Avira on day to day basis. Maybe switch your avatar to the umbrella for few weeks and then we know that you are credible to an extent even though you might be biased and subjective.

[blacknight]

-{ Quote: "but.. does it update correctly without CIS installed? " }-

No, I've tried it some days ago, and I believe to have posted it, I'm not sure now.

-{ Quote: "If you plan to install avira again, try running the 'software uninstaller' feature in powertools after using Windows ControlPanel's add/remove. I have another workaround for you but I need you to try the above first ;)" }-


I already tried it, I used also the Avira remotion tool, J16Power Tool....Till I won't to format my system I'm afraid to have no more options to try.

[virtumonde]

Is the new Imap feature in Mailguard supposed to work with gmail through thunderbird!!!!!!! Cos it blocks thunderbird here ,i have to remove mailguard for email to work

[tipstir]

This is what Avira Free or Premium + Security didn't see or couldn't fix or remove. AVG Free had spotted it but only could send it to the vault thus not removing the entire string. RAV 2009 cleaned it..

Now

linkinfo.dll
IsDrv118.sys

These two spread like a worms on all HDD in your system. Just letting who can add these to the list of defs need to be aware of it..

[Arup]

Rising Anti Virus had one of the worse detection rates, lower than most, just preposterous to suggest that Avira which has industry standard detection rate of 99% couldn't detect these two if they are virus at all. Have you sent the samples to Avira?

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "I already tried it, I used also the Avira remotion tool, J16Power Tool....Till I won't to format my system I'm afraid to have no more options to try." }-
ok, you might want to try the following (assuming it's an avira regkey what's causing your issue, which i very much doubt): PowerTools has a feature called RegistryFinder with which you can search for avira related keys and delete them (use this tool with caution, check what you are deleting and make backup).
Of course, do this after you have uninstalled the program from windows's add/remove. Registryfinder has worked for me a few times for other apps :thumb: Also, try the avira forum for additional advice.

[WilliamP]

I have Ver. 9 Prem. and the only problem is Mail Guard. I use Outlook Express for E Mail and had to shut off the Advanced Heuristics scan. Sometimes I have to shut off MG completely to get E Mail. There has been a lot of posts on their forum about the same problem. I hope they can get it fixed.

[disinter1]

Can someone go to www.gamefaqs.com and click on any system, and report a false positive alarmed by avira premium everything on high, thanks.

[deanmartin]

-{ Quote: "Can someone go to www.gamefaqs.com and click on any system, and report a false positive alarmed by avira premium everything on high, thanks." }-
It does on high, but medium is ok.

[xan K]

just did that, and with everything on high I didn't get any warning.

[disinter1]

-{ Quote: "It does on high, but medium is ok." }-


Ah, ok so it's not just me, yeah it has to be on high.

[Macstorm]

-{ Quote: "I have Ver. 9 Prem. and the only problem is Mail Guard. I use Outlook Express for E Mail and had to shut off the Advanced Heuristics scan. Sometimes I have to shut off MG completely to get E Mail. There has been a lot of posts on their forum about the same problem. I hope they can get it fixed." }-
I have the same setup as you (OE, MG enabled and heuristics at default medium level) but I don't have problems with e-mail. Are you running other security program along with avira?

[Fajo]

-{ Quote: "Interesting........so called Avira bug being posted by someone with Dr. Web avatar, maybe its the spider bug from Dr. Web causing the alleged Avira scan freeze ;)

Guess its time to pay Dr. Web forum a visit and check the number of spiders and other creepy crawlers in the closet eh!" }-


Oh Arup how I have missed you :P

Anyways Been out for a wile nice to see Avira have a new version out installing across the board right now. Been gone a two months damn how things have changed. :blink:

[Banshee]

Is the firewall any better in v9 ?

[virtumonde]

-{ Quote: "Is the firewall any better in v9 ?" }-
I don't know what you mean by better.
With privileged application feature that they introduced in v9 i can finally use p2p and play online games without trouble .This was the drawback that keept me not using the previous suite.
It's still not so user friendly IMO (when you want to add manual rules but with privileged application feature you'll probably not have to).

[Arup]

-{ Quote: "Oh Arup how I have missed you :P

Anyways Been out for a wile nice to see Avira have a new version out installing across the board right now. Been gone a two months damn how things have changed. :blink:" }-


Nice to see you back. :) Things have certainly changed but somethings still remain the same.

[Luxeon]

I am testing Avira Free on two computers...pretty nice, so far!

Seems light and fast. If it continues to perform well, I may upgrade to the premium version, as I hear it has some additional capabilities such as mail and web protection.

[Kerodo]

Yep, I recently bought a Premium license, it's very nice. Can't beat the protection and features for that price. I think it cost me $26.95 US. That's nothing for such a good product. Well worth it IMO.

[icr]

i m still having that promotional license:lurking: that runs till June 09 might be thinking of renewing it :thumb:

[Pigula]

Is there any possibility to set "safe start" after installation of the program? Thanks in advance.

[pykko]

-{ Quote: "Is there any possibility to set "safe start" after installation of the program? Thanks in advance." }-
Go to Start, Run, type cmd, hit enter, a command prompt window will open.
cd c:\Program Files
cd Avira
cd AntiVir Desktop
avconfig.exe /WIZARD

[Pigula]

Everything would be OK, but after following your instructions I haven't noticed any changes. What is more, after opening the wizard again, "normal start" is marked. Is that as it should be?

[Leo2005]

-{ Quote: "Does anyone know why this is or how it could be remedied?" }-
this is a setting fixed by avira to avoid false positives.
for scanning with high heuristics you need to choose another scan profil