Rising Antivirus 2009

[RejZoR]

I'm now using it for few days and i actually quite like it. Very nice interface (probably the best i've seen), nice features and regular updates.
What i'm wondering is if anyone has ever seen heuristic detection with Rising.
And i'm not talking about behavior detection (well that also) but from a file scanner. You have to set File Monitor (and other monitors to) to HIGH in order to enable heuristics.
If anyone has ever had a heuristic detection, can that person post a screenshot of it here or a detection name? I'm really interested on how good it is.

Also can anyone point me to any recent RAV2009 tests? I'd like to see how 09 version performans compared to others.

[the Tester]

When I ran it for a short time I never had any heuristic detections.
If I used the "High" setting it would have been only on the scanner.

I don't know of any tests that included the 2009 version.
A Google Search shows Check Mark and VB100 certification. No test results.

[dw2108]

-{ Quote: "What i'm wondering is if anyone has ever seen heuristic detection with Rising. And i'm not talking about behavior detection (well that also) but from a file scanner. You have to set File Monitor (and other monitors to) to HIGH in order to enable heuristics.
If anyone has ever had a heuristic detection, can that person post a screenshot of it here or a detection name? I'm really interested on how good it is." }-
Yeah, Rising AV gave me an alert while updating SAS about a certain trojan in the SAS database, and that trojan was actually just added in the SAS database, and Rising had not been updated for a week on that PC.

Dave

[nomarjr3]

Looks like it has heuristics.

I'm willing to try it out, once I read more positive results from this product.

First Twister AV, now this :o

More choices for us consumers ;D

[RejZoR]

Detection is not bad at all and proactive features are quite nice so far.
Plus it's ultra light. Running it on Aspire One with even less impact than avast! or AVIRA. Only on-demand scan is very slow for some reason.
But i never do it anyway so no biggie.

[gery]

I read in another forum that the 2008 version was even better than 2009 and detection was ahead. Anyone can confirm it ??? i did not like it at all and never felt secure with Rising especially after reading here about the scandal with one of their staff or something like that. I uninstalled it right away . any feadback about rising would be appreciated here a lot
I am so used to Avast tho`

[the Tester]

It did run light for me also and the proactive/prevention features were good.
The scandal is what turned me off.

[clocks]

-{ Quote: "It did run light for me also and the proactive/prevention features were good.
The scandal is what turned me off." }-

The scandal did it for me also. I won't touch it for a few years.

[IceCube1010]

-{ Quote: "Detection is not bad at all and proactive features are quite nice so far.
Plus it's ultra light. Running it on Aspire One with even less impact than avast! or AVIRA. Only on-demand scan is very slow for some reason.
But i never do it anyway so no biggie." }-


If I remember correctly, the initial scan was slow but after that the scans ran fast or faster. Reminded me of AOL AVS the old Kaspersky AV. That was the same, the first scan was slow and then after that it zipped along.

Ice

[zen_usuario]

-{ Quote: "If I remember correctly, the initial scan was slow but after that the scans ran fast or faster.
Ice" }-

Yes, the first initial computer scan runs so slow because a file hash checksum of every file scanned, improving files changes recognition for further scans. After did it, newer scans run faster.

[jrjroberk]

-Is the Detection of Rising AV Higher than the one AVIRA AntiVir or avast! ?

I don't think so...

In the last comparative I found: http://www.virusbtn.com/news/2008/09_02
(Malware-Spyware Rates)
-AVIRA AntiVir: 99.8%-99.0%
-avast!: 99.3%-98.3%
-Rising: 83.4%-77.5%

Another thing we should NOT forget/overlook:
Rising is a Developer with Unethical practices:
http://chinadigitaltimes.net/tag/yu-bing/

Now, if you judge an AV by its Look (GUI),
then, Rising AV is great...
BUT
if you judge an AV by its Effectiveness (Performance),
then, Rising AV is NOT that great!

[GES/POR]

Effectiveness cant be measured by an ondemand test alone

[RejZoR]

I hardly believe that ClamAV performed better...

[dw2108]

My only gripes are with the damned double negatives some of the settings. I dunno if I'm giving Rising AV the right to protect, be disabled or what!

