Comodo or Zone Alarm free?

[jmonge]

ok i need some firewall that works good with defensewall untill i get my outbound protection for defensewall hips:thumb: now which firewall will work good and not slow down my pc?comodo or zone alarm?any recomendations will be very apreciated.any experience,thanks in advance:thumb:
note:i also have mamutu any conflicts?

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "ok i need some firewall that works good with defensewall untill i get my outbound protection for defensewall hips:thumb: now which firewall will work good and not slow down my pc?comodo or zone alarm?any recomendations will be very apreciated.any experience,thanks in advance:thumb:
note:i also have mamutu any conflicts?" }-

I think both would give good enough protection. If you need more control, Comodo with D+, but just for solid, simple protection, I've never had a problem with Zone Alarm (uninstall issues aside).

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "I think both would give good enough protection. If you need more control, Comodo with D+, but just for solid, simple protection, I've never had a problem with Zone Alarm (uninstall issues aside)." }-thanks:thumb: did you experience any slow down?thanks

[dw426]

-{ Quote: "thanks:thumb: did you experience any slow down?thanks" }-

I didn't have any slowdown whatsoever with either product. I can't say whether either conflicts with Mamatu since I haven't yet had either firewall coupled with it.

[Someone]

I think you don't need either one of them. Considering u have DefenseWall + Mamutu.

[cp4eva]

-{ Quote: "I think you don't need either one of them. Considering u have DefenseWall + Mamutu." }-

I would agree.

[Makav3l1]

You can also throw PC Tools FW in there if you're looking for a nice free fw that has negligible slowdown.

[3xist]

Hi Guys.

You can use Comodo Firewall (firewall only without Defense+), Which will work well with DefenseWall to create your own NETWORK rules.

Comodo Firewall should use about 7MB Ram on your system.

[firzen771]

pc tools FW and Comodo FW would probably be good choices, neither of them gave me to much slowdowns, although Comodo firewall was a TINY bit slower.

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "I didn't have any slowdown whatsoever with either product. I can't say whether either conflicts with Mamatu since I haven't yet had either firewall coupled with it." }-thanks

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "I think you don't need either one of them. Considering u have DefenseWall + Mamutu." }-for outbound?

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "You can also throw PC Tools FW in there if you're looking for a nice free fw that has negligible slowdown." }-good idea,like it:thumb: beta 5 maybe :thumb:

[jmonge]

does pctools have hips?beta 5?like D+ in comodo?

[jmonge]

i know that threatfire is kind of junk at the moment but does any one will recomend it with defensewall and does it have outbound protection at all?

[jmonge]

i know it may be offtopic but what about Ashampoo free firewall?

[gery]

i tried ashampoo e few days ago and it destroyed my computer.

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "i tried ashampoo e few days ago and it destroyed my computer." }-
ahhhhh??? :thumbd: how?woooo?scary??? the free or pro?

[jmonge]

i dont know if mamutu has outbound protection??? maybe it has not sure any advises?

[Fuzzfas]

I use Ashampoo Free right now. It's extremely light, far lighter than ZA if you do p2p. Almost 0 CPU time and 16MB RAM under heavy load.

The problem is, sometimes it conflicts with other security applications. I used to have a very hard conflict with past TF versions (system lock).

So, it's all about compatibility. If it's compatible with the rest of your setup, then it's a great simple,very light firewall to use behind router (it doesn't stealth ports).

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "I use Ashampoo Free right now. It's extremely light, far lighter than ZA if you do p2p. Almost 0 CPU time and 16MB RAM under heavy load.

The problem is, sometimes it conflicts with other security applications. I used to have a very hard conflict with past TF versions (system lock).

So, it's all about compatibility. If it's compatible with the rest of your setup, then it's a great simple,very light firewall to use behind router (it doesn't stealth ports)." }-i noticed that.it is fast and it works just fine with mamutu and defensewall,i just install it:thumb: let's see what happen,thanks

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "I use Ashampoo Free right now. It's extremely light, far lighter than ZA if you do p2p. Almost 0 CPU time and 16MB RAM under heavy load.

