Zemana Update 1.7.2.935 Janurary 17th 2009 [Archive]

djohn

January 17th, 2009, 01:34 PM

-{ Quote: "what exactly does antilogger do? is it like keyscrambler? or is it more like a HIPS
?" }-
Proactive Hips.Light, Fast, effective.

firzen771

January 17th, 2009, 01:35 PM

does it specifically ONLY target keyloggers with its "proactive HIPS"? or will it protect ur system from more than just that?

djohn

January 17th, 2009, 01:42 PM

No, it covers all forms of malware with its monitor of your system with its system Defenses.

firzen771

January 17th, 2009, 01:48 PM

ty very much for the info, seems like a very nice program, has anyone here or any other tests been done against it?

djohn

January 17th, 2009, 01:54 PM

-{ Quote: "ty very much for the info, seems like a very nice program, has anyone here or any other tests been done against it?" }-
Just a Test but it passes all the ALKT test perfectly. most do not pass that test 100 percent Zemana Does.Here another screenie of rules.

jmonge

January 17th, 2009, 02:04 PM

they didnt add the firewall yet???

djohn

January 17th, 2009, 02:10 PM

No In fact I can not find what the updates consist of,the GUI is the same.Sorry friend No wall

jmonge

January 17th, 2009, 02:12 PM

-{ Quote: "No In fact I can not find what the updates consist of,the GUI is the same.Sorry friend No wall" }-i guez i have to wait;D thanks john:thumb:

firzen771

January 17th, 2009, 09:05 PM

quick question, if i use CIS, wouldn't that cover all the same areas as Zemana + more? so wouldnt having both running kinda be overlap?

capatt

January 17th, 2009, 09:27 PM

This is the first I've heard of Zemana. How much memory does it use and how many services are running? Are there any known conflicts?

djohn

January 17th, 2009, 10:01 PM

-{ Quote: "This is the first I've heard of Zemana. How much memory does it use and how many services are running? Are there any known conflicts?" }-
Just check the 1 process running is at 32,900 K its lite on my system.Why I was there I just noticed Opera browser over 45,000K not relevant though.Any How the Not compatible are the following according to Zemana,as far as Antivirus goes. Esafe, Ikarus, QuickHeal.

djohn

January 17th, 2009, 10:22 PM

-{ Quote: "quick question, if i use CIS, wouldn't that cover all the same areas as Zemana + more? so wouldnt having both running kinda be overlap?" }-
Sorry stepped away for a while. IMO you should be good with comodos proactive.You can try testing it against the AKLT (Anti KeyLogger Test)see How it does.http://www.firewallleaktester.com Look for the keylogger test.

firzen771

January 17th, 2009, 11:20 PM

wow, antilogger failed msot of the AKLT keylogger tests while comodo only failed 1, the screenshot 2. ill stick with just comodo for now. but another thing that disturbs me is how ineffective Mamutu is towards keylogging... they def need to improve on that.

djohn

January 17th, 2009, 11:41 PM

Are you serious it past all for me with last version.Going to try it again.

firzen771

January 17th, 2009, 11:49 PM

i dunno, with AKLT ver.3 (newest one posted on that site) antilogger only passed 2 tests, didnt do anything about the rest :/ comodo was the only thing that said anything about these tests, Mamtu was quiet as a mouse as well, so seems like keylogging is Mamutu's weak point, although it excels at other things so ill let comodo handle the keyloggers ;D

djohn

January 18th, 2009, 12:01 AM

I just tested again with AKLT 3.0 warns on every one.After each one I have to delete the rule for each test or no pop up will occur.I am not sure why each rule for each test has to be deleted before proceeding for each test,perhaps because it the from the same test.