Yes! We have no ...

Dave

PS the Rising PC Doctor is a fairly good antispyware app, but you have to exclude its exe and dll plugin from RAV, so if you use/install Rising PC Doc, turn off RAV until you've excluded that and REBOOT.

[jrjroberk]

-{ Quote: "Effectiveness cant be measured by an ondemand test alone" }-
Don't tell me that you overlook the Low Detection rate of Rising,
because you trust its HIPS ;D so much...;D

[RejZoR]

Well, don't underestimate their proactive part. It proved itself few times against the toughest malware like latest Virut variants. File monitor missed it but Smart Defense prevented it completelly. But it's not as annoying as Comodo's Defense+ which is one of the major pros.

[the Tester]

Does the 2009 version have this?

"Smart Virtual Machine with Behaviour & Packing Pattern Recognition"

It's listed on softpedia under key features, but I don't see that in the description anywhere else.

Here's more on that feature from softpedia:
"Rising Antivirus comes with an integrated smart virtual machine, which is used for virus scanning and malware recognition. RISING's proprietary smart virtual machine technology provides the additional safety for your computer without slowing down your system. Suspected code and program can be run in this virtual machine for RISING Antivirus to check for potential malicious behaviour. RISING's Behaviour & Packing Pattern Recognition allows to test such potential malware thoroughly without influencing the performance of your PC and protects your system against new viruses and unknown viruses."

[majoMo]

-{ Quote: "Another thing we should NOT forget/overlook:
Rising is a Developer with Unethical practices:" }-
Again the same.

-{ Quote: "P.S.: Interesting to see curious posts in this forum, how to assail Rising is done: like cann't to deduct Rising software performance, they gather informations about... entertainment affairs between former executives/employees and Rising (in fact such kind of things happens all the time in corporations). It's time to remember also some Microsoft similar affairs...: Link1 (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_39/b3952001.htm) - Link2 (http://www.appscout.com/2009/01/microsoft_sues_former_employee_1.php) - Link3 (http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/120707-first-passport-now-fraud-former.html)" }-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft
http://www.microsoft-antitrust.gov/

[zen_usuario]

-{ Quote: "

Now, if you judge an AV by its Look (GUI),
then, Rising AV is great...
BUT
if you judge an AV by its Effectiveness (Performance),
then, Rising AV is NOT that great!" }-

Perhaps you can ask to these "Reference Users", why are they using RISING,.......
Perhaps by its nice look? Could be, but I don't know, and you? :argh:

"International Clients:

· Ajinomoto(Japan)
· Citect(Australia)
· Lotte(Japan)
· Sanyo(Japan)
· Spirax Sarco(UK)
· Yamaha(Japan)
· Bosch(Germany)
· Komatsu(Japan)
· Mitsubishi(Japan)
· SME Bank(Korea)
· MTL Instruments Ltd.(UK)
· Otto Bock Healthcare(Germany)"


(extracted from: http://www.rising-global.com/products/Rising-Antivirus-2009.html)

If I'm remembering well, nobody here said RISING AV "is the best of...", neither "better than...".

[jrjroberk]

-{ Quote: "Well, don't underestimate their proactive part. It proved itself few times against the toughest malware like latest Virut variants. File monitor missed it but Smart Defense prevented it completelly. But it's not as annoying as Comodo's Defense+ which is one of the major pros." }-

O.K. but it neither AVIRA AntiVir nor avast! ;D
-So, why bother? Just for a nice GUI?

[jrjroberk]

-{ Quote: "Perhaps you can ask to these "Reference Users", why are they using RISING,.......
Perhaps by its nice look? Could be, but I don't know, and you? :argh:

"International Clients:

· Ajinomoto(Japan)
· Citect(Australia)
· Lotte(Japan)
· Sanyo(Japan)
· Spirax Sarco(UK)
· Yamaha(Japan)
· Bosch(Germany)
· Komatsu(Japan)
· Mitsubishi(Japan)
· SME Bank(Korea)
· MTL Instruments Ltd.(UK)
· Otto Bock Healthcare(Germany)"


(extracted from: http://www.rising-global.com/products/Rising-Antivirus-2009.html)

If I'm remembering well, nobody here said RISING AV "is the best of...", neither "better than..."." }-

-Since Rising is not the BEST AV,
and it is NOT better than AVIRA AntiVir or avast!,
we ended up with just a nice GUI;D

-Sorry, but the list of International Clients
tells me Absolutely NOTHING!
All AV vendors have International Clients...
So, what?