The problem is, sometimes it conflicts with other security applications. I used to have a very hard conflict with past TF versions (system lock).

So, it's all about compatibility. If it's compatible with the rest of your setup, then it's a great simple,very light firewall to use behind router (it doesn't stealth ports)." }-
i also noticed that it is not recognized as firewall by the security center,i have xp2 it is normal?

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "i also noticed that it is not recognized as firewall by the security center,i have xp2 it is normal?" }-

I have XP SP3, but i 've no idea, since the first thing i do when i install windows is to disable the security center. Total waste of CPU and Ram.

Since they didn't update much the firewall, i am not surprised that it's not recognised. Both pro and free versions have seen very little development in time. Probably they forgot to fix this "detail".

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "I have XP SP3, but i 've no idea, since the first thing i do when i install windows is to disable the security center. Total waste of CPU and Ram.

Since they didn't update much the firewall, i am not surprised that it's not recognised. Both pro and free versions have seen very little development in time. Probably they forgot to fix this "detail"." }-ok i see,this one is very stable:thumb: my pc is fast so far:thumb:

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "I have XP SP3, but i 've no idea, since the first thing i do when i install windows is to disable the security center. Total waste of CPU and Ram.

Since they didn't update much the firewall, i am not surprised that it's not recognised. Both pro and free versions have seen very little development in time. Probably they forgot to fix this "detail"." }-
i noticed you have twister also,does this one have hips fuction like D+?thanks

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "ok i see,this one is very stable:thumb: my pc is fast so far:thumb:" }-

When it doesn't conflict, it's stable alright! I have had Ashampoo running with p2p 24h a day and never crashed.

-{ Quote: "i noticed you have twister also,does this one have hips fuction like D+?thanks" }-

No, it has a behaviour blocker module. More like Mamutu or Threatfire, but i believe it to be less capable than these 2, since these are specialised, while in Twister it's just a module out of 3 (Av, behaviour blocker, registry protector).

SSM is more like D+.

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "When it doesn't conflict, it's stable alright! I have had Ashampoo running with p2p 24h a day and never crashed.



No, it has a behaviour blocker module. More like Mamutu or Threatfire, but i believe it to be less capable than these 2, since these are specialised, while in Twister it's just a module out of 3 (Av, behaviour blocker, registry protector).

SSM is more like D+." }-does twister(behaviour blocker) protect other applications againts termination or manipulation?thanks alot,i ask cause i will love to test it:thumb:especially the hips part

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "does pctools have hips?beta 5?like D+ in comodo?" }-

yes PC Tools FW does have a HIPS function, its called Enhanced Security Verification, although its not all that noisy and precise of D+ is i think.

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "When it doesn't conflict, it's stable alright! I have had Ashampoo running with p2p 24h a day and never crashed.



No, it has a behaviour blocker module. More like Mamutu or Threatfire, but i believe it to be less capable than these 2, since these are specialised, while in Twister it's just a module out of 3 (Av, behaviour blocker, registry protector).

SSM is more like D+." }-thanks,do you know any antivirus or firewall not hips that can protect other apps from been terminated?

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "thanks,do you know any antivirus or firewall not hips that can protect other apps from been terminated?" }-

Not that i am aware of. It's the job of the hips to do that...

-{ Quote: "does twister(behaviour blocker) protect other applications againts termination or manipulation?thanks alot,i ask cause i will love to test itespecially the hips part" }-

Protect from termination no. Protect from manipulation, well, it depends. If it's a malicious process trying to manipulate a legitimate process, Twister's behaviour blocker may see this and block the process. But there is no certainty. If you want certainty, only classical HIPS will do that.

Process guard free btw (not a firewall though) can be used to protect from termination and modification , as well as execution protection. Like a very simplified D+. By today's standards i would call it "lite version" of classical hips.

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "Not that i am aware of. It's the job of the hips to do that...



