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TechOutsider
January 7th, 2009, 05:49 PM
I downloaded a massive archive of malware.

I extracted all of them. Many were blocked by Norton. The ones that were left were uploaded to VT for analysis.

I zipped the leftover files; the files that were deemed clean by Norton even after a selective on-demand scan.

I put 9 files to a .zip; I was going to send them to SSR.

I wound up with 7 archives. Now, that was yesterday.

I ran a full system scan today, out of no particular reason, and Norton came up with several detections of malware inside those archives ...

From my prior experience, SSR takes a long time to process samples. And I have received no e-mail from SSR, except for the tracking #s. It seems like something went wrong here.

So, my question is directed to anyone with internal knowledge at SSR. Were the files I sent in processed within hours and added to the defs? If they were, then kudos. Or are selective on-demand scans different from full-system scans? Does Norton scan deeper with full-system scans?

And I only received 1 heuristic detection ... packed.generic.187. From Symantec's site, the def was last updated on Sept. 24, 2008. Why wasn't Norton able to detect it yesterday, but today?

Woah ... I just scanned the zip again today and this time Norton detected 125 threats; compared to ~30 yesterday.

Hugger
January 7th, 2009, 06:29 PM
Have you contacted Norton about this?
I'd be interested in their response.
Hugger

TechOutsider
January 7th, 2009, 08:11 PM
Chat is for technical issues, and their answers offer no depth. Mostly canned responses. Useful, however not in a case like this.

I've been banned from their forums.

ink
January 7th, 2009, 09:02 PM
There is a details about the updated definitions. you can find it on your computer

TechOutsider
January 7th, 2009, 09:57 PM
Looking at this:

http://www.symantec.com/business/security_response/definitions/rapidrelease/index.jsp

All of the added/modified defs seem to match what Norton detected.

Still doesn't explain the Packed.Generic.XX detection; I am concerned about it.

icr
January 8th, 2009, 02:29 AM
Sorry for off topic question
@ TechOutsider
can u tell me from where did u download those Malware

TechOutsider
January 8th, 2009, 06:09 PM
We are not allowed to share links to malware ;)

C.S.J
January 8th, 2009, 06:12 PM
-{ Quote: "Sorry for off topic question
@ TechOutsider
can u tell me from where did u download those Malware" }-
'archives of malware' contain much (usually over half) of corrupted/inactive/junk malware, and in no way can be relied upon for any form of testing or submission

TechOutsider
January 8th, 2009, 06:28 PM
Only way to find out is to execute them ;)

Bunkhouse Buck
January 9th, 2009, 07:32 AM
-{ Quote: "Only way to find out is to execute them ;)" }-

I agree and then you find out how good your AV is in fact- not based on tests that use varying parameters, samples, etc. It shows you reality.