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One thing you seem to "Forget" is that Rising AV was recently accused of
UNETHICAL practices:
http://chinadigitaltimes.net/tag/yu-bing/


~~ removed off-topic comment ~~

[bonedriven]

The situation in China is:

People who do care and know how to care their pc's security don't use Rising AV.

Besides,it is not the first time rising fighting other security software company with dishonest methods.(Calling Kaspersky "the king of FP",War with 360safe.)

I have never been into rising because I have seen too many pcs infected with rising installed.

It's my own opinion and maybe personal feelings about the company.

No,I don't like Rising at all.

[gery]

rising doesn't include spyware module in their software do they?

[Firecat]

-{ Quote: "Calling Kaspersky "the king of FP"" }-

Wasn't this statement connected to false detection of Rising Anti-Spyware (Rising Kaka) from KAV? I heard Kaspersky China was uncooperative and slow to fix the fp, so yeah there are two sides to that story.......:-\

[Firecat]

-{ Quote: "rising doesn't include spyware module in their software do they?" }-
Rising AV has signatures for detecting adware/spyware but specialized spyware protection is only offered by the PC Doctor tool.

[bonedriven]

-{ Quote: "Wasn't this statement connected to false detection of Rising Anti-Spyware (Rising Kaka) from KAV? I heard Kaspersky China was uncooperative and slow to fix the fp, so yeah there are two sides to that story.......:-\" }-

yeah,they've got tons of two sides stories.

[virtumonde]

KAV detectect/ed few weeks ago when i tried it the Rising firewall as a trojan,long after there ware posts in their forum about this.
I don't know if they removed the detection now.
For someone who likes and knows how to configure rising HIPS modules i think it's a good choice,and very light.

[chrome_sturmen]

I keep hearing tell that rising is unethical, dishonest, and just bites a fat one in general, any truth to these allegations?

[jrjroberk]

-{ Quote: "I keep hearing tell that rising is unethical, dishonest, and just bites a fat one in general, any truth to these allegations?" }-

http://chinadigitaltimes.net/tag/yu-bing/

I guess this isn't Enough for you, is it?
If it isn't, then, No Evidence against Rising will be Enough for you.

[chrome_sturmen]

-{ Quote: "http://chinadigitaltimes.net/tag/yu-bing/

I guess this isn't Enough for you, is it?
If it isn't, then, No Evidence against Rising will be Enough for you." }-


there goes rising :thumbd: :'( :dry: :dry:

[Fly]

-{ Quote: "http://chinadigitaltimes.net/tag/yu-bing/

I guess this isn't Enough for you, is it?
If it isn't, then, No Evidence against Rising will be Enough for you." }-

That's extreme. A (borderline ?) criminal organization.

You might as well install FunWebProducts or Vundo on your computer.

[RejZoR]

Not really. Even though they may have other business stuff behind, they are no different than how Intel is bullying AMD on CPU market.
The program still does the job regardless.

[1timeuserrr]

Well, I tested Rising in my own laptop and in my cousin´s PC. My cousin is currently studying at the university so he is more exposed than me to viruses and trojans.

In my laptop:

As in the past three weeks that I tested Rising, I never lend my USB or insert it into any ¨public¨ computer, and I was very careful when visiting sites, etc.
My laptop didnt suffer any problem/infection. Rising never alerted me of any infected or suspicious file.

My laptop was running very smooth and faster than with McAfee or Avira and in my test with old viruses, it´s detection rate was good.


In my cousin´s PC:

I reviewed Rising´s detection log in this PC and I could find more than 50 infections catched by Rising, but my cousin insisted that his system was still infected because everytime he inserts his USB memory into other friends computer, their antivirus found viruses/trojans and also because his PC was running slow.

