View Full Version : Malware Defender 2.0.0 final is released
xiaolin
January 16th, 2009, 01:34 AM
Thanks for everyone who tested the beta version.
The English version is available for download at http://www.torchsoft.com/download/md_setup.exe
The Spanish version will be available later.
what's new?
- Added network protection.
- Added network ports viewer.
- Added protection against killing processes by setting parent window.
- Added support for displaying command line of process in process manager.
- Added support for displaying the new time when prompting for the "set system time" action.
- Added support for displaying detailed tooltip when moving mouse to the first column in log window.
- Added support for changing all permissions of application rule by clicking one button.
- Added an option to force MD to use fixed driver name.
- Fixed a bug when handling registry value name which contains '\'.
- Fixed a display bug in Alert window.
- Changed not to log actions which are denied by ASK rules in silent mode. This will improve the performance when blocking massive actions.
- Minor improvements and fixes.
rollers
January 16th, 2009, 03:09 AM
Thanks, very quick and progressive work.
xiaolin
January 16th, 2009, 10:12 AM
The Spanish version is available for download now.
http://www.torchsoft.com/download/md_setup_esn.exe
bryanjoe
January 16th, 2009, 10:49 AM
that is fast...... well done...
,.-
January 18th, 2009, 05:18 PM
I installed MD2 final. Thereafter, I started to encrypt a 1 TB Harddrive with Best Crypt Volume Encryption. Because the encryption process takes about 6 hours, I launched MD and ... booom... not a blue screen but an instant black screen...and a reboot.
Whooops.
capatt
January 18th, 2009, 05:57 PM
Hello
I've never heard of Malware Defender before. Are there any available reviews? What is the RAM footprint? Does it employ just user-created rules, or is there a signature based white/blacklist?
Thanks
,.-
January 19th, 2009, 05:54 PM
Unfortunately, I have to report more black screens/violent crashes:
2 times I experienced a black screen when I tried to install the latest Nvidia WHQL driver. MD was in learning mode.
1 time I experienced a black screen when I "powered down" the computer using Windows "start". MD was in learning mode.
1 time I experienced a black screen when I "restarted" the computer using Windows "start". MD was in learning mode.
Following the deinstallation of MD these problems were solved. The Nvidia driver installed without problems. Windows "power down" and "restart" is functional again.
xiaolin
January 19th, 2009, 09:40 PM
-{ Quote: "Unfortunately, I have to report more black screens/violent crashes:
2 times I experienced a black screen when I tried to install the latest Nvidia WHQL driver. MD was in learning mode.
1 time I experienced a black screen when I "powered down" the computer using Windows "start". MD was in learning mode.
1 time I experienced a black screen when I "restarted" the computer using Windows "start". MD was in learning mode.
Following the deinstallation of MD these problems were solved. The Nvidia driver installed without problems. Windows "power down" and "restart" is functional again." }-
Thanks for the bug reports.
Could you send the minidump to me if it happen again? You may need to edit the system settings to generate minidump.
xiaolin
January 19th, 2009, 09:41 PM
-{ Quote: "Hello
I've never heard of Malware Defender before. Are there any available reviews? What is the RAM footprint? Does it employ just user-created rules, or is there a signature based white/blacklist?
Thanks" }-
There is no signature based white/blacklist.
nick s
January 20th, 2009, 01:44 AM
-{ Quote: "2 times I experienced a black screen when I tried to install the latest Nvidia WHQL driver. MD was in learning mode." }-
Just for fun, with MD in learning mode, I upgraded (uninstalling first) to the latest 181.20 WHQL drivers and had no problems. That's on both XP SP3 and Vista SP1. Have you tweaked MD's default rules?
Nick
,.-
January 20th, 2009, 02:41 AM
Update: Following the deinstallation of MD, the computer properly shut down. Initially. Thereafter, I got another black screen. Therefore, I believe that MD is innocent. I will not investigate whether it's Best Crypt Volume Encryption.
xiaolin
January 22nd, 2009, 04:36 AM
English version: http://www.torchsoft.com/download/md_setup.exe
Spanish version: http://www.torchsoft.com/download/md_setup_esn.exe
what's new?
- Fixed a bug that may cause BSOD when network protection is enabled in Windows 2000/2003/XP.
- Added support for closing multiple network connections in a run.
demoneye
January 22nd, 2009, 07:28 AM
version 2.x still gave me 100-90% cpu usage :( no fix for this issue yet :'(
bellgamin
January 22nd, 2009, 08:36 PM
-{ Quote: "version 2.x still gave me 100-90% cpu usage :( no fix for this issue yet :'(" }-Is anyone else having a similar issue?
Not that it obviates demoneye's situation, but MD's cpu use on my computer is <1%.
wat0114
January 22nd, 2009, 09:23 PM
-{ Quote: "Is anyone else having a similar issue?
