Ghost Security Closed on Wilders

[G1111]

Sorry to see the forum close. I tried E-Mailing Jason recently through his website, but no response. It would be nice to at least hear from him what happened. After 9 months since the last beta it looks like there will be no further development.

[EASTER]

I blame Vista for all these security closures and other security soft mergers and acquisitions. Would like to have seen Longhorn = vista wait another twelve years for release and just use service packs, but that's Microsoft's Rule of the road. Developers play their way or it costs 'em.

EASTER

[chris2busy]

-{ Quote: "I blame Vista for all these security closures and other security soft mergers and acquisitions. Would like to have seen Longhorn = vista wait another twelve years for release and just use service packs, but that's Microsoft's Rule of the road. Developers play their way or it costs 'em.

EASTER" }-
Hey c'mon :P XP if you consider that with XP you had to wait 3 years to get a (OS built in) firewall so that you wouldn't just float on the net,vista really made a difference in security.If devs cannot make a "few" changes to fit an OS that has still the same core (NT),well...Besides,others work solo and do great in all win types.(cough eqs,OA,sbie)..
x64 is still a black spot though...

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "I blame Vista for all these security closures and other security soft mergers and acquisitions. Would like to have seen Longhorn = vista wait another twelve years for release and just use service packs, but that's Microsoft's Rule of the road. Developers play their way or it costs 'em.

EASTER" }-

I kinda don't think Vista applies in this case. From the last few posts in that forum, it looks like yet another "1-man show" calling it a day. This kind of thing is going to happen as long as there is competition out there that has more than 1-2 people working on it that are there just for developing that product. All it takes is someone coming out with something better than your product and it's over for you, unless you devote your time, energy, and, often money. What would happen if a company/person came to the table with a fantastic DefenseWall-type app? Ilya would of course have to watch the company/person like a hawk to make sure Defensewall wasn't getting left in the dust. If Ilya didn't have the time and resources to keep up, goodbye Defensewall.

I don't like the way Ghost was just "left", but, that is how he saw fit to do it it seems so far, and we can't do a thing about it. But it isn't Vista's fault, by now developers have had PLENTY of time to work through Vista's complications, and, if Vista is secure ENOUGH to leave out one or two less apps, thank MS instead of blaming it for the downfall of security companies.

[demoneye]

welp , i don't really care loll , there products never been good , say it direct , very old look , and very useless compare to market software , no wounder they themselves dump this crap behind and moved on ;D

[Osaban]

-{ Quote: "I blame Vista for all these security closures and other security soft mergers and acquisitions. Would like to have seen Longhorn = vista wait another twelve years for release and just use service packs, but that's Microsoft's Rule of the road. Developers play their way or it costs 'em.

EASTER" }-

Easter, your crusade against Vista doesn't seem to have an end. Perhaps we should start using a notorious term, you are really an XP fundamentalist!

On a more serious note, I think the advent of new and more efficient antimalware programs have killed the old guard. I still find it rude and unacceptable the way some of these people pull out of their business without a word. Imagine what would happen if Bill Gates decided to close shop all of sudden like Jason or Wayne.

[EASTER]

Enjoy your masked Longhorn O/S for all it's worth. I already exceeded my displeasure so no need to continue to point out the obvious.

[chris2busy]

-{ Quote: "Enjoy your masked Longhorn O/S for all it's worth. I already exceeded my displeasure so no need to continue to point out the obvious." }-
Well..the only flaw i saw in the picture so far is that it is based on 2005+ mainstream hardware.If you are running on lower yea,its not an option for you.

[Bovisa]

-{ Quote: "Sorry to see the forum close. I tried E-Mailing Jason recently through his website, but no response. It would be nice to at least hear from him what happened. After 9 months since the last beta it looks like there will be no further development." }-
This thing is very weird. I thought the development took a leap. I mean, the apps he was developing came closer to perfection. So why did he stop? I am really disappointed. Man, this is a rude business

[jmonge]

one thing i can say is that people are humans and with alot of mistakes and who knows what happen maybe family problems or financial problems or for what ever reason the application is gone but remember some thing family comes first;)

[Fuzzfas]

Is it just closed on Wilders or is it closed for good? I went to the site and if you click "purchase" you are sent to a normal form with payment options, etc. So, probably they still sell the products? ???

[ambient_88]

-{ Quote: "Is it just closed on Wilders or is it closed for good? I went to the site and if you click "purchase" you are sent to a normal form with payment options, etc. So, probably they still sell the products? ???" }-
Wilders closed their forum because the developers have not been active recently. I guess they still their products, but don't count on future upgrades/bugfixes.