I uninstalled Rising and installed Avast, and Avast found two different trojans in his system and in his USB memory. Trojans not found by Rising.


I´m currently using KIS 2009 in my PC and NIS 2009 in my laptop and both are great. I really prefer McAfee (I have a year subscription) to Norton but I have serious problems with McAfee Total Protection and my network.

Well, from my experience I can confirm that Rising is noy -yet- a good solution against malware.

[dw2108]

One thing I hate about RAV and RIS is the default 15 seconds of response time from the alert boxes, which should be 60 seconds at least. Anyone here who, while standing 3 ft. away from his PS and holding a scalding hot cup of coffe, who is able in 15 sec to set down that scalding cup of coffee and get to his PC and find the damned mouse in order to click ignore?

Also, the disable all defense doesn't turn off all defence, because its HIPS is still running. I found out that when IoBit Smart Degrag was attacked several times by Rising.

Dave

[1timeuserrr]

Totally agree! those 15 seconds in the popup in the middle of the screen suck!

There are other kind of alerts that appear in the lower right part of the monitor that lasts 60 seconds and you even have the option to cancel the countdown, but it doesn´t happen with the other kind of alert which corresponds to the HIPS defense I believe.

[majoMo]

1. Nice to see good contribution to the topic as 1timeuserrr test. Sadly only a few to answer to the poster RejZoR (it will be interesting to know) : "What i'm wondering is if anyone has ever seen heuristic detection with Rising." and "If anyone has ever had a heuristic detection, can that person post a screenshot of it here or a detection name?"

2. @ dw2108, at least in Rising Firewall the user can configure (in 'Detailed Settings') the display time easily (by default 60 sec.); in Rising AV I don't know though (I'm using Avast right now).

3. Resumes interesting to see that what is crucial is to attack Rising with projected feelings like Freud liked to analyze. And he known well why... To distract is the best way to ignore what is undesirable for us - but that it's real... Psychological projection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection) is a absorbing issue that we see in security forums also...

[ronjor]

Some off topic posts removed. Please use the personal messaging system or email for private conversations.

[zen_usuario]

-{ Quote: "One thing I hate about RAV and RIS is the default 15 seconds of response time from the alert boxes, which should be 60 seconds at least.

Dave" }-

+1, The same from me.
The firewall part alert boxes permits stops the countdown, but the ones from the AV & Smart Active Defense not.
With the Smart Active Defense alert boxes, I'm thinking hasn't time edit possibility. Does someone discovered something for increase time or stop countdown for these?

Advanced thanks!

[RejZoR]

Those 15 seconds can be increased to whatever you like. I've set it to 60 seconds. Just go to File Monitor and you can set that setting there.

[1timeuserrr]

-{ Quote: "1. Nice to see good contribution to the topic as 1timeuserrr test. Sadly only a few to answer to the poster RejZoR (it will be interesting to know) : "What i'm wondering is if anyone has ever seen heuristic detection with Rising." and "If anyone has ever had a heuristic detection, can that person post a screenshot of it here or a detection name?"

2. @ dw2108, at least in Rising Firewall the user can configure (in 'Detailed Settings') the display time easily (by default 60 sec.); in Rising AV I don't know though (I'm using Avast right now).

3. Resumes interesting to see that what is crucial is to attack Rising with projected feelings like Freud liked to analyze. And he known well why... To distract is the best way to ignore what is undesirable for us - but that it's real... Psychological projection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection) is a absorbing issue that we see in security forums also..." }-


I've done my own research. Very very limited I know but I hope it helps someone.

Regarding the heuristics... according to my cousin's experience, it seems that the heuristic is not working as it should. His computer got infected by very well known trojans (detected by Avast, Nod32 and AVG installed in his friends' PCs) that obviously were doing non-conventional things (behaviours) that neither heuristics or HIPS or it's Advanced System Protection/Malicious Behavior Interceptor were able to detect...

I have another cousin of mine running Rising Internet Security (hehe.. cousins are my guinea pigs ;D ) and I will pay him a visit this weekend. I'm planning to give him my McAfee license. I will scan his PC with McAfee and will post the results here. This time I will write the virus/trojan name down.

