Avira+Vista64= tears

[joffy]

My KIS 2009 is up for renewal soon so I thought I'd try a new security setup.
Browsing these wonderful forums I decided to try Look n Stop for the firewall.

Installed the trial, worked fine. Next I installed Avira Prem trial... rebooted, lost internet connection! Rebooted/reset router, cleared DNS, no joy and a network diagnosis/repair showed no problems.

Uninstalled Avira, still no net connection ???
So had to do a system restore to get back online.

I uninstalled KIS 2009 beforehand, rebooted, ran ccleaner, so what's causing the problem?

[doktornotor]

Very much doubt that it's Avira. Either left-over KIS drivers, or the LnS firewall. Either way, see this post (http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1349891&postcount=21) on troubleshooting stale driver entries.

[joffy]

Thanks. I did notice that Windows security centre was saying KIS was still providing malware protection etc. ???

[Kerodo]

My guess would be it has something to do with your previous KAV/KIS install. I have run Avira here on Vista x64 without any issues at all, so I know it works well with x64. I have also seen something like your problem mentioned in relation to an uninstalled KIS setup by someone else before too.. Sorry though, I don't know what the cure is...

[joffy]

Just tried again. KIS seemed to uninstall ok, tried Avira with no software firewall running and still it killed my connection.

In both Firefox and IE7 I just get a blank white browser window with "Done" status bottom left as if the page loaded ok.

??? ??? ??? ???

[firzen771]

ive had some pretty terrible experiences with uninstalling kaspersky products, maybe its just for me, but to me its becoming like how norton used to be, leaving **** everywer after uninstall and causing havoc on my system.

[joffy]

I'm going to give it one more go, if still a problem it's format drive time! 8)

[firzen771]

tbh with my past experiences with kaspersky, ull probly want to format even if it does work...

[entropism]

Avira/Comodo on x64 vista, no problems at all. And yes, when I uninstalled KIS '07, I reformatted just to make sure. KIS might protect well, but IMHO it's more intrusive/invasive/unfriendly than Norton's used to be.

[joffy]

Now have a nice clean Vista install and Avira now works! Thanks for the tips.
Gonna try Outpost Pro with it now and hope it plays nice. ;)

UPDATE: Outpost seems to make my system lag. Vista64, 4gb ram.