Norton 360 v3.0 released

[Kerodo]

Don't know if it's been mentioned, but Norton 360 v3 is out now. Free upgrade to v3 from v2, it will remove v2 and use existing subscription etc. I installed it last night and am amazed at the superior performance in this version. They have incorporated all the latest NAV/NIS 2009 technology into this plus more and it seems extremely light and fast with no impact on system performance. The install was also 1000% faster than prior versions, took less than 1 minute here. I am impressed. If you like the all-in-one suites and/or Symantec, then you will enjoy this latest update.

[eBBox]

-{ Quote: "Don't know if it's been mentioned, but Norton 360 v3 is out now. Free upgrade to v3 from v2, it will remove v2 and use existing subscription etc. I installed it last night and am amazed at the superior performance in this version. They have incorporated all the latest NAV/NIS 2009 technology into this plus more and it seems extremely light and fast with no impact on system performance. The install was also 1000% faster than prior versions, took less than 1 minute here. I am impressed. If you like the all-in-one suites and/or Symantec, then you will enjoy this latest update." }-

Got it - running very nice so far :) Far better IMO than the other competitor "MEGA" suites.

[Victek123]

-{ Quote: "Got it - running very nice so far :) Far better IMO than the other competitor "MEGA" suites." }-

How is Norton 360 v3.0 different from Norton Internet Security 2009? I know it has a backup feature - is there anything else?

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "How is Norton 360 v3.0 different from Norton Internet Security 2009? I know it has a backup feature - is there anything else?" }-
Here is their product comparison page:

http://www.symantec.com/norton/products/charts/comparison.jsp?pcid=mp

Looks pretty much the same as NIS except for the Backup and PC Tuneup features. 360 is perhaps a little more set and forget also.

[TechOutsider]

It's just NIS09 w/ a yellow color scheme.

And NIS09's menus cut and paste all over the place.

[CountryGuy]

Not so, if you run 64 bit. Pretty much all of the functionality (such as SONAR, right click / context scanning) now work under Vista 64. Integrated backup and tuning are nice features as well, and don't produce any additional drag (noticable at least) compared to NIS2009.

I think if you are running the 32 bit version and have a backup solution, you're right - Its not a huge difference. However, if you are running Vista 64 its a pretty big upgrade imho.

[icr]

Trailing Norton 360:thumb:
Up and running good quite impressed with it

[vijayind]

-{ Quote: "Not so, if you run 64 bit. Pretty much all of the functionality (such as SONAR, right click / context scanning) now work under Vista 64. " }-
I think the same have now been added in the NIS 2009 16.5.x version which was released recently.
See this thread for info:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=235020

[raven211]

-{ Quote: "Integrated backup and tuning are nice features as well, and don't produce any additional drag (noticable at least) compared to NIS2009.
" }-

Well, I wouldn't expect it either. v3 should incorporate the idle-detections found in NIS and NAV2009, which means the full-screen detection (and Silent-Mode) is included. With previous versions of N360 when testing it I'd SERIOUS problems with the idle-detection. Would start doing scans and tasks while playing heavy games! >:( This was with both Beta versions and Final versions, and I reported it over and over, and they said it was fixed and would be fixed over and over (since it wasn't), and wasn't even in the final! No wonder N360 v2 got bashed by the users... When asking about idle-detection of NIS2009 vs N360v2, an employee said that they had the same technology! :blink: :gack: :wacko: ;D - N360v3 clearly shows they don't.

[raven211]

-{ Quote: "Not so, if you run 64 bit. Pretty much all of the functionality (such as SONAR, right click / context scanning) now work under Vista 64. " }-

Just out of curiousity - is anything missing? :blink: ??? (referring to "Pretty much all")

[The Hammer]

-{ Quote: "Just out of curiousity - is anything missing? :blink: ??? (referring to "Pretty much all")" }-Doubt it.