[majoMo]

@ 1timeuserrr, a good research indeed and turned out to be which is meaningfully related to the topic. It's good to see based and useful assertions that are appreciated. If heuristic isn't good enough and like the signatures aren't expanded I go on with Avast for now; I'll try Rising AV later). Maybe your cousin could help us if their PC is heavy infected...

BTW, it seems that is possible to configure the display time (RejZoR'suggestion; good news to zen_usuario, dw2108 and 1timeuserrr).

Also: can someone tell us if the help file is good? Thanks in advance.

[RejZoR]

This is the timer...

[Firecat]

To be honest, I have indeed seen heuristic detections from Rising. However, I did not want to post on this thread because what I noted was about two years ago and I have no record or pictures left of any detections from that period, so what I can tell will have no meaningful impact.......All I can say is that Rising does have a working heuristic engine.

[1timeuserrr]

-{ Quote: "This is the timer..." }-

Sorry but this doesn´t change the 15 seconds timer for the messages that appear IN THE MIDDLE of the screen which I guess are triggered by some malicious behaviour. The one that you point is for the ´File protection´ alert messages and this is the kind of message where you can even cancel the timer countdown.

I will try to setup a virtual machine, install Rising and try to trigger it´s alerts so I can post an image here. If not, I will do it in my cousin´s PC ;)

[RejZoR]

I just pointed it out how it looks. For behavior monitor, you have to set it in that section.

[zen_usuario]

-{ Quote: "Sorry but this doesn´t change the 15 seconds timer for the messages that appear IN THE MIDDLE of the screen which I guess are triggered by some malicious behaviour. The one that you point is for the ´File protection´ alert messages and this is the kind of message where you can even cancel the timer countdown.

I will try to setup a virtual machine, install Rising and try to trigger it´s alerts so I can post an image here. If not, I will do it in my cousin´s PC ;)" }-
I'm thinking the HIPS part of RISING (Smart Active Defense) hasn't the option of edit or cancel the countdown from his alert boxes. "Malicious behaviour" is covered by "Smart Active Defense". I don't know if there is another "way" for do it (can be some registry edition...).

By another hand, RISING AV & RIS has a tool for antitrojan, it's called RISING PC Doctor. It's downloadable (english) from the home page and after installed shows integrated at "Tools" tab under the name of Antispyware.
I don't know if this tool can take care of the trojans you named at your test, but can be thing of interest. Also this tool has protection for USB media.

Thanks a lot!

[1timeuserrr]

When I was testing Rising, I contacted Rising Customer Support desk and they told me to install PC Doctor for it's anti-spyware function as trojan detection is already included in Rising AV features.

Sure PC Doctor has also anti-trojan features but I believe it is deactivated when Rising AV is detected.

Anyway and as I told in other thread, PC Doctor doesn't update daily so it kindda gives me the impression that Rising is not investing much time in developing it and I ended uninstalling it along with Rising Internet Security 2009 (for which I bought a license).

Regarding the 15 seconds timer, hope Rising changes it soon.

[zen_usuario]

RISING PC Doctor is still in beta stage, and I guess is a complementary tool also for RIS or RAV. I'm thinking also this tool is more focused to Anti-Trojan than Anti-Spyware, but I'm not sure (this should explain the lower update frequence).

In my case, I'm using RIS2009 with PC Doctor, and shows full activated. Allways I put on an USB Stick, a informative balloon appears. Also advertisements for not installed Windows updates.
A "right click" over his icon tray shows all options enabled.

I've scanned some times my system with the Anti-Trojan and Anti-Spyware features from PC Doctor, and founded a "System.ini" file in "System32" folder and some registry traces, no major detections.

[tekkaman]

To trigger Heuristics and more hips protection everything has to be set in high. I entered an infected website last friday and the web trojan defense poped up. Then I got some heuristics alerts. What I didn't like is that when I clicked delete it said that it ignored the threat. And it says so in the log as well. I would like to test it more agains infected sites to see how it behaves and if it ignores it again.

