View Full Version : SSM english version Prolonged til December?
notageek
February 26th, 2004, 07:48 PM
Anyone know's what that means for the program? is it going Shareware after that? Or is it going bye bye for good?
FluxGFX
February 26th, 2004, 07:52 PM
it was extented because it expired earlier then it was supose to and if I'm correct Max is working on the new SSM.
notageek
February 27th, 2004, 08:49 AM
OK I understand that but does this extention mean that the SSM version that's extened won't work after Dec 2004?
FluxGFX
February 27th, 2004, 08:59 AM
It ended in 2003 dec and then was extented to 2004 dec and he's working on the new version I would hope so.
notageek
February 27th, 2004, 09:08 AM
OK I see. Well I still have the 1.9.3 version. LOL Maybe I'll upgrade to 1.9.4
dvk01
February 28th, 2004, 10:44 AM
What's SSM ???
I've never heard of it
have I missed somethin ?
Why
February 28th, 2004, 03:59 PM
Hello,dvk01 & Welcome
Have a look it's one great prog
http://maxcomputing.narod.ru/ssme.html?lang=en
Good luck ;D
Hi,Paul
srfox
March 2nd, 2004, 02:29 AM
-{ Quote: " quoting: dvk01 link=board=20;threadid=22986;start=0#msg136980 date=1077983064]
What's SSM ???
I've never heard of it
have I missed somethin ?
" }-
SSM is a really cool program that monitors registry changes as well as applications. You have to be something of a geek to really use it, but if you read all of the information you can quickly learn how to use it. It is an invaluable tool that has saved my butt on a number of occasions. As it halts DLL injections and other registry changes, it can prevent a hacker from gaining control of your system in the most common ways, that a hack that bypasses the firewall might try in infiltrating your system.
minacross
September 16th, 2004, 02:28 PM
can WinPatrol (http://www.winpatrol.com/winpatrol.html) do the same job?
Hyperion
September 16th, 2004, 03:04 PM
-{ Quote: "can WinPatrol do the same job?" }-
I know for a fact that Win Patrol doesn't detect dll injection.I m not sure if can see registry changes or not.What does for sure is taking snapshots of the system and warns for any changes.But if it is as i understand,it warns you after the infection has occured (unless i m wrong,their site isn't very clear about it). I ve used Win Patrol ,but the interface didn't convince me that was a security tool.It has the running processes and description ,but these are good for newbies,you can do the same job from the task manager or the services.
I ve been using SSM till now,i ve set it to even pop up when a programme starts (i love that feature),but since it ll go shareware,i think i ll pass to Abtrusion Protector.
Infinity
September 16th, 2004, 03:39 PM
to be honest and this is my personal opinion for anybody interested and therefor thank you for being interested ... :D
system safety monitor is quite a nice program. I had it some time running on my machine. And like the biggest part of the users having this, it has saved me quite a lot too.
TILL I purchased Processguard. Still when I think of SSM, I feel good none of the things happend to me, caused ssm to stop working or whatever kernel drive was missing, I didn't miss it at that time. the biggest problem was the steep learning curve. it has quite some features and to be honest imho quite more then PG at that time (don't know about version 3, let's hope parents rights,...) but I felt that they lost it somewhere this program. it wasn't useable for me.
Since I use Processguard it feel like it has all SSM was missing. userfriendly and lets not forget it was the first kernel drive process protection. the last two weeks using SSM caused me numerous bsod's and lockups and none support existing like we know now. SSM is great but... I lost my clue I think.... sorry. ???
optigrab
September 16th, 2004, 03:48 PM
-{ Quote: "... since it ll go shareware,i think i ll pass to Abtrusion Protector." }-
I use both Abtrusion Protector and SSM. Abtrusion Protector does not protect the registry, while the SSM application sandbox didn't work well with BoClean on my box, plus the SSM memory leak was a pain for me too as I typically leave my PC on 24/7. So I've recently only used SSM to protect the registry. I am looking forward to upgrading SSM now, and if meets my needs, I may drop Abtrusion Protector.
dukebluedevil
September 16th, 2004, 07:08 PM
I noticed that there is a new version of SSM out now version 1.9.5.
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=48047
Has anyone here tried it yet? I am curious how stable it is on WinXP.