Protect from termination no. Protect from manipulation, well, it depends. If it's a malicious process trying to manipulate a legitimate process, Twister's behaviour blocker may see this and block the process. But there is no certainty. If you want certainty, only classical HIPS will do that.

Process guard free btw (not a firewall though) can be used to protect from termination and modification , as well as execution protection. Like a very simplified D+. By today's standards i would call it "lite version" of classical hips." }-cause mamutu has it,prevent manipulation of other apps

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "Not that i am aware of. It's the job of the hips to do that...



Protect from termination no. Protect from manipulation, well, it depends. If it's a malicious process trying to manipulate a legitimate process, Twister's behaviour blocker may see this and block the process. But there is no certainty. If you want certainty, only classical HIPS will do that.

Process guard free btw (not a firewall though) can be used to protect from termination and modification , as well as execution protection. Like a very simplified D+. By today's standards i would call it "lite version" of classical hips." }-i will like to try the twister,defensewall and ashampoo firewall combo:thumb:

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "i will like to try the twister,defensewall and ashampoo firewall combo:thumb:" }-

I 've run this combination for a while. They don't present any conflicts with each other.

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "I 've run this combination for a while. They don't present any conflicts with each other." }-that is cool8)

[jmonge]

is the Twister Antivirus free?

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "is the Twister Antivirus free?" }-

No, it has a 90 day free trial period. You need to use the serial key here:
http://www.filseclab.com/eng/download/downloads.htm

Normal price is 29.95 $ for lifetime license.
http://www.filseclab.com/eng/buycenter/buy.htm

Sad note: It has online activation. (You enter the serial and need internet connection to verify it).

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "No, it has a 90 day free trial period. You need to use the serial key here:
http://www.filseclab.com/eng/download/downloads.htm

Normal price is 29.95 $ for lifetime license.
http://www.filseclab.com/eng/buycenter/buy.htm

Sad note: It has online activation. (You enter the serial and need internet connection to verify it)." }-thanks 3 months is alot for a trial:thumb:

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "thanks 3 months is alot for a trial:thumb:" }-

In deed. Be aware that Twister is pretty aggressive and so it generates often false positives. But if you mail their support, they fix it very quickly. I used to have about 8 FP at a time, now i have none.

Twister used to flag Ashampoo Firewall's driver as rootkit too (ASWHide), but since i sent it to them recently, it seems fixed. Also if the file is small, it has a built-in FP submission feature, where you submit easily the sample to them as false positive.

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "In deed. Be aware that Twister is pretty aggressive and so it generates often false positives. But if you mail their support, they fix it very quickly. I used to have about 8 FP at a time, now i have none.

Twister used to flag Ashampoo Firewall's driver as rootkit too (ASWHide), but since i sent it to them recently, it seems fixed. Also if the file is small, it has a built in submission feature, where you submit easily the sample to them as false positive." }-thank you ver much,i will try it to see if i like it,thanks again.

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "thank you ver much,i will try it to see if i like it,thanks again." }-

The best thing about Twister, is that you won't even notice you have an AV. It's *that* light. (Add a "CPU Time" column on your task manager and you ll see. DW will be your main CPU eater with that setup. Way more than Twister). You will notice it however, when you defragment your hard disk. Twister is scanning the files that are defragmented and slows down the process. So when you defragment, temporarily disable realtime scanning. (Right click on tray icon).

There is also a possibility that FDD under mysterious circumstances can cause random BSOD. It has happened to me from time to time and sent Filseclab the minidump. But it depends on the system i guess, since no other Twister user has reported it here.

[gery]

-{ Quote: "ahhhhh??? :thumbd: how?woooo?scary??? the free or pro?" }-
the pro that was distributed for free for their clients i guess but i tell yiu it was a mess . Never will i try to put it in my computer even if they pay for

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "the pro that was distributed for free for their clients i guess but i tell yiu it was a mess . Never will i try to put it in my computer even if they pay for" }-woooooooooo what a bad experience man

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "the pro that was distributed for free for their clients i guess but i tell yiu it was a mess . Never will i try to put it in my computer even if they pay for" }-

As i have written before too, ironically, the PRO version of AShampoo firewall is buggier than the free. It also has a worse interface in the rules section.