[quanzi_1507]

-{ Quote: "RISING PC Doctor is still in beta stage, and I guess is a complementary tool also for RIS or RAV. I'm thinking also this tool is more focused to Anti-Trojan than Anti-Spyware, but I'm not sure (this should explain the lower update frequence)." }-
I think it's focused more on antispyware, as its chinese counterpart is "Kaka antispyware".

[wujxin]

According to some tests from a few chinese security forums,I have to say that the Rising's detection is not good enough.

[zen_usuario]

-{ Quote: "I think it's focused more on antispyware, as its chinese counterpart is "Kaka antispyware"." }-
I agree, but seems has features more focused to anti-trojan (Trojan Behavior Detector & Blocker, Trojan Download Blocker) "Highlights". Spyware Scan & Removal appears under "Other functions".
Just my impressions because "low cycle update", but you can be all right.

LINK: http://www.rising-global.com/products/rising-pc-doctor.html

[zen_usuario]

-{ Quote: "According to some tests from a few chinese security forums,I have to say that the Rising's detection is not good enough." }-
+1:thumb:
But when is combined with all other protection features, I'm thinking becomes a "decent" and light protection soft.

[1timeuserrr]

OK. As I promised, this is my report on Rising Antivirus installed on my cousin´s PC:

As soon as I arrived to his home, my uncle told me that the Home page (Google.com) has been changed to http://www.spuut.com

I installed PC doctor, (the free anti-spyware and anti-trojan software from Rising) did a Scan with it but found nothing.

Then I downloaded Malwarebytes and it detected a trojan in a file called win.exe in the C:\WINDOWS\ directory. Malwarebyte Anti-Malware deleted the file and also a registry entry.

Rising's heuristic and malicious behavior checker didn't detect anything as no entry about any strange behavior was registered in the log.

Now, I'm looking for a good antivirus for his Pentium III PC...

<edited to add minor details>

[zen_usuario]

-{ Quote: "Does the 2009 version have this?

"Smart Virtual Machine with Behaviour & Packing Pattern Recognition"

It's listed on softpedia under key features, but I don't see that in the description anywhere else.

Here's more on that feature from softpedia:
"Rising Antivirus comes with an integrated smart virtual machine, which is used for virus scanning and malware recognition. RISING's proprietary smart virtual machine technology provides the additional safety for your computer without slowing down your system. Suspected code and program can be run in this virtual machine for RISING Antivirus to check for potential malicious behaviour. RISING's Behaviour & Packing Pattern Recognition allows to test such potential malware thoroughly without influencing the performance of your PC and protects your system against new viruses and unknown viruses."" }-
Hi,
I've asked to RISING support about your question, and this was their answer:

Rising Antivirus has "Smart Virtual Machine with Behaviour & Packing Pattern Recognition" feature. The feature with Rising Antivirus persist several Edition, is not up to date speciality.

[the Tester]

Thank you Zen.


Just one question.
What do they mean when they say "is not up to date speciality."?
Being a foreign company they may mean one thing and I could be missing the intention here.
I understand Rising to say that that part of the program is not something that they dedicate much time to updating?

[Firecat]

It means this feature has existed since version 2007 of Rising products and is not new to the 2009 version; nor has it been particularly enhanced (in terms of re-writes or new functions/capabilities) in the time period since it was first introduced.

[GES/POR]

-{ Quote: "It means this feature has existed since version 2007 of Rising products and is not new to the 2009 version; nor has it been particularly enhanced (in terms of re-writes or new functions/capabilities) in the time period since it was first introduced." }-

Thats a damn shame :(

[zen_usuario]

-{ Quote: "Thank you Zen.


Just one question.
What do they mean when they say "is not up to date speciality."?
Being a foreign company they may mean one thing and I could be missing the intention here.
I understand Rising to say that that part of the program is not something that they dedicate much time to updating?" }-
Hi,
I'm thinking it means this feature is built in every new version released, and without an user "update" action required.
Or it means, simply, this isn't a newer ("up to date") feature.

I don't know in developement terms (like Firecat said).

I'm a foreigner too, and also for me there is a little bit difficult to interprete it.