[raven211]

-{ Quote: "Doubt it." }-

Atleast I thought it didn't seem like it. ;D

[raven211]

-{ Quote: "Here is their product comparison page:

http://www.symantec.com/norton/products/charts/comparison.jsp?pcid=mp

Looks pretty much the same as NIS except for the Backup and PC Tuneup features. 360 is perhaps a little more set and forget also." }-

Interesting that they don't mention for example registry defragging which is a part of Norton Utilities (or more like PC Tools Registry Mechanic almost, but we all know why ;D :)) - then they could sell that expensive piece of crap on their customers too. :P - Does anyone know if Norton Utilities registry defrag is using the proper method, that's defragmenting on boot so there is no risk of data-loss, non-functioning programs, or rearranging the desktop to name a few... From what I've seen so far, System Mechanic and Auslogics Registry Defrag are the only ones doing right, compared to respected programs like TuneUp Utilities (or more like previously respected...). Since I've been experiencing those serious problems with registry defragmention software not doing things properly, I can only trust those two right now, even if I obviously choose Auslogics first. ;D

[CountryGuy]

-{ Quote: "Just out of curiousity - is anything missing? :blink: ??? (referring to "Pretty much all")" }-

I don't think so, at least compared to NIS2009's AV features. I don't have a 32 bit box to check against, so I can't say with 100% certainty.

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "I don't think so, at least compared to NIS2009's AV features. I don't have a 32 bit box to check against, so I can't say with 100% certainty." }-
I don't think so either. I would expect 360 v3 to now have all that NAV or NIS has, plus more, including any latest technologies.... it was just the last product to be updated.

[TechOutsider]

-{ Quote: "Just out of curiousity - is anything missing? :blink: ??? (referring to "Pretty much all")" }-

Nope. Used it during beta tests, just NIS + backup/tuneup + SONAR on x64 (mentioned by a poster)

[Kerodo]

The updating has changed in v3 also, I see it contantly getting new updates, sometimes many times within an hour. Whatever is needed. Pretty nice. So far no issues.

[TechOutsider]

-{ Quote: "The updating has changed in v3 also, I see it contantly getting new updates, sometimes many times within an hour. Whatever is needed. Pretty nice. So far no issues." }-

Well the updating (LiveUpdate) changed from NIS/NAV 08 ==> NIS/NAV09 as well.

[zfactor]

does this also incorporate the new ask toolbar and the added site checks?

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "does this also incorporate the new ask toolbar and the added site checks?" }-
Yes, it does....

[dbrisendine]

-{ Quote: "Interesting that they don't mention for example registry defragging which is a part of Norton Utilities .....

N360 v3 does not have a registry 'defrag' routine built in just error scanning and correction. The biggest differences between v2.x and v3.x are the new technologies fixed or included (SONAR, etc.) and IF the user wants to, there is more flexiblity on the user controlling some of the scheduling of the suite's activities. The Idle Time routines have been fixed also.:thumb:

[raven211]

-{ Quote: "-{ Quote: "Interesting that they don't mention for example registry defragging which is a part of Norton Utilities .....

N360 v3 does not have a registry 'defrag' routine built in just error scanning and correction. The biggest differences between v2.x and v3.x are the new technologies fixed or included (SONAR, etc.) and IF the user wants to, there is more flexiblity on the user controlling some of the scheduling of the suite's activities. The Idle Time routines have been fixed also.:thumb:" }-

LOL, yes, that's what I know. :P I was just curious why they don't include this fact (registry defragmention) in their chart as it could most possibly make a positive difference for their sales. :) - I just thought I could discuss that with you guys, get any thoughts on the subject.

I know a lot of the facts, pretty much all of them or even that to be honest - but the quotes might have confused some people about my posts leading to their answers, as well as this being about N360v3 specifically. ;D

[m00nbl00d]

Can any one tell me if Norton 360 also relies on DNS Client being enabled?

[1timeuserrr]

360 is not as customizable as NIS 2009 in the scan/firewall department. I prefer NIS and it's Sonar feature updates every 5 to 10 minutes.

Also 360 is heavier on resources than NIS.

[CountryGuy]

-{ Quote: "360 is not as customizable as NIS 2009 in the scan/firewall department. I prefer NIS and it's Sonar feature updates every 5 to 10 minutes.

Also 360 is heavier on resources than NIS." }-

Are you referring to v2 or v3? v3 Uses SONAR, and has those same updates. Resource utilization is extremely low.

[raven211]

-{ Quote: "360 is not as customizable as NIS 2009 in the scan/firewall department. I prefer NIS and it's Sonar feature updates every 5 to 10 minutes.