But it's true, that when this firewall has conflicts with other security programs, they are usually big ones. When it clashed with TF v.3, i had to use the reset button, the PC was totally unresponsive.

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "As i have written before too, ironically, the PRO version of AShampoo firewall is buggier than the free. It also has a worse interface in the rules section.

But it's true, that when this firewall has conflicts with other security programs, they are usually big ones. When it clashed with TF v.3, i had to use the reset button, the PC was totally unresponsive." }-very scary but is running fine here???free version also

[Fuzzfas]

-{ Quote: "very scary but is running fine here???free version also" }-

Running fine with TF v.4 too... Go figure!

Ashampoo is a firewall of the extremes. Either runs perfectly or you need to uninstall it immediately. ;D
Fortunately, it runs fine with Twister, which is my only "stable" item in my security setup.

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "Running fine with TF v.4 too... Go figure!

Ashampoo is a firewall of the extremes. Either runs perfectly or you need to uninstall it immediately. ;D
Fortunately, it runs fine with Twister, which is my only "stable" item in my security setup." }-good:thumb: here too (the firewall)

[progress]

-{ Quote: "You can also throw PC Tools FW in there if you're looking for a nice free fw that has negligible slowdown." }-

When I was installing PC Tools FW I got this message: "PC Tools FW is not compatible with Windows XP" ...

Now I am using Zone Alarm without any problems ;)

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "When I was installing PC Tools FW I got this message: "PC Tools FW is not compatible with Windows XP" ...

Now I am using Zone Alarm without any problems ;)" }-does it run good with defensewall hips?do you know?

[firzen771]

-{ Quote: "When I was installing PC Tools FW I got this message: "PC Tools FW is not compatible with Windows XP" ...

Now I am using Zone Alarm without any problems ;)" }-

even using beta version of pc tools FW ive never experienced this problem.

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "even using beta version of pc tools FW ive never experienced this problem." }-me neither,does it run good with defensewall?

[firzen771]

well ive run basically all of the programs mentioned in this thread with defensewall at one time, none of them seemed to have any conflicts, but my personal favorite is PC Tools Firewall, beta 5 to be exact

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "well ive run basically all of the programs mentioned in this thread with defensewall at one time, none of them seemed to have any conflicts, but my personal favorite is PC Tools Firewall, beta 5 to be exact" }-
many thanks:thumb: i love it too:thumb:

[zen_usuario]

Well, another free FW for your pourpouses can be "RISING Firewall Free Edition".
Very, very nice application also, small footprint, no HIPS, downloads worms & other malware database updates (for scan memory before a new app try to connect out and for user demand), self made last updated installer, you can choose components you want when first installation, and after easily.....

I still have it installed on my PC (deactivated, of course), because I'm using CIS with Defense+ activated, and I've updated many times RISING FW without any type of problems with both (RISING FW & CIS) installed on my system.
The RISING FW can be started before user logging also.;)

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "Well, another free FW for your pourpouses can be "RISING Firewall Free Edition".
Very, very nice application also, small footprint, no HIPS, downloads worms & other malware database updates (for scan memory before a new app try to connect out and for user demand), self made last updated installer, you can choose components you want when first installation, and after easily.....

I still have it installed on my PC (deactivated, of course), because I'm using CIS with Defense+ activated, and I've updated many times RISING FW without any type of problems with both (RISING FW & CIS) installed on my system.
The RISING FW can be started before user logging also.;)" }-
many thanks:thumb:

[firzen771]

i tried rising firewall, its was very nice and light and didnt slow down internet traffic at all, but it also gave me a feeling like it wasnt actually working even, i dunno, i just didnt feel protected with it. this could be just me being insane though :P but other than those feelings of insecurity, it seemed like a decent firewall.