[the Tester]

Thank You Zen and Firecat for clarifying that for me.
I appreciate it.

[tipstir]

I've been testing RAV 2009 it works on sever so it loaded on that server OS. On about 50% desktop/laptops working find. The test desktop rig I was using for virus/worms/cloaked-malware/trojans etc.. It has found some interesting using the MBI Malicious Behavior Interceptor most of what it found is right on the time. I've tested couple of programs to see if I could recreate the strain. Sure enough the count down timer gives you a few choices or if it found a virus strain in an exe it gives you the option do you want me to remove the virus. Sure then it's clean.

For free and it's has so much stuff packed into.. Lots of updates the boot virus scanner/cleaner before you even boot to see the Starting Windows is plus. I have their Rising PC Doctor on Server OS and Client OS, more like OS Security Tools to scan for leaks in your security by letting you know what patches you can download and install. It can do it automatically. Spyware/Trojan scanner/cleaner works well it has a lot of stuff to protect the system also Trojan Downloader Blocker, Trojan Interceptor, Auto Repair OS and more . More like add on to their RAV.

I wonder how their firewall works?

[dw2108]

@tipstir

What are your settings on the PC Doc? I don't want to create a conflict with RAV and PC Doc.

Thanks,
Dave

PS No matter which AV I've used, I keep coming back to RAV. Avira is on demand only in the "second opinion" mode.

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "@tipstir

What are your settings on the PC Doc? I don't want to create a conflict with RAV and PC Doc.

Thanks,
Dave

PS No matter which AV I've used, I keep coming back to RAV. Avira is on demand only in the "second opinion" mode." }-

No conflict with the two. They work together. I really haven't done anything to the PC Doctor that runs automatically fixes/cleans/patches OS, Office etc../protects/cleans for malware/spyware/trojans running when you visit sites not bad for being free and works on server/client OS.

I thought about installing the free firewall but it's RIS2009 freeware package it comes with Firewall/AV bundle. I'll test that and see how it goes on another test rig which is wireless.

[tipstir]

Okay I see that the free version of RIS 2009 works with PC Doctor too like the RAV does to scan for OS vulnerabilities.. This free RIS is a trip I see a little animated avator of their lion appears down near the clock sound effects and etc.. I've exit him out. Don't need to have a dancing lion on the screen. Sounds like one of the programmers at Rising has to much time on his or her hands.

Besides all of this Rising software, I've tighten up Group Policies too and disabled showing all those software installed in All Programs. Changed the user login name to another name but it's still the same user name. Kind of hard to explain but it works. Disable the Admin account and all the rest of the pack accounts which are not needed here.

[Warklen]

-{ Quote: "Okay I see that the free version of RIS 2009 works with PC Doctor" }-

Can you please post a link for the free version of RIS 2009? I cant find it anywhere.

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "Can you please post a link for the free version of RIS 2009? I cant find it anywhere." }-

Here use this one.. I've tested it again and still works..
http://rsdownload.rising.com.cn/for_down/rsfree/risfree09.exe

This is the linked I had used today..

I've just updated the RIS 2009 Free. You'll need to remove RAV 2009 Free when you use RIS 2009 Free.

Testing
RIS 2009 Free on

Rig Used
Toshiba Tecra 8000 (made in 1998) Mod-it by me to this below
CPU PII 266MHz (L2 512KB) / 256MB of RAM / 8MB of GPU / 40GB 7,200 RPM HDD
Windows XP Pro SP3
Wireless G Laptop
GAP - DD-WRT

[Warklen]

-{ Quote: "Here use this one.. I've tested it again and still works..
http://rsdownload.rising.com.cn/for_down/rsfree/risfree09.exe" }-

Thank you very much..

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "Thank you very much.." }-

Welcome...
Oh by-the-way if you only want the RFW 2009 Free (just the firewall) I don't know if it's both RFW/RAV 2009) I'll have to test that one out. But let me know if you want the link for RFW, as I just found that one on my own That's about it for now RAV 2009 Free can be found download.cnet.com

Have fun.. I must say running the entire suite RIS 2009 Free on this 11 year laptop is smooth, not sluggish with PCT FWP 3.14 was with RAV 2009 Free. I might just keep running this forever...