Thanks!
notageek
September 16th, 2004, 11:33 PM
Duke I tried the new version od SSM on my XP Home Edition and it was stable to a point. When I say to a point I had a little system freeze up when it asked me if I wanted a program to run. The program was a game I got. Anyway that's the only problem I had and I said I'm not going to go through anything that like I did before with SSM. It used freeze up my compter after the screensaver would come on. Plus I got tired of the old SSM forgeting my rules and asking me if I wanted so and so to run when I was learning how to program.
I been using PG for the processes and TeaTimer for the programs that want to add to my start up. I'm not that concerned about my registry now.
minacross
September 17th, 2004, 02:53 AM
does any one still have the last free 1.9.4 b1 version? Could you post a link to it plz?
bigc73542
September 17th, 2004, 03:17 AM
SSM 1.9.4 b1 get it here (http://www.outpostfirewall.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7592) scroll down page.
minacross
September 17th, 2004, 01:55 PM
thanx ;)
dukebluedevil
September 18th, 2004, 06:15 PM
I guess I will hold off for the next version that comes out and try that one in the hopes that by then maybe it will be a little more stable and wont freeze up at all. I tried SSM many years ago on Win98 and thought at the time it looked good and had alot of promise. The only thing back then I didn't like about it was that it wouldn't stop programs from running while you decided to either allow or deny it. It looks like there are some good features in the newer SSM for Win 2000/XP users. I will just be patient and wait I guess. :) Thank you notageek!
notageek
September 18th, 2004, 06:25 PM
You're welcome. I'm not even going to wait for the new one to come out. I'm happy with PG and TeaTimer running.
Paranoid2000
September 18th, 2004, 06:54 PM
-{ Quote: "...I had a little system freeze up when it asked me if I wanted a program to run. The program was a game I got. Anyway that's the only problem I had and I said I'm not going to go through anything that like I did before with SSM." }-If you encounter a problem with the current beta of SSM (1.9.5), please take the time to replicate it with logging enabled (just create a file ssmlog.log in the C:\ folder, SSM will write to it automatically) and send details to the author (DivineGlitch at mail.ru).
Problems can only be fixed if they're reported, and taking the time to help out will benefit other current (and future) SSM users.
bluekey23
September 18th, 2004, 07:18 PM
P2k,
Do you use SSM? If so, which version? Do you have any advice/suggestions for users of SSM? I have PG running, but would be interested in your thoughts.
thanks.
Paranoid2000
September 18th, 2004, 07:29 PM
I'm running the 1.9.5 beta. I'd suggest only trying such betas on non-critical systems since a problem is more likely to result in a system crash or hang. Having said that, known issues in 1.9.5 are being tackled and it offers more improvements than the small increment in version number suggests (aside from being able to run as a service, it can detect driver installations and appears to use far less CPU - a quarter on my system making it slightly more efficient than PG).
To be honest, I don't really know enough about Windows' internals to be able to offer detailed advice on SSM usage aside from the obvious (the need to enable plugins and application activity for it to do its stuff). As for comparing it with PG, there is a lot of overlap but they have different strengths also (PG excels at process protection, SSM offers more granular control - e.g. you can allow program A to be called by B but not by C) so there is benefit to running both.
Jack Black
September 18th, 2004, 08:32 PM
Has anyone heard what SSM1.9.5 will eventually cost in dollars if we want to use it past December?
dukebluedevil
September 18th, 2004, 10:54 PM
From the link I posted previously, here is what SSM had to say:
Visions of the future:
SSM most likely will become shareware soon. Single-user license price will run likely between 20 USD or higher. A free version (with limited functionality) will be still available.
dukebluedevil
September 20th, 2004, 07:15 PM
Another new version of SSM was released today I see.
" ... New version of SSM (1.9.5 beta 2) was released. In this new version some problems identified in previous release were fixed.
* Fixed: "BSOD (attempt to write to read-only memory)"
* Fixed: "System hang on shutdown/logoff"
* Fixed: "Bad logic while handling activity of applications with no permanent rules"
* Fixed: "SSM failed to work with passwords"
* Fixed: "SSM failed to update the activation keystroke setting"
* Fixed: "Some other minor problems"
You need not to uninstall SSM 1.9.5 beta 1 if you have it installed, if you want your settings to be kept. Just install the update to the same folder.
SSM:
http://mc.webm.ru/ssm.zip
(credit goes to mozar who posted this over at the dslreports forum)
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