[LoneWolf]

-{ Quote: " but don't count on future upgrades/bugfixes." }-

Or support. :thumbd:

[beethoven]

Strangely enough I have just received update notifications via the inbuilt updater for Ghost Security Suite 1.01 (basically running Regdefend).

[Bovisa]

Oh come-on!
Which app is there to replace Jason's magnificent AppDefend, that's efficiently programmed, and effective - it just does the job as its supposed to. I don't like ProcessGuard - which is also quite bulky. Once I got in trouble with PG, when I had added to many programs. I got error's when running EXE's.

Jason was a very good, seasoned programmer, but now he left which is really frustrating.
I don't know how Jason can ever let down this. He spend a real amount of time in this whole business. :'(

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "Oh come-on!
Which app is there to replace Jason's magnificent AppDefend, that's efficiently programmed, and effective - it just does the job as its supposed to. I don't like ProcessGuard - which is also quite bulky. Once I got in trouble with PG, when I had added to many programs. I got error's when running EXE's.

I don't like the BIG advertised commercial program's out there, that are in a segment of the market, that are used massively. I always preferred the very personal approach here on Wilders Security, and I always will. Nobody beats these programmers hanging on Wilders. Jason was a very good, seasoned programmer, but now he left which is really frustrating. Please get him back guys, I was just about to buy his program, when it was close to perfection. I was just tracking the development. But now, what can I do? I can't buy, because there are no future upgrades/development. I don't know how Jason can ever let down this. He spend a real amount of time in this whole business. :'(" }-did you tried malware defender?it may be a alternative for appdefend;) it also has network protection too

[Bovisa]

-{ Quote: "did you tried malware defender?it may be a alternative for appdefend;) it also has network protection too" }-
Haven't tried, but I see that it is HIPS + firewall, and I already have Look n stop as my preferred firewall. I'm searching for an efficient HIPs only.

Man, I just love the name Ghost Security. I think it's just fun, besides I like the paranormal. I know that when we die we become a ghost. I don't know if others of you are into spiritualism also? The soul is immortal.
Maybe Jason is also fascinated by this subject, hence the name 'Ghost Security'. I think he's right, because the program was so light, that you won't notice it running and thereby giving really subtle/transparant protection.

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "Haven't tried, but I see that it is HIPS + firewall, and I already have Look n stop as my preferred firewall. I'm searching for an efficient HIPs only.

Man, I just love the name Ghost Security. I think it's just fun, besides I like the paranormal. I know that when we die we become a ghost. I don't know if others of you are into spiritualism also? The soul is immortal.
Maybe Jason is also fascinated by this subject, hence the name 'Ghost Security'. I think he's right, because the program was so light, that you won't notice it running and thereby giving really subtle/transparant protection." }-i remenber i once tried the ghoswall firewall and it looks scarry too;D :)

[GES/POR]

-{ Quote: " I don't know if others of you are into spiritualism also? The soul is immortal.
" }-

I believe that when i die i will join the shadowmen 8)

[progress]

RegDefend was a light tool with a nice GUI. Rest in peace Ghost Security ... ::)

[xtree]

-{ Quote: "Haven't tried, but I see that it is HIPS + firewall, and I already have Look n stop as my preferred firewall. I'm searching for an efficient HIPs only.

Man, I just love the name Ghost Security. I think it's just fun, besides I like the paranormal. I know that when we die we become a ghost. I don't know if others of you are into spiritualism also? The soul is immortal.
Maybe Jason is also fascinated by this subject, hence the name 'Ghost Security'. I think he's right, because the program was so light, that you won't notice it running and thereby giving really subtle/transparant protection." }-

Hi Bovisa,

Here is a quote from Jason at ghostsecurity.com:

'A lot of people ask us why we chose such an odd name for a software security company. After all, except in a few cases, ghosts are looked upon in a negative way. The reason stems mostly from the attributes most people associate with ghosts....

That is that they are rarely seen and they are transparent. Security software on a computer should do it's job without needing constant attention (rarely seen) and it should not impact system performance in any noticeable way (transparent). These are the goals we strive for at Ghost Security.'

I perfectly agree with you. It's a pity that GS has gone down.

[simmikie]

-{ Quote: "This thing is very weird. I thought the development took a leap. I mean, the apps he was developing came closer to perfection. So why did he stop? I am really disappointed. Man, this is a rude business" }-

i don't know the guy, or his circumstances, but if i had to gues, i would say, exhaustion, and the sheer sense of being overwhelmed.

i mean, here you are, coding day and night, compiling, decompiling, debugging til your mind is numb, you look up, and there is Comodo D+ with its army of 200+ developers, it does everyting yours does and more, and the bleeding thing is FREE! then in come marching the Chinese, while theirs is not free, in 6 months it has developed more of a following, than you have in 6 years! the Russians throw Outpost Pro 2009 with it's HIPS, and a converted rocket scientist at you, who designed a HIPS with no pop-ups. the Brits drop a HIPS/BB/AV contraption on your head that does everything from the heavens...if i were Jason, i would have flung myself off a bridge long before now! :blink:


Mike


Mike

[EASTER]

-{ Quote: "I blame Vista for all these security closures and other security soft mergers and acquisitions. Would like to have seen Longhorn = vista wait another twelve years for release and just use service packs, but that's Microsoft's Rule of the road. Developers play their way or it costs 'em.