djohn

January 18th, 2009, 12:09 AM

-{ Quote: "i dunno, with AKLT ver.3 (newest one posted on that site) antilogger only passed 2 tests, didnt do anything about the rest :/ comodo was the only thing that said anything about these tests, Mamtu was quiet as a mouse as well, so seems like keylogging is Mamutu's weak point, although it excels at other things so ill let comodo handle the keyloggers ;D" }-
Ah I just figured it out after the test if you creat a rule on the pop up to block it blocks them there after automatically with no user intervention required.If check your event logs you should the blocks that equal the number of test or the main Gui show total blocks. pass 100 percent here

capatt

January 18th, 2009, 06:31 PM

After a further look, Zemana seems interesting, but expensive for a one-trick pony. I do have some more questions, though:

1. Are there any independent reviews? Their home page says it was a PC World Editor's Choice, but no link is provided. Googling finds no such reference. Fishy?

2. The RAM footprint seems heavy. What about CPU usage?

3. When installed, does it require a reboot?

4. Any other observations from experienced users?

Thanks

firzen771

January 18th, 2009, 07:15 PM

-{ Quote: "After a further look, Zemana seems interesting, but expensive for a one-trick pony. I do have some more questions, though:

1. Are there any independent reviews? Their home page says it was a PC World Editor's Choice, but no link is provided. Googling finds no such reference. Fishy? Not sure

2. The RAM footprint seems heavy. What about CPU usage? RAM usage isnt that bad, considering it goes max up to 30mb and there is ONLY 1 process for it

3. When installed, does it require a reboot? yes it does, but ud be hard pressed finidng a security app that doesn't... and why is this a prob anyways?

4. Any other observations from experienced users?

Thanks" }-

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mvdu

January 18th, 2009, 08:26 PM

-{ Quote: "After a further look, Zemana seems interesting, but expensive for a one-trick pony. I do have some more questions, though:

1. Are there any independent reviews? Their home page says it was a PC World Editor's Choice, but no link is provided. Googling finds no such reference. Fishy?

2. The RAM footprint seems heavy. What about CPU usage?

3. When installed, does it require a reboot?

4. Any other observations from experienced users?

Thanks" }-

Now that I think about it, I sure hope someone finds evidence for that certificate. I wouldn't use it anyway until it gets the firewall and full HIPS they promised.

denniz

January 18th, 2009, 08:36 PM

Would the System Defense part conflict with Mamutu?

Because Mamutu isn't to good with keyloggers, so I was thinking of running both Zemana and Mamutu...

Or should I disable the System Defense part in Zemana?

firzen771

January 18th, 2009, 08:41 PM

-{ Quote: "Would the System Defense part conflict with Mamutu?

Because Mamutu isn't to good with keyloggers, so I was thinking of running both Zemana and Mamutu...

Or should I disable the System Defense part in Zemana?" }-

Mamutu and Antilogger work fine together.

denniz

January 18th, 2009, 08:51 PM

That's nice to know :)

Someone

January 19th, 2009, 01:05 AM

-{ Quote: " but another thing that disturbs me is how ineffective Mamutu is towards keylogging... they def need to improve on that." }-
According to emsisoft, Mamutu is "a pure behavior blocker, made to detect real malware infections." so I would assume that means not detecting tests.

-{ Quote: "Would the System Defense part conflict with Mamutu?" }-
That seems like overkill to me.

firzen771

January 19th, 2009, 07:47 AM

it really isnt that much overkill, when i ran antilogger and Mamutu they usually didn't give a pop-up about the same things, so it worked fine.

Max Zorin

January 19th, 2009, 08:25 AM

I have Zemana along with A2 Pro - which incorporates Mamutu and there are no conflicts as they work in different ways and cover different threats.

I have previously used SSM and prior to that ProcessGuard. They each worked well, but did not pass all the tests as Zemana did. Zemana is quieter as well - many HIPS have lots of alerts, so the user gets in the habit of just clicking on YES to move on - without reading the alert!

AntiLogger does not work with Ikarus, but is fine with the way it is implemented in A2.

MZ