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Kees1958
January 25th, 2009, 03:42 PM
Dear all,

I finally got internet protection working with GeSWall (2.8.3. still dumps when testing Comodo Leak Tests running untrusted).

Pitty the untrusted file control issue is not solved yet. But GW also has advantages.

Currently running GeSWall in high protection, disabled all the warnings, set protection to auto terminate.

Am using Chrome with the following extra rules (GW default rules let Chrome function properly)


D:\ File Read Only [this is my data partition]
D:\Downloads File Allow [this is my download directory withing Chrome]
D:\TEMP File Allow [this is my default Temporary directory withing Windows]
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ Registry Redirect [virtualise all HKU keys!]
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Google Registry Allow [to save settings]

Other extra's
C:\WINDOWS\system32\USB001 File Allow [to solve printing problems, beter than redirecting or allowing named pipe lssas]
* Network Allow [to grant Chrome internet Access]

So now I am browsing using Chrome's internal sandbox (of the rendering engine) and I am tightening access to data and registry of Chrome on top of that.

==> Registry is virtualised
==> Only file access allowed to D:\Downloads and temp directory



GeSWall tip
Note (this extra is provided by DefenseWall out of the box):
- I have set my Outlook Express directories containing the (*.dbx files) emails to confidential and allowed Outlook Access full access rights
- same for WAB (Windows Address Book)

==> other untrused processes are not allowed to access my e-mail and addresses


I run this together with Avira (smart list check at write only) and Online Armor (firewall de-installed, because I am behind FW/Router, also the allow when unknow program runs disabled) in Dutch (free version). Oasrv uses a lotmore CPU compared to Malware Defender, but like the way OA dealt with latest worm (thanks to Aigle's post). EDIT, added all those HKU registr entries as confidential (plus added the last one to Outlook Express to allow), entries mentioned in http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1392138&postcount=220

Crispy and Safe setup (with only GeSWall and Avira write check)

Cheers

aigle
January 25th, 2009, 04:40 PM
Hmmm... seems you have a lot of time( n knowledg) to play with all this.:thumb: ;D

Kees1958
January 25th, 2009, 04:59 PM
-{ Quote: "Hmmm... seems you have a lot of time( n knowledg) to play with all this.:thumb: ;D" }-

Well time is relative. Others spend two hours browsing the internet doing all the fun stuff (e.g. wife ordering a flight to friends). I spend those two hours busting my PC and when succesfull, looking for a different setup. I agreed with your critism on Comodo, Malware Defender sort of gave teh same message, that i swhy I looked further (so you are to blame really :o )

Keep those malware test posting, I appreciate them :thumb:

Henk1956
January 25th, 2009, 05:24 PM
Just a note:

Isolated applications will not be able to change or add anything to the registry (default is that every operation with the registry is virtualised for isolated apps).

So, the rule
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ Registry Redirect [virtualise all HKU keys!]
is redundant.


An extension to your Geswall tip for Outlook Express:
If you want to be able to use Send Link/Page by email in IE (without giving IE access to your Inbox, etc.) add the rules noted at the last post in: http://gentlesecurity.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=256

aigle
January 25th, 2009, 06:21 PM
-{ Quote: "Keep those malware test posting, I appreciate them :thumb:" }-

Thanks. I love to do that but keep such type of clever malware coming out in the wild. ;D

Kees1958
January 26th, 2009, 05:23 PM
Henk1956 (jee wat ben jij oud van 1956 zeg :-)

I see it in the logs, HKU is virtualised, I thought GeSWall virtualised only HKLM.

Any idea why the rule below is included in the default rules of GW?

%ANYHKU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders\Startup% Deny Create

(all users and current user, so when it virtualises why a deny create?, that is why I thought HKLM was virrtualised only)

Cheers Kees

Running just GW and Avira with check at write, rediculess low system impact <after 1.5 hour browsing < 3 secs total CPU of the combined security aps, together 100MB data read, 80% of the CPU load is of Avira).

Henk1956
January 27th, 2009, 02:50 PM
Hi Kees,

If you look careful you will see that

%ANYHKU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders\Startup% Deny Create

has type: file.

The % signs mean that the actual folder is obtained from the registry.