" }-
Never. As always it runs smooth as silk :)
spidey
January 23rd, 2009, 05:55 PM
-{ Quote: "Is anyone else having a similar issue?" }-
Never had a problem here either.
EASTER
January 24th, 2009, 03:43 AM
This MD started out pretty efficient but with this latest version 2 (final?) it blacksceen me too untill i uninstalled EQS. Driver or SSDT conflict no less. No other HIPS kicks out other HIPS even when they are dormant like EQS was.
Then it plowed my MAMUTU while it was engaged, making it vanish. Then whenever i tried to add a rule the whole darn app locked up the screen.
I'm not complaining because the only alternative was to uninstall it and get it off the PC before worse happened.
I run Avira AV and every other HIPS or other apps works fine together but for some reason MD just pukes out for me, so best of luck for those of you who get this MD working to your expectations. I don't intend to try it again unless it gets made more compatible and i certainly wouldn't pay for an app that's this disruptive and unresponsive.
This was my experience with it. Of course it was something i done wrong right? I disengaged Learning after first reboot as instructed but after that i must have pressed the PC reset button a dozen times to unstall this app, eventually uninstalling it altogether.
The more thats added to apps like these, just like COMODO, the worse they seem to perform AFAIK.
easter
bellgamin
January 24th, 2009, 04:29 AM
-{ Quote: "I run Avira AV" }-I see a LOT of security apps in your signature. Some are in black & some are in red. I *thought* that red print designated the apps that you actually are running whereas the black print designates those that are installed but NOT running. However, on your sig Avira is in black whereas you just stated (as I have quoted) that you run Avira AV. So... what do the red & black letters denote?
In any event, you have a lot of HIPS-type apps listed in your sig: Cyberhawk, EQSecure, Mamutu, Real-time Defender, Process Guard (DiamondCS's relic, I presume?), & Threatfire. Six HIPS-type apps!! I assume you do not run them simultaneously. However -- are they all installed? If so, that's a LOT of hooks in the water IMO.
Anyhow, I'm sorry to hear of your lack of success with MD. I only run two real-time security apps -- MD & Twister. Result: my computer is rock steady & VERY zippy.
Live long & prosper Easter old bean. :thumb:
Fuzzfas
January 24th, 2009, 05:21 AM
-{ Quote: "... However, on your sig Avira is in black whereas you just stated (as I have quoted) that you run Avira AV. So... what do the red & black letters denote? " }-
He probably forgot to change colour to Avira. :P
-{ Quote: "In any event, you have a lot of HIPS-type apps listed in your sig: Cyberhawk, EQSecure, Mamutu, Real-time Defender, Process Guard (DiamondCS's relic, I presume?), & Threatfire. Six HIPS-type apps!! I assume you do not run them simultaneously. However -- are they all installed? If so, that's a LOT of hooks in the water IMO. " }-
LOL! If he runs them all, i am amazed with his luck in absence of conflicts.
BTW, Process Guard may be obsolete today compared with the various modern hips, but it can still be useful and it's probably the easiest hips to understand. It was my first hips, i am sentimental about it. :'( It was great for newbies to come close to the HIPS world!
chris2busy
January 24th, 2009, 06:23 AM
-{ Quote: "This MD started out pretty efficient but with this latest version 2 (final?) it blacksceen me too untill i uninstalled EQS. Driver or SSDT conflict no less. No other HIPS kicks out other HIPS even when they are dormant like EQS was.
Then it plowed my MAMUTU while it was engaged, making it vanish. Then whenever i tried to add a rule the whole darn app locked up the screen.
I'm not complaining because the only alternative was to uninstall it and get it off the PC before worse happened.
I run Avira AV and every other HIPS or other apps works fine together but for some reason MD just pukes out for me, so best of luck for those of you who get this MD working to your expectations. I don't intend to try it again unless it gets made more compatible and i certainly wouldn't pay for an app that's this disruptive and unresponsive.
This was my experience with it. Of course it was something i done wrong right? I disengaged Learning after first reboot as instructed but after that i must have pressed the PC reset button a dozen times to unstall this app, eventually uninstalling it altogether.
The more thats added to apps like these, just like COMODO, the worse they seem to perform AFAIK.
easter" }-
2 H.I.P.S on? :O thats obsurd in the first place :D
I'd like to see how many seatbelts you use on you car seat ;D ;D
EASTER
January 24th, 2009, 07:17 AM
-{ Quote: "2 H.I.P.S on? :O thats obsurd in the first place :D
I'd like to see how many seatbelts you use on you car seat ;D ;D" }-
You got a problrm with that?
Then check this out. ProcessGuard 3.5 + EQSecure + Avira AV + Mamutu = PERFECT COMPATIBILITY!!!
