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PiCo
December 17th, 2008, 10:37 PM
You can find it here (http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/personal/).

It requires 1mb of disk, doesn't create start menu entries, desktop shortcuts, quick launch icons, startup entries, services, tasks in task scheduler, nth..

..but how is it able to start on pc boot?

You can easily uncheck this option in PSI settings, but how is it possible to start on boot from its own?

Appart from that, I find it to be amazing and extremely smooth :)

:thumb:

CubonesCastle
December 17th, 2008, 11:44 PM
To me its useless, I generally keep my stuff up-to-date, Anyone who dosent However, FOR SHAME.

dw426
December 17th, 2008, 11:57 PM
-{ Quote: "To me its useless, I generally keep my stuff up-to-date, Anyone who dosent However, FOR SHAME." }-

I wouldn't call it useless. You have to remember that it's not just about Windows updates, virus, and spyware definitions, it's about EVERY app installed on your system, security or not. It's not as straightforward keeping up with your alternative PDF readers, media players, and the like. Most of these types of apps don't have built-in updaters, so if you don't see any warnings on a well-known website or get emails from developers, you may never know there's a problem with the version of the app you have.

We here at Wilders have each other and know where to find this kind of information, the majority do not. If it isn't on a news/computer website, they're oblivious.

innerpeace
December 18th, 2008, 12:25 AM
I need all the help I can get keeping programs up to date. Java, flash, browsers, IM's, media players, etc. are constantly getting updated and Secunia makes it a little easier to keep track of everything. Granted using Sandboxie helps a lot where I don't worry as much as I used to but IMHO, running an vulnerable program and getting infected is equal to clicking on an infected .exe myself. Not a good idea in either case.

lordpake
December 18th, 2008, 07:13 AM
My only gripe with PSI is that it doesn't close the app when hitting 'X', it minimizes it. You have to manually exit it via tray icon.

Is it that difficult for them to follow mainstream behaviour, hmm?


Otherwise great little app, it's getting difficult to keep up with all the vulnerable apps if one wishes to keep his PC fully patched.

PiCo
December 18th, 2008, 07:54 AM
It warned me about an IE vulnarability and a Flash player I had installed, but my main question still stands..

..with no task, no startup entry, no service, how does it start on boot?

Driver or sth?

swami
December 18th, 2008, 09:37 AM
Startup User: psi.exe

PiCo
December 18th, 2008, 11:46 AM
-{ Quote: "Startup User: psi.exe" }-This is weird, I can't find anything by browsing the registry, in startup folder, in tasks, in services, winpatrol doesn't notify me of anything and I don't see anything with msconfig.exe.

It's not sth of major importance, I just feel stupid about it.

edit://Wow! Found it! It was in task scheduler, seem I hadn't searched good enough!

Tarq57
December 18th, 2008, 05:44 PM
-{ Quote: "I need all the help I can get keeping programs up to date. Java, flash, browsers, IM's, media players, etc. are constantly getting updated and Secunia makes it a little easier to keep track of everything. Granted using Sandboxie helps a lot where I don't worry as much as I used to but IMHO, running an vulnerable program and getting infected is equal to clicking on an infected .exe myself. Not a good idea in either case." }-
Agree completely.
There is a noticeable usage of CPU when PSI does its weekly full scans, aside from that there is no noticeable performance hit. I have it run on boot, and thereafter. Monitors quite a large database of programs.

CubonesCastle
December 18th, 2008, 06:42 PM
I guess i'm just an oddball and keep up with my reaserch too much xD

Long View
December 20th, 2008, 04:42 AM
My guess is that if installed on 99% plus of computers Secunia PSI would find something to patch. Have just tried this on a client pc and found 2 programs in need of an update. I doubt if the user is anal enough to want to constantky monitor 42 programs. I would take this program over AV/AS and HIP anyday

Tarq57
December 20th, 2008, 05:40 AM
Don't think it needs to be an "either or", there though, Longview. ;)

crofttk
December 20th, 2008, 10:56 AM
-{ Quote: "This is weird, I can't find anything by browsing the registry, in startup folder, in tasks, in services, winpatrol doesn't notify me of anything and I don't see anything with msconfig.exe.

It's not sth of major importance, I just feel stupid about it.

edit://Wow! Found it! It was in task scheduler, seem I hadn't searched good enough!" }-Mmmmm, it's in my starup folder. Don't see anything in task scheduler. Win XP SP3.
???

lordpake
December 20th, 2008, 10:17 PM
Yup, it adds itself to Startup folder, I got prompts about it from AnVir the moment I select that option.

Long View
December 21st, 2008, 04:16 AM
Turn interface mode to Advanced. Go to settings. Uncheck Start the Secunia PSI on boot and now notrhing in start and Secunia will not protect from changes and just run on manual.

PiCo
December 21st, 2008, 01:24 PM
Maybe it's because I'm on Vista.
There's a task in Task Scheduler which starts psi.exe with user log on!

It must be different in XP.

Anyways I'll say it again. Awesome little application :argh:
It seems it doesn't let anything slip away.

crofttk
December 21st, 2008, 02:38 PM
-{ Quote: "Maybe it's because I'm on Vista..." }-Ah, that's probbably the ticket. Indeed, I try to keep up on 6 home networked systems and I find PSI almost indispensable for assuring that I have all up to date.