Also 360 is heavier on resources than NIS." }-

I like to think it's very small definitions, depending on how many new viruses there are released sort of and not for the SONAR. SONAR is analyzing behavior. Engine updates and such for the SONAR is obviously released though.

As CountryGuy said, are you refering to v2 or v3, cause since v3 now features the same updates as Norton 2009-edition, I would expect both the super-light footprint and FW customization being a part of N360 as well.

[Kerodo]

Must be referring to v2. V3 is extremely light, and I would expect it to be about on par with NIS/NAV 2009.

[imagreenster]

Hi Keroda or who can help.
where can I find this free upgrade from NIS 360 version 2 to version 3.
answer needed quickly please.
thanks.
imagreenster

[JasSolo]

-{ Quote: "Hi Keroda or who can help.
where can I find this free upgrade from NIS 360 version 2 to version 3.
answer needed quickly please.
thanks.
imagreenster" }-

Hi imagreenster,

Take a look over here (http://www.symantec.com/home_homeoffice/support/special/upgrade2007/vista/select_product.jsp?site=nuc)
Choose wich product you have now, and then follow the instructions.


Cheers

[imagreenster]

Thanks, JasSolo

Brilliant. Worked a treat. Had ordered and been sent wrong NIS product, decided to keep wrong product if I could upgrade! You helped me do that, so saving me the faff of returning 360v2 for what I ordered (NIS 2009).
Thanks for the help.

imagreenster

[JasSolo]

You're welcome, hope your product will serve you well ;)
Btw welcome to Wilders.


Cheers

[Fly]

(Not to hijack the thread, but I feel the urge to post this)

Well, I knew that Norton was expensive.

I just happened to notice the retail price for NIS 2009.

I'm in Europe, please don't ask me where.

After currency conversion NIS 2009 costs a bit over 90 USD !

[JasSolo]

-{ Quote: "(Not to hijack the thread, but I feel the urge to post this)

Well, I knew that Norton was expensive.

I just happened to notice the retail price for NIS 2009.

I'm in Europe, please don't ask me where.

After currency conversion NIS 2009 costs a bit over 90 USD !" }-

No problem mate, just buy it through the US site and you're home free ;)


Cheers

[Fly]

-{ Quote: "No problem mate, just buy it through the US site and you're home free ;)


Cheers" }-

For Norton that appears to be an option. But I don't intend to buy a Norton product.

[Ade 1]

-{ Quote: "For Norton that appears to be an option. But I don't intend to buy a Norton product." }-

So why post that here?

Anyway, trialling v3 here and am v impressed - as I was with NIS2009 but had to uninstall after moving to 64-bit and losing SONAR etc.

[1timeuserrr]

-{ Quote: "Are you referring to v2 or v3? v3 Uses SONAR, and has those same updates. Resource utilization is extremely low." }-

Hi. I meant Pulse in my previous post... ;) according to this product comparison chart from Symantec, 360 v3.0 doesn't have "Pulse updates every 5 to 15 minutes or faster" or "Intelligence-driven technology for faster, fewer, shorter scans".

The link is this:

http://shop.symantecstore.com/store/symnahho/en_US/ContentTheme/ThemeID.1795800/pbPage.NIS09wide?ipd=InterstitialChall&ipln=true

That's why I prefer NIS

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "Hi. I meant Pulse in my previous post... ;) according to this product comparison chart from Symantec, 360 v3.0 doesn't have "Pulse updates every 5 to 15 minutes or faster" or "Intelligence-driven technology for faster, fewer, shorter scans".

The link is this:

http://shop.symantecstore.com/store/symnahho/en_US/ContentTheme/ThemeID.1795800/pbPage.NIS09wide?ipd=InterstitialChall&ipln=true

That's why I prefer NIS" }-
I don't know if it was Pulse Updates or not, but 360 v3 was updating constanly here when I ran it, sometimes several times per hour. For what it's worth.....