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "i tried rising firewall, its was very nice and light and didnt slow down internet traffic at all, but it also gave me a feeling like it wasnt actually working even, i dunno, i just didnt feel protected with it. this could be just me being insane though :P but other than those feelings of insecurity, it seemed like a decent firewall." }-
i just downloaded the ashampoo free firewall it was fast but i dont know it that much,some one recomended to me here like 2 hours ago but i didnt feel so secure and i went ahead and tried the new version of zone alarm it is way faster than version 7:thumb: let's see the results

[Someone]

-{ Quote: "for outbound?" }-
With Defencewall + Mamutu, almost no malware can get past it, so IMHO u don't really need outbound protection.

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "With Defencewall + Mamutu, almost no malware can get past it, so IMHO u don't really need outbound protection." }-you know what i was realizing that;D mamutu is very informative a good alerter and defensewall a good malware blocker in real time:thumb:

[luanme]

get Comodo's firewall

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "get Comodo's firewall" }-i love this one but it slow me down alitle,but i will consider using it again if i dont get anything for free

[Ed_H]

Have you tried Online Armor free?

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "Have you tried Online Armor free?" }-like 5 months ago but i got a delayed boot up pc problems,i dont know if they fix that or not

[jmonge]

so will mamutu replace my firewall?

[firzen771]

Mamutu wont do a what a firewall does, it will protect from malware, but not be a firewall replacement.

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "Mamutu wont do a what a firewall does, it will protect from malware, but not be a firewall replacement." }-thanks for clarification:thumb:

[zen_usuario]

For a good "outbound" protection, you need a software firewall too. Mamutu don't covers this because is centered on malware & bad behavior, you lack some control for outbound connections attempts.
Mamutu was tested by Matousek FW anti-leak test, but Mamutu itsn't a firewall!
They (Mamutu) were a lot disagree with testing it in a firewall comparission.
So the software vendor explain clear what's his security market position, not a firewall, yes an antimalware & bad behavior blocker with a community based support.

Have you tested RISING FW Free? I recommend to you for testing it, only, and you choose with some experience & feels with it.;)

[rOadToIS]

Comodo and ZA are both decent free firewalls. However, I would go for Comodo Firewall with Defense+(HIPS).

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "Comodo and ZA are both decent free firewalls. However, I would go for Comodo Firewall with Defense+(HIPS)." }-Thanks for advice:thumb:

[illicit]

I use OA paid with Defensewall and Mamutu. I have no issues whatsoever. I would imagine the Free is a similar experience. :thumb:

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "I use OA paid with Defensewall and Mamutu. I have no issues whatsoever. I would imagine the Free is a similar experience. :thumb:" }-cool,one question?if you have online armor do you really need mamutu?thanks again:thumb:

[illicit]

-{ Quote: "cool,one question?if you have online armor do you really need mamutu?thanks again:thumb:" }-

No, not really. I just really like Mamutu, and it has no effect on system performance.

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "No, not really. I just really like Mamutu, and it has no effect on system performance." }-ok i see,i am trialing mamutu at the moment and i can tell you it is very fast:thumb:plus running mamutu and defensewall i feeel very secure

[GES/POR]

-{ Quote: "I use OA paid with Defensewall and Mamutu. I have no issues whatsoever. I would imagine the Free is a similar experience. :thumb:" }-

WoW, thats one helluva setup you got there

[jmonge]

-{ Quote: "WoW, thats one helluva setup you got there" }-
cool,i have a similar one Zone Alarm free+defensewall+mamutu:thumb:

[jmonge]

is mamutu better than threatfire?or equal?any advises or is there another beh blocker in town?

[firzen771]

well, Mamutu seems to be quicker, more responsive and reliable from my use compared to threatfire. i used to use threatfire and it had a lot of annoying bugs/design flaws. Mamutu gives you more choices on what to do with detected behavior, and Mamutu has never deleted something thats needed for the system to run, which threatfire has before. after all its problems, i just dont trust threatfire anymore and prefer Mamutu, but if your looking into other BB, check drivesentry, not as light as Mamutu but still very good program, im currently using it with no problems yet.