MD kicks away some HIPS and i know why, and where = it's driver composition. But so be it, from the posts i've read it has a long way to go to reach EQS standards irregardless of NETWORK protection which brought SSM down eventually. You can only add so much to a HIPS before it begins to unravel before your eyes. It's a delicate balancing act to NOT cram too much into them all at once.
EASTER
wat0114
January 24th, 2009, 07:54 AM
-{ Quote: " from the posts i've read it has a long way to go to reach EQS standards irregardless of NETWORK protection which brought SSM down eventually." }-
How does MD have a long ways to go?? EQS is an absolutely phneomenal HIPS, to be sure, but MD is isn't exactly chopped liver. It's been clear to me so far that very little escapes MD's sentinel-like defenses. Furthermore, at least it's in English and extremely well supported by its developer.
I would also add I've noticed some of those in this forum using EQS rely on getting their rulesets spoon-fed to them; they are of course powerful rules, but where is the invaluable learning process of trying to figure out things for yourself?
BTW Easter, it was actually your head-over-heels, unbridled enthusiasm over MD in this (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=217522) thread that in no small part influenced me to try MD :) Well, I haven't looked back.
chris2busy
January 24th, 2009, 08:59 AM
-{ Quote: "You got a problrm with that?
Then check this out. ProcessGuard 3.5 + EQSecure + Avira AV + Mamutu = PERFECT COMPATIBILITY!!!
MD kicks away some HIPS and i know why, and where = it's driver composition. But so be it, from the posts i've read it has a long way to go to reach EQS standards irregardless of NETWORK protection which brought SSM down eventually. You can only add so much to a HIPS before it begins to unravel before your eyes. It's a delicate balancing act to NOT cram too much into them all at once.
EASTER" }-
I am sorry :/
But some of the tests i have performed seem to indecate quite the opposite of what you said..
OFC i do not have a problem with that.i like you to be honest,was just teasing ya ;) we r all into this paranoia.
anyway..2 kernel level controllers do not seem so smart idea to me.
Miyagi
January 24th, 2009, 11:45 AM
-{ Quote: "I only run two real-time security apps -- MD & Twister. Result: my computer is rock steady & VERY zippy." }-
That's the best Chinaware in Town! Gung Hay Fat Choy! :thumb:
demoneye
January 24th, 2009, 12:31 PM
-{ Quote: "Is anyone else having a similar issue?
Not that it obviates demoneye's situation, but MD's cpu use on my computer is <1%." }-
yes, BUT after i set it to normal mode it randomly start the 90-100% cpu usage.
i run on same system configuration SSM,CIS, and even RTD perfectly for weeks , no such issue , so i am positive sure ts a rare bug ( but a bug) in MD code
JosephB
January 24th, 2009, 04:51 PM
demoneye,
Noticed in your list that you use Eaz Fix. I have not noticed it listed in the signatures of too many on this forum. So, any chance that Eaz Fix could be conflicting with MD ?
bellgamin
January 24th, 2009, 06:01 PM
-{ Quote: "i run on same system configuration SSM,CIS, and even RTD perfectly for weeks , no such issue..." }-Those 3 are all "hookers" so... are you very very VERY sure that they are all fully & totally uninstalled? No remnants whatsoever?
Meriadoc
January 24th, 2009, 07:32 PM
-{ Quote: "Process Guard - DiamondCS's relic" }-
PG free version is still an assist with its anti exe and logging - I know one member here very active in malware hunting that uses it combined with an autoruns type program.
No problems to report with using MD.
jmonge
January 24th, 2009, 07:41 PM
-{ Quote: "PG free version is still an assist with its anti exe and logging - I know one member here very active in malware hunting that uses it combined with an autoruns type program.
No problems to report with using MD." }-
some times i used them together with no problems;D
demoneye
January 25th, 2009, 03:59 PM
-{ Quote: "demoneye,
Noticed in your list that you use Eaz Fix. I have not noticed it listed in the signatures of too many on this forum. So, any chance that Eaz Fix could be conflicting with MD ?" }-
yes , i did test MD on a clean system(only os xp sp2 + drivers) using VM , same hangs happen :(
demoneye
January 25th, 2009, 04:01 PM
-{ Quote: "Those 3 are all "hookers" so... are you very very VERY sure that they are all fully & totally uninstalled? No remnants whatsoever?" }-
yes , i did test MD on a clean system(only os + drivers) using VM , same hangs happen
also i recall some other dudes in here have same issue...
beside , i know some in other none English one forum got same slow down pc (cpu high usage)...
anyway , some will skip this software because of this issue , most even , never report this , so i do Xilaon (md owner) a big favor insist on this matter to be solved
cheers
JosephB
January 25th, 2009, 05:16 PM
demoneye,
Any chance that it be a conflict with VM ? Have you tried it without VM on the same PC ?
chris2busy
January 25th, 2009, 08:42 PM
It didn't conflict with vm when i trialed it..
but what really pissed me off was that in vista LUA gui did not run >.>
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