[prius04]

Kind of confusing considering the following statement under "More Information" on the 360 v3.0 web page:

Delivers up to the minute virus protection – Automatically checks for new virus definitions every 5 to 15 minutes and downloads them in the background.† You get continuous protection without sacrificing performance.

http://shop.symantecstore.com/store/symnahho/en_US/ContentTheme/ThemeID.1795800/pbPage.N360v3wide?ipd=InterstitialChall2&ipln=true

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "Kind of confusing considering the following statement under "More Information" on the 360 v3.0 web page:

Delivers up to the minute virus protection – Automatically checks for new virus definitions every 5 to 15 minutes and downloads them in the background.† You get continuous protection without sacrificing performance.

http://shop.symantecstore.com/store/symnahho/en_US/ContentTheme/ThemeID.1795800/pbPage.N360v3wide?ipd=InterstitialChall2&ipln=true" }-
Yep, that's what it was doing here... Now whether that is "Pulse Updates" or not, I have no idea.

[raven211]

-{ Quote: "Hi. I meant Pulse in my previous post... ;) according to this product comparison chart from Symantec, 360 v3.0 doesn't have "Pulse updates every 5 to 15 minutes or faster" or "Intelligence-driven technology for faster, fewer, shorter scans".

The link is this:

http://shop.symantecstore.com/store/symnahho/en_US/ContentTheme/ThemeID.1795800/pbPage.NIS09wide?ipd=InterstitialChall&ipln=true

That's why I prefer NIS" }-

You prefer? It's simply a "typo" by Symantec. Have you even tested N360v3 before stating what you do? N360v3 features the same security features as Norton 2009-edition, but adds backup and tuneup to the arsenal, which is also run when idle. In performance testing by PCMag, N360v3 seemed even more optimized as it came later and was faster than NIS09 in pretty many cases.

[1timeuserrr]

-{ Quote: "You prefer? It's simply a "typo" by Symantec. Have you even tested N360v3 before stating what you do? N360v3 features the same security features as Norton 2009-edition, but adds backup and tuneup to the arsenal, which is also run when idle. In performance testing by PCMag, N360v3 seemed even more optimized as it came later and was faster than NIS09 in pretty many cases." }-

In one of the companys I work for, they bought 360 (3pc license) and the other PCs have NIS 2009. 360 seems to slow down things. For example when opening IE 7, it takes some seconds more to open than on the PCs with NIS. Also, it takes longer to send emails from Outlook...

My experience is no way as exhaustive as PCMag's but I'm talking about my own experience.

Anyway, my first post was about how 360 didn't have that nice 5-10 minutes updates and Symantec, with it's comparative chart, says so. Probaly a typo as you say.

[raven211]

-{ Quote: "In one of the companys I work for, they bought 360 (3pc license) and the other PCs have NIS 2009. 360 seems to slow down things. For example when opening IE 7, it takes some seconds more to open than on the PCs with NIS. Also, it takes longer to send emails from Outlook...

My experience is no way as exhaustive as PCMag's but I'm talking about my own experience.

Anyway, my first post was about how 360 didn't have that nice 5-10 minutes updates and Symantec, with it's comparative chart, says so. Probaly a typo as you say." }-

Yeah, it does make sense that it would use more resources as it incl. more, but still not as those things that are additional are supposedly only run when you're idle. I guess that's why PCMag often got even faster results with N360v3 compared to NIS09 as it came later and probably therefore even more optimized as I mentioned before.

If you want, I can link you to that page in the review and you can see what was measured to be faster in comparison.

Did the company run NIS09 prior to the 2009.5 update (16.5)? If so, I wouldn't be surprised N360 was slower in the browsing case as it from first final release incl. the final version of Safe Web. Safe Web came in the 2009.5 update for NIS09. Dunno about the mail, though... My guess is that it's because software works differently on all systems and configurations - cause that's simply how it's.

[zfactor]

-{ Quote: "So why post that here?

Anyway, trialling v3 here and am v impressed - as I was with NIS2009 but had to uninstall after moving to 64-bit and losing SONAR etc." }-

the new version of nis2009 has 64bit support now

[matt547]

-{ Quote: "Yeah, it does make sense that it would use more resources as it incl. more, but still not as those things that are additional are supposedly only run when you're idle. I guess that's why PCMag often got even faster results with N360v3 compared to NIS09 as it came later and probably therefore even more optimized as I mentioned before.

If you want, I can link you to that page in the review and you can see what was measured to be faster in comparison.