EASTER" }-

Afraid of the truth?

You know well but won't admit if not for Vista vendors would be reaping deserving profits and not bogged down with problems and resources to fit vista which is ruining windows reputation and losing partnerships with MS.

MS is horribly run.

[Eice]

-{ Quote: "Afraid of the truth?

You know well but won't admit if not for Vista vendors would be reaping deserving profits and not bogged down with problems and resources to fit vista which is ruining windows reputation and losing partnerships with MS.

MS is horribly run." }-
I say let's focus on the issue at hand instead of turning it into yet another weak excuse to mindlessly bash MS.

[jrmhng]

-{ Quote: "Hey c'mon :P XP if you consider that with XP you had to wait 3 years to get a (OS built in) firewall so that you wouldn't just float on the net,vista really made a difference in security" }-

Firewall was there...just took 3 years for them to turn the damn thing on! :P

-{ Quote: "Afraid of the truth?

You know well but won't admit if not for Vista vendors would be reaping deserving profits and not bogged down with problems and resources to fit vista which is ruining windows reputation and losing partnerships with MS.

MS is horribly run." }-

You forget, if it wasn't for MS, developers would still have to develop choose a particular architecture and its associated OS to program for. MS has made its contribution to computing.

[chris2busy]

Yes :D it helped the linux guys google the word GUI and now we actualy have some apps with it to work with :)

[Owen]

-{ Quote: "RegDefend was a light tool with a nice GUI." }-
Is there any alternative to Regdefend that is also lightweight but gets the job done?

[Someone]

-{ Quote: "Is there any alternative to Regdefend that is also lightweight but gets the job done?" }-
I've heard RegProt (http://tds.diamondcs.com.au/freeutilities/regprot.php) is pretty good.

[topmoxie]

It is very bad when people online trust someone to come thru, it is unfortunate that these people have no recourse, What Jason did is nothing but thieving. and it is unfortunate for all including him, he had a good product and a lot of people who liked it. It is also unfornate that his site is still up and he is probably still taking money and not working at anything.

[Kees1958]

-{ Quote: "Is there any alternative to Regdefend that is also lightweight but gets the job done?" }-

EQS free set to watch the registry only will do fine, same functionality as regdefend, works only faster (less CPU overhead)

[G1111]

-{ Quote: "It is very bad when people online trust someone to come thru, it is unfortunate that these people have no recourse, What Jason did is nothing but thieving. and it is unfortunate for all including him, he had a good product and a lot of people who liked it. It is also unfornate that his site is still up and he is probably still taking money and not working at anything." }-

I would not call it thieving, the program still works. I am still using both AppDefend & RegDefend (last beta). They still work fine on my machine. I am just hoping Jason comes back and continues their development at some point.

[wat0114]

-{ Quote: "I would not call it thieving..." }-

Well, then what should it be called? Misleading advertising maybe? If Jason comes back to continue updating and Wilders continues to host them, which they clearly and rightly so are not doing atm, then okay, we can maybe cut him some slack, otherwise it's shady at best.

[G1111]

-{ Quote: "Well, then what should it be called? Misleading advertising maybe? If Jason comes back to continue updating and Wilders continues to host them, which they clearly and rightly so are not doing atm, then okay, we can maybe cut him some slack, otherwise it's shady at best." }-

It would have been better if he made some statement here what happened rather than one day just stop posting and vanish. The website still appears to be functional. I got an automatic response back to my request for a forgotten password. I am assuming if you pay you will get a working version of AppDefend or RegDefend. My guess is there is no longer any customer support though. Anyhow I have not lost all hope for AppDefend/RegDefend and hope at some point the product(s) are continued.

[Joeythedude]

Lifetime upgrade policy does not mean that a company will keep coming out with new versions ::)
And security software products have a very limited life-span. Take a look through wilders to see what was discussed a few years ago.
Few of those products are still being developed.

[wat0114]

-{ Quote: "Lifetime upgrade policy does not mean that a company will keep coming out with new versions ::)
." }-

Then the developer should update the site to reflect the change in policy or remove it altogether. The fact is the site gives the distinct impression to potential first-time buyers, those who are unaware of the inactivity that's occurred over the last year or so, that the product is still being actively developed.