Just to let you know you can disable the animated Lion on started up, Net Monitor and Chinese wording in the News Status.

[tipstir]

Strange on China site they have RFW with RAV integrated for 2009 but if you try to connect you get connected to the Hong Kong site which only list RAV, RIS or RFW for 2009.

Anyway there is a free RFW (Firewall) 2009, I got it loaded on this system another Wireless Laptop (N) type.. Also have RAV (Antivirus ) 2009 loaded with RPD PC Doctor 6. RIS no issues no annoying pop ups like in PCTools FWP 3.14.

[tipstir]

Right now all gig systems are being scanned. This one is the test rig I had used on:

current versions

AVG Free
Avira Fee
Avira Premium + IS
Comodo IS
PC Tools Spyware Doctor with AV
PC Tools IS
A-Squared
VIPRE Rescue
VIPRE AV/Spyware
ThreatFire
PrevX Home
PrevX Business
RAV
RIS
RFW
Rising PC Doctor (this is just like PrevX and ThreatFire except it can remove the threat and also fix repairs to the OS plus download/install patches)
It's free also.. Works much better with RIS 2009...

Only AVG Free found these files but only it could move them to the vault. Where as RAV and RIS was able to clean the virus and these two cause about 50% on my other HDDs in the system as it spreads like a worm on a head case. 7% for a total of 57 two were trojan.bat those got deleted. The extra 5 were strains of worm.mar g something like that. PrevX H/B found them but kept on crashing.. Avira didn't find these. These are the ones and produce more cloaked-malware.

linkinfo.dll
IsDrv118.sys

I am still testing the scan results from the main server that's going to take longer to do.. Should be done by tonight?

[tipstir]

My main server OS is still going at it.. with RAV 2009 Free found 26 viruses all types It's 3 hrs just completed first two HDDs just one more HDD to go very huge chuck full of files..

Prior to this PC Doctor found 57 OS patches for Server it repair (download/install) them all. Then started RAV 2009 Free on all drive SCAN, memory an etc..

[tipstir]

Wow! Badly infected drives not the main one the other drives it's been 6 hrs still found 17 sub and 34 viruses. Now really good to know as it detect the threat it cleans the file or deletes it after it determines what type of threat it is or not. Most are zip some software I had created but it's okay for it to remove them. As the compiler used could have been infected years ago. Over 2 million files scanned so far..

[Dr33]

from your test do you think is has a good detection rate?

[Arup]

Funny, Rising doesn't even feature in av-comparatives latest report, last time it was tested, it didnt' do too good.

[tipstir]

-{ Quote: "Funny, Rising doesn't even feature in av-comparatives latest report, last time it was tested, it didnt' do too good." }-

I try not to follow the norm, as when I do they don't work as good as they are advertised all over the net. So let's say Rising who been around since 1998 has discovered to solve the mysteries of these pest. I waiting to see how the Server drives turn out..

[tipstir]

Done... Total 34 virus cleaned or deleted or completely removed. 17 sub those were unknowns but RAV reported what they were. Most were old crap files don't need those anymore. I've installed the RFW 2009 Free replacing the PC Tools FWP 3.14 on the 2003 server EE. That's it 100% Rising on my network. RIS 2009 Free on all wireless N and G laptops one desktop used as HTPC running SageTV 6.5.x with 3 PVR CableTV Tuner cards and Hauppauge Media MVP Server to manage 7x MVP is running the suite as it's very low on system resources Rising claims so far they're right on the time on that one. PII 266MHz running it so if that can run it anything can. Let's see how the months ahead turn out with me and Rising..

Just wanted to say it's really amazing how many tools when you remove them want to launch the browser to call back to say why you had removed them. ThreatFire, SpyBot and few others does that and FWP can't stop opening the browser. Spybot can't even find anything that tea timer used so much system resources 80K what a waste.

[tipstir]

Installed RIS 2009 with RAV works betters to me found some more and that pesty modifyPE.exe. Scan didn't take as low as the international version is freeav.exe. By the way there is ravfree09.exe available that would be the Chinese with English wording version.