Did the company run NIS09 prior to the 2009.5 update (16.5)? If so, I wouldn't be surprised N360 was slower in the browsing case as it from first final release incl. the final version of Safe Web. Safe Web came in the 2009.5 update for NIS09. Dunno about the mail, though... My guess is that it's because software works differently on all systems and configurations - cause that's simply how it's." }-

Hi,
I have always used NIS in the past but was cheeper to buy N360 v2 at the time so am running that currently and it is time to purchase a new copy, im looking at either NIS2009 premium which has the pc tune up tools but doesnt have the backup faclilty but can use windows backup anyway or N360 v3, which one has the best performance overall so security performance and speed so which is less resource hugry or isnt there very much difference at all.

Cheers matt

[Kerodo]

-{ Quote: "Hi,
I have always used NIS in the past but was cheeper to buy N360 v2 at the time so am running that currently and it is time to purchase a new copy, im looking at either NIS2009 premium which has the pc tune up tools but doesnt have the backup faclilty but can use windows backup anyway or N360 v3, which one has the best performance overall so security performance and speed so which is less resource hugry or isnt there very much difference at all.

Cheers matt" }-
I don't think there would be much difference in that department between NIS and N360. The only thing I can think of is perhaps N360 will have a resident scheduler going to startup the backup and other tune up type processes when needed, and maybe NIS wouldn't have this going. Aside from that, the 2 are probably identical, both have AV and firewall. I have N360 v3 and I can say that it is quite remarkable and light now. A huge improvement over v2. I would say just go with whichever one has the features you want.

[Victek123]

-{ Quote: "I don't think there would be much difference in that department between NIS and N360. The only thing I can think of is perhaps N360 will have a resident scheduler going to startup the backup and other tune up type processes when needed, and maybe NIS wouldn't have this going. Aside from that, the 2 are probably identical, both have AV and firewall. I have N360 v3 and I can say that it is quite remarkable and light now. A huge improvement over v2. I would say just go with whichever one has the features you want." }-
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There's a big difference between NIS and N360 in terms of the UI. If that's important to you then you could run the NIS trial and see how you like it (the UI in N360 v3 seems exactly the same as v2).

[CountryGuy]

I actually prefer the N360 interface, but to each their own for certain!

As for pulse updates, it definitely has them - I get multiple updates an hour (except weekends, they might take a couple hours between updates then).

[Kerodo]

Yep, same here.... I think N360 has a nice interface....

[Ade 1]

-{ Quote: "the new version of nis2009 has 64bit support now" }-

Thanks - I reinstalled NIS2009 after 16.5 update and everything's working fully with x64.

[Crappopotamus]

-{ Quote: "Thanks - I reinstalled NIS2009 after 16.5 update and everything's working fully with x64." }-


I had the link at one time, where on the symantec site can you go to d/l the newest versions of their products if you already have a key? I've been looking for about 15 minutes now and can only find trialware, but I know I've seen a link here somewhere to grab newer versions without waiting for liveupdate to send it out.

[Siro]

Been using since it was released and found it to be very speedy and very less hungry on system resources.Overall till now the experience has been very good and I hope it remains the same.

[Dark_Hanzo]

I prefer nis2009 gui more than n360. I've tried n360 for couple of days but I wasn't impressed. Also I had some problems with its backup thing, it kept hanging and the gui was unresponsive in some occasions. I think I'm sticking with nis2009 for now since I've already renewed my license for another year.

[CountryGuy]

-{ Quote: "I prefer nis2009 gui more than n360. I've tried n360 for couple of days but I wasn't impressed. Also I had some problems with its backup thing, it kept hanging and the gui was unresponsive in some occasions. I think I'm sticking with nis2009 for now since I've already renewed my license for another year." }-

Nothing really does work for everyone, wow... I believe you, but I've never had a problem with backup myself. That's part of why I like it: It just... Works. All of it. I'm not a security guy by profession, so while I want to keep informed, I don't want to spend my PC time worrying about it.

But yeah... If the backup isn't working, you're better off just using NIS... Never mind that leaves you worrying what ELSE isnt working!

[Siro]

Same here been using Norton 360 since a year and a half or so and had no problems whatsoever.